I still have the CD's I bought in 1996 along with my first CD player when I was 16. As for the MP3's I downloaded two years ago, most of them are either lost on a backup somewhere, or have been lost in a hard drive crash or lost as directories i forgot to copy over in an OS upgrade.
A lot of people don't even bother to read the damn word. A COPYRIGHT gives you the exclusive RIGHT to distribute COPIES of a work. The only restriction on the use of a copyrighted work should be just that.
I bought it, have no intention of listening to it. I saw it as paying $2 not for a song but to make the point that I'm willing to legitimately purchase music as long as it doesn't have DRM.
I noticed emachineshop doesn't list example prices for any of their example parts. A simple washer came to $130. They wanted something like $800 for a steel plate with holes cut in it (for a test tube rack). I guess it's still useful, but I find it hard to believe I couldn't get a better deal talking to a machinist in person. In fact, considering I would need two plates, it would be cheaper to just buy a milling machine.
Yeah, but I don't want to pay the maximum amount of money I'm willing to pay, I want to pay the minimum amount I can get away with.
If everyone does proxy bidding, you end up paying one dollar more than what anyone else was willing to pay. If everyone snipes, you end up paying $1 more than what the next guy thought he could get away with.
Maybe iTMS hasn't been out longer than the life of a hard disk. I know I was pretty irritated when my HD crashed, and purchased music backups became useless. It would affect anybody the same way.
I tell everyone, all the time DON'T GO TO THE FUCKING MOVIES, DON'T BUY ANY CD'S, AND DON'T BUY ANY GODDAMN DVD'S, and if *most* of us on/. just did that much DRM would go away.
Most people on/. already pirate all their shit anyway. The point is that it doesn't matter what the people that care about it think if 99% of people don't.
The most expensive part of bringing a drug to market, by far, isn't developing the drug, it's leading it through FDA trials. Drugs would be dirt cheap if they didn't have to be approved for sale by the government.
I remember hearing a similar complaint about AOL years ago, where people who had gotten the "1000 free hours for a month" thing signed up, and tried to cancel. This time, they were told they were cancelled, but weren't... and started getting charged automatically.
Yeah, I think that the RIAA needs to realize that the ability to pirate shit will ALWAYS be available, whether they like it or not. Their only opportunity is to at least give people the opportunity to pay for it. If they sold DRM-free lossless audio at 99 cents a track, people would buy it. The DRM they require on purchased downloads does absolutely fuck-all to stop the people who are pirating it in the first place.
I would have a bit more respect for supporters of these sites if they actually admitted that what they like about them is getting stuff for free or for next to nothing.
I download songs from allofmp3 in FLAC format. They're actually not significantly cheaper than iTunes at this encoding.
I use allofmp3 because of the availability of lossless audio and the lack of DRM. I'd gladly pay what iTunes is charging if the files were lossless and did not have DRM. Some bands offer mp3's off-label on their own website, and I purchase those. (e.g. They Might Be Giants)
If we had been able to download high quality DRM-free copies of the first ever series of star trek, and none of us had paid a penny for them, then the show would have made a huge loss. No series II, no Next Gen, No Voyager. Apply this to whatever music / movie / book you really like.
Actually, Star Trek TOS was a commercial failure. wikipedia. The only thing that kept it on air for as long as it was (three seasons) was a fan-organized effort, the sort of thing that might be encouraged by having the show downloaded frequently on a P2P network.
Yeah, speaking of which, why isn't their an email filter that will filter out the however many billion variations of "Viagra" appear in my inbox every day?
This assesses consensus, not correctness. The two are often at odds with each other.
Sounds like the Bose speakers flamewars. The general consensus among the entire population is that they are great speakers, but the consensus among audio engineers is that they are garbage.
The wheel gets reinvented because if every game used the Source engine every game would play exactly like Half Life 2 and CounterStrike Source and DoD Source. If every game used the Doom III engine every game would play exactly like Doom III and Quake IV.
It's hard to imagine that Adventure Pinball plays exactly like Unreal Tournament, despite using the same engine.
Don't people generally buy stuff on the internet so they can avoid having to talk to some salesman on the phone?
I certainly don't miss the endless "Is that C as in Charlie, or E as in Echo?" bullshit I have to go through every time I have to do some phone transaction with a business that hasn't made it to the 90's yet.
Because the xbox actually works. People are still justafiably skeptical about MS products until they've been proven reliable. Besides, I think the grandparent was talking about some kind of moral objection. If you think microsoft is sufficiently evil, even if only because of Windows, you probably wouldn't buy an xbox whether it worked or not.
In 1974, Bushnell and Atari decided to develop a home version of PONG. Thanks to a marketing and distribution agreement with Sears, PONG sales soared by 1975. In 1977, Atari introduced the Atari 2600 VCS (Video Computer System), which revolutionized the home video game market, and began a new era in video game consoles. Demand for the unit was so great that Atari executives manned the production lines to help with the assembly and packaging during that first Christmas after its release. In 1976, Warner Communications (now Time Warner) bought Atari, and Bushnell was forced out of the company in 1978.
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more robust format?
I still have the CD's I bought in 1996 along with my first CD player when I was 16. As for the MP3's I downloaded two years ago, most of them are either lost on a backup somewhere, or have been lost in a hard drive crash or lost as directories i forgot to copy over in an OS upgrade.
COPYRIGHT.
A lot of people don't even bother to read the damn word. A COPYRIGHT gives you the exclusive RIGHT to distribute COPIES of a work. The only restriction on the use of a copyrighted work should be just that.
Exactly.
I bought it, have no intention of listening to it. I saw it as paying $2 not for a song but to make the point that I'm willing to legitimately purchase music as long as it doesn't have DRM.
Not really. When I think of standing up all day, I think retail floor, food service, and manual labor.
The whole reason I went to college is so I could get a job where I didn't have to stand up all day.
I noticed emachineshop doesn't list example prices for any of their example parts. A simple washer came to $130. They wanted something like $800 for a steel plate with holes cut in it (for a test tube rack). I guess it's still useful, but I find it hard to believe I couldn't get a better deal talking to a machinist in person. In fact, considering I would need two plates, it would be cheaper to just buy a milling machine.
Yeah, because Apple always releases the white version FIRST, and then the black version is the special one.
Yeah, but I don't want to pay the maximum amount of money I'm willing to pay, I want to pay the minimum amount I can get away with.
If everyone does proxy bidding, you end up paying one dollar more than what anyone else was willing to pay. If everyone snipes, you end up paying $1 more than what the next guy thought he could get away with.
Maybe iTMS hasn't been out longer than the life of a hard disk. I know I was pretty irritated when my HD crashed, and purchased music backups became useless. It would affect anybody the same way.
I tell everyone, all the time DON'T GO TO THE FUCKING MOVIES, DON'T BUY ANY CD'S, AND DON'T BUY ANY GODDAMN DVD'S, and if *most* of us on /. just did that much DRM would go away.
/. already pirate all their shit anyway. The point is that it doesn't matter what the people that care about it think if 99% of people don't.
Most people on
The most expensive part of bringing a drug to market, by far, isn't developing the drug, it's leading it through FDA trials. Drugs would be dirt cheap if they didn't have to be approved for sale by the government.
I remember hearing a similar complaint about AOL years ago, where people who had gotten the "1000 free hours for a month" thing signed up, and tried to cancel. This time, they were told they were cancelled, but weren't... and started getting charged automatically.
Doesn't the DRM prevent that?
Yeah, but if you stop paying full price, Jimi Hendrix will stop producing albums!
Yeah, I think that the RIAA needs to realize that the ability to pirate shit will ALWAYS be available, whether they like it or not. Their only opportunity is to at least give people the opportunity to pay for it. If they sold DRM-free lossless audio at 99 cents a track, people would buy it. The DRM they require on purchased downloads does absolutely fuck-all to stop the people who are pirating it in the first place.
I would have a bit more respect for supporters of these sites if they actually admitted that what they like about them is getting stuff for free or for next to nothing.
I download songs from allofmp3 in FLAC format. They're actually not significantly cheaper than iTunes at this encoding.
I use allofmp3 because of the availability of lossless audio and the lack of DRM. I'd gladly pay what iTunes is charging if the files were lossless and did not have DRM. Some bands offer mp3's off-label on their own website, and I purchase those. (e.g. They Might Be Giants)
If we had been able to download high quality DRM-free copies of the first ever series of star trek, and none of us had paid a penny for them, then the show would have made a huge loss. No series II, no Next Gen, No Voyager. Apply this to whatever music / movie / book you really like.
Actually, Star Trek TOS was a commercial failure. wikipedia. The only thing that kept it on air for as long as it was (three seasons) was a fan-organized effort, the sort of thing that might be encouraged by having the show downloaded frequently on a P2P network.
Yeah, speaking of which, why isn't their an email filter that will filter out the however many billion variations of "Viagra" appear in my inbox every day?
Super Mario Brothers 3 was $70 when it came out for the NES. If I recall, it was fairly successful.
This assesses consensus, not correctness. The two are often at odds with each other.
Sounds like the Bose speakers flamewars. The general consensus among the entire population is that they are great speakers, but the consensus among audio engineers is that they are garbage.
The wheel gets reinvented because if every game used the Source engine every game would play exactly like Half Life 2 and CounterStrike Source and DoD Source. If every game used the Doom III engine every game would play exactly like Doom III and Quake IV.
It's hard to imagine that Adventure Pinball plays exactly like Unreal Tournament, despite using the same engine.
Don't people generally buy stuff on the internet so they can avoid having to talk to some salesman on the phone?
I certainly don't miss the endless "Is that C as in Charlie, or E as in Echo?" bullshit I have to go through every time I have to do some phone transaction with a business that hasn't made it to the 90's yet.
Because the xbox actually works. People are still justafiably skeptical about MS products until they've been proven reliable. Besides, I think the grandparent was talking about some kind of moral objection. If you think microsoft is sufficiently evil, even if only because of Windows, you probably wouldn't buy an xbox whether it worked or not.
Are we openly praising these people?
Why not? The movie is openly praising Robert Langdon for violating the DMCA by circumventing the Catholics' encryption.
after all they never had a CEO whose name included the international symbol for "idiot" (Nolan BUSHnell anyone?)
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In 1974, Bushnell and Atari decided to develop a home version of PONG. Thanks to a marketing and distribution agreement with Sears, PONG sales soared by 1975. In 1977, Atari introduced the Atari 2600 VCS (Video Computer System), which revolutionized the home video game market, and began a new era in video game consoles. Demand for the unit was so great that Atari executives manned the production lines to help with the assembly and packaging during that first Christmas after its release. In 1976, Warner Communications (now Time Warner) bought Atari, and Bushnell was forced out of the company in 1978.