So in summary cheaper multi CPU boards from the manufacturers sells more CPU's
Yes, but it does not generate more revenue or profit. The BP6 (I am still using this board as my main machine even though I have 2 faster single cpu machines) caused Intel to disable SMP in the celeron . It was such a succes that it ate into the "premium" brand P3.
AMD need the support of the "serious" vendors so the last thing they will do is themselves offer somethng that will undermine that support. Expect SMP boards to be high prices for a while.
This is a draft, and all spelling issues wil most likely be fixed.
More importantly by putting this document out for review the OpenSource model itself is being used to improve the Amicus Brief. All facts will will have needed documentation, and a list of people to testify will most likely be available.
This is very clever and it's recursive nature would be poetic justice if indeed it helps defeat the SCO claim.
The avertment below aimes directly at OpenSource competency, so even though it reads as flag-waving it is on point.
Avertment 84:
"Prior to IBM's involvement, Linux was the software equivalent of a bicycle. UNIX was the software equivalent of a luxury car. To make Linux of necessary quality for use by enterprise customers, it must be re-designed so that Linux also becomes the software equivalent of a luxury car. This re-design is not technologically feasible or even possible at the enterprise level without (1) a high degree of design coordination, (2) access to expensive and sophisticated design and testing equipment; (3) access to UNIX code, methods and concepts; (4) UNIX architectural experience; and (5) a very significant financial investment."
How do you currently interface with various government agencies? What kind of pressure is put to bear, how do you see it evolving and are you able to answer these questions freely.
Thanks for your reply, no I didn't think you were a lawyer. I asked since I think it is important to understand if it was you as a linux developer or your boss as a general manager (I assume) that initiated the research.
The fact that is was your boss tells me that the "fall-out" from this might be a bit worse than hoped for. On the positive side, when IBM files their response we will hopefully get more amunition to tackle the fear this has caused.
The suit is not about the GPL as you know but I think the GPL in general gets to benefit. GPL has never been tested in court, but if it is challenged by SCO be could ask for no better defense team than the IP lawyers at IBM.
I informed my boss that this lawsuit probably won't impact our Linux development
If you are permitted please write how this was initiated. I think the community is trying to access the impact of this lawsuit and even anecdotal evidence is of interest. Here is Linus' take.
Make sure everyone that has dealings with SCO calls in ANY service owed. From Bug fixes to service calls etc. Make sure reasonable payment to SCO is withheld until the owed service is rendered.
No company can respond to a huge sudden increase in service demands. Make sure it is demands covered under already existent and "paid for" service contracts.
SCO only has $10M in cash and nothing will sink them faster than a cash crunch.
FYI, The idea for Ethernet came from radio communication between islands in Hawaii.
The system were manual but the "rules" were when you heard someone else talk you had to shut up. Both parties. Then there were stocastic rules for how long you had to wait before you re-try. The stocastic manual system minimized repeated collisions.
Aloha
The Aloha based system was not supposed to scale. The problem pointed out by IBM / TI and others were that collisons increased as the useage increased, prohibiting a steady throughput. The problem of non predictability of packages was equally mentioned.
Token ring and other methods were supposed to supplant Ethernet in a few years, back when we were at 1Mbps.
10Mbps were supposed to be the EOL for ethernet.
Where are we now? 10Gbps is getting to be deployed.
Much better approach is to swamp them with request for service calls if you have a contract with SCO.
When they are unable to comply with contractual response time, have your account payable department withhold payment until problem has been resolved.
If invoice gets to you for authorization of work done, delay. Throw it out and request a new by snail mail. Repeat.
Ask your system house vendor for a review of SCO licensing. Withhold payment until done.
DElAY everything you can.
In a few weeks their cash is below required minimum and the banks etc. will call their loans.
Noting kills a company quicker than a cash crunch, NOTHING. It's like a run on a bank.
End of SCO.
Don't forget the DSP chip announced Yesterday. This is really bad news for TI, as the chinese market for cell phones is growing much faster than US and almost saturated Europe.
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That with Linux the software is cheap but the people are expensive and with Windows its the other way around
Long term (I know, we are all dead) you always want to place your bet on the solution with the lowest human cost measured in Hours not Dollars.
That is how countries / Companies / organizations get to be and stay rich. Using lower labor rates is only an option in the beginning and is becoming less so at a rapid rate. Migration of manufacturing to the Far-East has more to do with efficient infrastructure as far as component availability is concerned than $/Hour.
Microsoft , SUN , IBM etc. knows this and this is where the OS / Middleware software batttle is heading.
Where does that leave Windows / *nix / Linux? Compare Germany with UK. Much stricter rules for adjusting workforce and higher labor cost in Germany is forcing a more rapid uptake of Linux than in the UK. Second I will venture that *Nix penetration is higher in Germany than UK, but I do not know for sure.
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In the sc industry any national distributor will normally only carry one major line. This has been the Rule since late 60's.
Yes, but it does not generate more revenue or profit. The BP6 (I am still using this board as my main machine even though I have 2 faster single cpu machines) caused Intel to disable SMP in the celeron . It was such a succes that it ate into the "premium" brand P3.
AMD need the support of the "serious" vendors so the last thing they will do is themselves offer somethng that will undermine that support. Expect SMP boards to be high prices for a while.
More importantly by putting this document out for review the OpenSource model itself is being used to improve the Amicus Brief. All facts will will have needed documentation, and a list of people to testify will most likely be available.
This is very clever and it's recursive nature would be poetic justice if indeed it helps defeat the SCO claim.
Avertment 84: "Prior to IBM's involvement, Linux was the software equivalent of a bicycle. UNIX was the software equivalent of a luxury car. To make Linux of necessary quality for use by enterprise customers, it must be re-designed so that Linux also becomes the software equivalent of a luxury car. This re-design is not technologically feasible or even possible at the enterprise level without (1) a high degree of design coordination, (2) access to expensive and sophisticated design and testing equipment; (3) access to UNIX code, methods and concepts; (4) UNIX architectural experience; and (5) a very significant financial investment."
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How do you currently interface with various government agencies? What kind of pressure is put to bear, how do you see it evolving and are you able to answer these questions freely.
The fact that is was your boss tells me that the "fall-out" from this might be a bit worse than hoped for. On the positive side, when IBM files their response we will hopefully get more amunition to tackle the fear this has caused.
The suit is not about the GPL as you know but I think the GPL in general gets to benefit. GPL has never been tested in court, but if it is challenged by SCO be could ask for no better defense team than the IP lawyers at IBM.
Again thanks for your reply
If you are permitted please write how this was initiated. I think the community is trying to access the impact of this lawsuit and even anecdotal evidence is of interest. Here is Linus' take.
It's part of Apple's clever niche marketing strategy. In this case they are addressing the educational sub-segment suffering from ADDS
Make sure everyone that has dealings with SCO calls in ANY service owed. From Bug fixes to service calls etc. Make sure reasonable payment to SCO is withheld until the owed service is rendered.
No company can respond to a huge sudden increase in service demands. Make sure it is demands covered under already existent and "paid for" service contracts.
SCO only has $10M in cash and nothing will sink them faster than a cash crunch.
The system were manual but the "rules" were when you heard someone else talk you had to shut up. Both parties. Then there were stocastic rules for how long you had to wait before you re-try. The stocastic manual system minimized repeated collisions. Aloha
The Aloha based system was not supposed to scale. The problem pointed out by IBM / TI and others were that collisons increased as the useage increased, prohibiting a steady throughput. The problem of non predictability of packages was equally mentioned.
Token ring and other methods were supposed to supplant Ethernet in a few years, back when we were at 1Mbps.
10Mbps were supposed to be the EOL for ethernet.
Where are we now? 10Gbps is getting to be deployed.
When they are unable to comply with contractual response time, have your account payable department withhold payment until problem has been resolved.
If invoice gets to you for authorization of work done, delay. Throw it out and request a new by snail mail. Repeat.
Ask your system house vendor for a review of SCO licensing. Withhold payment until done. DElAY everything you can. In a few weeks their cash is below required minimum and the banks etc. will call their loans.
Noting kills a company quicker than a cash crunch, NOTHING. It's like a run on a bank. End of SCO.
Confirms Intellectual Property Rights for All Versions of Its UNIX(R) Operating Systems
I guess the article missed a #8. Anyone invoking the word Truth (Caped or not) in the argument is sure to be a hoaxster. From the Pope on down.
Don't forget the DSP chip announced Yesterday. This is really bad news for TI, as the chinese market for cell phones is growing much faster than US and almost saturated Europe.
For a look into the future look at NewsNow Tech sectionthis will give you 90% of the stories to hit /. later.
Dear Slashdot,
Thank you for posting this story. I was disappointed last week when I submitted same under my other Alias T. Duct Tape Ridge.
As I stated earlier all of us monitor slasdot stories with great interest.
PS: Just because you are not paranoid does not mean you are not being followed.
In the olden days that was how you claimed a new colony. What is the leal status of the moon, if any.
Sure you can.
Most likely the windows users when Longhorn is released will split into same two groups.
Only interesting question is the size of each group.
Even headline is Best battle ground for Linux.
Red Herring
Why is this story posted with an AMD Icon? Does Timothy know something we don't?
Long term (I know, we are all dead) you always want to place your bet on the solution with the lowest human cost measured in Hours not Dollars.
That is how countries / Companies / organizations get to be and stay rich. Using lower labor rates is only an option in the beginning and is becoming less so at a rapid rate. Migration of manufacturing to the Far-East has more to do with efficient infrastructure as far as component availability is concerned than $/Hour.
Microsoft , SUN , IBM etc. knows this and this is where the OS / Middleware software batttle is heading.
Where does that leave Windows / *nix / Linux? Compare Germany with UK. Much stricter rules for adjusting workforce and higher labor cost in Germany is forcing a more rapid uptake of Linux than in the UK. Second I will venture that *Nix penetration is higher in Germany than UK, but I do not know for sure.