Your "overwhelming and blatantly obvious" evidence is smelling a city and looking at melting ice? You compare the opposing views to flat earthers! You provide no scientific proof! You call skeptics "crazed unscientific nut-jobs". Your proof that it is anthropogenic is to look at a city to view the smog and smell it compared to the country air? You then switch to talking about pollution and then say its irrelevant that we are causing GW or not... Then blame energy companies and the republicans? You talk about consensus... when there is no such thing. Then pull statistics out of your ass (50% of people deny well accepted science????)
How the hell you could have been modded insightful is beyond me.
You are the Glen Beck of the green movement. Get of of this important discussion until you have something worthwhile to say.
I'm not aware of Toyota not respecting warranty on engine problems. Can you please post a link? (I honestly didn't know about that.)
Pedals dont just "turn on", it sticks, in 0.0001% chance probability.
BTW, the U.S. DOJ didint do shit to Toyota, its the DOT (Department of Transportation).
There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING different here than the dozens of recalls EACH, that FORD, GM and Chrysler (as well as others) do every single year.
Hell, in October FORD recalled 4.5 million cars because they could catch FIRE. (Remind you of the Pinto????@?!??!?!)
These kinds of recalls, and delay tactics until its absolutely necessary (its a numbers game) are exactly the way the whole industry has been functioning for 40 years.
Why smear Toyota all of a sudden? I explained that in my post above.
Wow, you really do believe everything the media says.
Toyota is in NO way different than GM, Ford, Chrysler, VW, etc...
Only difference is, the USA is on a smear campaign against Toyota and all import vehicles.
Why? Toyota is the biggest fish in the pond, the the other big fish want some room to grow. They are knocking Toyota down a peg.
Whats happening with Toyota and the recalls they are having are no different then the dozens of recalls GM, Chrysler and Ford EACH have every single year.
Recalls are about numbers. They always have been, they always will be. And Detroit has been an expert at that game for the past 50 years.
The average Joe is 10 times more educated than 300 years ago and will use that education when forming his opinion. Allowing that person to read a dictionary, research terms, definitions, subjects, etc... allows for a TRUE jury of his peers.
Throwing them in there blind is the stoopidest shit every. Its about the theater of the court room, and a person can be thrown in jail because of the incompetence of the defense or the other way around (someone can walk because the prosecution was incompetent).
If the jury is supposed to be the decider, then allow them to decide.
Again, we are in 2010, time to stop this fucking gaming of this system bullshit.
Crime inst at an all time high, laws are. Which in turn makes people into criminals. (drug possession anyone?) Prison should be a deterrent I agree and somewhat of a punishment. However the main goal should be rehabilitation.
Take a close look at the incarceration programs in Scandinavian countries. Their results are astounding. Norway has a high reintegration success rate even with violent crime offenders.
Rehabilitation and re-integration.
Thing is, people don't like to think that its society's responsibility in America because of the survival of the fittest, dog eats dog, business is business mentality you like to pretend you have.
If prisoners arent allowed to have fun, then just lock them into a 3x3 dark, damp cell (the HOLE) for their whole prison sentence, with a cot in the corner and a hole to shit in. Then you'll see how well they re-integrate and contribute to society.
They wont be paying back their debt, society is robbing itself by not investing in them. Might as well just kill them all for petty crimes.
"You're like people who say it was a waste of money to build earthquake-resistant buildings because we didn't have an earthquake. Or to build flood-resistant levies because we didn't have a flood."
Stop your fear mongering. Your examples are hyperbole and ridiculous.
In your own words, influenza kills 50,000 a year in the U.S. The current worldwide number of deaths for H!N! is just over 14,000.
Thats no where near epidemic proportions and as for pandemic... we'll it did happen all over the world, but by the very definition of pandemic it MUST be an epidemic first.
An epidemic has a higher incidence rate than normal. This has not been proven or demonstrated in comparison to standard seasonal flu.
8 Months ago (May 2009) and the article keeps repeating "MAY cause a cytokine storm".
I think something a little more recent is required. We are in January 2010. The supposed outbreak was 2-3 months ago. May 2009 was the beginning of the fear mongering. I wouldn't trust publications of that time with suppositions about the "potential" future outbreak.
I propose a tax on the music industry. Tax EVERYTHING they do.
The tax is for using my ears.
They use me everywhere I go. I cant escape it. - Get into a car... they use my ears. - Walk into a mall, they use my ears. - At the work place, they use my ears. - At someones house, they use my ears. - Stop for some gas, in the gas station... they are using my ears. - Watch tv, during ads... the music industry is using my ears. - During a tv show, music is played... they are abusing my ears. - Computer or console games play music... which abuses my ears. - Embedded in websites... are songs... which abuses my ears.
For years, they have been using a vital resource and abusing it without my consent. I never asked for them to use it, I never bought any of their content, I dont care for any of their music. But they abuse me anyways.
So I say, we tax the music industry and pay me. If you file a formal complaint to the Departement of Musical Abuse (DOMA), then you can get your faire share also.
However, they have to cease and desist all musical playing as well as pay the tax.
We keep hearing of these thousands of peer reviewed papers in thousands of journals, but all we get is people pointing to the same half dozen papers written by 1 or 2 pseudo scientists and those papers use data and results from about another half dozen scattered supposed scientific models, experiments and theories, to build their own theories.
But all it is, is a half dozen self serving papers with an answer looking for a theory.
So I ask you again.
Please point us to those thousands of journals and papers, because, saying they exist, does not make it reality.
- They tasered him 5 times, 4 after he was already on the ground with a knee in his neck holding him down. - About the translators: source please. That is an obvious lie, else the translator would have been there the WHOLE time.
I'm sorry, but look at the profit margin for these carriers. I'm not against profit, but don't come crying that its expensive to run. It is VERY OBVIOUSLY extremely profitable and there is LOTS of room to wiggle.
Though I think the idea of using Biometrics in a school is utterly rediculous this is how these things usually work.
1. Its called Mustering.
2. You need to setup an Anti-Passback location (Entrances and exits).
3. You register who comes in and out based of credentials (keypad, biometrics, smartcards, proximity cards etc...)
4. When an emergency occurs (fire alarm, bomb scare, you name it) that system (fire panel, etc...) automaticly triggers an input on the access control system which tells the server to start printing and e-mailing reports every few minutes for X period of time.
5. These reports can be printed to multiple printers accross a network (offsite too)and sent in CSV format to Blackberry's, smartphone etc...
Reports contains the list of names in the facility and every few minutes (configurable) you get a new report showing if people are still left and who.
Seriously
This is slashdot and people are wondering WHO is going to go MANUALY print out paper reports and start handing them out in times of emergency?
They let anyone in here dont they?:)
US emergency medicine guidelines, for example, are extremely aggressive and notorious for over investigating.
Good God I know this part first hand. I went to the ER because I had chest pain in my left side. I'm young, so I thought heart problems were highly unlikely but better safe than sorry. The doctor that saw me surmised that it was probably an irritated GI tract, which I know that I have problems with, and was nothing serious. Then he proceeded to order blood tests, CT scans, and others. I said screw that and refused treatment. A nap did just fine to make the problem pass. Again, some evidence suggests that CT scans may do more harm than good, and really should only be used when necessary. Diagnosing constipation is hardly a proper use for a CT scan and racking me up a couple thousand dollars in medical expenses.
A year and a half ago, I went in for upper left SHARP back pains and left arm throbbing after spending a week in Vegas working and partying hard and on my return trip, collapsing in the woods while taking a slow quiet walk.
Doctor examined me and chalked it up to a burnout or being overly tired. I do have a history of back problems and he felt it was just exasperated by being worn out.
I'm given meds for my back and told to see a physio or chiro.
A year down the road, I have a heart attack, 2 angioplasties and 2 stints. 80% blockage in 2 major arteries.
I had no chest pain symptoms because the blocked arteries where in the back of my heart apparently.
I don't blame anyone specificaly, but being in Canada they don't do unnecessary blood tests for cholesterol etc... Especially since I'm 31.
Im a little overweight and smoked. I'm not FAT, but still I could be in better shape.
Regardless, the evidence didn't fit.
But I came so close to dying its not even funny. 1 blood test would have shown my elevated cholesterol and probably helped nip this in the bud.
You have to know that what you propose just isnt possible.
Change it? Deal with it?
The term civil disobedience exists for a reason.
It was coined, by an American, for this reason, to resist to unfair laws.
Do you honestly think, if you decided to do something against the law and started trying to lobby against it, that you would actually get anywhere? Be serious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
The way you describe it, it still could be a proximity "reader" with active card. Ive seen people use HID embedded readers wired into huge human size entrance systems.
Basically the reader can be wired into any size antenna, the size of the cooper ring will determine the read range. I wonder how much power a ring that size would draw, most likely 5+ amps. Also... I wonder if Id go through it with a Tin foil jack strap... kinda makes me worry about the family jewels.:)
You are plain ignorant.
Driving stick is better in every way.
Its a better driving experience and gives you more control.
Only reason I see, not to drive stick is if your a lazy bastard or you have a left leg injury or problem.
I do admit, clutching in and out can be painful or difficult if you have a left leg injury.
Your "overwhelming and blatantly obvious" evidence is smelling a city and looking at melting ice?
You compare the opposing views to flat earthers!
You provide no scientific proof!
You call skeptics "crazed unscientific nut-jobs".
Your proof that it is anthropogenic is to look at a city to view the smog and smell it compared to the country air?
You then switch to talking about pollution and then say its irrelevant that we are causing GW or not...
Then blame energy companies and the republicans?
You talk about consensus... when there is no such thing.
Then pull statistics out of your ass (50% of people deny well accepted science????)
How the hell you could have been modded insightful is beyond me.
You are the Glen Beck of the green movement. Get of of this important discussion until you have something worthwhile to say.
I'm not aware of Toyota not respecting warranty on engine problems. Can you please post a link? (I honestly didn't know about that.)
Pedals dont just "turn on", it sticks, in 0.0001% chance probability.
BTW, the U.S. DOJ didint do shit to Toyota, its the DOT (Department of Transportation).
There is NOTHING and I mean NOTHING different here than the dozens of recalls EACH, that FORD, GM and Chrysler (as well as others) do every single year.
Hell, in October FORD recalled 4.5 million cars because they could catch FIRE. (Remind you of the Pinto????@?!??!?!)
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/business/ford-recall-2009-affects-45-million-vehicles_100260633.html
These kinds of recalls, and delay tactics until its absolutely necessary (its a numbers game) are exactly the way the whole industry has been functioning for 40 years.
Why smear Toyota all of a sudden?
I explained that in my post above.
Wow, you really do believe everything the media says.
Toyota is in NO way different than GM, Ford, Chrysler, VW, etc...
Only difference is, the USA is on a smear campaign against Toyota and all import vehicles.
Why? Toyota is the biggest fish in the pond, the the other big fish want some room to grow.
They are knocking Toyota down a peg.
Whats happening with Toyota and the recalls they are having are no different then the dozens of recalls GM, Chrysler and Ford EACH have every single year.
Recalls are about numbers. They always have been, they always will be. And Detroit has been an expert at that game for the past 50 years.
The media just doesnt want to remember that.
Please do some research before making points that aren't based on fact.
Carbon Dioxide concentration is not found to be hazardous if below 10 000ppm over a 8hour period and if under 30 000ppm over a 15min period.
What that means is, before CO2 can have any effect on ANYONES health it would have to be 26 times higher than current 390ppm levels.
CO2 is NOT a poison and it is not a problem either.
I agree, that there is an extreme in the other direction we dont want to go too.
But we at least both agree, the system isnt perfect.
I'm not saying I have the answer, but I am saying something needs to change.
The fact that the skill of the lawyers weighs so heavily on how high your chances of winning or loosing are, should be a concern, but somehow it isnt.
How about, we live in 2010.
The average Joe is 10 times more educated than 300 years ago and will use that education when forming his opinion.
Allowing that person to read a dictionary, research terms, definitions, subjects, etc... allows for a TRUE jury of his peers.
Throwing them in there blind is the stoopidest shit every. Its about the theater of the court room, and a person can be thrown in jail because of the incompetence of the defense or the other way around (someone can walk because the prosecution was incompetent).
If the jury is supposed to be the decider, then allow them to decide.
Again, we are in 2010, time to stop this fucking gaming of this system bullshit.
Thats all nice when you have no life.
But I have a wife and a little girl and live in an area where it goes down to -20 for 3 months.
Its easy to say reduce your energy consumption, but the reality is quite different.
The thing is you have a problem in America.
Crime inst at an all time high, laws are.
Which in turn makes people into criminals. (drug possession anyone?)
Prison should be a deterrent I agree and somewhat of a punishment.
However the main goal should be rehabilitation.
Take a close look at the incarceration programs in Scandinavian countries.
Their results are astounding. Norway has a high reintegration success rate even with violent crime offenders.
Rehabilitation and re-integration.
Thing is, people don't like to think that its society's responsibility in America because of the survival of the fittest, dog eats dog, business is business mentality you like to pretend you have.
If prisoners arent allowed to have fun, then just lock them into a 3x3 dark, damp cell (the HOLE) for their whole prison sentence, with a cot in the corner and a hole to shit in. Then you'll see how well they re-integrate and contribute to society.
They wont be paying back their debt, society is robbing itself by not investing in them. Might as well just kill them all for petty crimes.
"You're like people who say it was a waste of money to build earthquake-resistant buildings because we didn't have an earthquake. Or to build flood-resistant levies because we didn't have a flood."
Stop your fear mongering. Your examples are hyperbole and ridiculous.
In your own words, influenza kills 50,000 a year in the U.S. The current worldwide number of deaths for H!N! is just over 14,000.
Thats no where near epidemic proportions and as for pandemic... we'll it did happen all over the world, but by the very definition of pandemic it MUST be an epidemic first.
An epidemic has a higher incidence rate than normal. This has not been proven or demonstrated in comparison to standard seasonal flu.
8 Months ago (May 2009) and the article keeps repeating "MAY cause a cytokine storm".
I think something a little more recent is required. We are in January 2010. The supposed outbreak was 2-3 months ago.
May 2009 was the beginning of the fear mongering. I wouldn't trust publications of that time with suppositions about the "potential" future outbreak.
Thats what they where saying on the news (that it killed healthy people more).
Now I want the numbers. Its almost over, so start compiling.
Give us the statistics and all the numbers on actual cases and profile of those to whom it was fatal.
I dont buy it.
I propose a tax on the music industry.
Tax EVERYTHING they do.
The tax is for using my ears.
They use me everywhere I go. I cant escape it.
- Get into a car... they use my ears.
- Walk into a mall, they use my ears.
- At the work place, they use my ears.
- At someones house, they use my ears.
- Stop for some gas, in the gas station... they are using my ears.
- Watch tv, during ads... the music industry is using my ears.
- During a tv show, music is played... they are abusing my ears.
- Computer or console games play music... which abuses my ears.
- Embedded in websites... are songs... which abuses my ears.
For years, they have been using a vital resource and abusing it without my consent.
I never asked for them to use it, I never bought any of their content, I dont care for any of their music.
But they abuse me anyways.
So I say, we tax the music industry and pay me. If you file a formal complaint to the Departement of Musical Abuse (DOMA), then you can get your faire share also.
However, they have to cease and desist all musical playing as well as pay the tax.
You must have no idea how idiotic you sound.
The head of the IPCC is an economist.
But it seems he is qualified to talk climatology...
Point to them.
All... thousands of them.
We keep hearing of these thousands of peer reviewed papers in thousands of journals, but all we get is people pointing to the same half dozen papers written by 1 or 2 pseudo scientists and those papers use data and results from about another half dozen scattered supposed scientific models, experiments and theories, to build their own theories.
But all it is, is a half dozen self serving papers with an answer looking for a theory.
So I ask you again.
Please point us to those thousands of journals and papers, because, saying they exist, does not make it reality.
Its ok to skip over things like:
- They tasered him 5 times, 4 after he was already on the ground with a knee in his neck holding him down.
- About the translators: source please. That is an obvious lie, else the translator would have been there the WHOLE time.
How about parents becoming responsible for monitoring their children.
What a thought!!! This is a thought crime, pure and simple.
Big brother, big sister programs. Neighbour, family friend, uncle or aunt, baby sitter/nanny, teacher, tutor, etc...
There are lots of exceptions to your description, which I hope they made in this law. (though I wish they didint create this law at all)
I'm sorry, but look at the profit margin for these carriers.
I'm not against profit, but don't come crying that its expensive to run.
It is VERY OBVIOUSLY extremely profitable and there is LOTS of room to wiggle.
I think the best option is to call them. Ask to speak to a supervisor.
Tell them over the phone, you opt OUT and you want them to change any records necessary to make sure you are opted out.
Ask them if they are NOT recording this they SHOULD be recording as you are recording it as well.
Tell them if they do not opt you out immediately that you will sue them in court and it wont be pretty.
Then... hope to god they make a mistake :)
Im from Canada and Im usually not a litigious person. But these corporate bloodsucking companies need to get their ass handed to them.
Though I think the idea of using Biometrics in a school is utterly rediculous this is how these things usually work. 1. Its called Mustering. 2. You need to setup an Anti-Passback location (Entrances and exits). 3. You register who comes in and out based of credentials (keypad, biometrics, smartcards, proximity cards etc...) 4. When an emergency occurs (fire alarm, bomb scare, you name it) that system (fire panel, etc...) automaticly triggers an input on the access control system which tells the server to start printing and e-mailing reports every few minutes for X period of time. 5. These reports can be printed to multiple printers accross a network (offsite too)and sent in CSV format to Blackberry's, smartphone etc... Reports contains the list of names in the facility and every few minutes (configurable) you get a new report showing if people are still left and who. Seriously This is slashdot and people are wondering WHO is going to go MANUALY print out paper reports and start handing them out in times of emergency? They let anyone in here dont they? :)
US emergency medicine guidelines, for example, are extremely aggressive and notorious for over investigating.
Good God I know this part first hand. I went to the ER because I had chest pain in my left side. I'm young, so I thought heart problems were highly unlikely but better safe than sorry. The doctor that saw me surmised that it was probably an irritated GI tract, which I know that I have problems with, and was nothing serious. Then he proceeded to order blood tests, CT scans, and others. I said screw that and refused treatment. A nap did just fine to make the problem pass. Again, some evidence suggests that CT scans may do more harm than good, and really should only be used when necessary. Diagnosing constipation is hardly a proper use for a CT scan and racking me up a couple thousand dollars in medical expenses.
A year and a half ago, I went in for upper left SHARP back pains and left arm throbbing after spending a week in Vegas working and partying hard and on my return trip, collapsing in the woods while taking a slow quiet walk. Doctor examined me and chalked it up to a burnout or being overly tired. I do have a history of back problems and he felt it was just exasperated by being worn out. I'm given meds for my back and told to see a physio or chiro. A year down the road, I have a heart attack, 2 angioplasties and 2 stints. 80% blockage in 2 major arteries. I had no chest pain symptoms because the blocked arteries where in the back of my heart apparently. I don't blame anyone specificaly, but being in Canada they don't do unnecessary blood tests for cholesterol etc... Especially since I'm 31. Im a little overweight and smoked. I'm not FAT, but still I could be in better shape. Regardless, the evidence didn't fit. But I came so close to dying its not even funny. 1 blood test would have shown my elevated cholesterol and probably helped nip this in the bud.
You have to know that what you propose just isnt possible. Change it? Deal with it? The term civil disobedience exists for a reason. It was coined, by an American, for this reason, to resist to unfair laws. Do you honestly think, if you decided to do something against the law and started trying to lobby against it, that you would actually get anywhere? Be serious. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
Please detail these pro's you are talking about.
We are all very interested, because I have not heard ONE single pro to having a unified ID system.
No problem at all.
:)
The way you describe it, it still could be a proximity "reader" with active card.
Ive seen people use HID embedded readers wired into huge human size entrance systems.
Basically the reader can be wired into any size antenna, the size of the cooper ring will determine the read range.
I wonder how much power a ring that size would draw, most likely 5+ amps.
Also... I wonder if Id go through it with a Tin foil jack strap... kinda makes me worry about the family jewels.