What you descibe was the way kernels were being handled in the early 2000's. The 2.5.X kernels were getting all the dev time, and the distros were back porting fixes. You are right though, if the Linus branch starts slipping, a distro or some other maintainer branch will become the "base" branch. The way it is right now there are several branches I could follow/use if i wanted to.
[N] sys-freebsd/freebsd-sources (--): FreeBSD kernel sources
[N] sys-kernel/cell-sources (--): Full sources including the cell/ps3 patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree
[N] sys-kernel/ck-sources ((~)2.6.34-r1(2.6.34-r1)): Con Kolivas' high performance patchset + Gentoo patchset sources
[N] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources (2.6.32-r11(2.6.32-r11)): Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree
[N] sys-kernel/git-sources ((~)2.6.35_rc6(2.6.35_rc6)): The very latest -git version of the Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/hardened-sources ((~)2.6.34(2.6.34)): Hardened kernel sources (kernel series 2.6)
[N] sys-kernel/mips-sources (--): Linux-Mips GIT sources for MIPS-based machines, dated 20100605
[N] sys-kernel/mm-sources ((~)2.6.28_rc2-r1(2.6.28_rc2-r1)): Andrew Morton's kernel, mostly fixes for 2.6 vanilla, some vm stuff too
[N] sys-kernel/openvz-sources (2.6.27.6.1(2.6.27-kuindzhi.1)): Kernel sources with OpenVZ patchset
[N] sys-kernel/sparc-sources (--): Full sources for the Gentoo Sparc Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources ((~)2.6.34-r1(2.6.34-r1)): TuxOnIce + Gentoo patchset sources
[N] sys-kernel/usermode-sources ((~)2.6.18-r2(2.6.18-r2)): Full sources for the User Mode Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ((~)2.6.35_rc5(2.6.35_rc5)): Full sources for the Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/vserver-sources ((~)2.3.0.36.30.4-r1(2.3.0.36.30.4-r1)): Full sources including Gentoo and Linux-VServer patchsets for the 2.6 kernel tree.
[N] sys-kernel/xbox-sources (--): Full sources for the Xbox Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/xen-sources ((~)2.6.34(2.6.34)): Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to run under Xen
[N] sys-kernel/zen-sources ((~)2.6.34_p1-r1(2.6.34_p1-r1)): The Zen Kernel Live Sources
Those are my 17 options in gentoo's main tree, I'm sure i can find others in some overlays. Thats not counting things like following one of the dev branches of kernel. In fact just about anyone can have a branch these days, `git branch myawesomebranch`.
i wonder if there is a place that will let me pay them to teach me how to change my wheel bearing while doing the change for me. They would also have to explain potential problems with wheel bearings that may not have actually happened with mine. Also even getting things like, how far apart mount point A and mount point B should be is nigh imposable.
does letting an outside user load the page constitute "distributing" it? I mean they never really get a copy of the code, but simply the out put of it. How about selling sites that use the code, where the end user doesn't have shell access, but simply a way to login and post entries? It's not quite black and white....
that is covered nicely by various stalking laws, problem solved. Also a MAC is not unique, the first half is the vendor ID, and the second half is just "unlikely to collide" also MACs can be spoofed, see nmap, or "ifconfig hw ether 52:54:0f:1a:3c:59 eth0". The other issue is figuring out who owns that device. granted if your SSID is "Jones Family WiFi" it gets a bit easier.
"the unwarranted collection of e-mails, passwords and other personal data of those who failed to protect their networks with passwords."
Sure, the data wasn't protected in any way, and it was broadcast in public - but why store it, if all you want is the MAC Address and the SSID. And why would you then claim that all you stored is exactly that and nothing more until it comes out that wasn't the case?
because the proceessing of the data(SSID/macaddr is in each packet, and gps location and time) is done offline? or it's kept in case the "beta" software may crash if it encounters a packet type that it wasn't expecting, or.... provide me a good theroy of something they could have gotten, and what they could do with it. gmail uses SSL, VPNing to work will protect your work e-mail as will the use of encryption in outlook, setup by the IT guy[s] at work.
actually google gets to see a large amount of my traffic, i've all but stopped bookmarking stuff, i simply google "hackaday jet powered VW" without the quotes and let google find it for me.
the setup disk that shipped with my last 3 routers(over the last 5 years), all recommended strongly that the encryption be turned on. If you can't be bother to read the directions to you complex device, too bad for you. Thats like claiming after driving your new car through the dealer window that "you didn't know the car was in gear"
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=define:+broadcast see #2, "Sow over a wide area" you have a omni directional signal that you let run a muck anywhere it wanted, and they are grumpy someone else saw it... same as running naked down the street yelling at everyone to look away.
because ATT can't charge 1298361294861928361298/month for dialup, if there are other providers. same goes for things like cable. The problme is that CITY1 has said, sure comcast, if you wire the city we'll let you be the only one that provides cable service. so they provide a 200KB/sec down, 15KB/sec up, connection for $50 a month, and call it broadband. Now if they had to compete, it would likely go up to 12Mbps/12Mbps for $30/month. See how much of the margin would go away?
i don't think anyone is arguing for making the government the ISP, but simply the owner of the cables/wires/fiber/poles/etc and then they lease access to anyone that asks at the same rates(with discounts for large purchases, as long as it's the same discount for all) to anyone that wants to be a ISP, and has filled out "Form-1891" and sent in. The issue isn't the ISP end, but who owns and maintains the infrastructure.
but, apple releases update to OSX that breaks photoshop, and they have fixed the bug in xcode(the approved way of software on OSX), then shouldn't adobe just update their xcode/OSX, press the "re package, patch" button, and ship the update? why should MS be concerned about 3rd party apps? does MS software still work, or receive patches? good problem solved.
Or for the glass half empty types: Google and Mozilla aren't willing to pay more than $3134 to eliminate a remotely exploitable vulnerability that could be potentially disastrous for their users!
should read: "... aren't willing or able to pay more than $3134... "
post an ad on craigslist that you are paying $20/hour of recording to have it typed out. Pizza provided as well. ByoB. bet some college kid takes you up on it.
can they ask for keeping logs on a customer, without notifying that customer? if i got a notice that tomorrow they would start logging, for the next 7 days, I bet my traffic(if it normally had something in it like some copyright infringement) would be clean.
I would say that in order for them to wiretap you, they need to notify you, but i guess notifing your ISP that they want 7 days of logs starting next monday, is fine as long as the user can at the end of it, be notified that that is what had happened.
could you show me how many cases of rape have be halted mid offence by US law enforcement this year versus the total number reported and the "guess" at the total number committed...
Apart from having law enforcement on hand at a rally/protest/event they very rarely actully stop something major mid act(DUI/speeding excluded). When was the last home invasion stopped mid event by law enforcement(and did it prevent theft/dmg to property?)?
yep, and it's what the "TIVO" clause in the GPL3 is for. I bought the hardware, I can do as i like with it, including blend it, make it into a rocket(not for sooting at something, but like a model rocket), use it to prop the window open, etc. The reason that TI doesn't like it, is they sell the same hardware with additional software features for a premium this way, and people buying a lowend calculator and flashing advanced firmware on it hurts their profit part.
lack of a *.lnk based root kit, the ability to audit the source, the lack of ability to run 99% of the viruses in the wild.[1]
Can you run any version of windows from something like a ramdisk, so there is no real way to write to the disk? how about the old, start the system up, shut it down, but leave iptables running router hack? A highly transparent bug/flaw reporting system, with a quick turn around?
If you hear of a mac mini pro, let me know.:)
[1]yes yes, all strawmen, but the issue for me is the last version of windows I used was XP. So I'm out of date.
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What you descibe was the way kernels were being handled in the early 2000's. The 2.5.X kernels were getting all the dev time, and the distros were back porting fixes. You are right though, if the Linus branch starts slipping, a distro or some other maintainer branch will become the "base" branch. The way it is right now there are several branches I could follow/use if i wanted to.
[N] sys-freebsd/freebsd-sources (--): FreeBSD kernel sources
[N] sys-kernel/cell-sources (--): Full sources including the cell/ps3 patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree
[N] sys-kernel/ck-sources ((~)2.6.34-r1(2.6.34-r1)): Con Kolivas' high performance patchset + Gentoo patchset sources
[N] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources (2.6.32-r11(2.6.32-r11)): Full sources including the Gentoo patchset for the 2.6 kernel tree
[N] sys-kernel/git-sources ((~)2.6.35_rc6(2.6.35_rc6)): The very latest -git version of the Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/hardened-sources ((~)2.6.34(2.6.34)): Hardened kernel sources (kernel series 2.6)
[N] sys-kernel/mips-sources (--): Linux-Mips GIT sources for MIPS-based machines, dated 20100605
[N] sys-kernel/mm-sources ((~)2.6.28_rc2-r1(2.6.28_rc2-r1)): Andrew Morton's kernel, mostly fixes for 2.6 vanilla, some vm stuff too
[N] sys-kernel/openvz-sources (2.6.27.6.1(2.6.27-kuindzhi.1)): Kernel sources with OpenVZ patchset
[N] sys-kernel/sparc-sources (--): Full sources for the Gentoo Sparc Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/tuxonice-sources ((~)2.6.34-r1(2.6.34-r1)): TuxOnIce + Gentoo patchset sources
[N] sys-kernel/usermode-sources ((~)2.6.18-r2(2.6.18-r2)): Full sources for the User Mode Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources ((~)2.6.35_rc5(2.6.35_rc5)): Full sources for the Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/vserver-sources ((~)2.3.0.36.30.4-r1(2.3.0.36.30.4-r1)): Full sources including Gentoo and Linux-VServer patchsets for the 2.6 kernel tree.
[N] sys-kernel/xbox-sources (--): Full sources for the Xbox Linux kernel
[N] sys-kernel/xen-sources ((~)2.6.34(2.6.34)): Full sources for a dom0/domU Linux kernel to run under Xen
[N] sys-kernel/zen-sources ((~)2.6.34_p1-r1(2.6.34_p1-r1)): The Zen Kernel Live Sources
Those are my 17 options in gentoo's main tree, I'm sure i can find others in some overlays. Thats not counting things like following one of the dev branches of kernel. In fact just about anyone can have a branch these days, `git branch myawesomebranch`.
i wonder if there is a place that will let me pay them to teach me how to change my wheel bearing while doing the change for me. They would also have to explain potential problems with wheel bearings that may not have actually happened with mine. Also even getting things like, how far apart mount point A and mount point B should be is nigh imposable.
does letting an outside user load the page constitute "distributing" it? I mean they never really get a copy of the code, but simply the out put of it. How about selling sites that use the code, where the end user doesn't have shell access, but simply a way to login and post entries? It's not quite black and white....
that is covered nicely by various stalking laws, problem solved. Also a MAC is not unique, the first half is the vendor ID, and the second half is just "unlikely to collide" also MACs can be spoofed, see nmap, or "ifconfig hw ether 52:54:0f:1a:3c:59 eth0". The other issue is figuring out who owns that device. granted if your SSID is "Jones Family WiFi" it gets a bit easier.
"the unwarranted collection of e-mails, passwords and other personal data of those who failed to protect their networks with passwords."
Sure, the data wasn't protected in any way, and it was broadcast in public - but why store it, if all you want is the MAC Address and the SSID. And why would you then claim that all you stored is exactly that and nothing more until it comes out that wasn't the case?
because the proceessing of the data(SSID/macaddr is in each packet, and gps location and time) is done offline? or it's kept in case the "beta" software may crash if it encounters a packet type that it wasn't expecting, or.... provide me a good theroy of something they could have gotten, and what they could do with it. gmail uses SSL, VPNing to work will protect your work e-mail as will the use of encryption in outlook, setup by the IT guy[s] at work.
agreed, as long as you don't run void9 to disconnect my device to get handshakes, I don't care much.
actually google gets to see a large amount of my traffic, i've all but stopped bookmarking stuff, i simply google "hackaday jet powered VW" without the quotes and let google find it for me.
the setup disk that shipped with my last 3 routers(over the last 5 years), all recommended strongly that the encryption be turned on. If you can't be bother to read the directions to you complex device, too bad for you. Thats like claiming after driving your new car through the dealer window that "you didn't know the car was in gear"
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&q=define:+broadcast
see #2, "Sow over a wide area" you have a omni directional signal that you let run a muck anywhere it wanted, and they are grumpy someone else saw it... same as running naked down the street yelling at everyone to look away.
but corps are people now, did you miss that?
because ATT can't charge 1298361294861928361298/month for dialup, if there are other providers. same goes for things like cable. The problme is that CITY1 has said, sure comcast, if you wire the city we'll let you be the only one that provides cable service. so they provide a 200KB/sec down, 15KB/sec up, connection for $50 a month, and call it broadband. Now if they had to compete, it would likely go up to 12Mbps/12Mbps for $30/month. See how much of the margin would go away?
i don't think anyone is arguing for making the government the ISP, but simply the owner of the cables/wires/fiber/poles/etc and then they lease access to anyone that asks at the same rates(with discounts for large purchases, as long as it's the same discount for all) to anyone that wants to be a ISP, and has filled out "Form-1891" and sent in. The issue isn't the ISP end, but who owns and maintains the infrastructure.
US interstae highway system, Municipal water and sewer, the ham radio space.
some android based phones(droidX) will only load signed roms. So you need to root the rom and use adb to delete apps.
but, apple releases update to OSX that breaks photoshop, and they have fixed the bug in xcode(the approved way of software on OSX), then shouldn't adobe just update their xcode/OSX, press the "re package, patch" button, and ship the update? why should MS be concerned about 3rd party apps? does MS software still work, or receive patches? good problem solved.
Or for the glass half empty types: Google and Mozilla aren't willing to pay more than $3134 to eliminate a remotely exploitable vulnerability that could be potentially disastrous for their users!
should read: "... aren't willing or able to pay more than $3134 ... "
post an ad on craigslist that you are paying $20/hour of recording to have it typed out. Pizza provided as well. ByoB. bet some college kid takes you up on it.
good, then they can get their warrant, and do that then.
can they ask for keeping logs on a customer, without notifying that customer? if i got a notice that tomorrow they would start logging, for the next 7 days, I bet my traffic(if it normally had something in it like some copyright infringement) would be clean.
I would say that in order for them to wiretap you, they need to notify you, but i guess notifing your ISP that they want 7 days of logs starting next monday, is fine as long as the user can at the end of it, be notified that that is what had happened.
could you show me how many cases of rape have be halted mid offence by US law enforcement this year versus the total number reported and the "guess" at the total number committed...
Apart from having law enforcement on hand at a rally/protest/event they very rarely actully stop something major mid act(DUI/speeding excluded). When was the last home invasion stopped mid event by law enforcement(and did it prevent theft/dmg to property?)?
because some of us run more than one thing at a time....
how about a train + bus? or train + taxi?
The cost differance between a T1 and a 1Mbps line, is that the T1 comes with a SLA and the 1Mbps consumer grade line does not.
yep, and it's what the "TIVO" clause in the GPL3 is for. I bought the hardware, I can do as i like with it, including blend it, make it into a rocket(not for sooting at something, but like a model rocket), use it to prop the window open, etc. The reason that TI doesn't like it, is they sell the same hardware with additional software features for a premium this way, and people buying a lowend calculator and flashing advanced firmware on it hurts their profit part.
lack of a *.lnk based root kit, the ability to audit the source, the lack of ability to run 99% of the viruses in the wild.[1]
Can you run any version of windows from something like a ramdisk, so there is no real way to write to the disk? how about the old, start the system up, shut it down, but leave iptables running router hack? A highly transparent bug/flaw reporting system, with a quick turn around?
If you hear of a mac mini pro, let me know. :)
[1]yes yes, all strawmen, but the issue for me is the last version of windows I used was XP. So I'm out of date.