Well they probablly do because they had to get a court order in the first place.
Not to mention, you don't hear about the FBI doing this to every single website out there, something serious must have been going on or else the FBI would not have asked for the log files. (Yes I do know what they are requesting)
They didn't shut down his site. They got a court order so that they could get Logs of people whom the FBI percieved as a big threat. They could care less about this guy's Anarchist website, what they care about is two people who posted something in the actual site. Not to mention, you would think the FBI would be doing this to every single site out there that spoke badly about the government? No, they are most likely singling out this site because there was cause for real concern.
Also, would it suprise you to know that the rest of the world had almost the same exacting feelings towards the USA in the 60/70s? during the time of the vietnam war?
Yeah, they yelled about censorship! Stubborn people! Evil US Imperialism!
Guess who saved their ass from the Soviets, or umm the war that the french started that escalated into the Vietnam war. Or maybe about the civil rights movements that was occuring during that time? Ohh and the fact that Newsreporting during the Vietnam war changed US Public opinion of the war which effectively ended it(the US were winning militarily).
Yep during that time they thought about the US the same exact way.
Your trying to separate America from the people who actually live there. It's not something you can do. And the US isn't doing that bad of a job, people are sensationalizing everything to the point where they fail to see logic and only spout emotions and buzzwords.
That's great Mr. Castro, but this is the USA. National Security involves umm releasing militiary secrets, location of spies in foreign countries, planning on hijacking four airplanes and attacking buildings with them. You know, stuff that actually harms people.
Dynamic IP won't protect you. They also have the time and date when that IP was used.
Also, yeah definetly, we US citizens are cowering from the fear of the FBI coming to get us. Every day we live wondering "Will the FBI come and knock on our doors tomorrow and take us to room 101?"
Ohh and don't be so happy that you live in Canada, if American did turn into the fascist state that many of you anti-americans are saying it is, Canada would be one of the first countires to be umm annexed. Then comes Europe... muhahah we merikans shall conquer the world, praise the holy divine king Bush chosen by god himself!!
Really though, it's too bad many foriegners view the US in such bad light, it's not a bad country at all, and for the most part it's filled with very good people.
Yes you are, but your also not allowed to threaten someone's elses life or put national security at risk. The admin of the site didn't do it, someone else on his forum posted some crazy stuff I gather and a little warning light at the FBI went off.
"Yep. They'd have to be re-trained. But salaries wouldn't need to go up. It takes less time to manage Linux systems than it does to manage Windows systems."
I stopped reading there.
Do you REALLY think linux is easier to manage then Windows, because for some reason I don't think it is at all. Especially considering all the constant pains in the ass I have been having with it(OHH BUT ITS EASIER TO MANAGE#%@#%!@#) How about the fact that my friends who have been using linux for at least 4 years still have many problems with their systems.
My windowsxp box, 1 year no viruses, no spyware, only problem I had was getting Independence-War1 working on my XP box. Everything else I use for school works perfectly, no fiddling needed.
Yes we are owned by the corporations! I even have my own little Haliburton ID tag incase they ever need to take me in and send me to gauntanamo like all the other US folks they are doing that too. Ohh man we live in such a censored country where we can't make Hate sites because the "government" deems it bad. And our politicians that WE vote for are SOO CORRUPT!!! because you know, we voted for them! Yeah, how about you go live in America next time and stop speaking from your stupid ideologies and actually see America for what it is.
Also, sure the desert might look like the moon, but so does mars. Are you going to go ahead and believe theories that say that we never landed probes on mars? I think not.
" What shuttle 'improvements' will benefit the CEV, which is a simple capsule on top of an expendable commercial launcher? "
Ohh you seem to have the designs on hand for the CEV which hasn't even been designed yet? Hey I want in on the time machine too!!!!
" No, that's what you _want_. What you get is likely to be something completely different... if nothing else, it almost certainly won't have wings (and if NASA build it, odds are it won't meet any of your goals)."
Like I said, gimme your time machine! NASA is going to build the best ship that they can possibly build, if it means adding wings to it so that it can manuever better in the atmosphere of earth/mars then so be it. And Odds are, if NASA builds it, it will meet all goals and exceed them. Contrary to what you might think, NASA is not run by a bunch of idiots. They don't go around shouting "Hey wings might look cool lets add them without weighing the risks/benefits!" Or maybe they should listen to you right? Yeah maybe you should run the space program since you seem to know more then all the rocket scientists and engineers working at NASA.
"Other than the lower gravity much about the moon could be simulated here on Earth, no??"
Umm no? Unless you know of some way to control gravity...
"Sure the coolness factor would be great, but it would be quite a while off as they would have to design something to get them there or fly the same stuff they used back in the 70's."
They are, its called getting to the moon by 2020, not tomorrow. They are working on the Crew Exploration Vehicle to get to the moon and also will be working on designs for a base and for shield from cosmic/solar rays.
"Don't many people believe that the original moon landing video was faked as the location looks exactly like the desert near Area 51?" No, the Moon landings were NOT faked... It's just like those conspiracy theories that the US government started 9/11 and that the US has a tsunami generator which caused the Tsunami in december.
how about not every one in this country desires to be a grammar/spelling nazi when they grow up. I am getting my masters in Nuclear Physics, so go shove that grammar up your ass.
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Yeah most of europe also has experience doing that kind of stuff (Red Brigade killing Aldo Moro, etc...)
so then you think you could comment on those two posters from the site who the FBI is interested in?
Also, you draw the line when a real and serious threat is made that can threaten the lives of american citizens.
omg its those damned canadians who are making the US look so bad.
Quick it's a Canadian, get him!
Well they probablly do because they had to get a court order in the first place.
Not to mention, you don't hear about the FBI doing this to every single website out there, something serious must have been going on or else the FBI would not have asked for the log files. (Yes I do know what they are requesting)
RTFA!!
They didn't shut down his site. They got a court order so that they could get Logs of people whom the FBI percieved as a big threat. They could care less about this guy's Anarchist website, what they care about is two people who posted something in the actual site. Not to mention, you would think the FBI would be doing this to every single site out there that spoke badly about the government? No, they are most likely singling out this site because there was cause for real concern.
Also, would it suprise you to know that the rest of the world had almost the same exacting feelings towards the USA in the 60/70s? during the time of the vietnam war?
Yeah, they yelled about censorship! Stubborn people! Evil US Imperialism!
Guess who saved their ass from the Soviets, or umm the war that the french started that escalated into the Vietnam war. Or maybe about the civil rights movements that was occuring during that time? Ohh and the fact that Newsreporting during the Vietnam war changed US Public opinion of the war which effectively ended it(the US were winning militarily).
Yep during that time they thought about the US the same exact way.
Your trying to separate America from the people who actually live there. It's not something you can do. And the US isn't doing that bad of a job, people are sensationalizing everything to the point where they fail to see logic and only spout emotions and buzzwords.
Read this
http://www.hudsonreview.com/BawerSp04.html
That's great Mr. Castro, but this is the USA. National Security involves umm releasing militiary secrets, location of spies in foreign countries, planning on hijacking four airplanes and attacking buildings with them. You know, stuff that actually harms people.
Dynamic IP won't protect you. They also have the time and date when that IP was used.
Also, yeah definetly, we US citizens are cowering from the fear of the FBI coming to get us. Every day we live wondering "Will the FBI come and knock on our doors tomorrow and take us to room 101?"
Ohh and don't be so happy that you live in Canada, if American did turn into the fascist state that many of you anti-americans are saying it is, Canada would be one of the first countires to be umm annexed. Then comes Europe... muhahah we merikans shall conquer the world, praise the holy divine king Bush chosen by god himself!!
Really though, it's too bad many foriegners view the US in such bad light, it's not a bad country at all, and for the most part it's filled with very good people.
Yes you are, but your also not allowed to threaten someone's elses life or put national security at risk. The admin of the site didn't do it, someone else on his forum posted some crazy stuff I gather and a little warning light at the FBI went off.
yes of course.... We live in a complete dsytopia these days...
servers im not going to argue against because FOSS and linux has a very strong market there, im talking about desktops.
yeah maybe like how socialism/communism never worked anywhere... Maybe just maybe...
and you have been trampled on by your own politicians so much that you have forgotten about it(Europe)
Or maybe you are forcing yourselves to forget about it so that your politicians can do it all over again(Hate speech laws?!)
"Yep. They'd have to be re-trained. But salaries wouldn't need to go up. It takes less time to manage Linux systems than it does to manage Windows systems."
I stopped reading there.
Do you REALLY think linux is easier to manage then Windows, because for some reason I don't think it is at all. Especially considering all the constant pains in the ass I have been having with it(OHH BUT ITS EASIER TO MANAGE#%@#%!@#) How about the fact that my friends who have been using linux for at least 4 years still have many problems with their systems.
My windowsxp box, 1 year no viruses, no spyware, only problem I had was getting Independence-War1 working on my XP box. Everything else I use for school works perfectly, no fiddling needed.
Although I do like my OS X box even more =)
Yes we are owned by the corporations! I even have my own little Haliburton ID tag incase they ever need to take me in and send me to gauntanamo like all the other US folks they are doing that too. Ohh man we live in such a censored country where we can't make Hate sites because the "government" deems it bad. And our politicians that WE vote for are SOO CORRUPT!!! because you know, we voted for them! Yeah, how about you go live in America next time and stop speaking from your stupid ideologies and actually see America for what it is.
Yeah which is why the US military and many branches of the US government have many FOSS projects.
Go troll somewhere else.
And this research will lead to FTL travel because the damned photons won't go faster then c!!
ok sorry for misreading your post.
Also, sure the desert might look like the moon, but so does mars. Are you going to go ahead and believe theories that say that we never landed probes on mars? I think not.
how about leaving the science to the scientists and not some trolls on slashdot?
mkay, thanks!
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What shuttle 'improvements' will benefit the CEV, which is a simple capsule on top of an expendable commercial launcher?
"
Ohh you seem to have the designs on hand for the CEV which hasn't even been designed yet? Hey I want in on the time machine too!!!!
"
No, that's what you _want_. What you get is likely to be something completely different... if nothing else, it almost certainly won't have wings (and if NASA build it, odds are it won't meet any of your goals)."
Like I said, gimme your time machine! NASA is going to build the best ship that they can possibly build, if it means adding wings to it so that it can manuever better in the atmosphere of earth/mars then so be it. And Odds are, if NASA builds it, it will meet all goals and exceed them. Contrary to what you might think, NASA is not run by a bunch of idiots. They don't go around shouting "Hey wings might look cool lets add them without weighing the risks/benefits!" Or maybe they should listen to you right? Yeah maybe you should run the space program since you seem to know more then all the rocket scientists and engineers working at NASA.
Wow what an ignorant...
"Other than the lower gravity much about the moon could be simulated here on Earth, no??"
Umm no? Unless you know of some way to control gravity...
"Sure the coolness factor would be great, but it would be quite a while off as they would have to design something to get them there or fly the same stuff they used back in the 70's."
They are, its called getting to the moon by 2020, not tomorrow. They are working on the Crew Exploration Vehicle to get to the moon and also will be working on designs for a base and for shield from cosmic/solar rays.
"Don't many people believe that the original moon landing video was faked as the location looks exactly like the desert near Area 51?"
No, the Moon landings were NOT faked... It's just like those conspiracy theories that the US government started 9/11 and that the US has a tsunami generator which caused the Tsunami in december.
meanwhile Russians live in poverty.
Yes and you are also give those future generations a chance to make it big in space. And get filthy rich while they are at it.
how about not every one in this country desires to be a grammar/spelling nazi when they grow up. I am getting my masters in Nuclear Physics, so go shove that grammar up your ass.