Maybe they should fine AT&T/Lucent $2500 for every box of cable they ship out.
Maybe they should fine Best Buy and Staples for not asking every customer buying an ethernet cable or network card, wireless access point, router or monitor if they're going to use it to traffic in P2P!
Maybe they should fine TRANE air management systems $2500 for not ensuring that they fail inject enough valence ions into every heat exchanger system installed in public places to skew wireless signals...
Maybe they should fine the power commission $2500 for every customer they supply electricity to for not ensuring that the power will not be used to power a computer to communicate for the purposes of trafficing in P2P!
The new Craftsman X-25 flat #2 screwdriver: Bill SB-96 compliant. "We have taken precautions to ensure that this screwdriver meets the requirements of 'reasonable care' to ensure that it may not be used to committ a crime. The screwdriver head will spontaneously turn into molten steel if you do not call you local enforcement office an obtain a license for any of the following activities: jimmying, scraping, prying, lifting or plain old screwdriving. If you are not sure, please contact your local enforcement office.
Note: Only works with sDRM-(screwDriver Rights Management) compliant screwheads.
I did not RTFA!!!! Shuttle's not making the board, they've gotten out of the business. Now, that doesn't mean that the BTX system is OK, because their track record with their mini PCs isn't great, though the motherboard still seemed to be the weakest link. Definitively worth investigating further, in any case. (not pun intended)
Thanks, though watch my next comment to the reply to my first message......
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For a simple home server, I'd recommend the following:
AOpen (yes, AOpen, they use SPI power supplies, very tough) 340D cases, very nice and reasonably well made for a good price.
or:
Antec ARIA case, a bit more expensive, but quiet, and very cool looking, also cool temeperature wise because of the aluminum construction.
Asus or Intel motherboard. Believe it or not, the Intel boards are reasonably priced (at least when compared to Tier I like Asus, Supermicro, etc....)
Then, you can pick and choose other components such as HD, optical drives, etc.... and chances are you're not going got get stuck with a Realtek NIC on-board.
For what it's worth, we build industrial servers and CPE PCs for companies deploying all across North America and the world. In their case, an extra $100 on a system for increased MTBF is worth it.... not sure what your case is.
As far as the shuttle stuff, we've noticed a huge number of these coming back over the years. We stopped selling them long ago because of inital quality, but out-of-warranty claims from the competition on personal use has been staggering lately with regard to the voltage regulators in front of the CPU.... litteraly, they blow the CPUs because of bad regulation and introduction of off-frequency ripple.
I'm guessing this is a preliminary strike. First South Korea, then the world. Samsung will sell their defective LCD panels as OEM parts to other off-brands for use. Samsung is FROM South Korea, it only makes sense. Also, they have to get rid of old stock around the world before they can cover this issue worldwide.
I distinctly remember reading in Dickinson, Sagan and Clarke books back in the 80s that Olympus was an active volcano. The "largest active volcano in the solar system".
Who wants to bet that Microsoft is watching these developments very closely? All things told, they have been quite cooperative given the piracy level of their software. I get in fights with them all the time about valid IDs not working because of a failed motherboard in an OEM system or becuase of an added video card or some other component messing up the install ID, but they finally give in and release a working activation code.
Out of the gate, there's no way Microsoft can win by being the big brother overlord, especially when we're talking productivity software (OK, OK, a joke's a joke) as opposed to entertertainment, no matter that funds have changed hands, butwe all know that they will be getting better and better at license authentication.
OK, let me get this straight..... 20 billionths of a second..... In order to fit 4 bits (assuming 4 bit words as laser commands, best-case scenario, and assuming serial) in as the laser is firing..... you would need 160GHz bandwidth, plus the overhead of the actual "data" to get through. I don't think ribbon cable is quite capable of this inside a printer.
Combined with the "millimeter sized" dots, I think we have an extreme exaggeration of the facts.... I don't think we can trust the "about every inch" on the page either. More investigation is required.
We concentrated on service, both in the true sense of the word, ie: repair and installation and in "customer service", ie: returns, troubleshooting, minor installation support, etc...
If the customer didn't like the price, they were welcome to shop elsewhere and deal with returns and installation support in any way they pleased. We made virtually no money on hardware: on sales of $3M, we barely paid for one employee handling that part.
At no time did we ever violate a customer's "rights" to abuse the law. We simply denied him access to our services and products in order to continue abusing them. This may have skirted the law, but he was welcome to file suit against us. I gave someone the number for the lawyer referral line once. (don't get me wrong, these were extreme cases, 1 out or 1000 -- if they had freinds they would tell, that would save us the trouble.)
They're not making $1500. Now, in the clothing, margins are quite high, I agree, but let's say they're making $1200 gross. If the merchandise is returned, they restock and sell. After their overhead kicks in (returning stock is VERY expensive, except in some circumstances, as in same-day returns) they're lucky to hit $600-$700 IF they sell all the merchanise. It also messes up the numbers for the day, week, month, quarter, etc... And it's usually the local store that gets the blame for this, not head office checking in.
After running a PC parts store for a few years, I got totally fed up with people thinking I was making a killing off stock. I buy an HD for $80, sell it for $105-$110. Some guy returns the thing a week later. By the time the week rolls by, it has depreciated by $10.00. Also, the next customer coming in to buy the think complains it's used. Out the door for $75.00. If it breaks within the warranty period, I've just lost about $50.00 or more, because the customer with the dead HD gets a replacement on the spot or next day. Even though the HD has depreciated in a year to costing $60, I've got to come up with the funds out of cash flow.
Part of this problem is the internet and eBay deluding people into thinking that they can buy equipment and supplies at prices lower then we can buy them at wholesale. I had one guy tell another customer that the copy of MS Office 200 Pro I was selling for $325 was a rip-off, that I was making $250 on it, becuase he can get it online for $50.00. I was making $30.00 on the software, and that was because it was already in stock and I was paying no shipping to get it here.
The end result is that we have to pick and choose our customers carefully. There were some customers who got blacklisted locally: I would call 2-3 other stores around and tell them the latest story about him before he got to them after trying to wrangle a deal out of me, and they would do the same for me. He caught on and got very angry. One time this particular guy swore he was going to get the police involved. I dialed the number for him and handed him the phone.
Maybe Microsoft should go back to what it does best: Selling reliable, affordable and cutting-edge software. This hardware thing just isn't panning out as planned.
Locution: The act of transforming Captain Picard into Locutus.
And M$ software does not contain any backdoors? If M$ and the (rest) of the proprietary/closed-source/hood-welded-shut consortium is going ot make accusations of this nature, they should be able to back up their stance with, at the very least, an opposite and proveable condition in their own software.
No effect at all. JVC invented the VHS standard, it's small market share was not signifigant in it's adoption. Phillips invented the redbook audio CD, it's influence is miniscule today, or even 15 years ago.
The main reason to dump.doc and.xls is.... patents. I think we can all see where Microsoft's game plan is headed at the moment. Longhorn will lock in the Microsoft world to just that, Microsoft and all associated products. They tried it with IE (frontpage, non-compliance with WC3, etc...), but it didn't catch (not fully, anyway, as MS wanted it to). Now, they're trying the Apple approach: closed standards, at least as far as the breadth of the stardard is. Developers will be permitted, under the new patents the MS are investing in at a furious rate, to develop utilities and methodoligies to interoperate with MS formats, as long as those formats are used within a MS application. The.doc and.xls formats will be phased out and replaced with a new standard file format put forth my MS, forced down our throats, as it were, by the new office applcations. The same will happen to networking standards, to combat Samba. We have to get new, universal standards that are not reliant on Microsoft, and force Microsoft to adhere to them, because they will find themselves in a position unable to only conform to their piece of the pie, and not the rest of the world, which is slowly but surely moving away from MS. They'd patent the english language and bar open standards from being released in english if they thought it possible.
What next? "System for looking up bank balances & transfering currency on-line" "System for verifying stock levels for multi-location distributor"?
This is getting out of hand.
The phone company (Bell) will eventually win, jacking up prices at this suggestion for the supposed costs involved in the physicaly act of wiretapping. The government can't win, as it has a) the Bell Canada lobby against it and b) the canadian public totally against it. Eventually, these fees will be hidden in the cost of the phone service, per line, with no explanation, except that the fees will be diverted to a waretapping fund.
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Maybe they should fine AT&T/Lucent $2500 for every box of cable they ship out. Maybe they should fine Best Buy and Staples for not asking every customer buying an ethernet cable or network card, wireless access point, router or monitor if they're going to use it to traffic in P2P! Maybe they should fine TRANE air management systems $2500 for not ensuring that they fail inject enough valence ions into every heat exchanger system installed in public places to skew wireless signals... Maybe they should fine the power commission $2500 for every customer they supply electricity to for not ensuring that the power will not be used to power a computer to communicate for the purposes of trafficing in P2P!
The new Craftsman X-25 flat #2 screwdriver: Bill SB-96 compliant. "We have taken precautions to ensure that this screwdriver meets the requirements of 'reasonable care' to ensure that it may not be used to committ a crime. The screwdriver head will spontaneously turn into molten steel if you do not call you local enforcement office an obtain a license for any of the following activities: jimmying, scraping, prying, lifting or plain old screwdriving. If you are not sure, please contact your local enforcement office. Note: Only works with sDRM-(screwDriver Rights Management) compliant screwheads.
I hope the firewalls can withstand the US Government's news censorship attacks.....
I did not RTFA!!!! Shuttle's not making the board, they've gotten out of the business. Now, that doesn't mean that the BTX system is OK, because their track record with their mini PCs isn't great, though the motherboard still seemed to be the weakest link. Definitively worth investigating further, in any case. (not pun intended)
Thanks, though watch my next comment to the reply to my first message......
For a simple home server, I'd recommend the following: AOpen (yes, AOpen, they use SPI power supplies, very tough) 340D cases, very nice and reasonably well made for a good price. or: Antec ARIA case, a bit more expensive, but quiet, and very cool looking, also cool temeperature wise because of the aluminum construction. Asus or Intel motherboard. Believe it or not, the Intel boards are reasonably priced (at least when compared to Tier I like Asus, Supermicro, etc....) Then, you can pick and choose other components such as HD, optical drives, etc.... and chances are you're not going got get stuck with a Realtek NIC on-board. For what it's worth, we build industrial servers and CPE PCs for companies deploying all across North America and the world. In their case, an extra $100 on a system for increased MTBF is worth it.... not sure what your case is. As far as the shuttle stuff, we've noticed a huge number of these coming back over the years. We stopped selling them long ago because of inital quality, but out-of-warranty claims from the competition on personal use has been staggering lately with regard to the voltage regulators in front of the CPU.... litteraly, they blow the CPUs because of bad regulation and introduction of off-frequency ripple.
Quality? From SHUTTLE? These are the guys who send wave after wave of CPU destroying VRMs on their boards. 6 months, dead CPU...
I'm guessing this is a preliminary strike. First South Korea, then the world. Samsung will sell their defective LCD panels as OEM parts to other off-brands for use. Samsung is FROM South Korea, it only makes sense. Also, they have to get rid of old stock around the world before they can cover this issue worldwide.
I distinctly remember reading in Dickinson, Sagan and Clarke books back in the 80s that Olympus was an active volcano. The "largest active volcano in the solar system".
DO NOT let George Lucas NEAR the things.
Who wants to bet that Microsoft is watching these developments very closely? All things told, they have been quite cooperative given the piracy level of their software. I get in fights with them all the time about valid IDs not working because of a failed motherboard in an OEM system or becuase of an added video card or some other component messing up the install ID, but they finally give in and release a working activation code.
Out of the gate, there's no way Microsoft can win by being the big brother overlord, especially when we're talking productivity software (OK, OK, a joke's a joke) as opposed to entertertainment, no matter that funds have changed hands, butwe all know that they will be getting better and better at license authentication.
OK, let me get this straight..... 20 billionths of a second..... In order to fit 4 bits (assuming 4 bit words as laser commands, best-case scenario, and assuming serial) in as the laser is firing..... you would need 160GHz bandwidth, plus the overhead of the actual "data" to get through. I don't think ribbon cable is quite capable of this inside a printer.
Combined with the "millimeter sized" dots, I think we have an extreme exaggeration of the facts.... I don't think we can trust the "about every inch" on the page either. More investigation is required.
We concentrated on service, both in the true sense of the word, ie: repair and installation and in "customer service", ie: returns, troubleshooting, minor installation support, etc...
If the customer didn't like the price, they were welcome to shop elsewhere and deal with returns and installation support in any way they pleased. We made virtually no money on hardware: on sales of $3M, we barely paid for one employee handling that part.
At no time did we ever violate a customer's "rights" to abuse the law. We simply denied him access to our services and products in order to continue abusing them. This may have skirted the law, but he was welcome to file suit against us. I gave someone the number for the lawyer referral line once. (don't get me wrong, these were extreme cases, 1 out or 1000 -- if they had freinds they would tell, that would save us the trouble.)
Gotta agree with you on both points!
They're not making $1500. Now, in the clothing, margins are quite high, I agree, but let's say they're making $1200 gross. If the merchandise is returned, they restock and sell. After their overhead kicks in (returning stock is VERY expensive, except in some circumstances, as in same-day returns) they're lucky to hit $600-$700 IF they sell all the merchanise. It also messes up the numbers for the day, week, month, quarter, etc... And it's usually the local store that gets the blame for this, not head office checking in. After running a PC parts store for a few years, I got totally fed up with people thinking I was making a killing off stock. I buy an HD for $80, sell it for $105-$110. Some guy returns the thing a week later. By the time the week rolls by, it has depreciated by $10.00. Also, the next customer coming in to buy the think complains it's used. Out the door for $75.00. If it breaks within the warranty period, I've just lost about $50.00 or more, because the customer with the dead HD gets a replacement on the spot or next day. Even though the HD has depreciated in a year to costing $60, I've got to come up with the funds out of cash flow. Part of this problem is the internet and eBay deluding people into thinking that they can buy equipment and supplies at prices lower then we can buy them at wholesale. I had one guy tell another customer that the copy of MS Office 200 Pro I was selling for $325 was a rip-off, that I was making $250 on it, becuase he can get it online for $50.00. I was making $30.00 on the software, and that was because it was already in stock and I was paying no shipping to get it here. The end result is that we have to pick and choose our customers carefully. There were some customers who got blacklisted locally: I would call 2-3 other stores around and tell them the latest story about him before he got to them after trying to wrangle a deal out of me, and they would do the same for me. He caught on and got very angry. One time this particular guy swore he was going to get the police involved. I dialed the number for him and handed him the phone.
Maybe Microsoft should go back to what it does best: Selling reliable, affordable and cutting-edge software. This hardware thing just isn't panning out as planned. Locution: The act of transforming Captain Picard into Locutus.
Hello, this is Alec Baldwin from the Film Actor's Guild. If you don't believe it's me, look at the Caller ID. You'll see our acronym!
Let's see them predict the weather.....
And M$ software does not contain any backdoors? If M$ and the (rest) of the proprietary/closed-source/hood-welded-shut consortium is going ot make accusations of this nature, they should be able to back up their stance with, at the very least, an opposite and proveable condition in their own software.
Useless...... Realplayer.....BBC world as well.
No effect at all. JVC invented the VHS standard, it's small market share was not signifigant in it's adoption. Phillips invented the redbook audio CD, it's influence is miniscule today, or even 15 years ago.
The main reason to dump .doc and .xls is.... patents. I think we can all see where Microsoft's game plan is headed at the moment. Longhorn will lock in the Microsoft world to just that, Microsoft and all associated products. They tried it with IE (frontpage, non-compliance with WC3, etc...), but it didn't catch (not fully, anyway, as MS wanted it to). Now, they're trying the Apple approach: closed standards, at least as far as the breadth of the stardard is. Developers will be permitted, under the new patents the MS are investing in at a furious rate, to develop utilities and methodoligies to interoperate with MS formats, as long as those formats are used within a MS application. The .doc and .xls formats will be phased out and replaced with a new standard file format put forth my MS, forced down our throats, as it were, by the new office applcations. The same will happen to networking standards, to combat Samba. We have to get new, universal standards that are not reliant on Microsoft, and force Microsoft to adhere to them, because they will find themselves in a position unable to only conform to their piece of the pie, and not the rest of the world, which is slowly but surely moving away from MS. They'd patent the english language and bar open standards from being released in english if they thought it possible.
What next? "System for looking up bank balances & transfering currency on-line" "System for verifying stock levels for multi-location distributor"? This is getting out of hand.
The phone company (Bell) will eventually win, jacking up prices at this suggestion for the supposed costs involved in the physicaly act of wiretapping. The government can't win, as it has a) the Bell Canada lobby against it and b) the canadian public totally against it. Eventually, these fees will be hidden in the cost of the phone service, per line, with no explanation, except that the fees will be diverted to a waretapping fund.