The hospital system I work in just moved to IE7 (at great pains) but THERE IS A SOLUTION! (12,500 workstations and 25,000 users)
VMware has a program called ThinApp (useto be Thinstall till they bought it)
This will visualize IE6 and 7. Microsoft and Citrix says this is bad, VMware tells us they have already gone though Microsoft Legal and cleared it with them completely, plus they will support you whereas Microsoft will not.
Citrix will tell you to build a 2003 server and send it out that way, Microsoft will tell you to make a virtual XP box and go that way. Both way too much overhead with virus scanning software, patching etc...
This could be the answer, and it does work. Thinapp is a pretty amazing program for $10 per device.
We are looking at doing a full Win 7 migration based on Microsft's App-V and Thinapp with some apps on our Citrix servers, and our support will drop like a rock after it.
Rebuild a PC and the apps get sent to it virtually, so we would be able to rebuild a Pc in under 30 minutes from the start of re-image to completed. Right now we are at about an hour to get from kicking off the re-image to all the vertical apps installed.
I don't know, I think the excitement that he unveiled was perfectly credulous. We need to incorporate it into the vision as we strive for excellence in our everyday existence. THAT is how you will utilize synergy to its fullest potential to enhance your value to the bottom line. This is nanotechnology age excellence.
Ideally the tea party movement doesn't care about what party you are in, republican or democrat.
It's more about believing that the current government isn't working the way it was meant to, spending is out of control and will ruin us, the elected leaders don't listen or are too far gone etc... Democrats have always been known to be generous with taxpayer money, and republicans these days have gotten just as bad.
I'm also now seeing reports about democrats planting candidates and calling them tea party people, even though they have never been associated with the tea party before they got on the ballot as one of them.
One game you just went around kicking monkeys for points... they would turn red and jump all over really fast trying to get back at you, but you just avoid them for a while, and then kick them again when they cooled off...
Really, it's OK. We'll just get us some of that Obama money from his stash I keep hearing about.
Then we can convert EVERY sidewalk to a moving sidewalk FOR FREE.
After all, if it's from his stash, we never have to pay for it. Problem solved, when can we start?
While we are at it... what about using this for intercity travel? We could make... the Louis and Clark moving trail... it could go through the exact places they went, and take half the time to do it...
interesting, I will have to remember that. thanks!
I just really don't want to go back to contacts... I had LASIK so I wouldn't need them... Didn't know at the time that I should not have been a candidate a few years later...
Right now I was looking into intacs which are plastic semi circle implants in the upper tissue of the eye to flatten it out
no all bad, im my early 30's now, and headed to an eye surgeon in about 2 hours to see what I can do since i think it's still early... heard a bunch about intacs and how they are suppose to help (there is also the possibility that i's not keratoconus, but the version that is made FROM botched LASIK.
either way i'm fairly confident insurance will cover it as a necessary thing to prevent blindness, and they told me they would cover it as long as a doc says it's necessary, so first step make the doc tell them it's necessary (which the doc that did the lasik, but isn't covered by my insurance believes it is), then get a piece of paper from them saying they will cover it, then get it fixed as much as possible...
They are 2 semi circle rings put into the upper layer of the eye to flatten the eye back out. I'm going to talk to a Doc about them this afternoon while I still have one good ey and one double vision one...
*raises hand...* Had Lasik 2 years ago, and now have Keratoconus... Turns out I shouldn't have had Lasik done, but I had no idea, and they didn't find it then. It normally shows up mid to late 20's I believe.
Not necessarily... I'm going to see an eye doc today about intacs for kerataconus (sp?), or the steepening of the eye as a genetic disorder. I have it in just one eye, and I didn't do anything to trash my eye, but a cornea transplant is one possible fix.
For anyone interested in what this looks like, with my left eye closed I get a ghost vision where there are 2 clear images, one is just overlayed on the other... when the TV menu is up, I can read what is on one line, and I also see it on the line just above it as a ghost image... it's odd, but this would be one possible treatment for it.
There are good solutions, such as VMware's Thinapp, you virtualize the application with everything it needs, and other solutions, but they would cost money which no one wants to spend right now...
that would be a very good guess... and unfortunately I have no power in making them an ex vendor... the high ups have made long term deals and left in the past pretty much cementing it in place... too expensive to move now...
But it's the same McKesson that REQUIRES all PCs running app A to have Java 1.4.2 and nothing newer, even though another product (app b) needs to run on those same computers, and REQUIRES Java 1.6...
Best company example of teams having no idea what other teams do and require...
GP isn't a troll... Hospitals run older software... one hospital chain around here still runs Win 2000... The one I work for (~12,000 computer, 24,000 employee) is on XP SP3 (as of late last year) with plans for Win 7 in 2-3 years, but we are on IE 6 because of vendors not updating their software to let us move to it, and writing NEW software that REQUIRES IT!
When critical software isn't supported on the new system, you stay where you are until it is. That's just how things work.
for affording new licenses... don't you have a volume license with Microsoft? Win 7 and Office 2010 is included in ours...
And Obamacare will help and hurt. yes more people will come and have some kind of healthcare, but the poor will still not be paying the full amount of the procedure like they already aren't (we lose ~50 Mil a year in the difference between what the Gov't repays us and what it costs us to do the procedures. You as a fully insured person already pay the difference)
On a side note, paying the fine for not having insurance will still be cheaper than buying the insurance, so I don't see much changing except people that buy short term insurance, get a procedure and drop it after it's covered. Mark it on your calendar, you heard it here (after many other places before)
Sorry... isn't going to work. Once you get all VENDORS off IE6, THEN companies can move off it.
Where I work we are trying to get to IE7 (let alone 8, even though we have Win 7 plans for 1012) but we still have vendors that are writing NEW applications that only work on IE6! If our applications can't work on the our webbrowsers, it's a stretch, but people could possibly die (healthcare and not having the right information) And no, switching vendors isn't a viable option, since that would literally cost millions to switch everything over to a better vendor.
If you get the software vendors off their asses and onto a modern platform, and we would gladly move forward. Until then our security guys go nuts cleaning up and stopping whatever they can.
We have a vendor by the name of McKesson where I work that recently offered us a NEW product that is ONLY IE6 compatible. Not for IE 7 or 8... and it's a NEW PRODUCT!?!?!?
I've had good luck with autoit for the 3 or so years i've worked with it.
only had to modify things a few times. normally if you look in the help file it will tell you when things are depreciated, and from my experience lately they haven't changed core functionality...
I've used it for all kinds of odd things, like a request to automate right clicking in the system tray on a specific icon to insert credentials when a DOS window opened with a specific title.
You can't just plug in coordinates, you have to list all the icons by name, find the name you want, pass that array value in with the right click through a.dll and then pick the right one from the list... i was very impressed it could do it.
Autoit is the way to go... we use it a TON where I work to manage ~13,000 computers doing installations, configurations, some troubleshooting, user account creation and all sorts of things...
Just today I used it to clean up after an HP program that leaves dead icons in the system tray... autoit waits for the process that makes it to show up, then close, and then cleans out any taskbar icons that don't have a PID attached to them.
It's an incredibly simple language and can do just about anything...
the FBI watched him actually as a TARGET of terrorism... plus were involved in investigating the other charges... must have misheard or misremember that part... but they were involved for looking through things and kept watching him after the trial i believe.
because the FBI was also looking at him for terrorism, and they couldn't find anything on him either... which tells me he didn't do it, and was just not mentally developed in that area of his life that he saw nothing wrong in sleeping in the same bed as someone's kid.
from his upbringing I'm surprised any of them turned out to be well adjusted people.
mythbusters tried this with a golfball pattern, and got quite a bit BETTER gas mileage out of the car over the 1 mile course repeatedly. The downside would be that your car has hundreds of huge dimples on it... Wasn't faster, but it was more efficient.
Sometimes it's not even that. There was a video floating around the tubes a few years back of a state legislature vote in which a vote was called, everyone voted at their desk, and THEN went on to vote on the desks of everyone around them!
you had people casting votes for others of different political views for them (I can't imagine they would vote for others against their own vote), and they went on to say it was the only way they could get anything done because so many were absent.
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The hospital system I work in just moved to IE7 (at great pains) but THERE IS A SOLUTION! (12,500 workstations and 25,000 users)
VMware has a program called ThinApp (useto be Thinstall till they bought it)
This will visualize IE6 and 7. Microsoft and Citrix says this is bad, VMware tells us they have already gone though Microsoft Legal and cleared it with them completely, plus they will support you whereas Microsoft will not.
Citrix will tell you to build a 2003 server and send it out that way, Microsoft will tell you to make a virtual XP box and go that way. Both way too much overhead with virus scanning software, patching etc...
This could be the answer, and it does work. Thinapp is a pretty amazing program for $10 per device.
We are looking at doing a full Win 7 migration based on Microsft's App-V and Thinapp with some apps on our Citrix servers, and our support will drop like a rock after it.
Rebuild a PC and the apps get sent to it virtually, so we would be able to rebuild a Pc in under 30 minutes from the start of re-image to completed. Right now we are at about an hour to get from kicking off the re-image to all the vertical apps installed.
I don't know, I think the excitement that he unveiled was perfectly credulous. We need to incorporate it into the vision as we strive for excellence in our everyday existence. THAT is how you will utilize synergy to its fullest potential to enhance your value to the bottom line. This is nanotechnology age excellence.
Ideally the tea party movement doesn't care about what party you are in, republican or democrat.
It's more about believing that the current government isn't working the way it was meant to, spending is out of control and will ruin us, the elected leaders don't listen or are too far gone etc... Democrats have always been known to be generous with taxpayer money, and republicans these days have gotten just as bad.
I'm also now seeing reports about democrats planting candidates and calling them tea party people, even though they have never been associated with the tea party before they got on the ballot as one of them.
I loved my Odyssey... it was a simple time.
One game you just went around kicking monkeys for points... they would turn red and jump all over really fast trying to get back at you, but you just avoid them for a while, and then kick them again when they cooled off...
it. was. awesome....
Really, it's OK. We'll just get us some of that Obama money from his stash I keep hearing about.
Then we can convert EVERY sidewalk to a moving sidewalk FOR FREE.
After all, if it's from his stash, we never have to pay for it. Problem solved, when can we start?
While we are at it... what about using this for intercity travel? We could make... the Louis and Clark moving trail... it could go through the exact places they went, and take half the time to do it...
interesting, I will have to remember that. thanks!
I just really don't want to go back to contacts... I had LASIK so I wouldn't need them... Didn't know at the time that I should not have been a candidate a few years later...
Right now I was looking into intacs which are plastic semi circle implants in the upper tissue of the eye to flatten it out
no all bad, im my early 30's now, and headed to an eye surgeon in about 2 hours to see what I can do since i think it's still early... heard a bunch about intacs and how they are suppose to help (there is also the possibility that i's not keratoconus, but the version that is made FROM botched LASIK.
either way i'm fairly confident insurance will cover it as a necessary thing to prevent blindness, and they told me they would cover it as long as a doc says it's necessary, so first step make the doc tell them it's necessary (which the doc that did the lasik, but isn't covered by my insurance believes it is), then get a piece of paper from them saying they will cover it, then get it fixed as much as possible...
intacs are removable... COMPLETELY reversible or tweakable with no tissue removed. Just a very fringe treatment still...
look into intacs, it MAY help.
They are 2 semi circle rings put into the upper layer of the eye to flatten the eye back out. I'm going to talk to a Doc about them this afternoon while I still have one good ey and one double vision one...
*raises hand...* Had Lasik 2 years ago, and now have Keratoconus... Turns out I shouldn't have had Lasik done, but I had no idea, and they didn't find it then. It normally shows up mid to late 20's I believe.
Not necessarily... I'm going to see an eye doc today about intacs for kerataconus (sp?), or the steepening of the eye as a genetic disorder. I have it in just one eye, and I didn't do anything to trash my eye, but a cornea transplant is one possible fix.
For anyone interested in what this looks like, with my left eye closed I get a ghost vision where there are 2 clear images, one is just overlayed on the other... when the TV menu is up, I can read what is on one line, and I also see it on the line just above it as a ghost image... it's odd, but this would be one possible treatment for it.
The real question is... Will it blend?
There are good solutions, such as VMware's Thinapp, you virtualize the application with everything it needs, and other solutions, but they would cost money which no one wants to spend right now...
that would be a very good guess... and unfortunately I have no power in making them an ex vendor... the high ups have made long term deals and left in the past pretty much cementing it in place... too expensive to move now...
But it's the same McKesson that REQUIRES all PCs running app A to have Java 1.4.2 and nothing newer, even though another product (app b) needs to run on those same computers, and REQUIRES Java 1.6...
Best company example of teams having no idea what other teams do and require...
you pretty much can through Active Directory...
You can strip it all the way down to bland IE. make the webpage work and the user won't know it changed.
GP isn't a troll... Hospitals run older software... one hospital chain around here still runs Win 2000... The one I work for (~12,000 computer, 24,000 employee) is on XP SP3 (as of late last year) with plans for Win 7 in 2-3 years, but we are on IE 6 because of vendors not updating their software to let us move to it, and writing NEW software that REQUIRES IT!
When critical software isn't supported on the new system, you stay where you are until it is. That's just how things work.
for affording new licenses... don't you have a volume license with Microsoft? Win 7 and Office 2010 is included in ours...
And Obamacare will help and hurt. yes more people will come and have some kind of healthcare, but the poor will still not be paying the full amount of the procedure like they already aren't (we lose ~50 Mil a year in the difference between what the Gov't repays us and what it costs us to do the procedures. You as a fully insured person already pay the difference)
On a side note, paying the fine for not having insurance will still be cheaper than buying the insurance, so I don't see much changing except people that buy short term insurance, get a procedure and drop it after it's covered. Mark it on your calendar, you heard it here (after many other places before)
Sorry... isn't going to work. Once you get all VENDORS off IE6, THEN companies can move off it.
Where I work we are trying to get to IE7 (let alone 8, even though we have Win 7 plans for 1012) but we still have vendors that are writing NEW applications that only work on IE6! If our applications can't work on the our webbrowsers, it's a stretch, but people could possibly die (healthcare and not having the right information) And no, switching vendors isn't a viable option, since that would literally cost millions to switch everything over to a better vendor.
If you get the software vendors off their asses and onto a modern platform, and we would gladly move forward. Until then our security guys go nuts cleaning up and stopping whatever they can.
We have a vendor by the name of McKesson where I work that recently offered us a NEW product that is ONLY IE6 compatible. Not for IE 7 or 8... and it's a NEW PRODUCT!?!?!?
I've had good luck with autoit for the 3 or so years i've worked with it.
only had to modify things a few times. normally if you look in the help file it will tell you when things are depreciated, and from my experience lately they haven't changed core functionality...
I've used it for all kinds of odd things, like a request to automate right clicking in the system tray on a specific icon to insert credentials when a DOS window opened with a specific title.
You can't just plug in coordinates, you have to list all the icons by name, find the name you want, pass that array value in with the right click through a .dll and then pick the right one from the list... i was very impressed it could do it.
Autoit is the way to go... we use it a TON where I work to manage ~13,000 computers doing installations, configurations, some troubleshooting, user account creation and all sorts of things...
Just today I used it to clean up after an HP program that leaves dead icons in the system tray... autoit waits for the process that makes it to show up, then close, and then cleans out any taskbar icons that don't have a PID attached to them.
It's an incredibly simple language and can do just about anything...
the FBI watched him actually as a TARGET of terrorism... plus were involved in investigating the other charges... must have misheard or misremember that part... but they were involved for looking through things and kept watching him after the trial i believe.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1237844/The-Michael-Jackson-FBI-files-Authorities-feared-singer-terrorist-target-child-molestation-trial.html
because the FBI was also looking at him for terrorism, and they couldn't find anything on him either... which tells me he didn't do it, and was just not mentally developed in that area of his life that he saw nothing wrong in sleeping in the same bed as someone's kid.
from his upbringing I'm surprised any of them turned out to be well adjusted people.
It’s a perfectly cromulent word. Any method that can embiggen his vocabulary is a wholanic goal.
mythbusters tried this with a golfball pattern, and got quite a bit BETTER gas mileage out of the car over the 1 mile course repeatedly. The downside would be that your car has hundreds of huge dimples on it... Wasn't faster, but it was more efficient.
Sometimes it's not even that. There was a video floating around the tubes a few years back of a state legislature vote in which a vote was called, everyone voted at their desk, and THEN went on to vote on the desks of everyone around them!
you had people casting votes for others of different political views for them (I can't imagine they would vote for others against their own vote), and they went on to say it was the only way they could get anything done because so many were absent.
Why is that...