Get some exercise. I know, it sounds crazy, but exercise can really help to relieve some anxiety.
No, it doesn't sound crazy. Here is an article on the subject from Time Magazine. Also look for the study done at Duke University in 1999 where they compared exercise to Zoloft.
If he's not interested let him play outside with other kids like he's supposed to. Or at worst let him read comic books. If he's interested in books now then fine, but it doesn't sound like it. Give him a couple of years to develop more. In the meantime interacting with other kids is far better in this internet rich interaction depleted world we live in. Encourage reading sure, but don't push it.
I lived a while in Manitoba. When it gets anything below say 28 or 29 below, celcius, there is often a haze in the sky formed by tiny ice crystals in the air. It causes an effect known as "Sun Dogs." When you see sun dogs, you know it is at least as cold as I mentioned.
Another troll. But I'll bite. Look... it is time politically correct idiots are called bullshit. Always trying to be polite and seem fair is ridiculous. There was a panel on TV a few weeks ago where a right wing pundit was making claims that Rush Limbaugh was never given the opportunity to make his points clear. And all the politically correct idiots at the table nodded politely like this was a fair point, not willing to lose it like they should and tell the guy he was a fucking idiot himself and that Limbaugh's big mouth means he has always been able to make the points he wanted to.
And my point? The politically correct are always willing to bend over backward so that they can say how fair and open minded they are. But the fact is, if something is stupid its stupid. Call it that. If it's bullshit it's bullshit call it that. If someone fucks up, they own that fuck up. It isn't their parent's fault because they were mean. It isn't their genes because it predisposes them to be an addict. It isn't the guy down the street because he didn't thank them for opening a door for them. What you do, you own. And I have had it up to... here... with lame assed motherfuckers who want to make excuses for everyone, and for trying to find ways to make sure people don't ever have to own up to their own mistakes. You ever wonder why America is so litigious happy? It is because of fucktards who encourage the population to not own their own actions. And I have had it with these idiots. At least I'm willing to call them bullshit. If you don't like it, that's your problem. But I have no problem calling them out.
Maybe you are as intelligent as a monkey... it sounds like it... but I am more intelligent than one. That is why I can CHOOSE not to be an alcoholic. That is why people can recognize their genetic predisposition and CHOOSE not to be alcoholics. Unless they are intelligent as a monkey.
Just because you have a predisposition doesn't mean you have to live up to it. Stop making fucking excuses for alcoholics and junkies. You know 4 years ago I ruptured a disk and pinched nerves in my back. I was taking up to 4 or 5 prescribed 80mg Oxycontins a day. But even while on it I tried to limit myself to only when needed and occasionally would forget if I took one at the proper time (that is what it does to you)... when I started to get withdrawal symptoms like spiking a fever, the runs, upset stomach... I would realize I didn't take the pill on time, take one, and the symptoms would disappear in 20 minutes. After I had surgery to correct this, it took 4 months to get off of the painkillers. I CHOSE to get off the painkillers. But after nearly a year on Oxycontin make no mistake I was... WAS... physically addicted quite strongly. After the surgery and a few years on, my back still hurts but nowhere near as much. It is as good as it will get at about 70% recovered. I take ibuprofen, aspirin or acetaminophen. Once every couple of months I may need to take a Percocet. But that is it. One. If anyone has your kind of excuse to be an alcoholic junkie it is me. But I am not one. I don't cut any slack for anyone who is one. It is a choice pure and simple. Stop making fucking excuses for people because they choose to be addicted.
If you choose to act as stupid as a monkey, it is your choice. But it is a choice, not an excuse.
I had a very bad parent because of a genetic propensity to severe alcoholism. I am not an alcoholic. I drink but not often. My brother was an alcoholic but stopped drinking because he knew he couldn't do it responsibly so that it was all or nothing. He chose nothing. Some of my father's siblings drank too much but stopped. My grandfather was a raging drunk with a mean disposition. And so on down the line.
Stop making fucking excuses for people. People are not addicted to anything because of genetic predisposition or parenting. They get addicted because of their fucking actions. Fuck I hate... HATE this politically correct BULLSHIT. The drunk always had a choice so shut the fuck up unless you have something useful to say on the subject.
People are responsible for their actions unless they are mentally retarded, and even then many are still bright enough to be responsible. It's why many can live on their own and have jobs etc. The only people who aren't responsible for their own actions are people too mentally deficient to be or those with mental disabilities who need to live on a psyc ward. Now go find a commune and sing fucking Kumbaya with your friends and leave actual thinking to others.
If they're wanting to get their porn at the same time as talk about their business, then it might be a good idea. Valid point though. Mine. No yours I mean.;) Too bad experience has had to make the process so onerous.
Aside from that, it isn't really a good idea in this case. The OP mentioned that the users are somewhat technically challenged. Most people are unaware of usenet. Most wouldn't know how to go about connecting to an account. Yes it is no more difficult than setting up an email account but most people can't set up an email client if it isn't automated for them. As well, most home and/or business internet accounts these days have stopped including usenet access. So the OP's users would have to spend more money to subscribe to a usenet service when there are free alternatives. As much as I like to hear about someone wanting to add to what I consider the legitimate side of usenet, this is a case where it isn't a good solution.
I still consider usenet to be the home of the true programming geek.:D. But even this is slowly dying. The funny thing is that over the years, it is the one forum that hasn't really ever disappeared. Unlike so many of the popular internet forums of the day which come and go over the years (usually as the site owners try to commercialize them). You'd think that usenet would be a favoured forum if only because of its stability. But then again, the lack of access from home and business internet accounts is partly to blame. The perception that I joked about that it is only a place for porn or pirated films and music is another. Ah well.
About 25 or 30 years ago in Toronto they had a "town forum" on one of the local super stations. The subject was about legalizing pot. Some stoner had the floor and when he got to the mic his speech went something like: "Ya heh heh heh.... Like I smoke pot you know... And like....... uhhh......... heh heh... I fogot what I was gonna say......" then he turned around and sat down. The station this was on broadcast to all of southern Ontario, and transmitters close to the border meant a good chunk of the U.S. across Lakes Ontario and Erie. Potential audience of many millions (actual audience probably a few million since it was during the news hour... pre-internet days). A better spokesman for making weed illegal could not have been found. The panel were speechless for a minute.
This is exactly it. If they gave us the best that they have already, then they wouldn't be able to "improve" all these other parameters to keep inflating the price point.
When someone is trying to get into the system by brute force, are they not just throwing a ton of passwords (even via rainbow tables) at the established authentication system?
It seems to me that the client would have to know the salt ahead of time (i.e. some time well before they even try to log in) to create a secure salted password to send to the login service. And wouldn't this then be kind like a pseudo public key encryption? If the client doesn't have the salt then they are just sending a plain password which gets salted/concatenated once it reaches the server (you would need to do this from what you say so that you can compare the provided password to what is stored in the DB). So then the hacker only needs to brute force it.
And if you provide them the salt during the login process (i.e. not ahead of time) they still only need to figure out or throw a bunch the plain passwords at the server... brute force it.
And if they aren't trying to brute force things through the established app API, then presumably they are attacking say the database directly. And then they can get your data directly.
Do you know any good documents online that explain how this works? Salting that is. I'm still not sure how it really helps. It sounds good in theory. But I guess until I find something that explains it well, I still don't see how to implement it effectively. I have looked, but other than a bunch of posts telling people to concatenate a salt with the password, there isn't much out there as far as I can tell.
If they created monitors that had a resolution high enough that the eye couldn't register any further improvement, then the manufacturers wouldn't have anywhere else to go from there. Once you're at the top, you're at the top. And then the prices would start to come down as the market became saturated. But now they can make up some bullshit marketing ploy that really doesn't do much in terms of improved resolution, and jack the price up whenever a "generation" of displays starts losing market value.
I'm curious, what methods do people generally use for coming up with a salt?
Also, since you obviously need to be able to retrieve the salt in order to validate a login, where do you store it? In a database along with the hashed concatenated salt+password? (RDBMS, LDAP, doesn't matter in this case, a database is a database is a database... a place to store data)? That is you have the unencrypted salt (so you can retrieve it again) possibly in the same table as the hashed value? Since you can't decrypt a hash I assume you take the password entered by the user, concatenate it with the salt you retrieve from the database and then hash it, and then either store the mangled concatenated pair when storing a new password, or compare the mangled up salt+password to what is stored in the database if someone is trying to log in. Or do you pick some aspect of the account that isn't likely to change and use it as a salt so you don't have to store it, and then hope the hacker doesn't figure out your scheme (or a disgruntled co-worker doesn't spill the algorithmic beans to the world).
I guess if the attacker hasn't been able to get into your database they have to figure out the salt etc. But if they manage to hack your system and get into the database the whole thing is moot.
Because they're a COUPLE OF KNUCKLEHEADS! I'll miss 'em. I'm not sure which I like more, Wait Wait or Car Talk, but one follows the other, so who cares? Well I do, about them both. Ah, this does suck, but they gotta take some time to relax. Hey... wait a minute....
If the OP actually owns the code and he/she gives the client a copy of the source code, then they also need to have the client sign a Non Disclosure Agreement or the OP could end up in a worse situation. It should state the client can't disclose or sell the code and use it only for internal purposes, etc. etc. etc. Imagine a system where all the code you spent time and money to develop is given away and anyone who wants it can use it. You'd be out of business. And you wouldn't be able to pay off the bills you incurred while not making money while writing the initial code. But very, very often the code ends up being owned by the people who commissioned it to be written. This would then invalidate your point entirely.
So are you saying that with light table you don't have to type code into an editor or compile the code? Great, we can hire programmers from the same demographic that McDonalds cooks come from now. Oh wait, you're saying we'll still have to write code? But not in an editor? Oh, we'll still have to use an editor? OK. But we won't need to compile the code? Oh, we'll still have to compile the code too. So what the fuck are you on about then?
This looks interesting, and it will be even more interesting to see how it might be applied to say enterprise java apps (or any enterprise scale application whether in C, Java, whatever) as opposed to web based scripting languages. I'm all for something that provides more real estate for working with code etc. but it still boils down to an editor and a compiler (unless you are using only scripting languages). I'm in the wait and see mode on this one.
Generally (at least in the U.S. and probably Canada), the venue is responsible for paying royalties for music played in the establishment. It is usually a monthly or yearly flat rate based on how many patrons you can accommodate. It covers live and recorded music that is copyrighted by someone else. So a live band, a DJ, a juke box, whatever. Most places are supposed to have a small sign up to show they paid the dues. If the band records the performance and it includes cover songs, then they have to pay royalties based on how many copies they sell. So the bottom line is that unless they are recording and selling the recording, the performers don't have to worry about fees. And if the songs are originals, they don't have to worry about fees when recording either. Unless they like suing themselves.
I agree, but what makes me ponder is that the European court said to allow copyright on an API would allow monopolizing ideas. Isn't that what allowing business rules patents does? Ie patent ideas? Hopefully, somehow, Alsup's logic pervades into the business rule / software patent realm and blots out this travesty of justice too.
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No, it doesn't sound crazy. Here is an article on the subject from Time Magazine. Also look for the study done at Duke University in 1999 where they compared exercise to Zoloft.
If he's not interested let him play outside with other kids like he's supposed to. Or at worst let him read comic books. If he's interested in books now then fine, but it doesn't sound like it. Give him a couple of years to develop more. In the meantime interacting with other kids is far better in this internet rich interaction depleted world we live in. Encourage reading sure, but don't push it.
Dammit! Then we'll just have to make them controversial so that God can be on our side!
I lived a while in Manitoba. When it gets anything below say 28 or 29 below, celcius, there is often a haze in the sky formed by tiny ice crystals in the air. It causes an effect known as "Sun Dogs." When you see sun dogs, you know it is at least as cold as I mentioned.
Another troll. But I'll bite. Look... it is time politically correct idiots are called bullshit. Always trying to be polite and seem fair is ridiculous. There was a panel on TV a few weeks ago where a right wing pundit was making claims that Rush Limbaugh was never given the opportunity to make his points clear. And all the politically correct idiots at the table nodded politely like this was a fair point, not willing to lose it like they should and tell the guy he was a fucking idiot himself and that Limbaugh's big mouth means he has always been able to make the points he wanted to.
And my point? The politically correct are always willing to bend over backward so that they can say how fair and open minded they are. But the fact is, if something is stupid its stupid. Call it that. If it's bullshit it's bullshit call it that. If someone fucks up, they own that fuck up. It isn't their parent's fault because they were mean. It isn't their genes because it predisposes them to be an addict. It isn't the guy down the street because he didn't thank them for opening a door for them. What you do, you own. And I have had it up to ... here... with lame assed motherfuckers who want to make excuses for everyone, and for trying to find ways to make sure people don't ever have to own up to their own mistakes. You ever wonder why America is so litigious happy? It is because of fucktards who encourage the population to not own their own actions. And I have had it with these idiots. At least I'm willing to call them bullshit. If you don't like it, that's your problem. But I have no problem calling them out.
Maybe you are as intelligent as a monkey... it sounds like it... but I am more intelligent than one. That is why I can CHOOSE not to be an alcoholic. That is why people can recognize their genetic predisposition and CHOOSE not to be alcoholics. Unless they are intelligent as a monkey.
Just because you have a predisposition doesn't mean you have to live up to it. Stop making fucking excuses for alcoholics and junkies. You know 4 years ago I ruptured a disk and pinched nerves in my back. I was taking up to 4 or 5 prescribed 80mg Oxycontins a day. But even while on it I tried to limit myself to only when needed and occasionally would forget if I took one at the proper time (that is what it does to you)... when I started to get withdrawal symptoms like spiking a fever, the runs, upset stomach... I would realize I didn't take the pill on time, take one, and the symptoms would disappear in 20 minutes. After I had surgery to correct this, it took 4 months to get off of the painkillers. I CHOSE to get off the painkillers. But after nearly a year on Oxycontin make no mistake I was... WAS... physically addicted quite strongly. After the surgery and a few years on, my back still hurts but nowhere near as much. It is as good as it will get at about 70% recovered. I take ibuprofen, aspirin or acetaminophen. Once every couple of months I may need to take a Percocet. But that is it. One. If anyone has your kind of excuse to be an alcoholic junkie it is me. But I am not one. I don't cut any slack for anyone who is one. It is a choice pure and simple. Stop making fucking excuses for people because they choose to be addicted.
If you choose to act as stupid as a monkey, it is your choice. But it is a choice, not an excuse.
I had a very bad parent because of a genetic propensity to severe alcoholism. I am not an alcoholic. I drink but not often. My brother was an alcoholic but stopped drinking because he knew he couldn't do it responsibly so that it was all or nothing. He chose nothing. Some of my father's siblings drank too much but stopped. My grandfather was a raging drunk with a mean disposition. And so on down the line.
Stop making fucking excuses for people. People are not addicted to anything because of genetic predisposition or parenting. They get addicted because of their fucking actions. Fuck I hate... HATE this politically correct BULLSHIT. The drunk always had a choice so shut the fuck up unless you have something useful to say on the subject.
People are responsible for their actions unless they are mentally retarded, and even then many are still bright enough to be responsible. It's why many can live on their own and have jobs etc. The only people who aren't responsible for their own actions are people too mentally deficient to be or those with mental disabilities who need to live on a psyc ward. Now go find a commune and sing fucking Kumbaya with your friends and leave actual thinking to others.
The main problem with air for cooling computer equipment is its specific heat.
If they're wanting to get their porn at the same time as talk about their business, then it might be a good idea. Valid point though. Mine. No yours I mean. ;) Too bad experience has had to make the process so onerous.
Aside from that, it isn't really a good idea in this case. The OP mentioned that the users are somewhat technically challenged. Most people are unaware of usenet. Most wouldn't know how to go about connecting to an account. Yes it is no more difficult than setting up an email account but most people can't set up an email client if it isn't automated for them. As well, most home and/or business internet accounts these days have stopped including usenet access. So the OP's users would have to spend more money to subscribe to a usenet service when there are free alternatives. As much as I like to hear about someone wanting to add to what I consider the legitimate side of usenet, this is a case where it isn't a good solution.
I still consider usenet to be the home of the true programming geek. :D. But even this is slowly dying. The funny thing is that over the years, it is the one forum that hasn't really ever disappeared. Unlike so many of the popular internet forums of the day which come and go over the years (usually as the site owners try to commercialize them). You'd think that usenet would be a favoured forum if only because of its stability. But then again, the lack of access from home and business internet accounts is partly to blame. The perception that I joked about that it is only a place for porn or pirated films and music is another. Ah well.
About 25 or 30 years ago in Toronto they had a "town forum" on one of the local super stations. The subject was about legalizing pot. Some stoner had the floor and when he got to the mic his speech went something like: "Ya heh heh heh.... Like I smoke pot you know... And like.... ... uhhh ... ... ... heh heh ... I fogot what I was gonna say... ..." then he turned around and sat down. The station this was on broadcast to all of southern Ontario, and transmitters close to the border meant a good chunk of the U.S. across Lakes Ontario and Erie. Potential audience of many millions (actual audience probably a few million since it was during the news hour... pre-internet days). A better spokesman for making weed illegal could not have been found. The panel were speechless for a minute.
This is exactly it. If they gave us the best that they have already, then they wouldn't be able to "improve" all these other parameters to keep inflating the price point.
When someone is trying to get into the system by brute force, are they not just throwing a ton of passwords (even via rainbow tables) at the established authentication system?
It seems to me that the client would have to know the salt ahead of time (i.e. some time well before they even try to log in) to create a secure salted password to send to the login service. And wouldn't this then be kind like a pseudo public key encryption? If the client doesn't have the salt then they are just sending a plain password which gets salted/concatenated once it reaches the server (you would need to do this from what you say so that you can compare the provided password to what is stored in the DB). So then the hacker only needs to brute force it.
And if you provide them the salt during the login process (i.e. not ahead of time) they still only need to figure out or throw a bunch the plain passwords at the server... brute force it.
And if they aren't trying to brute force things through the established app API, then presumably they are attacking say the database directly. And then they can get your data directly.
Do you know any good documents online that explain how this works? Salting that is. I'm still not sure how it really helps. It sounds good in theory. But I guess until I find something that explains it well, I still don't see how to implement it effectively. I have looked, but other than a bunch of posts telling people to concatenate a salt with the password, there isn't much out there as far as I can tell.
If they created monitors that had a resolution high enough that the eye couldn't register any further improvement, then the manufacturers wouldn't have anywhere else to go from there. Once you're at the top, you're at the top. And then the prices would start to come down as the market became saturated. But now they can make up some bullshit marketing ploy that really doesn't do much in terms of improved resolution, and jack the price up whenever a "generation" of displays starts losing market value.
I'm curious, what methods do people generally use for coming up with a salt?
Also, since you obviously need to be able to retrieve the salt in order to validate a login, where do you store it? In a database along with the hashed concatenated salt+password? (RDBMS, LDAP, doesn't matter in this case, a database is a database is a database... a place to store data)? That is you have the unencrypted salt (so you can retrieve it again) possibly in the same table as the hashed value? Since you can't decrypt a hash I assume you take the password entered by the user, concatenate it with the salt you retrieve from the database and then hash it, and then either store the mangled concatenated pair when storing a new password, or compare the mangled up salt+password to what is stored in the database if someone is trying to log in. Or do you pick some aspect of the account that isn't likely to change and use it as a salt so you don't have to store it, and then hope the hacker doesn't figure out your scheme (or a disgruntled co-worker doesn't spill the algorithmic beans to the world).
I guess if the attacker hasn't been able to get into your database they have to figure out the salt etc. But if they manage to hack your system and get into the database the whole thing is moot.
Enlighten me people!
Shouldn't this really be called the "next political meme race?"
Because they're a COUPLE OF KNUCKLEHEADS! I'll miss 'em. I'm not sure which I like more, Wait Wait or Car Talk, but one follows the other, so who cares? Well I do, about them both. Ah, this does suck, but they gotta take some time to relax. Hey... wait a minute....
If the OP actually owns the code and he/she gives the client a copy of the source code, then they also need to have the client sign a Non Disclosure Agreement or the OP could end up in a worse situation. It should state the client can't disclose or sell the code and use it only for internal purposes, etc. etc. etc. Imagine a system where all the code you spent time and money to develop is given away and anyone who wants it can use it. You'd be out of business. And you wouldn't be able to pay off the bills you incurred while not making money while writing the initial code. But very, very often the code ends up being owned by the people who commissioned it to be written. This would then invalidate your point entirely.
And the answer is: One is a scum sucking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish!
Tastelessness is in the eye of the beholder.
Your tin foil hat is showing.
So are you saying that with light table you don't have to type code into an editor or compile the code? Great, we can hire programmers from the same demographic that McDonalds cooks come from now. Oh wait, you're saying we'll still have to write code? But not in an editor? Oh, we'll still have to use an editor? OK. But we won't need to compile the code? Oh, we'll still have to compile the code too. So what the fuck are you on about then?
This looks interesting, and it will be even more interesting to see how it might be applied to say enterprise java apps (or any enterprise scale application whether in C, Java, whatever) as opposed to web based scripting languages. I'm all for something that provides more real estate for working with code etc. but it still boils down to an editor and a compiler (unless you are using only scripting languages). I'm in the wait and see mode on this one.
Thanks, I needed that. Too funny.
Generally (at least in the U.S. and probably Canada), the venue is responsible for paying royalties for music played in the establishment. It is usually a monthly or yearly flat rate based on how many patrons you can accommodate. It covers live and recorded music that is copyrighted by someone else. So a live band, a DJ, a juke box, whatever. Most places are supposed to have a small sign up to show they paid the dues. If the band records the performance and it includes cover songs, then they have to pay royalties based on how many copies they sell. So the bottom line is that unless they are recording and selling the recording, the performers don't have to worry about fees. And if the songs are originals, they don't have to worry about fees when recording either. Unless they like suing themselves.
This is Slashdot. Your list is actually a priority list of thing to virtualize.
I agree, but what makes me ponder is that the European court said to allow copyright on an API would allow monopolizing ideas. Isn't that what allowing business rules patents does? Ie patent ideas? Hopefully, somehow, Alsup's logic pervades into the business rule / software patent realm and blots out this travesty of justice too.