I wanna say that Linux/KDE would do the trick, but Netscape is waaaaay too crash-prone.
Also, Linux has its own fair share of inconsistencies. Think about how many different kinds of file/directory selector dialogs there are. (KDE/GTK/GNOME/homegrown X/Motif) That drives me nuts, and is probably enough in itself to confuse Gramps or any other new computer user.
And, X does freeze up from time to time, although not as much as Win98 or MacOS.
My ease-of-use recommendations:
1. iMac/WebTV/BeOS/as-yet-unknown appliance 2. Windows
Many people posting to this thread have said "this guy..." in reference to the author of the story.
The byline says "By Robin Lloyd", which could be either a guy or a woman. Not that it's relevant to the story, but it kind of bugs me to see assumptions about gender like that.
Just like there are plenty of male nurses, I'm sure there are also plenty of female tech journalists who have problems installing really, really old versions of OpenLinux:)
OK, you may now flame me for being nitpicky and go back to debating the finer points of autoprobing vs. editing init files with vi. I personally am going to sleep now.
OS X Consumer, a.k.a. Mac OS X a.k.a. OS X Client is very much MacOS to the core, not BSD. It will offer pre-emptive multitasking, protected memory, and lots of overdue simplification of the MacOS API. It should very much rock, and promises to be very stable. Last I heard it was due Q4 1999 or Q1 2000. Apple has been really tight-lipped since Jobs came back, so we probably won't know until right before it ships. MacOS X Server is the one that's BSD-based.
Um, so what's a brother gotta do to get q3test running with a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP?
I did download Mesa at one point, and glx, but then I gave up when it wanted me to replace some libraries and recompile X. It was, and still is, a bit over my head, and struck me as the type of thing I would screw up, in the process permanently hosing my X Window System.
I think Mozilla is going to eat IE's lunch because:
a) Because of the adherence to standards, many (most?) web designers will immediately start using it as their reference browser for laying out pages. Therefore, pages will look 'best when viewed with Mozilla', so naturally people will want to run it.
b) One of the things holding back the growth of Linux has been the lack of a good web browser. Communicator 4.6 is a valiant effort, but does not compare to IE5 under NT. Communicator crashes *way* too much, and is behind the times when it comes to modern standards support. It is barely useable for me, and that's only because I know how to 'ps aux | grep netscape', 'kill ' and 'rm -f ~/.netscape/.lock' Imagine the average office schmuck doing that.
Mozilla promises to be better in every way than IE5, which should propel the growth of both Linux and Mozilla.
c) Because it is open source, the rendering engine is bound to end up embedded in just about everything... network appliances, Linux GUIs, etc. In addition to being open source, it's also much more lightweight than IE, making it attractive for these environments.
Actually, I was wondering if it would be possible to run Demon Stalkers in an C64 emulator for the Amiga, running under AmigaDOS, running under a Windows-based Amiga emulator, running under WINE, running under Debian, running in VMWare, running in Mandrake, on my old 386SX/16 with coffee stains on the keyboard.
Would you want to? On a log, with a hog? How does that green eggs and ham thing go, anyway?
PSSL has more mixers than you can shake a stick at: http://www.pssl.com/ Their dead tree catalog is easier to read than their web site. I'd recommend getting them to send you a copy if you're not in a mad hurry to get a mixer. Some mixers have multiple outputs, so you could send one set to your stereo and another back into your computer for feedback loops or easy sampling from external sources. If you've got a rack you might want to consider a rackmount mixer just because it would look cool.
PSSL has more mixers than you can shake a stick at:
http://www.pssl.com/
Their dead tree catalog is easier to read than their web site. I'd recommend getting them to send you a copy if you're not in a mad hurry to get a mixer.
Some mixers have multiple outputs, so you could send one set to your stereo and another back into your computer for feedback loops or easy sampling from external sources.
If you've got a rack you might want to consider a rackmount mixer just because it would look cool.
For crap's sake, can you people do anything other than complain? You bitch because you want more companies to support Linux, and then when one does, you bitch at them. It doesn't make sense to me. They strongly support Linux and then get reamed out by Linux users.
IMHO, SGI deserves to be roundly applauded for this move, which is a win-win for them and for Linux in general. They also deserve some respect from us for contributing back some of their higher-end Irix technologies.
They are going to sell boatloads of Linux servers, technical and 3D/video workstations, and those dope flat monitors. Great for SGI.
As a means toward that end, they are going to be putting a lot of work into improving Linux, including lots of fs/networking/smp kernel enhancements, better OpenGL support, and I am willing to bet some UI improvements also. Great for us.
They are a strong company with very strong technology, and a lot of very pro-Linux people working there. Let's encourage them instead of discouraging them.
Until recently, affordable yet quality e-commerce and web application scripting environments for Unix (esp. Linux) were in scarce supply. There have always been high-end tools for large Digital Unix/Irix/Solaris sites (like Sapphire/Web) but nothing really stood out for the average *nix developer like the NT world has with ASP/CF. PHP until recently has not been perceived as being as robust, solid and scaleable as, for example, Cold Fusion, although I believe PHP4 will definitely be up to par.
Anyway, my point is that even a year ago it was really difficult and expensive for the average joe to do database-driven web sites under Unix, and the choices for Linux were even fewer. I know, I've been there, and had to search all over hell's half acre just to find a professional shopping cart system for Linux (a year ago). That is all changing now, thankfully, and I would expect that Linux will become the more robust platform for web development in rather short order.
Please, spare me the comments about mod_perl, CGI shopping carts and the like. I am talking about professional, integrated application servers for high-traffic sites, not add-on scripting languages.
So, I can understand why they might have felt the best choice at the time was CF/NT. Give them a break, wait until CF/Linux ships, and see if they switch then.
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PhotoShop for Unix has indeed been out forever. I seem to recall Irix and Solaris being two of the supported platforms. The problem is that it is some ancient version like 3.0.5 or possibly even 2.0, and it costs more than the Mac or PC versions, which are now up to version 5.5.
I'm starting to use GIMP a bit for web graphics just to avoid waiting for my Mac to start up, but the interface really could be better.
Don't get me wrong, it is a useful program and I am grateful to those who have put so much work into it, but it is not quite up to par with recent versions of PhotoShop for professional graphic design.
I guess it's those little submenus that get to me. It's hard to get the mouse to slide into the right submenu.
Yup. I loaded Linux on an HP Netserver LHII with dual PPro and an HP NetRAID controller, which is really just an AMI Megaraid resold by HP as OEM equipment. RAID5 & hotswap. At the time there were no system utilities for monitoring the status of the drives under Linux, but I think AMI did release some a little while back.
It was also a repurposed NT server. It was a good feeling when I wiped NT off the hard drive. I haven't missed it once.
There are a lot of things I don't like about TV, most of which have already been mentioned... but one of the things I dislike the most is laugh tracks in sitcoms.
If it's funny, I'll laugh. If it's not funny, which it usually isn't, I won't. Don't insult my intelligence.
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OK... if you're feeling is that way, would you embrace a linux port of something like Cold Fusion ahead of php4?
FYI, Allaire will be shipping Cold Fusion for Linux in Q1 2000.
I used characters from the Lion King where I used to work:
Mufasa
Simba
Nala
Rafiki
Timon
etc.
My machine at home, however, is named 'bitchass'.
Two words: birth control
Birth control is pretty much a 20th century invention.
I doubt couples back in the day were like "Hey, let's have 14 kids." They just sort of, er, happened most of the time I think.
I could be wrong. I've been wrong before.
Man it's like this:
I wanna say that Linux/KDE would do the trick, but Netscape is waaaaay too crash-prone.
Also, Linux has its own fair share of inconsistencies. Think about how many different kinds of file/directory selector dialogs there are. (KDE/GTK/GNOME/homegrown X/Motif) That drives me nuts, and is probably enough in itself to confuse Gramps or any other new computer user.
And, X does freeze up from time to time, although not as much as Win98 or MacOS.
My ease-of-use recommendations:
1. iMac/WebTV/BeOS/as-yet-unknown appliance
2. Windows
Many people posting to this thread have said "this guy..." in reference to the author of the story.
:)
The byline says "By Robin Lloyd", which could be either a guy or a woman. Not that it's relevant to the story, but it kind of bugs me to see assumptions about gender like that.
Just like there are plenty of male nurses, I'm sure there are also plenty of female tech journalists who have problems installing really, really old versions of OpenLinux
OK, you may now flame me for being nitpicky and go back to debating the finer points of autoprobing vs. editing init files with vi. I personally am going to sleep now.
Sorry, DTML is too hard to type and read for my tastes.
Last time I looked it was embedded in HTML comments.
Other than that, Zope seems fairly cool.
No. To the best of my limited knowledge, one must file for a trademark in each country.
I seem to recall hearing about a restaurant that had a trademark on the name McDonald's in some Middle Eastern country. Ronald was not pleased.
Mandrake also uses UltraDMA on IDE drives which support it, for a substantial speed increase, and tweaks some stuff in the KDE configuration.
It runs fine on my workstation, but my friend has been having DMA-related problems that prevent him from installing it. Maybe we'll try 6.1 today.
OS X Consumer, a.k.a. Mac OS X a.k.a. OS X Client is very much MacOS to the core, not BSD. It will offer pre-emptive multitasking, protected memory, and lots of overdue simplification of the MacOS API. It should very much rock, and promises to be very stable. Last I heard it was due Q4 1999 or Q1 2000. Apple has been really tight-lipped since Jobs came back, so we probably won't know until right before it ships. MacOS X Server is the one that's BSD-based.
Um, so what's a brother gotta do to get q3test running with a Matrox Millenium G200 AGP?
I did download Mesa at one point, and glx, but then I gave up when it wanted me to replace some libraries and recompile X. It was, and still is, a bit over my head, and struck me as the type of thing I would screw up, in the process permanently hosing my X Window System.
Is there an easier way?
I think Mozilla is going to eat IE's lunch because:
.02 - I could be wrong.
a) Because of the adherence to standards, many (most?) web designers will immediately start using it as their reference browser for laying out pages. Therefore, pages will look 'best when viewed with Mozilla', so naturally people will want to run it.
b) One of the things holding back the growth of Linux has been the lack of a good web browser. Communicator 4.6 is a valiant effort, but does not compare to IE5 under NT. Communicator crashes *way* too much, and is behind the times when it comes to modern standards support. It is barely useable for me, and that's only because I know how to 'ps aux | grep netscape', 'kill ' and 'rm -f ~/.netscape/.lock' Imagine the average office schmuck doing that.
Mozilla promises to be better in every way than IE5, which should propel the growth of both Linux and Mozilla.
c) Because it is open source, the rendering engine is bound to end up embedded in just about everything... network appliances, Linux GUIs, etc. In addition to being open source, it's also much more lightweight than IE, making it attractive for these environments.
Just my
Actually, I was wondering if it would be possible to run Demon Stalkers in an C64 emulator for the Amiga, running under AmigaDOS, running under a Windows-based Amiga emulator, running under WINE, running under Debian, running in VMWare, running in Mandrake, on my old 386SX/16 with coffee stains on the keyboard.
Would you want to? On a log, with a hog? How does that green eggs and ham thing go, anyway?
I think I should go eat some food now.
You are correct, you win the prize.
I believe it's in a recent ChangeLog - probably the one for 3.0.12.
PSSL has more mixers than you can shake a stick at: http://www.pssl.com/ Their dead tree catalog is easier to read than their web site. I'd recommend getting them to send you a copy if you're not in a mad hurry to get a mixer. Some mixers have multiple outputs, so you could send one set to your stereo and another back into your computer for feedback loops or easy sampling from external sources. If you've got a rack you might want to consider a rackmount mixer just because it would look cool.
PSSL has more mixers than you can shake a stick at:
http://www.pssl.com/
Their dead tree catalog is easier to read than their web site. I'd recommend getting them to send you a copy if you're not in a mad hurry to get a mixer.
Some mixers have multiple outputs, so you could send one set to your stereo and another back into your computer for feedback loops or easy sampling from external sources.
If you've got a rack you might want to consider a rackmount mixer just because it would look cool.
I actually think I remember hearing that SGI was going to contrib some fixes toward this. I could be wrong.
Also see:
http://www.linuxtv.org/
For crap's sake, can you people do anything other than complain? You bitch because you want more companies to support Linux, and then when one does, you bitch at them. It doesn't make sense to me. They strongly support Linux and then get reamed out by Linux users.
IMHO, SGI deserves to be roundly applauded for this move, which is a win-win for them and for Linux in general. They also deserve some respect from us for contributing back some of their higher-end Irix technologies.
They are going to sell boatloads of Linux servers, technical and 3D/video workstations, and those dope flat monitors. Great for SGI.
As a means toward that end, they are going to be putting a lot of work into improving Linux, including lots of fs/networking/smp kernel enhancements, better OpenGL support, and I am willing to bet some UI improvements also. Great for us.
They are a strong company with very strong technology, and a lot of very pro-Linux people working there. Let's encourage them instead of discouraging them.
Give them a break, people.
Until recently, affordable yet quality e-commerce and web application scripting environments for Unix (esp. Linux) were in scarce supply. There have always been high-end tools for large Digital Unix/Irix/Solaris sites (like Sapphire/Web) but nothing really stood out for the average *nix developer like the NT world has with ASP/CF. PHP until recently has not been perceived as being as robust, solid and scaleable as, for example, Cold Fusion, although I believe PHP4 will definitely be up to par.
Anyway, my point is that even a year ago it was really difficult and expensive for the average joe to do database-driven web sites under Unix, and the choices for Linux were even fewer. I know, I've been there, and had to search all over hell's half acre just to find a professional shopping cart system for Linux (a year ago). That is all changing now, thankfully, and I would expect that Linux will become the more robust platform for web development in rather short order.
Please, spare me the comments about mod_perl, CGI shopping carts and the like. I am talking about professional, integrated application servers for high-traffic sites, not add-on scripting languages.
So, I can understand why they might have felt the best choice at the time was CF/NT. Give them a break, wait until CF/Linux ships, and see if they switch then.
PhotoShop for Unix has indeed been out forever. I seem to recall Irix and Solaris being two of the supported platforms. The problem is that it is some ancient version like 3.0.5 or possibly even 2.0, and it costs more than the Mac or PC versions, which are now up to version 5.5.
I'm starting to use GIMP a bit for web graphics just to avoid waiting for my Mac to start up, but the interface really could be better.
Don't get me wrong, it is a useful program and I am grateful to those who have put so much work into it, but it is not quite up to par with recent versions of PhotoShop for professional graphic design.
I guess it's those little submenus that get to me. It's hard to get the mouse to slide into the right submenu.
Yup. I loaded Linux on an HP Netserver LHII with dual PPro and an HP NetRAID controller, which is really just an AMI Megaraid resold by HP as OEM equipment. RAID5 & hotswap. At the time there were no system utilities for monitoring the status of the drives under Linux, but I think AMI did release some a little while back.
It was also a repurposed NT server. It was a good feeling when I wiped NT off the hard drive. I haven't missed it once.
There are a lot of things I don't like about TV, most of which have already been mentioned... but one of the things I dislike the most is laugh tracks in sitcoms.
:)
If it's funny, I'll laugh. If it's not funny, which it usually isn't, I won't. Don't insult my intelligence.
Thanks for listening to me vent