I think my main problem is that I never had much respect for the laws. Perhaps just respect for not getting caught breaking them. I agree with some of them, of course, for my own moral reasons, but that is a different topic.
I think most people agree that there are laws out there that serve no quality purpose or are just plain ridiculous. So why is this one any better? I have never profited from any downloaded music.
Wow, so mature... "near-sighted"? what am I missing in the distance? Maybe it's s time when people make music for the love of it rather than the money.
I just happen to have a view that differs from yours. Perhaps it is just socialization that has caused so many to believe that they should be compensated with money or credit for information they claim to be theirs. Music is just sounds or vibrations put together creatively. A person may own their live performance as it has some value and can never be recreated, but once you record that performance and put it on some recording medium, now it is just a number. A long string of ones and zeros. No person can claim ownership of a number.
"Privacy is important and if you want to be anonymous that is your own perogative, but to advocate trying to hide one's self instead of advocating simple honesty is dangerous in so many ways to all societies."
What about making VOIP companies comply with wire tapping laws. Why won't the government allow people to set up their own private communication links? Seems like a blatant violation of privacy and property to me. My communication with another party is my property just the same as you claim this music 'belongs' to someone. If I or some company can set up a system to communicate privately so be it. Then we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. You can't own data. You can only hide it. We should all come to grips with this reality of the 21st century.
There are tons of people out there who love spam. If no one ever responded or took interest in the spam, why would anyone spend so much money to send it?
I find it interesting to watch my roomates hurry to call into the home shopping networks because they put that phony timer on there, or say in a commercial that the offer is only valid if you call in the next ten minutes. "While supplies last" is the greatest of all!
It's just like the dihydrogen monoxide stunt. People are really, really dumb, and in the case of spam have small penises and lots of debt.
who are we to decide when it's a species time to go? we are part of nature like everything else, and we seem to think it is our reponsibility to keep everything alive. in the words of Cartman, "It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap!"
OK... anything that can be represented as a binary number (any number for that matter, i.e. data or software) should not be something that can be patented. How can you patent a number? How can you patent something that can be reproduced in nature even if it is very unprobable? like i have said before, if there is no physical limit (or virtually no limit) in supply, there truly is no value. i can't sell you tap water, but i can sell you the pipes and pumps that deliver it to you.
I don't understand why it is considered so shameful to display product names in places where product names usually appear in real life. Shouldn't this make it easier to relate to such a situation? How many times have you walked into a fast food place called 'McDowell's' and had a nice refreshing glass of just plain 'Soda'. This is how advertising should have been all along, instead of separate ads telling me that their produt is the 'best' or recommended by nine out of ten dick headed doctors! Yeah, doctors of english probably!
Chess may be a good way of testing the capabilities of a computer vs. the capabilities of a man in this current stage of technology, but it won't be long before chess become a game like tic tac toe. There are only so many different possibilities in the game of chess, therefore it won't be long before the entire game play tree is available for the machine in which it only has to choose the branch with the least possible win situations for the opponent. This will obviously never be possible for the human.
This will never start working. The public will always rule. It will just be a matter of time before politicians' son's, daughters or grandchildren are under fire from the RIAA and the laws will change overnight.
Blocking child porn sites is like shutting the blinds while a parent is beating their child.
Are they trying to stop people from seeing that these poor children are being abused? I think it makes more sense to let people know this horible crap is going on.
I think it's great that they aren't going to just store these skeletons in the closet. (I hope the RIAA or some other record company doesn't come at me for that Grateful Dead ref. I don't have 2K I swear!!!)
This is not necessarily justifying theft, but rather a redefinition by society.
Here's the way I look at it: (Keep in mind that I do not believe in intellectual property. Once you tell something to someone they own it too. Basically, you can't tell someone a secret.)
In order for something to be stolen, there must be a theif and a victim, where the theif gains something and the victim loses something. There is nothing being lost in this case. These companies are not really losing money, because they haven't earned it yet. They are simply failing to earn it. The services they offer are obsolete.
Artists can make their money by touring. So what if concert ticket prices skyrocket. There is no way to steal a live performance.
We all know, when we buy a CD, it is not the artist we are paying for the music. We are really paying everyone else in between. If it was the music we were paying for then a CD would cost the same amount as its corresponding cassette, but of course this is not the case. A blank CD is actually cheaper than a blank tape, but the CD is more expensive when there is music on it than a tape with the same music on it. Music is property that can be copied at little or no expense. Copies should be worth nothing, but the companies charge more for the CD because more people want the CD. It is a matter of charging more for the product that has more demand. Well, why should demand raise the price when supply is truly infinite? It shouldn't.
The government didn't outlaw e-mail when they found it was hurting the postal service. Now just like e-mail, we have found a less resistant more convenient path around an already established system. Of course we still need the postal service to send physical packages and such, just like it is nice to actually buy the CD to get all the artwork and actual documentation that comes with it. It is natural that things will change over time, and there is no reason to punish or thwart new systems because they undermine old ones. This is going to continue forever as long as technology gets better and things naturally evolve.
I can support my favorite artists when I buy concert tickets. Screw the RIAA!!! You hear me RIAA??? Screw YOU!
The little poll on the side of the MSNBC story just goes to show how many people take X-Files way too seriously.
Up to the time of this post, only 24% have a clue.
Approx. 65% have taken way too many mind "enhancing" drugs, or maybe just need some Paxil.
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I think my main problem is that I never had much respect for the laws. Perhaps just respect for not getting caught breaking them. I agree with some of them, of course, for my own moral reasons, but that is a different topic. I think most people agree that there are laws out there that serve no quality purpose or are just plain ridiculous. So why is this one any better? I have never profited from any downloaded music.
Wow, so mature... "near-sighted"? what am I missing in the distance? Maybe it's s time when people make music for the love of it rather than the money. I just happen to have a view that differs from yours. Perhaps it is just socialization that has caused so many to believe that they should be compensated with money or credit for information they claim to be theirs. Music is just sounds or vibrations put together creatively. A person may own their live performance as it has some value and can never be recreated, but once you record that performance and put it on some recording medium, now it is just a number. A long string of ones and zeros. No person can claim ownership of a number.
"Privacy is important and if you want to be anonymous that is your own perogative, but to advocate trying to hide one's self instead of advocating simple honesty is dangerous in so many ways to all societies."
What about making VOIP companies comply with wire tapping laws. Why won't the government allow people to set up their own private communication links? Seems like a blatant violation of privacy and property to me. My communication with another party is my property just the same as you claim this music 'belongs' to someone. If I or some company can set up a system to communicate privately so be it. Then we wouldn't have this problem in the first place. You can't own data. You can only hide it. We should all come to grips with this reality of the 21st century.
There are tons of people out there who love spam. If no one ever responded or took interest in the spam, why would anyone spend so much money to send it?
I find it interesting to watch my roomates hurry to call into the home shopping networks because they put that phony timer on there, or say in a commercial that the offer is only valid if you call in the next ten minutes. "While supplies last" is the greatest of all!
It's just like the dihydrogen monoxide stunt. People are really, really dumb, and in the case of spam have small penises and lots of debt.
UMMM.... can we say, "Natural Selection?" c'mon... say it with me.. "NATURAL SELECTION"
who are we to decide when it's a species time to go? we are part of nature like everything else, and we seem to think it is our reponsibility to keep everything alive. in the words of Cartman, "It's all a bunch of tree hugging hippie crap!"
OK... anything that can be represented as a binary number (any number for that matter, i.e. data or software) should not be something that can be patented. How can you patent a number? How can you patent something that can be reproduced in nature even if it is very unprobable? like i have said before, if there is no physical limit (or virtually no limit) in supply, there truly is no value. i can't sell you tap water, but i can sell you the pipes and pumps that deliver it to you.
I don't understand why it is considered so shameful to display product names in places where product names usually appear in real life. Shouldn't this make it easier to relate to such a situation? How many times have you walked into a fast food place called 'McDowell's' and had a nice refreshing glass of just plain 'Soda'. This is how advertising should have been all along, instead of separate ads telling me that their produt is the 'best' or recommended by nine out of ten dick headed doctors! Yeah, doctors of english probably!
Chess may be a good way of testing the capabilities of a computer vs. the capabilities of a man in this current stage of technology, but it won't be long before chess become a game like tic tac toe. There are only so many different possibilities in the game of chess, therefore it won't be long before the entire game play tree is available for the machine in which it only has to choose the branch with the least possible win situations for the opponent. This will obviously never be possible for the human.
This will never start working. The public will always rule. It will just be a matter of time before politicians' son's, daughters or grandchildren are under fire from the RIAA and the laws will change overnight.
My reasoning has nothing to do with everyone doing it. I would have the same belief with or without the masses feeling the same way.
Blocking child porn sites is like shutting the blinds while a parent is beating their child.
Are they trying to stop people from seeing that these poor children are being abused? I think it makes more sense to let people know this horible crap is going on.
I think it's great that they aren't going to just store these skeletons in the closet. (I hope the RIAA or some other record company doesn't come at me for that Grateful Dead ref. I don't have 2K I swear!!!)
This is not necessarily justifying theft, but rather a redefinition by society. Here's the way I look at it: (Keep in mind that I do not believe in intellectual property. Once you tell something to someone they own it too. Basically, you can't tell someone a secret.) In order for something to be stolen, there must be a theif and a victim, where the theif gains something and the victim loses something. There is nothing being lost in this case. These companies are not really losing money, because they haven't earned it yet. They are simply failing to earn it. The services they offer are obsolete. Artists can make their money by touring. So what if concert ticket prices skyrocket. There is no way to steal a live performance.
We all know, when we buy a CD, it is not the artist we are paying for the music. We are really paying everyone else in between. If it was the music we were paying for then a CD would cost the same amount as its corresponding cassette, but of course this is not the case. A blank CD is actually cheaper than a blank tape, but the CD is more expensive when there is music on it than a tape with the same music on it. Music is property that can be copied at little or no expense. Copies should be worth nothing, but the companies charge more for the CD because more people want the CD. It is a matter of charging more for the product that has more demand. Well, why should demand raise the price when supply is truly infinite? It shouldn't.
The government didn't outlaw e-mail when they found it was hurting the postal service. Now just like e-mail, we have found a less resistant more convenient path around an already established system. Of course we still need the postal service to send physical packages and such, just like it is nice to actually buy the CD to get all the artwork and actual documentation that comes with it. It is natural that things will change over time, and there is no reason to punish or thwart new systems because they undermine old ones. This is going to continue forever as long as technology gets better and things naturally evolve.
I can support my favorite artists when I buy concert tickets. Screw the RIAA!!! You hear me RIAA??? Screw YOU!
"Ignorance of the law is no excuse", but if I am ignorant of the consequences I can plead insanity? How does this make any sense?
The little poll on the side of the MSNBC story just goes to show how many people take X-Files way too seriously. Up to the time of this post, only 24% have a clue. Approx. 65% have taken way too many mind "enhancing" drugs, or maybe just need some Paxil.