From what I've seen though, as those areas of China become more well developed, the jobs which provide rough working conditions tend to get pushed further inland. Personally, I believe that the labor market in China is improving at a very fast pace and will eventually be corrected by the empowered Chinese middle class.
My point then should have been that the labor market in China might not be of the best conditions at the moment, but it is rapidly improving. In the coastal regions the market is actually very well developed and approaching Western standards.
I agree. Indirectly this also effects battery life by a large amount since a power heavy processor like the Atom requires considerably more battery power and from that weight. iPad is too heavy as is! I tend to take my iPad out of its case when reading at night because the case adds a small but noticeable amount of weight.
Yes, well it also mentions that they might possibly do an architecture switch in the near future. This could be to a 32nm Atom based chip next year or who knows what. By forcing these requirements, they make the process of changing architectures seamless to the users and easy for the developers.
Yes - because there is a shortage of work and otherwise they'd starve.
Which is why there is nothing imo wrong with sending work to China.
Sure, because starvation is always an option.
Not really, the other choice would most likely be work in farms in the countryside in the heat.
So it's OK to exploit people, as long as you can rationalize it?
What is your alternative? Like I said, changes in labor laws have to come from within the country. When labor conditions were rough in the USA, it wasn't Britain who came along and changed them for us, we did it ourselves. You're also ignoring the entire history behind the Industrial Revolution and the economic realities of our world.
Fuck you, you insensitive jackass. I hope you take your fucking libertardian teabagging bullshit straight to hell.
Ethics? What is more ethical, moving your operation to the US/EU or taking away hundreds of thousands of jobs from those Chinese people just because YOU in your soft comfy couch wouldn't want to work in those conditions.
They are paid what the market will bear in that region, these people choose to work there for a reason, they aren't forced to. In fact it's a very good thing because it provides jobs and income to people who would otherwise have none. The USA and Britain have gone through this same period of the industrial revolution. A change in labor laws or working conditions can not be forced upon them, it must come from within China by the Chinese people themselves.
They should probably get paid a little more, but then again you have the whole tech/geek culture which scrutinizes any product that costs more then the competition.
Imagine if the iPad were made in the USA instead of China, people complaining about the price today would be having a shitfest if it was made here.
iPad gets 10 hours of battery life and Anandtech did a test showing it getting 13.6 hours of battery life playing Video in a loop.
Problem with the Adam is that it won't be released for another 6 months at best and the fact that it's a small time Indian company. They won't be getting the content producers lining up for them like Apple has, Google might have that kind of clout however.
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That's amusing, because Stevens was put in the court by a republican president.
Goodbye Internet, it was nice knowing you.
Hello Web 3.0.
Who exactly might you be beakerMEEP? Mind informing me of your name/address/ip number?
Newsflash, the universe doesn't care.
Why should they allow you to install any app you want?
From what I've seen though, as those areas of China become more well developed, the jobs which provide rough working conditions tend to get pushed further inland. Personally, I believe that the labor market in China is improving at a very fast pace and will eventually be corrected by the empowered Chinese middle class.
My point then should have been that the labor market in China might not be of the best conditions at the moment, but it is rapidly improving. In the coastal regions the market is actually very well developed and approaching Western standards.
Riiiiight.
Riiiiight.
Well it is the People's Republic of China afterall.
Let me just let out one big ROFLMAO. You sound like a really nice person.
Like I said in my first post, the wages they receive is indicative of the local regional labor market.
I agree that Free Trade is not free, but that's another argument.
15 year olds are not children.
It most likely would be cheaper in the long run, but theres your problem, it would require a large upfront investment to get the process down.
I agree. Indirectly this also effects battery life by a large amount since a power heavy processor like the Atom requires considerably more battery power and from that weight. iPad is too heavy as is! I tend to take my iPad out of its case when reading at night because the case adds a small but noticeable amount of weight.
Yes, well it also mentions that they might possibly do an architecture switch in the near future. This could be to a 32nm Atom based chip next year or who knows what. By forcing these requirements, they make the process of changing architectures seamless to the users and easy for the developers.
The coastline of China is much more developed then the rest of the nation and has a higher standard of living.
Which is why there is nothing imo wrong with sending work to China.
Not really, the other choice would most likely be work in farms in the countryside in the heat.
What is your alternative? Like I said, changes in labor laws have to come from within the country. When labor conditions were rough in the USA, it wasn't Britain who came along and changed them for us, we did it ourselves. You're also ignoring the entire history behind the Industrial Revolution and the economic realities of our world.
Thanks, I'll take a mental note of that.
Yes, aka the Invisible hand of the market.
In China you can eat a good meal for $0.50
In America you can barely afford a Candy Bar for $0.50
The opposite is also true, our consumerist society cares most about cost which is what drives these companies to move to places like China.
Ethics? What is more ethical, moving your operation to the US/EU or taking away hundreds of thousands of jobs from those Chinese people just because YOU in your soft comfy couch wouldn't want to work in those conditions.
They are paid what the market will bear in that region, these people choose to work there for a reason, they aren't forced to. In fact it's a very good thing because it provides jobs and income to people who would otherwise have none. The USA and Britain have gone through this same period of the industrial revolution. A change in labor laws or working conditions can not be forced upon them, it must come from within China by the Chinese people themselves.
They should probably get paid a little more, but then again you have the whole tech/geek culture which scrutinizes any product that costs more then the competition.
Imagine if the iPad were made in the USA instead of China, people complaining about the price today would be having a shitfest if it was made here.
If aliens exist but we never contact them, do they really exist?
You can blame that on global warming.
iPad gets 10 hours of battery life and Anandtech did a test showing it getting 13.6 hours of battery life playing Video in a loop.
Problem with the Adam is that it won't be released for another 6 months at best and the fact that it's a small time Indian company. They won't be getting the content producers lining up for them like Apple has, Google might have that kind of clout however.
The iPad is definetly too heavy, I have one, it gets tiring... Need to work out my wrists more, brb porn calls.
Uhuh.
Really? You're bringing up what's most likely a 6 year old post on the Pentium 4 to try to explain pipelines to me? Hah!
Yes, Intel chips are the sux0r and IBMs Power processors were waaay faster because they had less Ghz so they obviously did more with those Ghz!
A few things, they might want to run stuff other then Adobe's Creative suite too yah know.
Audio under Linux is a sham, good luck finding creative musicians who would use Linux for serious work, there aren't many.
True graphics designers wouldn't be caught dead under Linux, it looks too "ugly" Especially the fonts.