All we need now is a way to plug in the smartphone of our choice, the script ported to phone apps, and a dealer willing to let us take a Roadster out for some test driving. To be a valid test drive, one should get to go until the fuel/power runs out.
The site video requires Flash, so I skipped the video.
The pretty EFI screen makes it look like they're actually expecting the buyers of the board to be using EFI. With the exception of Intel Apple machines, few users actually used the EFI capability on boards that had it.
Although the EFI screen looks nice, those thermometer-like displays for voltage don't really make much sense. It's not like showing a small indication for CPU voltage tells the user anything useful. If they'd wanted to do that, showing the current drain (or calculating power consumption) of various parts of the system would have been much more interesting.
For some reason they airbrushed out the CPU details from the screen shown. Perhaps that means they were running an unreleased chip under an NDA?
These motherboard articles would be more fun if they said something about compatibility with various OSes, certainly Linux. Some would no doubt be curious if any got OS X running too.
I guess this board doesn't have Linux available to boot from in ROM? These days many might find that a great "safe browsing" malware resistant mode. How about giving motherboards physical switches or jumpers so firmware can be hard wired to read-only for safety?
This article sure looks suspect coming from someone at a place with a name like PageOnePR? Going to their site it is clear the business is about promoting branding on social web sites. This isn't a group of coders working on improving quality. It's about PR and headlines. It's obviously not Android or open source that they're promoting.
My money is on MS-funded FUD just as the MS phone is about to ship...
It's pathetic to behold, and a wonder we still have a nation at all.
Actually a major portion of the Earth was destroyed some time ago and you've all been plugged into simulations coming from the international space station and the moon. You're not actually awake, but are plugged into an interface. Due to a writers' strike and shortages of tantalum and thorium, you may vanish from the simulation at any time. My condolences.
From TFA it really sounds like these 33 people are members of the project but not members of the OO.o project that were paid by Sun.
The 33 live! After a difficult couple of months, with the support and prayers of people like us around the world, these 33 have found their fork and are anxious to again be productive as they taste freedom. Best wishes to them and those who join with them as their lives take a new direction.
It's a bit surprising to find out that some relatively unknown experimenters may have actually stumbled on tunnel-diode-like technology in the early days of radio over 80 years ago. I think they were officially invented by Sony in 1957, although most that I've seen in the U.S. came from G.E. http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/SC-HP/outline/overview/history.html
Perhaps some here have experimented with a homemade cat-whisker diode for a crystal radio. As it turns out, making a little oscillator with a homemade metal-metal tunnel diode is easy enough that many here could do it. (a couple of variations using other materials are linked from the page below)
I wish the story had made it clear just what sort of diode properties besides "cheaper" they were going for. It doesn't seem like they'd merge into current I.C. designs being of a much different process. The energy conversion thing is interesting, but that's much different than fast efficient diodes for switching power supplies or tunnel diodes for oscillators and high-frequency or pulse/trigger circuits. And it's a little hard to tell exactly how it ties in with LCD technology as that's pretty low frequency. Most digital I.C.s don't need or contain many diodes. They don't say anything about this helping to make better transistors. Normal diodes, even fast and cheap ones, usually can't replace transistors. And more unusual diodes with the negative-resistance effects of tunnel-diodes would certainly would not be a simple transplant into logic circuits. They've been well suited to a small niche of applications in the past.
I guess it is time to dig up the old Trek episode where Spock was on old Earth building electronics with a bunch of vacuum tubes...
Even in the era of Mac OS 9, early iMacs and G3 Powerbooks were able to do transfers over infrared. The range was short, but it was handy when one didn't have an ethernet cable available.
I would have thought that HIPPA compliance alone would have been enough to force the entire medical profession far away from I.E. 6 and Windows. Has anyone ever counted the total number of vulnerabilities that have been seen over the life of that platform?
Continuing along that path seems crazy. Something tells me that if the people involved had demanded open source development and GPL licensing, app evolution would have come far faster and at much lower cost.
Perhaps a number of organizations/facilities can get together and fund development of open source solutions. Working collectively it should be far cheaper than going it alone. Surely some of the work has been done already?
- - - I.E. 6, every bit as worthy a cause as preserving herpes to survive an extinction-level event
Yes, I suspect there would be a market for the home-delivery versions of this. Whether it's a grumpy spouse, noisy kids, a barking dog, or just everyone watching/listening to different things at once, many would appreciate relief.
- - - There is no confirmation that the recent Obama meeting had anything at all to do with an Apple-built Cylon being built for president in 2016.
It sounds like a technique that a random hacker won't do. That is a bunch of work to get that going on a user's system. By that, I mean you are modding a rom on something on the pci slot.
Quite a bit of hardware has firmware in flash memory instead of ROM.
For popular hardware, something might easily be passed off as part of an update. Who would know if something sinister was part of a firmware update for your optical drive or video card? Flash is very convenient for manufacturers. It does seem like a good idea to have some sort of jumper or switch set to disable write access during normal operation. Of course that won't help if hardware arrived with hidden features in place.
Perhaps systems could come with some sort of validator USB key, something that isn't writable. Have it contain a utility that checks the md5 / sha1 hashes for all of the firmware in your system, maybe do the same thing for OS components too.
The problem is getting results from spending small amounts of money. We're now in a situation where massive amounts have to be spent to bribe anyone.
Clearly it is an uphill battle to take the corrupting influence of money out of the political process. Given the ineffectiveness of controls on the cash going in, perhaps the public could be better served and more quickly so by changes limiting where the cash can go. Do away with paid radio/tv political ads entirely.
The broadcast industry has had major deregulation, some of it very harmful to the concept of stations serving the public interest. The FCC should take steps to diversify ownership of broadcast stations, and to have licensees that live within the coverage area of stations they own. Stations make plenty of money as it is. There's no reason why they can't operate with NO paid political advertising, carrying only non-paid public service broadcasts informing the public of issues and candidates of concern to their audience. The current situation with sometimes unknown interests outside the community of license controlling the information (or more often disinformation) flow is totally unacceptable.
The old method where broadcasters have no mandatory amount of public service time, nor a cap on the amount of ad time, should be returned. Broadcasters would commit to numbers for both in their license applications, and report on both for the prior license period. As before, two weeks of the year of the licensees choosing would be exempt from the self-imposed limits. (typically they were holiday and election ad periods). Stations doing a poor job with either too little public service, or too much advertising would be in an unfavorable light should someone else wish to protest license renewal. In theory, with deregulation, market forces (competition) was suppose to naturally lead broadcasters to do the right things, but that has been a dismal failure. We got infomercials, ad time going from around 10 minutes an hour to 18 or 20, many of the public service announcements run in the middle of the night. Much news on local newscasts is actually of a non-local nature or duplicated on other stations under common ownership.
The dismal situation with station operating and ownership has many far reaching effects on society. Quality entertainment programming is less viable with so many ads, the public has become more ignorant, large scale commercial interests are favored over local business, depth and diversity of news coverage has seriously suffered. People blogging on the net make contributions, but the net is not a substitute for funded transparent news operations. Indeed it is trivial to cook up a website to distribute misinformation or support others doing so.
Broadcasters making a profit is fine, but the MUST be held to acting as trustees of the public interest. Their function is too important to allow the greed of anything goes for a profit to be allowed. Make broadcasters accountable to the people IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE LICENSED TO.
It would probably puzzle some in other countries if a bunch of people from the U.S. wrote saying they were going to boycott for their adopting canned laws from the U.S. Of course even the U.S. is a victim of some canned laws. The lobbies write them then start funneling in the cash.
The situation is only worse now that corporations have "free speech" cash funneling rights. How about we ask the F.C.C. to change the regulation of broadcasters to make all political broadcasts public service time (they can and should run some, but can't take payment). Also, get back to local station ownership where a majority holding percentage of the ownership must live within the primary service contour area.
The concept of broadcasters operating as trustees of the public interest is an important one that we've drifted far from. Let's correct that.
Don't look now, but I think those hosts got infected with artificial intelligence bots that connect to tech news sites and bicker about word usage and validity.
I wonder if there will be an changes in response to the Oracle Java suit. If I understand correctly, it was a matter of the completeness of the Java support. Perhaps that could mean Android would be able to run apps that weren't intended for the phones?
In this case we have a story talking about physical detection equipment. If it detects evil-doers with explosives or whatever, I'd expect we'd hear reports of what follows. It's much easier to see a tangible result than that from improved intelligence.
To make Slashdot, I'd hope the story would be a little more tech focused. If it's about gear using microwaves, don't call it "X-Ray".
The tech and the social implications of using highly invasive methods certainly warrant discussion. Where to use this stuff... ports like Long Beach, events with major crowds or important figures, high schools with troubled teens... or just everywhere?? This stuff sure is expensive. Maybe they'll contract scanning out to Google and have it all ad funded? Coming soon on Google Living-Room View... (depending on the contents of your emails, Google may helpfully display ads from arms dealers?)
From the Ghostery/Better Advertising Privacy Policy- "We collect user traffic patterns"; "we track click-through information, including IP addresses"; "We may place a text file called a 'cookie' in the browser files of your computer."; "We may provide personal information to or permit access to personal information by our vendors and service providers"; "If Better Advertising should ever file for bankruptcy or have its assets sold to or merged with another entity, information Better Advertising receives from you, from this website, is a Better Advertising asset and may be transferred."
Then how come Safari (the default browser on a Mac) only has 4-5% share according to web usage statistics?
Aside from some using other browsers on Macs, it is also important to recognize that web usage is more a reflection of the installed base than of current sales. (The situation for smartphones was a bit different since there had been an installed base with browsers that saw little use because the experience/functionality was so poor) One has to be pretty careful when drawing conclusions from browser data. For example the share of XP users seen browsing doesn't accurately reflect the percentage of new systems running XP. Browser stats also don't reveal whether machines were retail or corporate purchases.
There's something sinister about blocking display of content on a platform that otherwise supports the tech needed for viewing. It certainly looks to be anti-competitive behavior worthy of examination by the F.C.C. or whoever.
Hair on fire? Well I did consider pulling some out... it seems when registering as a developer (updating an ancient ADC account actually), one has to agree to a lengthy agreement. They nicely provide a link to get/read it in a.PDF file (scrolling through a long doc in a web page is a bit much). When I actually clicked to get it all I saw was permission denied. I doubt I can read the one in the web page before being hit by the 10 minute security timeout. Oh well.
That's true. The "whitespace" idea only works in rural regions, not heavily-populated areas like the North, northeast, or mid-atlantic which use every channel from 1-51 (including the FM band).
Note that Channel 37 is not used for over the air tv broadcasting in North America and the few other uses area very limited (things like low-power indoor hospital equipment. It's being kept very quiet for those listening for interesting things from deep space. The signal that one would get on Earth from a hand-held garage door remote on the moon would be comparable to a very strong signal from deep space. The spectrum has to be kept very quiet to be able to hear faint signals, so scratch channel 37.
I'm curious when the FCC is going to figure out that hardly any broadcasters remained on their former analog channels 2 through 6. (54 to 88 MHz, minus a 4 MHz gap between channels 4 and 5) Most still display the old number as a virtual channel number, but are actually on UHF. For those with mountains to deal with, the change severely degraded coverage. Broadcasters apparently figured few people would be willing to put up big tv antennas with the longer elements needed for those low channels. High band VHF (7 - 13, 176 to 216 Mhz) and UHF (470 MHz and up) signals use much smaller antennas. I'd like to see more of the rural area served by the low-band channels. If they allowed power levels close to what they used with analog service, many could easily get well over 100 miles on those channels. Even at the currently allowed power levels coverage is better than the other channels if people have the proper antennas (but often worse with the wrong antennas). A half-wavelength dipole at 54 MHz (channel 2) is near 3 meters long so the biggest elements near the back of a tv antenna should be about that length. The length at channel 14 is about 1/9th as much.
The FM band, 88 - 108 MHz is not used by the tv channels. It's between tv channels 6 and 7, as are a number of public services and the 2 meter ham band. There's a much bigger gap between channels 13 and 14 (216 to 470 MHz), but that is allocated to various government and commercial service, and a little there for ham use also.
Since Steve said that FaceTime specification will be open, and we have access to Android source, can't others just take the source, add FaceTime support, and make the modified binary/source available? (sometime if not today)
If Google wants to add support for something else fine... why not keep support for both?
I'm assuming that people can actually do useful things like this with the Android source. Did I miss something? Have any here modified/built/installed the Android you're running?
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All we need now is a way to plug in the smartphone of our choice, the script ported to phone apps, and a dealer willing to let us take a Roadster out for some test driving. To be a valid test drive, one should get to go until the fuel/power runs out.
The site video requires Flash, so I skipped the video.
The pretty EFI screen makes it look like they're actually expecting the buyers of the board to be using EFI. With the exception of Intel Apple machines, few users actually used the EFI capability on boards that had it.
Although the EFI screen looks nice, those thermometer-like displays for voltage don't really make much sense. It's not like showing a small indication for CPU voltage tells the user anything useful.
If they'd wanted to do that, showing the current drain (or calculating power consumption) of various parts of the system would have been much more interesting.
For some reason they airbrushed out the CPU details from the screen shown. Perhaps that means they were running an unreleased chip under an NDA?
These motherboard articles would be more fun if they said something about compatibility with various OSes, certainly Linux. Some would no doubt be curious if any got OS X running too.
I guess this board doesn't have Linux available to boot from in ROM? These days many might find that a great "safe browsing" malware resistant mode. How about giving motherboards physical switches or jumpers so firmware can be hard wired to read-only for safety?
This article sure looks suspect coming from someone at a place with a name like PageOnePR?
Going to their site it is clear the business is about promoting branding on social web sites.
This isn't a group of coders working on improving quality. It's about PR and headlines.
It's obviously not Android or open source that they're promoting.
My money is on MS-funded FUD just as the MS phone is about to ship...
It's pathetic to behold, and a wonder we still have a nation at all.
Actually a major portion of the Earth was destroyed some time ago and you've all been plugged into simulations coming from the international space station and the moon. You're not actually awake, but are plugged into an interface. Due to a writers' strike and shortages of tantalum and thorium, you may vanish from the simulation at any time. My condolences.
From TFA it really sounds like these 33 people are members of the project but not members of the OO.o project that were paid by Sun.
The 33 live! After a difficult couple of months, with the support and prayers of people like us around the world, these 33 have found their fork and are anxious to again be productive as they taste freedom. Best wishes to them and those who join with them as their lives take a new direction.
It's a bit surprising to find out that some relatively unknown experimenters may have actually stumbled on tunnel-diode-like technology in the early days of radio over 80 years ago. I think they were officially invented by Sony in 1957, although most that I've seen in the U.S. came from G.E.
http://www.sony.co.jp/Products/SC-HP/outline/overview/history.html
Perhaps some here have experimented with a homemade cat-whisker diode for a crystal radio.
As it turns out, making a little oscillator with a homemade metal-metal tunnel diode is easy enough that many here could do it. (a couple of variations using other materials are linked from the page below)
http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/ntype-nr.htm
I wish the story had made it clear just what sort of diode properties besides "cheaper" they were going for. It doesn't seem like they'd merge into current I.C. designs being of a much different process. The energy conversion thing is interesting, but that's much different than fast efficient diodes for switching power supplies or tunnel diodes for oscillators and high-frequency or pulse/trigger circuits. And it's a little hard to tell exactly how it ties in with LCD technology as that's pretty low frequency. Most digital I.C.s don't need or contain many diodes. They don't say anything about this helping to make better transistors. Normal diodes, even fast and cheap ones, usually can't replace transistors. And more unusual diodes with the negative-resistance effects of tunnel-diodes would certainly would not be a simple transplant into logic circuits. They've been well suited to a small niche of applications in the past.
I guess it is time to dig up the old Trek episode where Spock was on old Earth building electronics with a bunch of vacuum tubes...
Even in the era of Mac OS 9, early iMacs and G3 Powerbooks were able to do transfers over infrared. The range was short, but it was handy when one didn't have an ethernet cable available.
I would have thought that HIPPA compliance alone would have been enough to force the entire medical profession far away from I.E. 6 and Windows. Has anyone ever counted the total number of vulnerabilities that have been seen over the life of that platform?
Continuing along that path seems crazy. Something tells me that if the people involved had demanded open source development and GPL licensing, app evolution would have come far faster and at much lower cost.
Perhaps a number of organizations/facilities can get together and fund development of open source solutions. Working collectively it should be far cheaper than going it alone. Surely some of the work has been done already?
- - -
I.E. 6, every bit as worthy a cause as preserving herpes to survive an extinction-level event
Yes, I suspect there would be a market for the home-delivery versions of this. Whether it's a grumpy spouse, noisy kids, a barking dog, or just everyone watching/listening to different things at once, many would appreciate relief.
- - -
There is no confirmation that the recent Obama meeting had anything at all to do with an Apple-built Cylon being built for president in 2016.
It sounds like a technique that a random hacker won't do. That is a bunch of work to get that going on a user's system. By that, I mean you are modding a rom on something on the pci slot.
Quite a bit of hardware has firmware in flash memory instead of ROM.
For popular hardware, something might easily be passed off as part of an update.
Who would know if something sinister was part of a firmware update for your optical drive or video card? Flash is very convenient for manufacturers. It does seem like a good idea to have some sort of jumper or switch set to disable write access during normal operation. Of course that won't help if hardware arrived with hidden features in place.
Perhaps systems could come with some sort of validator USB key, something that isn't writable. Have it contain a utility that checks the md5 / sha1 hashes for all of the firmware in your system, maybe do the same thing for OS components too.
The problem is getting results from spending small amounts of money. We're now in a situation where massive amounts have to be spent to bribe anyone.
Clearly it is an uphill battle to take the corrupting influence of money out of the political process.
Given the ineffectiveness of controls on the cash going in, perhaps the public could be better served and more quickly so by changes limiting where the cash can go. Do away with paid radio/tv political ads entirely.
The broadcast industry has had major deregulation, some of it very harmful to the concept of stations serving the public interest. The FCC should take steps to diversify ownership of broadcast stations, and to have licensees that live within the coverage area of stations they own. Stations make plenty of money as it is. There's no reason why they can't operate with NO paid political advertising, carrying only non-paid public service broadcasts informing the public of issues and candidates of concern to their audience. The current situation with sometimes unknown interests outside the community of license controlling the information (or more often disinformation) flow is totally unacceptable.
The old method where broadcasters have no mandatory amount of public service time, nor a cap on the amount of ad time, should be returned. Broadcasters would commit to numbers for both in their license applications, and report on both for the prior license period. As before, two weeks of the year of the licensees choosing would be exempt from the self-imposed limits. (typically they were holiday and election ad periods). Stations doing a poor job with either too little public service, or too much advertising would be in an unfavorable light should someone else wish to protest license renewal. In theory, with deregulation, market forces (competition) was suppose to naturally lead broadcasters to do the right things, but that has been a dismal failure. We got infomercials, ad time going from around 10 minutes an hour to 18 or 20, many of the public service announcements run in the middle of the night. Much news on local newscasts is actually of a non-local nature or duplicated on other stations under common ownership.
The dismal situation with station operating and ownership has many far reaching effects on society.
Quality entertainment programming is less viable with so many ads, the public has become more ignorant, large scale commercial interests are favored over local business, depth and diversity of news coverage has seriously suffered. People blogging on the net make contributions, but the net is not a substitute for funded transparent news operations. Indeed it is trivial to cook up a website to distribute misinformation or support others doing so.
Broadcasters making a profit is fine, but the MUST be held to acting as trustees of the public interest. Their function is too important to allow the greed of anything goes for a profit to be allowed. Make broadcasters accountable to the people IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE LICENSED TO.
It would probably puzzle some in other countries if a bunch of people from the U.S. wrote saying they were going to boycott for their adopting canned laws from the U.S. Of course even the U.S. is a victim of some canned laws. The lobbies write them then start funneling in the cash.
The situation is only worse now that corporations have "free speech" cash funneling rights.
How about we ask the F.C.C. to change the regulation of broadcasters to make all political broadcasts public service time (they can and should run some, but can't take payment). Also, get back to local station ownership where a majority holding percentage of the ownership must live within the primary service contour area.
The concept of broadcasters operating as trustees of the public interest is an important one that we've drifted far from. Let's correct that.
Don't look now, but I think those hosts got infected with artificial intelligence bots that connect to tech news sites and bicker about word usage and validity.
I wonder if there will be an changes in response to the Oracle Java suit. If I understand correctly, it was a matter of the completeness of the Java support. Perhaps that could mean Android would be able to run apps that weren't intended for the phones?
Inside deals?
I think it is likely that a number of developers were upset that Oracle kicked LibreOffice supporters out of OpenOffice.
http://blogs.computerworld.com/17197/oracle_kicks_libreoffice_supporters_out_of_openoffice
In this case we have a story talking about physical detection equipment. If it detects evil-doers with explosives or whatever, I'd expect we'd hear reports of what follows. It's much easier to see a tangible result than that from improved intelligence.
To make Slashdot, I'd hope the story would be a little more tech focused. If it's about gear using microwaves, don't call it "X-Ray".
The tech and the social implications of using highly invasive methods certainly warrant discussion. Where to use this stuff... ports like Long Beach, events with major crowds or important figures, high schools with troubled teens... or just everywhere??
This stuff sure is expensive. Maybe they'll contract scanning out to Google and have it all ad funded? Coming soon on Google Living-Room View... (depending on the contents of your emails, Google may helpfully display ads from arms dealers?)
Then there's the matter of testing Sarah when she is 70...
So... what happens when the chatbots get mod points?
If the reviews are to be believed, Ghostery has been sold to an advertising company and may be functioning as spyware
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/9609
From the Ghostery/Better Advertising Privacy Policy- "We collect user traffic patterns"; "we track click-through information, including IP addresses"; "We may place a text file called a 'cookie' in the browser files of your computer."; "We may provide personal information to or permit access to personal information by our vendors and service providers"; "If Better Advertising should ever file for bankruptcy or have its assets sold to or merged with another entity, information Better Advertising receives from you, from this website, is a Better Advertising asset and may be transferred."
Then how come Safari (the default browser on a Mac) only has 4-5% share according to web usage statistics?
Aside from some using other browsers on Macs, it is also important to recognize that web usage is more a reflection of the installed base than of current sales. (The situation for smartphones was a bit different since there had been an installed base with browsers that saw little use because the experience/functionality was so poor) One has to be pretty careful when drawing conclusions from browser data. For example the share of XP users seen browsing doesn't accurately reflect the percentage of new systems running XP. Browser stats also don't reveal whether machines were retail or corporate purchases.
There's something sinister about blocking display of content on a platform that otherwise supports the tech needed for viewing. It certainly looks to be anti-competitive behavior worthy of examination by the F.C.C. or whoever.
I wonder what else they're doing.
Hair on fire? Well I did consider pulling some out... it seems when registering as a developer (updating an ancient ADC account actually), one has to agree to a lengthy agreement. They nicely provide a link to get/read it in a .PDF file (scrolling through a long doc in a web page is a bit much). When I actually clicked to get it all I saw was permission denied. I doubt I can read the one in the web page before being hit by the 10 minute security timeout. Oh well.
That's true. The "whitespace" idea only works in rural regions, not heavily-populated areas like the North, northeast, or mid-atlantic which use every channel from 1-51 (including the FM band).
Note that Channel 37 is not used for over the air tv broadcasting in North America and the few other uses area very limited (things like low-power indoor hospital equipment. It's being kept very quiet for those listening for interesting things from deep space. The signal that one would get on Earth from a hand-held garage door remote on the moon would be comparable to a very strong signal from deep space. The spectrum has to be kept very quiet to be able to hear faint signals, so scratch channel 37.
I'm curious when the FCC is going to figure out that hardly any broadcasters remained on their former analog channels 2 through 6. (54 to 88 MHz, minus a 4 MHz gap between channels 4 and 5) Most still display the old number as a virtual channel number, but are actually on UHF. For those with mountains to deal with, the change severely degraded coverage. Broadcasters apparently figured few people would be willing to put up big tv antennas with the longer elements needed for those low channels. High band VHF (7 - 13, 176 to 216 Mhz) and UHF (470 MHz and up) signals use much smaller antennas. I'd like to see more of the rural area served by the low-band channels. If they allowed power levels close to what they used with analog service, many could easily get well over 100 miles on those channels. Even at the currently allowed power levels coverage is better than the other channels if people have the proper antennas (but often worse with the wrong antennas). A half-wavelength dipole at 54 MHz (channel 2) is near 3 meters long so the biggest elements near the back of a tv antenna should be about that length. The length at channel 14 is about 1/9th as much.
The FM band, 88 - 108 MHz is not used by the tv channels. It's between tv channels 6 and 7, as are a number of public services and the 2 meter ham band. There's a much bigger gap between channels 13 and 14 (216 to 470 MHz), but that is allocated to various government and commercial service, and a little there for ham use also.
Since Steve said that FaceTime specification will be open, and we have access to Android source, can't others just take the source, add FaceTime support, and make the modified binary/source available? (sometime if not today)
If Google wants to add support for something else fine... why not keep support for both?
I'm assuming that people can actually do useful things like this with the Android source.
Did I miss something? Have any here modified/built/installed the Android you're running?
He'd better be careful. Rover, the big bubble device from the original The Prisoner tv series, may come after him.