You probably are right. I have heard Negroponte a couple of times and have had the impression. I also have a couple of facts to illustrate that his vision is not shared by prominent people.
India did not participate in the OLPC project itself. If it had caught in India, it could have been a different story altogether. There are thousands of kids in India, who in couple of years come to grasp with technologies. Government of India, did not feel that OLPC was a viable thing to do for India schools. Instead of backing off, OLPC should have worked out a solution for Indian market. Considering that India is a third world country and where technology catches up pretty quickly and students catch up with the learning curve easily (British gift of English and Infrastructure being one reason)
Even before OLPC initiative, Negropontes Media Lab initiative suffered in India. Then minister Arun Shourie (who is a recognized leader and thoughtful person in his own right), felt that Negropontes Intiative's were not very convincing. Even if it had a tag of MIT.
Also I tend to trust Ivan KrstiÄ more than Negroponte. Those were the guys who sweated it out to bring OLPC. It was sad to see all the tech guys back off the project.
One more thing, If you beat your drums before you have something, you are basically full filling your ego, nothing else. OLPC did that from the first day. It was also called 100 dollar laptop. Is it available for 100 dollars yet?
One Tab for your Internal Wiki. Another one for wikipedia. You can also highlight a particular word in your internal wiki, do a right click and search wikipedia (if your search is set so). The search term automatically open the wikipedia content in a new tab. How amazing. Isn't it?
Is it only me wondering how did this article ever made it to/. ?
Guys, please get it straight. I know how this works in a company (as I have 4 patents in my name) and I assume, it would work similar with Universities also (reasons below).
First of all, with patents you have an ASSIGNEE as well as INVENTOR. The Company you work for by consent decree, owns all your intellectual property (in almost all cases), so anything you invent and file for patent while working with a company, you are the Inventor, but Company is the ASSIGNEE, it gets the right to use it/productize it and sue another.
If you don't want that, quit the company and file it with you as the ASSIGNEE and INVENTOR.
Most people wont do that, because Inventions are incremental additions over existing features, companies generally have pools of patents to protect itself from infringement accusations.
This works out for Individual's also because they get the Recognition, Money and they realize that their feature wont make a startup by itself. (If it does make and you have courage to do it, then as I said, an employee should quit and go for it all alone).
How is it expected to work different with Univerisity?
Both ASSIGNEE and INVENTOR be Student itself? Well consider the case, student graduates and remembers his university using the software, which he owns (ASSIGNEE) patent and finds that its a 'teaser-time'. You wont need much imagination to come up with the things can do to earn money.
When at University and while working as student, I think it is a safe measure to either. a) Student(s) - Inventor(s) and Univ - ASSIGNEE b) Student(s) - Inventor(s) and Student(s) and Univ - ASSIGNEE.
I personally prefer option b) and I think this is what the articles and comment wish to suggest as how things should be.
I just attended a lecture from a space scientist, who was explaining the importance of basic science in the society, that is, it helps promote rational thinking. I could not agree more. Computer has a "Science" in it. Try to get them easy, readable and popular computer books which not only teaches computers but also explains logical and rational way of doing things.
- Fundamentals of Computers, whichever you find, written ideally for school students (10th grade)
- Historical books on advancement in Computer Field.
- The Road Ahead by Bill Gates ( though not about Computers but people would recognize it)
- The Mythical Man Month by Fred Brooks.
Amusing books could help, like: - Alice in wonderland
Any activity which requires some undivided amount of concentration will be hurdled if prone to interruptions. Be it nosy boss, twittering friend or a blinking IM window. There is no secret in this.
Can you buy license for "listening" alone without copy? Does such a thing exist in the world? You buy the song, the file and the license prevents you from sharing it or reproducing it for public use. AFAIK, license for listening is weird.
I cannot understand as why the parent got modded so high. Slashdot crowd, is it? The intent of the submission of this news is to be aware of things that Internet can easily allow heionous acts like pedophilia. Experts, who are aware of that topic and its harmful effects thereof are speaking on this and it is upon us, netizens and technical crowd to create a environment that is safe for your and my child. The first step toward that is awareness and then prevention. Saying that you can do that, that is nothing new is an indifferent attitude towards generally unacceptable act.
But the Indian songs also have Microsoft and Bill Gates in it. Average person in where in the world, knows Bill Gates and wants to be one too. How would you take this?
You are right. This is as per design in python2.6 (and below) and I dont know if addition of () is removing this feature in py3k, in which case, it is a welcome move. The 2.6 (and below) language reference says that print is designed to output a space before any object. And some search goes to find and that is controlled by softspace attribute of sys.stdout. Way to print without leading space is using sys.stdout.write()
Whatever it takes, instill the initial curiosity in your students. Like others have suggested a healthy debate/discussion, dinner table talks with the parents can help. But encourage your students to work hard on the subjects that they have found interesting. Spend more time on his interests and try to explore it further. Its kind of a mechanism that more you work on it, more you will love it.
You make sense. Enough of laugh, this is some thing serious guys. If you have come till hear laughing all the while, just ponder and think about what could be a good solution. Hope the kenyan wildlife society people find it and save the villagers the misery.
There is a concept that we adhere to that long and hard way is always the correct one. Yes, many of us believe in that and have seen that working. But look at the world around you, cases you find for long and hard way vs short and easy way are almost equal in number. The result of both ways, is something we will know only in future and by that time, we must have forgotten the original need. I for the one, have trained my brain to work out in long and hard way, which my brain believes will be beneficial. This is especially with respect to traumas resulting from relationship break ups and physical or emotional abuse. But there are cases where Medical help is must required, and long way might be greater than 70 years (which is almost human life-span). For those, to suggest the long-hard way is like denying them a good solution. Medical assistance is of great help for them.
Any reasonable Indian, when he comes across this story and finds the news hyperlinked to "Times of India" is sure to ignore the news and wait for information from more worthy resources. TOI, has an habit of creating all news as sensational, and some times to the point of 'formatting a misleading' news. The project could have been yet-another-cheap laptop project with no relation to any price tag or information on OLPC.
Its a great possession for students and in places like in India where Internet, Broadband Internet has not yet penetrated deep, this could be a valuable piece to own.
SOS Children used to release a version of Wikipedia on CD . I am trying to figure out how this project is different, as both seem to be from the same wikipedia community.
Furthermore, I was looking information on redistributing the Wikipedia on CD. Wikipedia content license allows you, but can CD be downloaded and redistributed for cost of packaging to others, who might not have internet access?
Camfield contends that such an expensive undertaking should at least be field-tested in pilot programs If you browse the wikipedia link of OLPC you will find the photo of Cambodian School, where a pilot laptop program has been in place since 2001.
good college they expect you know HOW to program in C++, Thats too much to expect out of any college and I completely disagree with you that a college should expect you to know HOW To program in _any language_ in order for them to make a good programmer out of you.
( I am excluding IITs out of this discussion):Well, the situation in India is out of thousands of college, I can bet only 10 % teach C++, students are taught C instead and they are _not taught_ programming. They know the syntax and semantics of C language, pointers, tricky questions in pointers etc. And with too many self-financing colleges around, there will only be 2 per 100 good C Programmer in any average college who know the syntax of C thoroughly. That is due to a variety of reasons, one of them could be faculty and other reasons could be to get a job in India with a reputed company, it is sufficient for you to how to solve some aptitude questions and solve the C syntax problems. These jobs are irrespective of the interest or domain, and many such jobs will be from services companies, black box software testing, support operations, simple coding etc. However, the most important thing missing in India is "programming" itself and the art of writing software. Unfortunately, many of us dont know and that art doesn't come easily.:( However many a times, when we get a job, we are satisfied with mudane things which keep us busy through out the day and for weeks and for life.:)
Learning about a Programming Language does not make an expert programmer just as learning about brushes and pigments does not make an expert painter!
Here is what I do it, using nanoblogger and using vim as my editor. I wouuld rely on vim Syntax handling ablities and covert the portion of the code into:TOHtml.
Slashdot Mirror
You probably are right. I have heard Negroponte a couple of times and have had the impression. I also have a couple of facts to illustrate that his vision is not shared by prominent people.
Also I tend to trust Ivan KrstiÄ more than Negroponte. Those were the guys who sweated it out to bring OLPC. It was sad to see all the tech guys back off the project.
One more thing, If you beat your drums before you have something, you are basically full filling your ego, nothing else. OLPC did that from the first day.
It was also called 100 dollar laptop. Is it available for 100 dollars yet?
One Tab for your Internal Wiki. Another one for wikipedia.
You can also highlight a particular word in your internal wiki, do a right click and search wikipedia (if your search is set so). The search term automatically open the wikipedia content in a new tab. How amazing. Isn't it?
Is it only me wondering how did this article ever made it to /. ?
HAM? You guys are suggesting our fellow muslims to eat pork? You have any idea how insulting the very thought is!
Who was the one, who did not understand this joke and modded it as Informative? Funny Crowd.
Or if you want it in Python, where readability counts.
python -c "import time;print time.asctime(time.localtime(1234567890))"
As a matter of fact, my computer is "goofy". Shoo away!
Guys, please get it straight. I know how this works in a company (as I have 4 patents in my name) and I assume, it would work similar with Universities also (reasons below).
First of all, with patents you have an ASSIGNEE as well as INVENTOR. The Company you work for by consent decree, owns all your intellectual property (in almost all cases), so anything you invent and file for patent while working with a company, you are the Inventor, but Company is the ASSIGNEE, it gets the right to use it/productize it and sue another.
If you don't want that, quit the company and file it with you as the ASSIGNEE and INVENTOR.
Most people wont do that, because Inventions are incremental additions over existing features, companies generally have pools of patents to protect itself from infringement accusations.
This works out for Individual's also because they get the Recognition, Money and they realize that their feature wont make a startup by itself. (If it does make and you have courage to do it, then as I said, an employee should quit and go for it all alone).
How is it expected to work different with Univerisity?
Both ASSIGNEE and INVENTOR be Student itself?
Well consider the case, student graduates and remembers his university using the software, which he owns (ASSIGNEE) patent and finds that its a 'teaser-time'. You wont need much imagination to come up with the things can do to earn money.
When at University and while working as student, I think it is a safe measure to either.
a) Student(s) - Inventor(s) and Univ - ASSIGNEE
b) Student(s) - Inventor(s) and Student(s) and Univ - ASSIGNEE.
I personally prefer option b) and I think this is what the articles and comment wish to suggest as how things should be.
I just attended a lecture from a space scientist, who was explaining the importance of basic science in the society, that is, it helps promote rational thinking. I could not agree more.
Computer has a "Science" in it. Try to get them easy, readable and popular computer books which not only teaches computers but also explains logical and rational way of doing things.
- Fundamentals of Computers, whichever you find, written ideally for school students (10th grade)
- Historical books on advancement in Computer Field.
- The Road Ahead by Bill Gates ( though not about Computers but people would recognize it)
- The Mythical Man Month by Fred Brooks.
Amusing books could help, like:
- Alice in wonderland
Who are those three? I was about to ask, who uses Apple Macs for DNS?
Any activity which requires some undivided amount of concentration will be hurdled if prone to interruptions. Be it nosy boss, twittering friend or a blinking IM window. There is no secret in this.
Can you buy license for "listening" alone without copy? Does such a thing exist in the world?
You buy the song, the file and the license prevents you from sharing it or reproducing it for public use. AFAIK, license for listening is weird.
I cannot understand as why the parent got modded so high. Slashdot crowd, is it? The intent of the submission of this news is to be aware of things that Internet can easily allow heionous acts like pedophilia. Experts, who are aware of that topic and its harmful effects thereof are speaking on this and it is upon us, netizens and technical crowd to create a environment that is safe for your and my child. The first step toward that is awareness and then prevention.
Saying that you can do that, that is nothing new is an indifferent attitude towards generally unacceptable act.
But the Indian songs also have Microsoft and Bill Gates in it. Average person in where in the world, knows Bill Gates and wants to be one too. How would you take this?
You are right. This is as per design in python2.6 (and below) and I dont know if addition of () is removing this feature in py3k, in which case, it is a welcome move.
The 2.6 (and below) language reference says that print is designed to output a space before any object. And some search goes to find and that is controlled by softspace attribute of sys.stdout.
Way to print without leading space is using sys.stdout.write()
I have kept a note for myselfhere.
I doubt this claim is true. Please mod the above post down, its just a FUD.
Whatever it takes, instill the initial curiosity in your students. Like others have suggested a healthy debate/discussion, dinner table talks with the parents can help. But encourage your students to work hard on the subjects that they have found interesting. Spend more time on his interests and try to explore it further. Its kind of a mechanism that more you work on it, more you will love it.
You make sense. Enough of laugh, this is some thing serious guys. If you have come till hear laughing all the while, just ponder and think about what could be a good solution. Hope the kenyan wildlife society people find it and save the villagers the misery.
There is a concept that we adhere to that long and hard way is always the correct one. Yes, many of us believe in that and have seen that working. But look at the world around you, cases you find for long and hard way vs short and easy way are almost equal in number. The result of both ways, is something we will know only in future and by that time, we must have forgotten the original need.
I for the one, have trained my brain to work out in long and hard way, which my brain believes will be beneficial. This is especially with respect to traumas resulting from relationship break ups and physical or emotional abuse.
But there are cases where Medical help is must required, and long way might be greater than 70 years (which is almost human life-span). For those, to suggest the long-hard way is like denying them a good solution. Medical assistance is of great help for them.
Any reasonable Indian, when he comes across this story and finds the news hyperlinked to "Times of India" is sure to ignore the news and wait for information from more worthy resources. TOI, has an habit of creating all news as sensational, and some times to the point of 'formatting a misleading' news. The project could have been yet-another-cheap laptop project with no relation to any price tag or information on OLPC.
Its a great possession for students and in places like in India where Internet, Broadband Internet has not yet penetrated deep, this could be a valuable piece to own.
SOS Children used to release a version of Wikipedia on CD . I am trying to figure out how this project is different, as both seem to be from the same wikipedia community.
Furthermore, I was looking information on redistributing the Wikipedia on CD. Wikipedia content license allows you, but can CD be downloaded and redistributed for cost of packaging to others, who might not have internet access?
>>Vi looks like a typo, they meant Vista, I think.
I thought much needed full vim support. Vista.. No. I already have an operating system.
Am I the only one wondering, where the heck the podcasts are? And where is the Article Text or Transcript.
good college they expect you know HOW to program in C++,
:( However many a times, when we get a job, we are satisfied with mudane things which keep us busy through out the day and for weeks and for life. :)
Thats too much to expect out of any college and I completely disagree with you that a college should expect you to know HOW To program in _any language_ in order for them to make a good programmer out of you.
( I am excluding IITs out of this discussion):Well, the situation in India is out of thousands of college, I can bet only 10 % teach C++, students are taught C instead and they are _not taught_ programming. They know the syntax and semantics of C language, pointers, tricky questions in pointers etc. And with too many self-financing colleges around, there will only be 2 per 100 good C Programmer in any average college who know the syntax of C thoroughly. That is due to a variety of reasons, one of them could be faculty and other reasons could be to get a job in India with a reputed company, it is sufficient for you to how to solve some aptitude questions and solve the C syntax problems. These jobs are irrespective of the interest or domain, and many such jobs will be from services companies, black box software testing, support operations, simple coding etc.
However, the most important thing missing in India is "programming" itself and the art of writing software. Unfortunately, many of us dont know and that art doesn't come easily.
Learning about a Programming Language does not make an expert programmer just as learning about brushes and pigments does not make an expert painter!
--
Senthil
Did you mean to ask why in a dead forum?
Here is what I do it, using nanoblogger and using vim as my editor. I wouuld rely on vim Syntax handling ablities and covert the portion of the code into :TOHtml.