My athlon 2600 is newer than the P4 that I have it up against, yet the older, slower P4 kicks its ass on the Prime95 test. Did I say I was testing a brand new processor? No.
It's in your face but you can't deal with even one small corner of the processor world being absolutely ruled by the P4.
I am curious how an Athlon 64 would do... not because of the sse2 stuff, but to see if it can compete close to the 8 instructions per clock cycle FPU of the latest P4's... You do realize the latest P4's are not the same ones that were around when my XP was new don't you?
go spend a couple weeks allowance and build yourself a water cooling system!
Buy the water block for the processor, make the rest of the setup from cheap parts...
car transmission radiator, rubbermaid resevoir, plastic tubes and clamps... bought at Canadian Tire (I'm sure you americans have some equivalent hardware store)
300gph water pump bought at the local pet store.
during a heatwave this summer here with ~33celcius temps, my computer was running at only 42celcius under full load 24/7 running Prime95.... in a small cramped room with poor ventilation.
and it is QUIET with just the rear case fans (not the power fan) blowing through the radiator.
I have a 2ghz P4 and a 2.088ghz Athlon XP (2600) both running Prime95 right now.
By your own reasoning, the Athlon has a huge advantage.... the slightly faster clock speed, and the huge ability to do more with one cycle than a P4 can.
nonetheless.. the P4 is chewing threw the Prime95 test much faster. About 0.086 seconds per iteration versus 0.121 seconds per iteration on the Athlon. About a 40% advantage for the wimpy piece of crap P4.
Both computers are running nothing else and are performing Prime95 tests of roughly equal difficulty.
Over the last 5 or 6 years there's pretty much always been such an advantage for the Pentiums on the hardcore FPU processing.
I am an AMD fanboy... but unlike you, I dont sit there blindly screaming "I'm the best! I'm the best, you suck!"... Instead, I use the best chip for the application at hand and get on with business.
I appreciate that I got through to someone who is obviously a thoughtful american who understands the issues. But there is more going wrong in your country than you appear to see.
I do generalize americans too much. I have rarely met an american that was truly a horrible person... but the actions of the american people, through the governments they have created generate great pains in me.
The Bush government has done so many things to destroy international relations through breaking treaties and ignoring trade agreements; to destroy the freedom of your own people; to take away from the needy while giving more to those who have no needs; to create more dangerous enemies around the world.... that it just seems ludicris to most canadians.
Look at South Africa. There are other ways to reform unjust societies. Canada and the commonwealth carried diplomacy and sanctions to the desired end result. While Bush couldn't jump fast enough to declare that diplomacy wasn't working with Iraq, pretending that the world couldn't see him sabotage any attempts to truly have it work.
Anyways,
how do you know Khadaffi isn't funding terrorism anymore? just because he has said so? Well guess what!
Hussein over and over again said that he had no WMD's, and that there were no ties between him and al-qaeda... and those words have since been proven true... yet he was the great evil that had to be destroyed.
The most sickening thing is that Hussein took WMD technology given to him covertly by YOUR COUNTRY during the Regan years, and used it on his own people instead of on the Iranians as the USA had wanted.... basically terrorism planned and run by YOUR country that backfired.... yet you think Bush was right to slaughter Iraq while holding up Khadaffi as a hero?
Actually, here in Canada, we dont have to sit and think about reasons to hate you, the reasons are so obvious that there's no need to go out of the way at all.
Great health care? ya sure. keep believeing that. In Canada we spend HALF the money per capita as you do on health care. HALF! and yet our sick and injured tend to receive far better care than people in your system, they also tend to have a much higher survival rate for many common diseases and procedures requiring hospital care... oh ya, and that better, cheaper health care goes to ALLLL, not just to the jerks like you who can afford health insurance and like to flaunt it while others suffer.
How does that make you feel, to know that in the USA, you pay twice as much money for health care, yet are more likely to die from the common diseases and procedures seen in all our hospitals... even though you dont 'waste' money on poor who suffer without care.
Anyways, of course you dont give a damn what the world thinks! you're american! just how redundant do you have to be?
Perhaps one day you will open your eyes and realize that you're lives will be better if you stop treating the world like shit and whining when the enemies you have created come back to bite you.
wow! shake the cage and watch the rats scurry out!
Its hilarious to see this fool compare me to Hitler when in the previous sentance he claims that americans are superior in every way that matters. Who here is the real racist bastard?... certainly not me, I'm pointing out that you are every bit as worthless as the enemies you've created and now feel you must destroy.
big words from an anonymous coward too, who can't stand behind what he says with his own name.
Totally out of touch too. I have no idea how you could think my message had anything to do with europe and their dirty nazi history in any way.
No one is debating the history of hussein. Yes indeed, he did take the AMERICAN WMD technology, that he was given by AMERICANS, and used it to kill his own people instead of the Iranians who were the target the AMERICANS had in mind when THEY GAVE hussein the WMD technology. hmm can you connect the dots here? was that obvious enough?
The argument is that Bush attacked Iraq purely to support his goal of destabilizing the oil market, increasing the price, at the expense of 1000 americans who thought they were fighting for the freedom of Iraqi's, and at the expense of tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians that at least had some stability before the war.
Bush LIED to his own citizens and to the world, sending his own citizens to their deaths in Iraq when there was never any proof of WMD's, when there was never any link to terrorists, and despite successfully keeping Hussein boxed in and neutralized for the previous 10 years.
How can you believe anything Bush says on any topic when he so eagerly threw your sons and daughters to their deaths based on a lie?... while meanwhile he's only put forth a half-assed effort to catch Osama Bin Laden, the real cause of 911.
Making money is perfectly fine! I encourage it, go make some money, then go spend / invest it to help the economy, to help others prosper.
But if you hold a powerful public office, use that position for the good of the people, NOT simply to put more money in your pockets and the pockets of people in other countries purely at the expense of your own people... expense in both money and many lives.
Everything Bush has done as president has been either to increase the demand for oil, decrease the supply of oil, increase the price of oil... or advance his radical fundamentalist religious views.
He ended a plan to require new vehicals to have 3mpg better mileage than they have now. This increase would have saved 3 times more oil that has been imported from Iraq each year historicaly. This would account for 6 times the oil that could be produced each year if Bush got his way and allowed oil drilling in the world heritage park in Alaska.
He SUED california to stop them from further increasing the fuel efficiency and decreasing the pollution from new cars in that state.
When he spouted off about the great hydrogen economy and passed $4billion towards research on the topic.. the same bill also sent $17billion in subsidies to the oil industry!... of course he never talked about that part.
He had good practice in manipulating energy prices, he helped do it with electricity before doing it with oil. Bush's friends own the electricity companies responsible for the shortage in california a couple years ago. The final report on the incident found that they intentionally shut down power plants to artificially create a shortage, to drive up the price of electricity for their own profit, and to force the government to give them subsidies to build more power plants. Today the price of electricity has crashed in that region due to a vast oversupply! Over the course of the shortage, the energy companies effectively stole $30BILLION from the wallets of the public.
I could go on for hours with all the ways Bush has screwed your people. Why is it so obvious to all the world except to you americans!?!
Will it really have to get to the point of US citizens 'disappearing' from american soil, never to be heard from again, taken by your own government's hand? The new version of the Patriot Act will legalize exactly such a thing so dont complain too loudly when it becomes law lest you 'disappear'.
Oh, and on the religion thing... I could go on and on there too, but i'll end by reminding you that bush is a strong believer in the book of revelations. He literally doesnt believe the earth should be protected for our children's future because armegeddon will destroy it all anyways.
I guess you aren't aware that the Bin Laden family is a major investor in the american arms companies... the Bin Ladens made a great profit through all the government arms contracts needed to replace the weapons used in Iraq.
I guess you also aren't aware that the Bin Laden's are a major oil family, and that by helping Bush destabilize the world oil markets using the false scare tactics, and pinching off the oil supply from Iraq, Bush and his Bin Laden friends have gotten exactly what they wanted... an oil price that has more than doubled!
In fact, just in July of this year, Americans sent $90BILLION more dollars to saudi arabia to buy oil than they would have with the pre-war / pre-bush prices!
You have no idea how much the Bin Ladens love you dumbass americans.
hey dumbass, as you gleefully move along, give just 2 seconds to the thought that maybe the government is trying to hide information from YOU rather than from the rest of the world...
move along, there's nothing to see here as we slowly launch '1984' as a reality.
The other side DID produce its own singularly one sided narrative... it was the presidency of the last 4 years where all forms of lies and manipulations were televised as absolute fact and accepted as such by the average dumbass american..... while Dubya worked towards his goal of a destabilzied oil market with much higher prices... to fill his pockets and those of his saudi oil friends with your hard earned money.
Sadly you damn sheep in the USA bought it hook line and sinker.
Canada thought about the implications of invading Iraq without just cause (unlike France who just wanted to protect some financial resources in Iraq).
Canada was so damn right and showed true leadership by not being a sucker to Dubya's "yer either with us or against us" freedom fries bullshit, or succumbing to the anger of thousands of americans who let their opinion of 'their former ally' be known loud and clear.
When will the average ignorant american wake up and act with the same responsibility Canada showed?
I can hear it now: "ohhhh but saddam was 'a gathering threat'!"
ya right, Sure he was... meanwhile, Khadaffi, the evil dictator of Libya funded multiple terrorist attacks around the world and is being held up as a hero by that doublespeaking bastard Bush.
Of course Libya doesnt have the oil that Iraq has, so there's no need to hold anything against him.
There is already the equivalent of 100,000+ ball bearings in orbit around the earth due to all the junk we've put into orbit... from exploding, defective, malfunctioning equipment, from leaky coolant systems, from garbage and human waste ejections, to a ham sandwhich that flew out from one of the gemini capsules in the 60's... which was tracked for sometime til it finally did re-enter the atmosphere.
Exactly how many ball bearings do you think it would take to wipe out all satellites, in a volume of space equal to roughly 20x the earth's volume?
Fortuneatly the USA doesnt control all the satellites.
Maybe there is something up that the US doesn't want the world to see right now.
Over the last few days I have been trying to download various GIS data from US sources that are free to anyone. In these last few days, instead of receiving data, I've been receiving a simple webpage saying 'security alert, your request can not be processed at this time'.... the hiding of geographic data from the public now goes much farther than just satellite images.
'what does the USA not want its own people to see?'
This is all just part of the overall '1984' plan. You must be kept in the dark as to what your government is doing, otherwise you might wise up and do something stupid like create a peaceful world that is prosperous for everyone.
The dumbass americans will hurt their own GIS based industries far more than they realize, compared to ZERO gain in safety from 'terrorists'.
Want to know where you need to guide your homemade cruise missle to?
YOU DONT NEED A DAMN MAP, you just need to wander on up to the target with a $100 GPS unit and you've got coordinates good to 10m. Can't wander right up to it?... take lots of readings and triangulate.
As much as we all love the great Nelson Mandela now.. really he was indeed a terrorist.
He was convicted for organising a group that used violence to fight to overthrow the south african government.
Of course the South African government of the time deserved to have their asses handed to them for their racist repressions, but it doesnt change the fact that Mandela was taking part in terrorist actions. He was a good terrorist.
What you don't seem to understand is that the Patriot Act has nothing to do with protecting the USA from terrorism. It is entirely about controlling the population of the USA.
Bush has been fighting a war upon YOU yet most dont even see it.
And he has won. He has kept americans perpetually scared over imaginary threats, he used that fear to attack a sovereign nation with no proof of any links to 911, or of the WMD's that were used as part of the scare tactics. He has ensured that Iraqi oil will stay off the world oil markets and kept the oil markets on edge.... It really was Mission Accomplished. He more than doubled the price of oil, stuffing his family's pockets, and his saudi friend's pockets at YOUR expense.
Don't believe me?
Then why didn't the US wipe out Libya? Khadaffi funded multiple terrorist attacks around the world but Dubya holds him up as a hero.
Why didn't the US wipe out Pakistan? All but 2 of the 911 pilots were pakistani citizens! Instead Dubya enjoyed the support of Pakistan during his half-assed search of Afghanistan for Osama.
Why am I mad?
Because as of today, 1000 americans have died needlessly in a war based totally on a lie.
I'm sorry to hear about your trouble, I've heard of a few people in the news with the same problem, including Senator Kennedy himself.
The list of people banned from flying in the USA is not very long, only a few thousand people from what I've heard. The problem is that the dumbassess in charge will refuse people that have the same name as a banned person regardless of what proof you show to distinguish yourself.
In the case of the senator, its damn obvious that Dubya himself, or one of his dirty cronies put him on the no-fly list because of how he has spoken out on the lies the world was fed to support the unjust invasion of Iraq.
Good luck getting off the list. Perhaps if you buy a Republican party membership and swear you'll vote for that Dubya bastard, they'll listen to your plea. Otherwise I doubt they'll take you off the list. I bet their arguement will be "you must be a terrorist because you are fighting so hard to get off the list".
But don't argue too hard. When Dubya gets his new version of the patriot act passed, it will be legal for the US government to make their own citizens 'dissappear' without a trace, held indefinately without contact, and without being charged with anything. 1984 is here indeed.
actually, there are other uses for a processor like this, albeit waiting the 6 months does make more sense.
For example, my MapServer website... hosted on my home computer. Its an internet mapserving website using open source software, it allows you to surf a map of a gold mining property to view all the exploration work that has been done... from 10000+ soil samples symbolized by your choice of 32 elements, to hundreds of drill holes, airphotos, geophysics... 2GB of data in 90+ layers viewable and many of them can be queried leading to more data such as drill sections and assay tables.
Such a tasty processor would generate maps quicker, allowing more users, and allowing me to do more with my machine while hosting the site.
PS:... due to the/. effect, I shall not post my URL.
There is more to do out there than just waste time playing games.
Of course he was a class act celebrity who was polite and friendly to you after your long wait!
he is Canadian!
http://www.geocities.com/ussmunchkin/BiogDoohan. ht m
Its not like he's some dumbass american that would sooner bomb you to destabilize the oil markets for his own dirty profit than give you the time of day!
but I digress, here in Canada, we generally treat celebrities like regular people since that really is all they are, and they tend to treat the average joe on the street like a regular person... since that's really what he is too.
some dumbass who sells anti-virus and security software claims there will be an crippling attack.
who cares! big deal! it just shows that more than just George W Bush knows how to manipulate the average idiot by scaring and 'protecting' them from the imaginary threat.
If there is an attack tomorrow... the dumbass should be the first one arrected.
That was a world war 1 munitions ship that exploded in Halifax harbour in 1917 after a collision with another ship, it had the same effect as a small nuclear bomb without the radiation. Halifax was levelled. The ship only had a couple hundred tons of explosives, plus other semi-explosive stuff, and the cargo was not arranged for an intentional all-at-once explosion, so it could have been worse.
Actually the largest non-nuclear explosion ever took place on the west coast of canada. In the 1950's A shallowly submerged island in the straits between vancouver island and the mainland was hollowed out and filled with explosives. The explosion removed a naval hazard that had sunk over 100 ships.
That explosion also used 1.4 kilotonnes of explosives.
read about it here:
http://www.vancouverislandabound.com/tamingof.ht m
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Well DUHHHHH
... not because of the sse2 stuff, but to see if it can compete close to the 8 instructions per clock cycle FPU of the latest P4's ... You do realize the latest P4's are not the same ones that were around when my XP was new don't you?
damn you anonymous coward fanboy fools!
My athlon 2600 is newer than the P4 that I have it up against, yet the older, slower P4 kicks its ass on the Prime95 test. Did I say I was testing a brand new processor? No.
It's in your face but you can't deal with even one small corner of the processor world being absolutely ruled by the P4.
I am curious how an Athlon 64 would do
damn!
...
... bought at Canadian Tire (I'm sure you americans have some equivalent hardware store)
... in a small cramped room with poor ventilation.
go spend a couple weeks allowance and build yourself a water cooling system!
Buy the water block for the processor, make the rest of the setup from cheap parts
car transmission radiator, rubbermaid resevoir, plastic tubes and clamps
300gph water pump bought at the local pet store.
during a heatwave this summer here with ~33celcius temps, my computer was running at only 42celcius under full load 24/7 running Prime95.
and it is QUIET with just the rear case fans (not the power fan) blowing through the radiator.
The best chip depends on the application.
.... the slightly faster clock speed, and the huge ability to do more with one cycle than a P4 can.
.. the P4 is chewing threw the Prime95 test much faster. About 0.086 seconds per iteration versus 0.121 seconds per iteration on the Athlon. About a 40% advantage for the wimpy piece of crap P4.
... but unlike you, I dont sit there blindly screaming "I'm the best! I'm the best, you suck!" ... Instead, I use the best chip for the application at hand and get on with business.
I have a 2ghz P4 and a 2.088ghz Athlon XP (2600) both running Prime95 right now.
By your own reasoning, the Athlon has a huge advantage
nonetheless
Both computers are running nothing else and are performing Prime95 tests of roughly equal difficulty.
Over the last 5 or 6 years there's pretty much always been such an advantage for the Pentiums on the hardcore FPU processing.
I am an AMD fanboy
the USA had SARS as well, just not as bad.
I guess you europeans with your brains rotted from decades of BSE forgot that.
So, how did that work out? Did you finally realize that you shouldn't feed cows to cows?
And I guess you just don't realize that your neighbourhood is only one plane ride away from being wiped out by ebola. It could happen anywhere.
I appreciate that I got through to someone who is obviously a thoughtful american who understands the issues. But there is more going wrong in your country than you appear to see.
... but the actions of the american people, through the governments they have created generate great pains in me.
.... that it just seems ludicris to most canadians.
... and those words have since been proven true ... yet he was the great evil that had to be destroyed.
... basically terrorism planned and run by YOUR country that backfired. ... yet you think Bush was right to slaughter Iraq while holding up Khadaffi as a hero?
I do generalize americans too much. I have rarely met an american that was truly a horrible person
The Bush government has done so many things to destroy international relations through breaking treaties and ignoring trade agreements; to destroy the freedom of your own people; to take away from the needy while giving more to those who have no needs; to create more dangerous enemies around the world
Look at South Africa. There are other ways to reform unjust societies. Canada and the commonwealth carried diplomacy and sanctions to the desired end result. While Bush couldn't jump fast enough to declare that diplomacy wasn't working with Iraq, pretending that the world couldn't see him sabotage any attempts to truly have it work.
Anyways,
how do you know Khadaffi isn't funding terrorism anymore? just because he has said so? Well guess what!
Hussein over and over again said that he had no WMD's, and that there were no ties between him and al-qaeda
The most sickening thing is that Hussein took WMD technology given to him covertly by YOUR COUNTRY during the Regan years, and used it on his own people instead of on the Iranians as the USA had wanted.
Actually, here in Canada, we dont have to sit and think about reasons to hate you, the reasons are so obvious that there's no need to go out of the way at all.
... oh ya, and that better, cheaper health care goes to ALLLL, not just to the jerks like you who can afford health insurance and like to flaunt it while others suffer.
... even though you dont 'waste' money on poor who suffer without care.
Great health care? ya sure. keep believeing that. In Canada we spend HALF the money per capita as you do on health care. HALF! and yet our sick and injured tend to receive far better care than people in your system, they also tend to have a much higher survival rate for many common diseases and procedures requiring hospital care
How does that make you feel, to know that in the USA, you pay twice as much money for health care, yet are more likely to die from the common diseases and procedures seen in all our hospitals
Anyways, of course you dont give a damn what the world thinks! you're american! just how redundant do you have to be?
Perhaps one day you will open your eyes and realize that you're lives will be better if you stop treating the world like shit and whining when the enemies you have created come back to bite you.
wow! shake the cage and watch the rats scurry out!
... certainly not me, I'm pointing out that you are every bit as worthless as the enemies you've created and now feel you must destroy.
... while meanwhile he's only put forth a half-assed effort to catch Osama Bin Laden, the real cause of 911.
Its hilarious to see this fool compare me to Hitler when in the previous sentance he claims that americans are superior in every way that matters. Who here is the real racist bastard?
big words from an anonymous coward too, who can't stand behind what he says with his own name.
Totally out of touch too. I have no idea how you could think my message had anything to do with europe and their dirty nazi history in any way.
No one is debating the history of hussein. Yes indeed, he did take the AMERICAN WMD technology, that he was given by AMERICANS, and used it to kill his own people instead of the Iranians who were the target the AMERICANS had in mind when THEY GAVE hussein the WMD technology. hmm can you connect the dots here? was that obvious enough?
The argument is that Bush attacked Iraq purely to support his goal of destabilizing the oil market, increasing the price, at the expense of 1000 americans who thought they were fighting for the freedom of Iraqi's, and at the expense of tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians that at least had some stability before the war.
Bush LIED to his own citizens and to the world, sending his own citizens to their deaths in Iraq when there was never any proof of WMD's, when there was never any link to terrorists, and despite successfully keeping Hussein boxed in and neutralized for the previous 10 years.
How can you believe anything Bush says on any topic when he so eagerly threw your sons and daughters to their deaths based on a lie?
sure, my post was overated. ya right.
of course we all know that really it just hurts to know how wrong you all were when Canada did the right thing.
How could you have missed my point so completly?
... expense in both money and many lives.
... or advance his radical fundamentalist religious views.
.. the same bill also sent $17billion in subsidies to the oil industry! ... of course he never talked about that part.
... I could go on and on there too, but i'll end by reminding you that bush is a strong believer in the book of revelations. He literally doesnt believe the earth should be protected for our children's future because armegeddon will destroy it all anyways.
Making money is perfectly fine! I encourage it, go make some money, then go spend / invest it to help the economy, to help others prosper.
But if you hold a powerful public office, use that position for the good of the people, NOT simply to put more money in your pockets and the pockets of people in other countries purely at the expense of your own people
Everything Bush has done as president has been either to increase the demand for oil, decrease the supply of oil, increase the price of oil
He ended a plan to require new vehicals to have 3mpg better mileage than they have now. This increase would have saved 3 times more oil that has been imported from Iraq each year historicaly. This would account for 6 times the oil that could be produced each year if Bush got his way and allowed oil drilling in the world heritage park in Alaska.
He SUED california to stop them from further increasing the fuel efficiency and decreasing the pollution from new cars in that state.
When he spouted off about the great hydrogen economy and passed $4billion towards research on the topic
He had good practice in manipulating energy prices, he helped do it with electricity before doing it with oil. Bush's friends own the electricity companies responsible for the shortage in california a couple years ago. The final report on the incident found that they intentionally shut down power plants to artificially create a shortage, to drive up the price of electricity for their own profit, and to force the government to give them subsidies to build more power plants. Today the price of electricity has crashed in that region due to a vast oversupply! Over the course of the shortage, the energy companies effectively stole $30BILLION from the wallets of the public.
I could go on for hours with all the ways Bush has screwed your people. Why is it so obvious to all the world except to you americans!?!
Will it really have to get to the point of US citizens 'disappearing' from american soil, never to be heard from again, taken by your own government's hand? The new version of the Patriot Act will legalize exactly such a thing so dont complain too loudly when it becomes law lest you 'disappear'.
Oh, and on the religion thing
and you dumbasses think he's made you all safer.
You think that's the reason?
... the Bin Ladens made a great profit through all the government arms contracts needed to replace the weapons used in Iraq.
... an oil price that has more than doubled!
I guess you aren't aware that the Bin Laden family is a major investor in the american arms companies
I guess you also aren't aware that the Bin Laden's are a major oil family, and that by helping Bush destabilize the world oil markets using the false scare tactics, and pinching off the oil supply from Iraq, Bush and his Bin Laden friends have gotten exactly what they wanted
In fact, just in July of this year, Americans sent $90BILLION more dollars to saudi arabia to buy oil than they would have with the pre-war / pre-bush prices!
You have no idea how much the Bin Ladens love you dumbass americans.
hey dumbass, as you gleefully move along, give just 2 seconds to the thought that maybe the government is trying to hide information from YOU rather than from the rest of the world ...
move along, there's nothing to see here as we slowly launch '1984' as a reality.
The other side DID produce its own singularly one sided narrative ... it was the presidency of the last 4 years where all forms of lies and manipulations were televised as absolute fact and accepted as such by the average dumbass american. .... while Dubya worked towards his goal of a destabilzied oil market with much higher prices ... to fill his pockets and those of his saudi oil friends with your hard earned money.
... meanwhile, Khadaffi, the evil dictator of Libya funded multiple terrorist attacks around the world and is being held up as a hero by that doublespeaking bastard Bush.
Sadly you damn sheep in the USA bought it hook line and sinker.
Canada thought about the implications of invading Iraq without just cause (unlike France who just wanted to protect some financial resources in Iraq).
Canada was so damn right and showed true leadership by not being a sucker to Dubya's "yer either with us or against us" freedom fries bullshit, or succumbing to the anger of thousands of americans who let their opinion of 'their former ally' be known loud and clear.
When will the average ignorant american wake up and act with the same responsibility Canada showed?
I can hear it now: "ohhhh but saddam was 'a gathering threat'!"
ya right, Sure he was
Of course Libya doesnt have the oil that Iraq has, so there's no need to hold anything against him.
space is big.
... from exploding, defective, malfunctioning equipment, from leaky coolant systems, from garbage and human waste ejections, to a ham sandwhich that flew out from one of the gemini capsules in the 60's ... which was tracked for sometime til it finally did re-enter the atmosphere.
There is already the equivalent of 100,000+ ball bearings in orbit around the earth due to all the junk we've put into orbit
Exactly how many ball bearings do you think it would take to wipe out all satellites, in a volume of space equal to roughly 20x the earth's volume?
Fortuneatly the USA doesnt control all the satellites.
... the hiding of geographic data from the public now goes much farther than just satellite images.
Maybe there is something up that the US doesn't want the world to see right now.
Over the last few days I have been trying to download various GIS data from US sources that are free to anyone. In these last few days, instead of receiving data, I've been receiving a simple webpage saying 'security alert, your request can not be processed at this time'.
The question is not:
... take lots of readings and triangulate.
'what does the USA not want the world to see?'
The question is:
'what does the USA not want its own people to see?'
This is all just part of the overall '1984' plan. You must be kept in the dark as to what your government is doing, otherwise you might wise up and do something stupid like create a peaceful world that is prosperous for everyone.
The dumbass americans will hurt their own GIS based industries far more than they realize, compared to ZERO gain in safety from 'terrorists'.
Want to know where you need to guide your homemade cruise missle to?
YOU DONT NEED A DAMN MAP, you just need to wander on up to the target with a $100 GPS unit and you've got coordinates good to 10m. Can't wander right up to it?
As much as we all love the great Nelson Mandela now .. really he was indeed a terrorist.
... It really was Mission Accomplished. He more than doubled the price of oil, stuffing his family's pockets, and his saudi friend's pockets at YOUR expense.
He was convicted for organising a group that used violence to fight to overthrow the south african government.
Of course the South African government of the time deserved to have their asses handed to them for their racist repressions, but it doesnt change the fact that Mandela was taking part in terrorist actions. He was a good terrorist.
What you don't seem to understand is that the Patriot Act has nothing to do with protecting the USA from terrorism. It is entirely about controlling the population of the USA.
Bush has been fighting a war upon YOU yet most dont even see it.
And he has won. He has kept americans perpetually scared over imaginary threats, he used that fear to attack a sovereign nation with no proof of any links to 911, or of the WMD's that were used as part of the scare tactics. He has ensured that Iraqi oil will stay off the world oil markets and kept the oil markets on edge.
Don't believe me?
Then why didn't the US wipe out Libya? Khadaffi funded multiple terrorist attacks around the world but Dubya holds him up as a hero.
Why didn't the US wipe out Pakistan? All but 2 of the 911 pilots were pakistani citizens! Instead Dubya enjoyed the support of Pakistan during his half-assed search of Afghanistan for Osama.
Why am I mad?
Because as of today, 1000 americans have died needlessly in a war based totally on a lie.
I'm sorry to hear about your trouble, I've heard of a few people in the news with the same problem, including Senator Kennedy himself.
The list of people banned from flying in the USA is not very long, only a few thousand people from what I've heard. The problem is that the dumbassess in charge will refuse people that have the same name as a banned person regardless of what proof you show to distinguish yourself.
In the case of the senator, its damn obvious that Dubya himself, or one of his dirty cronies put him on the no-fly list because of how he has spoken out on the lies the world was fed to support the unjust invasion of Iraq.
Good luck getting off the list. Perhaps if you buy a Republican party membership and swear you'll vote for that Dubya bastard, they'll listen to your plea. Otherwise I doubt they'll take you off the list. I bet their arguement will be "you must be a terrorist because you are fighting so hard to get off the list".
But don't argue too hard. When Dubya gets his new version of the patriot act passed, it will be legal for the US government to make their own citizens 'dissappear' without a trace, held indefinately without contact, and without being charged with anything. 1984 is here indeed.
yes indeed, in fact mapserver works great with a postGIS spatial database on a separate server.
But, for a system such as mine, run at home as a way to make money on the side from my day job, the cheaper system makes sense.
actually, there are other uses for a processor like this, albeit waiting the 6 months does make more sense.
... hosted on my home computer. Its an internet mapserving website using open source software, it allows you to surf a map of a gold mining property to view all the exploration work that has been done ... from 10000+ soil samples symbolized by your choice of 32 elements, to hundreds of drill holes, airphotos, geophysics ... 2GB of data in 90+ layers viewable and many of them can be queried leading to more data such as drill sections and assay tables.
... due to the /. effect, I shall not post my URL.
For example, my MapServer website
Such a tasty processor would generate maps quicker, allowing more users, and allowing me to do more with my machine while hosting the site.
PS:
There is more to do out there than just waste time playing games.
YAY!
welcome to Slashdot, where blatant brutal advertising is crammed down your throat as if it were some great news story!
who needs popups and banner ads when the story IS the advertising!
Of course he was a class act celebrity who was polite and friendly to you after your long wait!
. ht m
... since that's really what he is too.
he is Canadian!
http://www.geocities.com/ussmunchkin/BiogDoohan
Its not like he's some dumbass american that would sooner bomb you to destabilize the oil markets for his own dirty profit than give you the time of day!
but I digress, here in Canada, we generally treat celebrities like regular people since that really is all they are, and they tend to treat the average joe on the street like a regular person
wooo big surprise!
... the dumbass should be the first one arrected.
some dumbass who sells anti-virus and security software claims there will be an crippling attack.
who cares! big deal! it just shows that more than just George W Bush knows how to manipulate the average idiot by scaring and 'protecting' them from the imaginary threat.
If there is an attack tomorrow
In a somewhat fitting coincidence ...
... but of course I saw in the status bar:
... but with errors in the page"
When I followed one of the links that advertises the survey results, the page loaded with javascript errors
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I didn't realize that the IE javascript engine could also filter for misleading biased survey scams.
you could ask any question involving the US and 'responsible' and the answer will always be the same:
NOOOOOOOO
That was a world war 1 munitions ship that exploded in Halifax harbour in 1917 after a collision with another ship, it had the same effect as a small nuclear bomb without the radiation. Halifax was levelled. The ship only had a couple hundred tons of explosives, plus other semi-explosive stuff, and the cargo was not arranged for an intentional all-at-once explosion, so it could have been worse.
t m
Actually the largest non-nuclear explosion ever took place on the west coast of canada. In the 1950's A shallowly submerged island in the straits between vancouver island and the mainland was hollowed out and filled with explosives. The explosion removed a naval hazard that had sunk over 100 ships.
That explosion also used 1.4 kilotonnes of explosives.
read about it here:
http://www.vancouverislandabound.com/tamingof.h