Yeah, I'm with you there. I've got 5 macs here at home (and an xserve hanging from the ceiling running a small enterprise). I'm a bit confused as to how I ended up getting modded flamebait, but I definitely wasn't talking bad about apple. My intended targets are the people who are going to whine about their device not working outside of att (the only place it was guaranteed to work in the first place). I'm guessing more than a few people with unlocked phones have too many mod points this morning.
btw before anyone mods me any further into hell, I was referring to the morality of breaking your phone and returning it at the expense of the manufacturer/credit card company, and not hacking the iphone.
And because Apple knew full well that people would want to hack the iPhone, and they should have tried to make the system safely hackable, even if they didn't want any users doing it.
That is some seriously flawed logic. Look, the iPhone was promised to only work on Cingular/Att. That's it. That's all. You had three simple choices.
a)buy iphone with att service b)buy iphone, unlock it, and bite the bullet c)don't buy iphone
Apple isn't obligated to do any of the things you mentioned. All Apple has done, is sell a device that works as advertised. That is their only obligation.
When I mentioned "morality" I was referring to voiding your warranty, ending up with a broken phone, then trying to return it/replace it at someone else's expense.
I do not consider unlocking an iphone to be immoral.
I think the unlocked iPhone owners are the ones not playing fair. THEY KNOWINGLY took the risk of bricking their iPhones when they unlocked them. They knew (or should have known) that the potential for the iphone to become unusable in the future existed.
If morality leaves the equation when a billion dollar corporation is on the other end, what makes you think fairness stayed? As far as I know, nothing requires Apple to sell you an iPhone at all. What isn't fair, is voiding your warranty then crying foul when it breaks.
I don't agree with bricking unlocked iphones, but you were warned.
In all the points you made just now, you neglected to mention one thing in your comparison. Apple told people they'd be doing those things. Microsoft doesn't.
Smart is irrelevant. It's the morality of it. If you went out and bought an iPhone and didn't plan on using att, this is what you get. They clearly state that the iphone will only work on their network. If you decide to prove that wrong and mess up your phone why should Apple and/or the credit card companies exchange your money/replace your iphone?
Maybe I should go spike mine down onto the pavement then return it for a replacement as well?
That sucks for the people that bought iphones specifically because they could be unlocked and used with anyone. On the other hand, it's been known for a while that the iPhone was going to be tied to a specific carrier.
I have a feeling that regardless of how many times someone comes up with a hack to unlock the iphone, there will always be something new to come along and give the tie in with att some sort of bright side. Kind of like how you only get the visual voicemail with att and not another carrier. I would expect to see new features rolled out as time goes on, giving additions to the iphone only to att customers, at least during the duration of their contract together.
Regardless of anything though, right or wrong, it's been widely known that the phones would be locked into att and if you purchased it to unlock it for another network you have nothing to complain about when the next update kills it.
I would like to begin begin by saying I almost completely agree with everything you've laid out here.
The problem is, and apologies to wherever it's been said before (I know it has been) is that when robots start fighting wars, it takes the consequences out of pulling the trigger. I have a few friends who have or are serving active duty in Iraq and while I would rather see a few hunks of metal and silicon take a bullet instead of them, I also fear the day when fighting wars and killing people becomes a video game where the consequences of pulling the trigger are seperated from real men in real harm. I don't know real armed combat, and for that I am glad, especially after seeing how my friends have changed when they've come home. At the same time, these men, have had to make hard decisions and have killed people. It takes it's toll, but that is part of war. When it's only machines at risk, fighting (especially for life and death) doesn't mean the same and to me only increases the chances/opportunities for anyone and everyone to start going to war.
With the technology availible, we're lucky that "terrorists" or "insurgents" haven't delved into the field of robotics. All things considered, it wouldn't be too hard to strap some kind of explosive to an RC car (or whatever remotely controlled servos) to detonate a bomb. If anything it shows how dumb the enemy is that they sacrifice men instead of machines to blow things up. Willing manpower is expendable to them, instead of bits of metal. In an era when a radio transmitter can be had for pennies at your local dollar store (in the form of a cheap piece of plastic RC car) they are still brainwashing humans to blow themselves up. This speaks volumes about either their lack of respect for human life (nice religion you're fighting to preserve... that should last long..) or exactly how well thought out their extended plans for warfare are.
Whatever the plans are of this enemy that uses people as bombs, it's short sighted and ultimately doomed to failure because they keep blowing up the ones most dedicated to their cause when better more expendable solutions exist, whether it's a cheap remote controlled car, or radio controlled switch.
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to the NSA/FBI should I put my hands against the wall for educating what seems to be a retarded enemy, or may I continue to live under your watchful eye?
While what you say is entirely possible, I would respectfully like to see some kind of link between this company and microsoft before we start throwing around the "Bill Gates wants all the money in the world" boogeyman. Please?
" (mobile data typically costs so you can't keep checking for updates)"
Typically, you'd be right, but with the phone, they do require the unlimited data plan, so checking for updates once a day, isn't really costing. As someone else has mentioned though, updates are delivered via iTunes.:)
I've been using Aperture since May of '06 on a 17" 1.67 G4 Powerbook with 1GB of RAM. When Aperture was first released performance was less than stellar working with RAW files, and from time to time it won't properly read some RAW files form longer exposures. There have been some great improvements in the software. You definately don't need bleeding edge hardware to run aperture. Just as much RAM as you can get stuffed into your machine. YMMV
While you may be correct (I guess if we want to settle whether or not the camera is capable/quality, we *COULD* check out the exif info), shutter speed and blur are irrelevant (in this case) since a flash was used in this photo, and would freeze any motion taking place. Don't believe me, go grab an old digital camera that has a flash on it and take a picture of a fan. That, or turn a strobe light to a relatively high speed in a dark room and move around.
All that aside, the reason that the fan isn't moving, is because that's a photo, not a video.
WMV hasn't worked for me (haven't really tried though) but I know some AVI's i have downloaded play just fine on my Intel Mac mini via front row. Just put the AVI files in your "Movies" directory and front row will find them. I would guess/hope that the Apple TV would work in a similar fashion.
You know, I was thinking about this the other evening, in regards to Second Life and Actual money. I'm curious how Second Life gets away with allowing unregulated gambling on servers hosted in the US, since in regards to gambling on SL, Lindens are nothing more than virtual Casino chips.
It's about time someone took notice of what is hopefully going ot be an emerging trend in the corporate world. Myself I administer a WAN of 10 user to about 7 machines. It used to be a commodity hardware+windows solution maintained by one person (me). I konw I'm opening myself up to a lot of criticism here, but for this small environment windows was a big problem. It's easy to say this, but securitywise it's a total PITA to be one guy administering a LAN/WAN of windows machines, especially when logins are shared (yes, bad I know... but we are small). Every other day I'd get calls about network issues or printers just disappearing for what seems to be without reason. A simple reboot would usually take care of whatever the problem was.
I think anyone reading slashdot would say that a reboot isn't such a big deal. I would tend to agree. I don't think the average person trying to enter in medical billing charges or look at a medical schedule of patients would agree however. In a service based industry, I am not a fan of keeping the customer any longer than ness. which means things just need to work. Something that windows was just not doing for me/our organization.
About a year and a half ago now, a friend came to me with a new 12" powerbook she had purchased with a question about configuring wireless networking. Apparently the (large enterprise) that she works for didn't have any IT staff skilled enough to figure out how to configure Airport to operate on their (windows centric) secure wireless network. So, sitting in her car in an Applebees parking lot I took a look at it (first time ever touching a mac with OS X on it) and had it figured and configured in about 30 seconds. I fell in love with it.
So after that short experience I did some reading and learning about how it works and what it is and isn't. I made a small leap. I gave my boss a 15" powerbook and ordered up a 17" powerbook for myself. After a couple of months and with the introduction of the mac mini and great pricing on the iMacs I had our organization switched to an all apple solution, and haven't had any issues with any of the machines running currently. In fact a windows application that we used to use for our medical billing and scheduling is now something holding us back, and to tackle that I use virtualization. Thankfully, the use of windows in a VM is for older patient accounts, since everything has been moved to a new mac based application ("Macpractice" if you're curious... We've been happy with it, as it runs on MySQL instead of PostgreSQL like our former application "Intergy" for those that want to know).
Even migrating everything to an Xserve just recently has proven painless and everything that I had running our enterprise on a G4 mac mini running tiger server migrated smoothly and only took a couple of hours of my time to get back to where it should be. The fact that the architechture changed (from G4 to Intel quad Xeon) wasn't even an issue. In fact the only issues I'm having at the moment is getting our legacy software back up and running in a VM so that we can continue to close out old accounts (as db conversion was cost prohibitive, so we still need to run it). And this is slightly trivial, since I don't need to run it in a VM, I just choose to, so I can take the former windows server and put it to use as a (free)NAS (server) somewhere else.
In summary, making the switch to Apple has left me with little to do outside of educating people to use only one mouse button and counseling them in their state of "culture shock" when confronted with somehting different than what they use at home or elsewhere. What I anticipated to be a hard switch has been more painless than upgrading to the latest version of windows. At the very least, I'm glad I'm salaried, otherwise I'd be making very little, considering how little I actually have to do anymore. To my windows counterparts (a friend of mine sells service contracts for PC's like craaazy), kudos to you for keeping the service industry alive.
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Yeah, I'm with you there. I've got 5 macs here at home (and an xserve hanging from the ceiling running a small enterprise). I'm a bit confused as to how I ended up getting modded flamebait, but I definitely wasn't talking bad about apple. My intended targets are the people who are going to whine about their device not working outside of att (the only place it was guaranteed to work in the first place). I'm guessing more than a few people with unlocked phones have too many mod points this morning.
btw before anyone mods me any further into hell, I was referring to the morality of breaking your phone and returning it at the expense of the manufacturer/credit card company, and not hacking the iphone.
if it's working 100%, I guess you won't be updating yours and you have nothing to worry about. :D
That is some seriously flawed logic. Look, the iPhone was promised to only work on Cingular/Att. That's it. That's all. You had three simple choices.
a)buy iphone with att service
b)buy iphone, unlock it, and bite the bullet
c)don't buy iphone
Apple isn't obligated to do any of the things you mentioned. All Apple has done, is sell a device that works as advertised. That is their only obligation.
When I mentioned "morality" I was referring to voiding your warranty, ending up with a broken phone, then trying to return it/replace it at someone else's expense.
I do not consider unlocking an iphone to be immoral.
I think the unlocked iPhone owners are the ones not playing fair. THEY KNOWINGLY took the risk of bricking their iPhones when they unlocked them. They knew (or should have known) that the potential for the iphone to become unusable in the future existed.
If morality leaves the equation when a billion dollar corporation is on the other end, what makes you think fairness stayed? As far as I know, nothing requires Apple to sell you an iPhone at all. What isn't fair, is voiding your warranty then crying foul when it breaks.
I don't agree with bricking unlocked iphones, but you were warned.
If you don't like AT&T don't get an iPhone. Nobody is forcing you to buy one and you're definately not entitled to own one just because it exists.
In all the points you made just now, you neglected to mention one thing in your comparison. Apple told people they'd be doing those things. Microsoft doesn't.
Smart is irrelevant. It's the morality of it. If you went out and bought an iPhone and didn't plan on using att, this is what you get. They clearly state that the iphone will only work on their network. If you decide to prove that wrong and mess up your phone why should Apple and/or the credit card companies exchange your money/replace your iphone?
Maybe I should go spike mine down onto the pavement then return it for a replacement as well?
That sucks for the people that bought iphones specifically because they could be unlocked and used with anyone. On the other hand, it's been known for a while that the iPhone was going to be tied to a specific carrier.
I have a feeling that regardless of how many times someone comes up with a hack to unlock the iphone, there will always be something new to come along and give the tie in with att some sort of bright side. Kind of like how you only get the visual voicemail with att and not another carrier. I would expect to see new features rolled out as time goes on, giving additions to the iphone only to att customers, at least during the duration of their contract together.
Regardless of anything though, right or wrong, it's been widely known that the phones would be locked into att and if you purchased it to unlock it for another network you have nothing to complain about when the next update kills it.
Quick someone call Steve Gutenberg. Johnny 5 is alive!!!!!
I would like to begin begin by saying I almost completely agree with everything you've laid out here.
The problem is, and apologies to wherever it's been said before (I know it has been) is that when robots start fighting wars, it takes the consequences out of pulling the trigger. I have a few friends who have or are serving active duty in Iraq and while I would rather see a few hunks of metal and silicon take a bullet instead of them, I also fear the day when fighting wars and killing people becomes a video game where the consequences of pulling the trigger are seperated from real men in real harm. I don't know real armed combat, and for that I am glad, especially after seeing how my friends have changed when they've come home. At the same time, these men, have had to make hard decisions and have killed people. It takes it's toll, but that is part of war. When it's only machines at risk, fighting (especially for life and death) doesn't mean the same and to me only increases the chances/opportunities for anyone and everyone to start going to war.
With the technology availible, we're lucky that "terrorists" or "insurgents" haven't delved into the field of robotics. All things considered, it wouldn't be too hard to strap some kind of explosive to an RC car (or whatever remotely controlled servos) to detonate a bomb. If anything it shows how dumb the enemy is that they sacrifice men instead of machines to blow things up. Willing manpower is expendable to them, instead of bits of metal. In an era when a radio transmitter can be had for pennies at your local dollar store (in the form of a cheap piece of plastic RC car) they are still brainwashing humans to blow themselves up. This speaks volumes about either their lack of respect for human life (nice religion you're fighting to preserve... that should last long..) or exactly how well thought out their extended plans for warfare are.
Whatever the plans are of this enemy that uses people as bombs, it's short sighted and ultimately doomed to failure because they keep blowing up the ones most dedicated to their cause when better more expendable solutions exist, whether it's a cheap remote controlled car, or radio controlled switch.
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to the NSA/FBI should I put my hands against the wall for educating what seems to be a retarded enemy, or may I continue to live under your watchful eye?
While what you say is entirely possible, I would respectfully like to see some kind of link between this company and microsoft before we start throwing around the "Bill Gates wants all the money in the world" boogeyman. Please?
I'd bet that not hosting that site in the first place, wastes a lot more energy than every slashdotter with a CRT looking at Google all day.
Actually, next time you see Jesus, I think he'll be on his third one.
" (mobile data typically costs so you can't keep checking for updates)"
:)
Typically, you'd be right, but with the phone, they do require the unlimited data plan, so checking for updates once a day, isn't really costing. As someone else has mentioned though, updates are delivered via iTunes.
I've been using Aperture since May of '06 on a 17" 1.67 G4 Powerbook with 1GB of RAM. When Aperture was first released performance was less than stellar working with RAW files, and from time to time it won't properly read some RAW files form longer exposures. There have been some great improvements in the software. You definately don't need bleeding edge hardware to run aperture. Just as much RAM as you can get stuffed into your machine. YMMV
While you may be correct (I guess if we want to settle whether or not the camera is capable/quality, we *COULD* check out the exif info), shutter speed and blur are irrelevant (in this case) since a flash was used in this photo, and would freeze any motion taking place. Don't believe me, go grab an old digital camera that has a flash on it and take a picture of a fan. That, or turn a strobe light to a relatively high speed in a dark room and move around.
All that aside, the reason that the fan isn't moving, is because that's a photo, not a video.
*snicker*
because it's a photograph and not a video.
No no no.. YOu're not worth something till you're needed to fix it. If it's working, they question why you're needed in the first place.
WMV hasn't worked for me (haven't really tried though) but I know some AVI's i have downloaded play just fine on my Intel Mac mini via front row. Just put the AVI files in your "Movies" directory and front row will find them. I would guess/hope that the Apple TV would work in a similar fashion.
What? No Satellite radio....
Just kidding, but I do remember some bickering about iPod needing XM/Sirius recievers built in.
Guess I could always listen online.
SSH in would be fun, but ARD out would be cooler!
You know, I was thinking about this the other evening, in regards to Second Life and Actual money. I'm curious how Second Life gets away with allowing unregulated gambling on servers hosted in the US, since in regards to gambling on SL, Lindens are nothing more than virtual Casino chips.
It's about time someone took notice of what is hopefully going ot be an emerging trend in the corporate world. Myself I administer a WAN of 10 user to about 7 machines. It used to be a commodity hardware+windows solution maintained by one person (me). I konw I'm opening myself up to a lot of criticism here, but for this small environment windows was a big problem. It's easy to say this, but securitywise it's a total PITA to be one guy administering a LAN/WAN of windows machines, especially when logins are shared (yes, bad I know... but we are small). Every other day I'd get calls about network issues or printers just disappearing for what seems to be without reason. A simple reboot would usually take care of whatever the problem was.
I think anyone reading slashdot would say that a reboot isn't such a big deal. I would tend to agree. I don't think the average person trying to enter in medical billing charges or look at a medical schedule of patients would agree however. In a service based industry, I am not a fan of keeping the customer any longer than ness. which means things just need to work. Something that windows was just not doing for me/our organization.
About a year and a half ago now, a friend came to me with a new 12" powerbook she had purchased with a question about configuring wireless networking. Apparently the (large enterprise) that she works for didn't have any IT staff skilled enough to figure out how to configure Airport to operate on their (windows centric) secure wireless network. So, sitting in her car in an Applebees parking lot I took a look at it (first time ever touching a mac with OS X on it) and had it figured and configured in about 30 seconds. I fell in love with it.
So after that short experience I did some reading and learning about how it works and what it is and isn't. I made a small leap. I gave my boss a 15" powerbook and ordered up a 17" powerbook for myself. After a couple of months and with the introduction of the mac mini and great pricing on the iMacs I had our organization switched to an all apple solution, and haven't had any issues with any of the machines running currently. In fact a windows application that we used to use for our medical billing and scheduling is now something holding us back, and to tackle that I use virtualization. Thankfully, the use of windows in a VM is for older patient accounts, since everything has been moved to a new mac based application ("Macpractice" if you're curious... We've been happy with it, as it runs on MySQL instead of PostgreSQL like our former application "Intergy" for those that want to know).
Even migrating everything to an Xserve just recently has proven painless and everything that I had running our enterprise on a G4 mac mini running tiger server migrated smoothly and only took a couple of hours of my time to get back to where it should be. The fact that the architechture changed (from G4 to Intel quad Xeon) wasn't even an issue. In fact the only issues I'm having at the moment is getting our legacy software back up and running in a VM so that we can continue to close out old accounts (as db conversion was cost prohibitive, so we still need to run it). And this is slightly trivial, since I don't need to run it in a VM, I just choose to, so I can take the former windows server and put it to use as a (free)NAS (server) somewhere else.
In summary, making the switch to Apple has left me with little to do outside of educating people to use only one mouse button and counseling them in their state of "culture shock" when confronted with somehting different than what they use at home or elsewhere. What I anticipated to be a hard switch has been more painless than upgrading to the latest version of windows. At the very least, I'm glad I'm salaried, otherwise I'd be making very little, considering how little I actually have to do anymore. To my windows counterparts (a friend of mine sells service contracts for PC's like craaazy), kudos to you for keeping the service industry alive.