what possibly could anything do to harm that they tell each people what the bandwidth is? how can they not be held liable for people exceeding the limit but have no idea what the limit is because for some reason, it's a government secret.
"Employees face not only job loss but the indignity of training their off shore replacements."
i know how to handle this. tell your boss or manager AND/OR IBM to shove it. tell them you WILL NOT train the very person who is going to replace your job for the sheer means of satisfying the stockholders. if they want the cheap labor that bad, then let them figure out how to train them and pay for them to be trained themselves.. and try to do that from 5,000+ miles away. then let's see how they feel about offshoring.
my employer is a start up and doesnt offer company roth IRA or traditional IRA funds but they do offer pre-tax 401K.. a hefty 15% of my salary per year whether i contribute anything or not(and i do). after age 55 1/2 i will be able to withdraw the money if i am no longer with the company tax-free.
actually you arent taxed when you save it..as far as IRA's and 401k retirement plans go. if your employer for instance has a retirement age of 55 1/2 you can retire on your 401k without the tax penalty if you left it in that long. if you withdraw before that then yes you will be taxed with a penalty. i think the IRA/Roth IRA is either 55 1/2 or 59 1/2 i am not sure.
my advice? pay off all your bills as possible then contribute the maximum your employer will give you towards your 401K and at the very least match it. your tax bracket will be lower and the federal gov't will get less from you.
so even if someone doesnt have TiVO and they dont flip the channel on commercials how do they still know that people are REALLY watching? for all they know people could be out of the room, talking on the phone, taking a dump or reading the paper or book while putting the commercials on mute.
about people that have TiVO, why is TiVO allowing the advertisers to know when people do this anyway? how much money does it take to buy TiVO and its initial rules of total privacy by the viewer?
to just call dell up and say right off the bat, "look i dont want aol free trial, i dont want musicmatch, Dell E Support, or anything else other than win xp because i will not be using any of it." would they just ignore me and not meet my request?
i dont want all that crap. i am buying from them and therefore i should get the say. i say if someone specifically asked for not to have all that bloat then whats the problem in meeting that?
i reinstalled my WIN XP Pro system after getting a DELL. i went out and got a win xp disk cheap instead of using DELL's. knowing dell the HD format was for IDE and therefore when i put my new flasy HD in the computer and started to reinstall winXP it didnt understand this format so it asked for the SATA driver on my FLOPPY disk.
here is the solution:
when you go into the BIOS there is an option to boot using different "modes". i forget now because its been a while. switch from "single" mode i think is the default and pick "Combination". the BIOS will look at the SATA HD when installing the OS and recognize the SATA format thus not having to worry about getting add on converters. hope all this makes sense. its been a while so i may have missed a step.
yes i do know a couple of people that work at google. they say that the 20% working on your own thing per week is at best a myth and is consumed with work that needs to be done and more than often than not that requires more than 40 hours. maybe you have it better off i dont know. when you say "free the engineers from having to worry about dry cleaning" that makes me somehow translate that into "because you dont have to worry about all these things we offer you "there is more time for you to be at work and more of a chance youll stay to work longer instead of going home"
the free meals is a cool thing and bringing your pet to work but the idea i was trying to make was doing things OUTSIDE of work. for instance i would rather do my laundry at home. thats what i bought a washer and dryer for. then as my clothes wash i dry i dont have to go back to my cube. i can be at the house doing other things i would rather do. you might not mind missing dinner, missing going to work out on schedule, missing spending quality time at home, etc etc but i guess it all comes down to priorities.
and the cost of living far outweighs the pay in silicon valley and for that matter NYC, Seattle, etc. i am making 60K in south Mississippi. the cost of living is what..maybe 3 times the amount? would i make $180K for the same work in northern cali? i highly doubt it.
well i live on the gulf coast, near Biloxi and it was 70 as the high today, the sun was out, no clouds..t-shirts and jeans. that is the average around here for late december/early january. if youve lived in florida then you know what i am talking about. maybe florida has a bit more rain i dont know. maybe i exaggerated just a bit. maybe 275-300 days of full sunshine. unless we have our normal tropical storms like we can get or if its about to rain, i can still see the sun and get some sunlight which is always nice.
if you live in the south(as i do) and are used to roughly 300+ days of sunshine a year with 9 months of that being labeled as summertime then that can be quite a turnoff.
if you are single with no family and want to work all your life and spend most of what you earn on outrageous housing costs, higher taxes, and urban sprawl then google is the place for you. Just like most of northern cali/simi valley/san fran the culture is also secluded and anti-social. how many couples walking on the sidewalks do you see? or people walking their dogs? heaven forbid i get a flat tire or run out of gas. i'll be walking to the gas station on my own.
if you have a family and they are first in your life above anything else(including work), want to save and not throw money away on outrageous housing costs and want privacy without having to drive one hour one way to work then google is not the place for you even if you could get a job there.
more people are figuring out that they dont want to work 50 or 60 hours a week because they want to do other things, stay healthy and just have a life outside of work. most people dont want to work where they feel like they live in China and Japan, where workers typically work 70 hour weeks, but of course their country works and thats all it does, yet where is the reward? It's hard to enjoy rewards in life that you earn if you are too busy working. Our culture has turned into the mindset slowly and on a different scale of china. that to be successful we have to work all the time and nothing else comes before it, including family. I am not sure where or when this trend started.
there is a reason why we have weekends and a reason why most people dont work more than 40 hours a week. its to take a breather from work so we can refresh. its also a reason that people have burnout and productivity decreases. In google's case there are enough people that want to work for them that have the mindset that google is their life and that is why google provides things like laundromats, bringing your pets to work, 3 gourmet meals and swimming pools. if people just wanted to go home for lunch and promptly go home after 5 or 6 pm then what would the need be to offer all these ameneties? think about that one for a moment.
I know that they have offices in NYC and Seattle as well as sporatic jobs here and there but NYC and Seattle is the same as Simi Valley/Mountain View -- that is heavy traffic, no privacy(unless you want to drive 1 hour one way to work), up to the sky housing costs and taxes and living in a culture where everyone wants to work their whole life and thus they think their employees should have the same attitude. Trying to not to sound too stereotypical i am sure there are other smaller places in these areas that at least offer stable working conditions.
In Seattle's case i dont know how in the world all these tech companies keep people in that area. Traffic is still heavy but most of all for me i just cant bear the thought of at most 3 months of sunshine and cold rainy winters. I was there in november 2 years ago and the sun did come out 2 days out of the week(the rest of the week it was raining) but you still couldnt see the sun because it was so overcast. Maybe theres a reason why it's the #1 suicidal city in the country.
part of the problem here is that everything thinks that Disney/ABC is conservative. maybe in a few aspects of the business but hardly the predominate ethics and morale that one true conservative organization would take...i.e. gay day at the Disney Theme Park.. not even close to being conservative. Also take into account this is in San Francisco..not exactly the most conservative place in the world.
as a disclaimer i live in the south so ill add a few more things (since it doesnt look like like Slashdot will ever give us an edit button).
i will echo was Al Diamond side. why is it in the northwest people are so cold/anti-social/cruel/? maybe i am just used to the 'southern hospitality' or maybe people are always just too busy to be nice. they are caught up in their own world with no thought for anyone else. this is easily seen with hardly anyone walking their dogs, their kids, their spouses. i saw a couple of loners walking but not much else.
i also visited Seattle for week when i went to a conference up there a couple of years ago. i dont know which place is worse. i never fully understood why Seattle was the #1 Suicidal capital of the world until i got there to visit. people are almost as cold/calice/rude but not quite as much. I dont know how anyone wants to live in a city with 3 months(max) of sun each year not to mention cold a lot. to be fair i went in November but i left depressed and sad..maybe thats somehow linked to the suicides i dont know. i guess if you are used to 9 months of summer and out of 365 days, 300+ of full sunshine there is no comparison.
if you are looking for a tech job take a look at some jobs(although not as many) in the south. not all the cool jobs are in simi valley, NYC or San Fran. as i said before housing will cost 1/100th of what you pay there and youll get more for your money. people are also more friendly.
i havent visited Chicago but i hear it can be very nice(minus all the cold weather). NYC is another place i havent visited but i know for a fact i would not live there. how people live in 1,000 sq foot homes worth $500,000 thats about the size of my living room alone is beyond my comprehension.
of course you could find a nice job in the south/deep south close to the beach/ocean/etc and it never snows, no earthquakes and it will be 70 here tomorrow. of course youll have to live with the occasional hurricane and/or tornado but cost of living is 1/100th of the bay area/simi valley etc etc... AND for the most part its not the urban sprawl that you are used..with of course a few exceptions.. Orlando comes to mind.
are you in Mississippi?? Mississippi has been constantly in the top 10 or 15 year in and year in for total supercomputing power.
i live in MS so thats why i ask.:)
back a while back i made 3 predictions.. 2 of which i remember and 1 so far has come true. the first was that SGI would file bankruptcy, the 2nd would be the PS3 would not be released this year. again this was at the beginning of the year. where can i go and look and comments made by me beyond the first 50? i would love to give that link.. thanks.
Something about high tech companies really baffles me. There is a LOT, i do mean A LOT of top talent other than people that live in NY or Seattle. Theres also a LOT of people with great talent that didnt go to cal poly or MIT.
Theres lot of talent in the midwest and there is TONS of talent in the south..and the deep south. Just because you think that Mississippi, Alabama or Louisiana, for example, is filled with a bunch of rednecks doesnt mean its so. Yes its more rural and there are a lot of "rednecks", farmers and cattle ranchers but thanks to that we all can have fresh food on the table where a lot of food are grown in these areas. but theres a secret for all you recruiters...
There is also a lot of talent, high tech talent in these areas..mostly in the "bigger" places, you wont find them in the middle of a corn crop. they will be in the areas of universities and research facilities.. think Huntsville, AL.. think southern mississippi such as Hattiesburg,MS or the Gulf Coast where there is a lot of hi tech research going on. Mississippi for example is ranked in the top 10 in total supercomputing power..imagine that. Who runs these supercomputers? who manages the databases and who are the programmers that do the real work on these systems. they are there. but theres a catch..
they wont go to Seattle, or San Fran or NYC. why? because its almost all sunshine year round. because they have families they dont want to leave. because the cost of living is less and its less fast paced(relatively speaking). example.. come down to the south in November.. mid to upper 70's, clear skies, sunshine. now go to Seattle. mid to upper 40's, rainy, gloomy, hardly no sunshine etc. maybe seattle is not a fair example because its rainy and gloomy for most of the year but i hope you get the point i am trying to make. So anyway how do you get hold of this talent might you ask?
This will actually solve 2 problems. Take part of your business and move down to the south. thats right.. set up shop there. Silly? no.. not at all. You could pay top talent, a programmer for example $50K - $60K start for example instead of what you would pay for the same guy in seattle or NYC.. which is about i would guess $120K. a 2 Bedroom in Manhatten probably runs about $3000 a month and the size of probably 1/4th the size of a normal house someone would want to live in in the south. for 3 times the square feet someone can buy a house and pay $1000 a month lets say in Huntsville,AL. to move to NYC and bear all those extra expenses..well that is too much to ask.. or live out in the burbs of NYC and go in debt to live in an actual house. so anyway i digress...if you move a shop down there you would not only save tons of money you would also NOT have to outsource because you can pay less there.
there has been talk of this a little bit on the net that i have seen.. its name is rural outsourcing. I cant believe more companies havent taken advtantage of this. Its like they think all the talent is in 2 or 3 areas. That's a little closed minded IMO. Perhaps all the top talent is gone from the normally high tech areas..maybe either they all have their own businesses or they already have work.. and arent leaving. Maybe thats why it's getting harder to find them.
[quote]that question is actually a crisis management response question. The want to know what you will do in an emergency.[/quote]
see to me, this isnt even an emergency situation. why? because i am not stressed out about it.. because my response back to them after i find out there is nothing in the cupboard is, "i just got home from work, pick up your own food on the way here cos i am not cooking this late" or "i am tired can you come another time?". either way its not an emergency to me because i am not just going allow people to just say they are coming over.. i want people that are at least going to be courteous and ask if i would like to get together instead of just coming over without asking.
what possibly could anything do to harm that they tell each people what the bandwidth is? how can they not be held liable for people exceeding the limit but have no idea what the limit is because for some reason, it's a government secret.
"Employees face not only job loss but the indignity of training their off shore replacements."
i know how to handle this. tell your boss or manager AND/OR IBM to shove it. tell them you WILL NOT train the very person who is going to replace your job for the sheer means of satisfying the stockholders. if they want the cheap labor that bad, then let them figure out how to train them and pay for them to be trained themselves.. and try to do that from 5,000+ miles away. then let's see how they feel about offshoring.
the beginning of a real terminator....
is there a patent on thinking yet?
remind me again how or why comcast can keep competitors out? i thought we were all about competition?
yes everyones situation is different
my employer is a start up and doesnt offer company roth IRA or traditional IRA funds but they do offer pre-tax 401K.. a hefty 15% of my salary per year whether i contribute anything or not(and i do). after age 55 1/2 i will be able to withdraw the money if i am no longer with the company tax-free.
actually you arent taxed when you save it..as far as IRA's and 401k retirement plans go. if your employer for instance has a retirement age of 55 1/2 you can retire on your 401k without the tax penalty if you left it in that long. if you withdraw before that then yes you will be taxed with a penalty. i think the IRA/Roth IRA is either 55 1/2 or 59 1/2 i am not sure.
my advice? pay off all your bills as possible then contribute the maximum your employer will give you towards your 401K and at the very least match it. your tax bracket will be lower and the federal gov't will get less from you.
so even if someone doesnt have TiVO and they dont flip the channel on commercials how do they still know that people are REALLY watching? for all they know people could be out of the room, talking on the phone, taking a dump or reading the paper or book while putting the commercials on mute.
about people that have TiVO, why is TiVO allowing the advertisers to know when people do this anyway? how much money does it take to buy TiVO and its initial rules of total privacy by the viewer?
to just call dell up and say right off the bat, "look i dont want aol free trial, i dont want musicmatch, Dell E Support, or anything else other than win xp because i will not be using any of it." would they just ignore me and not meet my request?
i dont want all that crap. i am buying from them and therefore i should get the say. i say if someone specifically asked for not to have all that bloat then whats the problem in meeting that?
Maybe Apple can represent the next Good Guy Doll(TM).
"Hi my name is Chucky and i'm your friend to the end...Howdy HO! HA HA HA HA HA"
i reinstalled my WIN XP Pro system after getting a DELL. i went out and got a win xp disk cheap instead of using DELL's. knowing dell the HD format was for IDE and therefore when i put my new flasy HD in the computer and started to reinstall winXP it didnt understand this format so it asked for the SATA driver on my FLOPPY disk.
here is the solution:
when you go into the BIOS there is an option to boot using different "modes". i forget now because its been a while. switch from "single" mode i think is the default and pick "Combination". the BIOS will look at the SATA HD when installing the OS and recognize the SATA format thus not having to worry about getting add on converters. hope all this makes sense. its been a while so i may have missed a step.
yes i do know a couple of people that work at google. they say that the 20% working on your own thing per week is at best a myth and is consumed with work that needs to be done and more than often than not that requires more than 40 hours. maybe you have it better off i dont know. when you say "free the engineers from having to worry about dry cleaning" that makes me somehow translate that into "because you dont have to worry about all these things we offer you "there is more time for you to be at work and more of a chance youll stay to work longer instead of going home"
the free meals is a cool thing and bringing your pet to work but the idea i was trying to make was doing things OUTSIDE of work. for instance i would rather do my laundry at home. thats what i bought a washer and dryer for. then as my clothes wash i dry i dont have to go back to my cube. i can be at the house doing other things i would rather do. you might not mind missing dinner, missing going to work out on schedule, missing spending quality time at home, etc etc but i guess it all comes down to priorities.
and the cost of living far outweighs the pay in silicon valley and for that matter NYC, Seattle, etc. i am making 60K in south Mississippi. the cost of living is what..maybe 3 times the amount? would i make $180K for the same work in northern cali? i highly doubt it.
well i live on the gulf coast, near Biloxi and it was 70 as the high today, the sun was out, no clouds..t-shirts and jeans. that is the average around here for late december/early january. if youve lived in florida then you know what i am talking about. maybe florida has a bit more rain i dont know. maybe i exaggerated just a bit. maybe 275-300 days of full sunshine. unless we have our normal tropical storms like we can get or if its about to rain, i can still see the sun and get some sunlight which is always nice.
if you live in the south(as i do) and are used to roughly 300+ days of sunshine a year with 9 months of that being labeled as summertime then that can be quite a turnoff.
personally i would do nothing. i would sit on my ass all day and do nothing.
if you are single with no family and want to work all your life and spend most of what you earn on outrageous housing costs, higher taxes, and urban sprawl then google is the place for you. Just like most of northern cali/simi valley/san fran the culture is also secluded and anti-social. how many couples walking on the sidewalks do you see? or people walking their dogs? heaven forbid i get a flat tire or run out of gas. i'll be walking to the gas station on my own.
if you have a family and they are first in your life above anything else(including work), want to save and not throw money away on outrageous housing costs and want privacy without having to drive one hour one way to work then google is not the place for you even if you could get a job there.
more people are figuring out that they dont want to work 50 or 60 hours a week because they want to do other things, stay healthy and just have a life outside of work. most people dont want to work where they feel like they live in China and Japan, where workers typically work 70 hour weeks, but of course their country works and thats all it does, yet where is the reward? It's hard to enjoy rewards in life that you earn if you are too busy working. Our culture has turned into the mindset slowly and on a different scale of china. that to be successful we have to work all the time and nothing else comes before it, including family. I am not sure where or when this trend started.
there is a reason why we have weekends and a reason why most people dont work more than 40 hours a week. its to take a breather from work so we can refresh. its also a reason that people have burnout and productivity decreases. In google's case there are enough people that want to work for them that have the mindset that google is their life and that is why google provides things like laundromats, bringing your pets to work, 3 gourmet meals and swimming pools. if people just wanted to go home for lunch and promptly go home after 5 or 6 pm then what would the need be to offer all these ameneties? think about that one for a moment.
I know that they have offices in NYC and Seattle as well as sporatic jobs here and there but NYC and Seattle is the same as Simi Valley/Mountain View -- that is heavy traffic, no privacy(unless you want to drive 1 hour one way to work), up to the sky housing costs and taxes and living in a culture where everyone wants to work their whole life and thus they think their employees should have the same attitude. Trying to not to sound too stereotypical i am sure there are other smaller places in these areas that at least offer stable working conditions.
In Seattle's case i dont know how in the world all these tech companies keep people in that area. Traffic is still heavy but most of all for me i just cant bear the thought of at most 3 months of sunshine and cold rainy winters. I was there in november 2 years ago and the sun did come out 2 days out of the week(the rest of the week it was raining) but you still couldnt see the sun because it was so overcast. Maybe theres a reason why it's the #1 suicidal city in the country.
part of the problem here is that everything thinks that Disney/ABC is conservative. maybe in a few aspects of the business but hardly the predominate ethics and morale that one true conservative organization would take...i.e. gay day at the Disney Theme Park.. not even close to being conservative. Also take into account this is in San Francisco..not exactly the most conservative place in the world.
as a disclaimer i live in the south so ill add a few more things (since it doesnt look like like Slashdot will ever give us an edit button).
i will echo was Al Diamond side. why is it in the northwest people are so cold/anti-social/cruel/? maybe i am just used to the 'southern hospitality' or maybe people are always just too busy to be nice. they are caught up in their own world with no thought for anyone else. this is easily seen with hardly anyone walking their dogs, their kids, their spouses. i saw a couple of loners walking but not much else.
i also visited Seattle for week when i went to a conference up there a couple of years ago. i dont know which place is worse. i never fully understood why Seattle was the #1 Suicidal capital of the world until i got there to visit. people are almost as cold/calice/rude but not quite as much. I dont know how anyone wants to live in a city with 3 months(max) of sun each year not to mention cold a lot. to be fair i went in November but i left depressed and sad..maybe thats somehow linked to the suicides i dont know. i guess if you are used to 9 months of summer and out of 365 days, 300+ of full sunshine there is no comparison.
if you are looking for a tech job take a look at some jobs(although not as many) in the south. not all the cool jobs are in simi valley, NYC or San Fran. as i said before housing will cost 1/100th of what you pay there and youll get more for your money. people are also more friendly.
i havent visited Chicago but i hear it can be very nice(minus all the cold weather). NYC is another place i havent visited but i know for a fact i would not live there. how people live in 1,000 sq foot homes worth $500,000 thats about the size of my living room alone is beyond my comprehension.
of course you could find a nice job in the south/deep south close to the beach/ocean/etc and it never snows, no earthquakes and it will be 70 here tomorrow. of course youll have to live with the occasional hurricane and/or tornado but cost of living is 1/100th of the bay area/simi valley etc etc... AND for the most part its not the urban sprawl that you are used..with of course a few exceptions.. Orlando comes to mind.
he doesnt have a 30" Inch LCD screen as his computer monitor and a dual-core GeForce 7900 GTX with 512 MB RAM and a 7.1 Surround Sound System.
are you in Mississippi?? Mississippi has been constantly in the top 10 or 15 year in and year in for total supercomputing power. i live in MS so thats why i ask. :)
back a while back i made 3 predictions.. 2 of which i remember and 1 so far has come true. the first was that SGI would file bankruptcy, the 2nd would be the PS3 would not be released this year. again this was at the beginning of the year. where can i go and look and comments made by me beyond the first 50? i would love to give that link.. thanks.
evidently you havent played Ghost 'n Goblins for the original NES. get ready to throw your controller and throw often...
Something about high tech companies really baffles me. There is a LOT, i do mean A LOT of top talent other than people that live in NY or Seattle. Theres also a LOT of people with great talent that didnt go to cal poly or MIT.
Theres lot of talent in the midwest and there is TONS of talent in the south..and the deep south. Just because you think that Mississippi, Alabama or Louisiana, for example, is filled with a bunch of rednecks doesnt mean its so. Yes its more rural and there are a lot of "rednecks", farmers and cattle ranchers but thanks to that we all can have fresh food on the table where a lot of food are grown in these areas. but theres a secret for all you recruiters...
There is also a lot of talent, high tech talent in these areas..mostly in the "bigger" places, you wont find them in the middle of a corn crop. they will be in the areas of universities and research facilities.. think Huntsville, AL.. think southern mississippi such as Hattiesburg,MS or the Gulf Coast where there is a lot of hi tech research going on. Mississippi for example is ranked in the top 10 in total supercomputing power..imagine that. Who runs these supercomputers? who manages the databases and who are the programmers that do the real work on these systems. they are there. but theres a catch..
they wont go to Seattle, or San Fran or NYC. why? because its almost all sunshine year round. because they have families they dont want to leave. because the cost of living is less and its less fast paced(relatively speaking). example.. come down to the south in November.. mid to upper 70's, clear skies, sunshine. now go to Seattle. mid to upper 40's, rainy, gloomy, hardly no sunshine etc. maybe seattle is not a fair example because its rainy and gloomy for most of the year but i hope you get the point i am trying to make. So anyway how do you get hold of this talent might you ask?
This will actually solve 2 problems. Take part of your business and move down to the south. thats right.. set up shop there. Silly? no.. not at all. You could pay top talent, a programmer for example $50K - $60K start for example instead of what you would pay for the same guy in seattle or NYC.. which is about i would guess $120K. a 2 Bedroom in Manhatten probably runs about $3000 a month and the size of probably 1/4th the size of a normal house someone would want to live in in the south. for 3 times the square feet someone can buy a house and pay $1000 a month lets say in Huntsville,AL. to move to NYC and bear all those extra expenses..well that is too much to ask.. or live out in the burbs of NYC and go in debt to live in an actual house. so anyway i digress...if you move a shop down there you would not only save tons of money you would also NOT have to outsource because you can pay less there.
there has been talk of this a little bit on the net that i have seen.. its name is rural outsourcing. I cant believe more companies havent taken advtantage of this. Its like they think all the talent is in 2 or 3 areas. That's a little closed minded IMO. Perhaps all the top talent is gone from the normally high tech areas..maybe either they all have their own businesses or they already have work.. and arent leaving. Maybe thats why it's getting harder to find them.
[quote]that question is actually a crisis management response question. The want to know what you will do in an emergency.[/quote]
see to me, this isnt even an emergency situation. why? because i am not stressed out about it.. because my response back to them after i find out there is nothing in the cupboard is, "i just got home from work, pick up your own food on the way here cos i am not cooking this late" or "i am tired can you come another time?". either way its not an emergency to me because i am not just going allow people to just say they are coming over.. i want people that are at least going to be courteous and ask if i would like to get together instead of just coming over without asking.