I made the point that a compromised system, for whatever reason, can kill you. If I'm wrong, show the error, and I'll admit that it's off-topic. If you can't show I'm wrong, stop grasping at straws.
The thesis of the parent comment ("bad software won't kill you") was demonstrably false, with a publicly-known incident. The article was more correct than the poster of the parent comment realized. So, it was on-topic.
I acknowledged the shortcomings of using the Yorktown incident to make the point. What more do you want?
It seems to me that the toolkit was the GD library. It has to do with painting intersections, exclusions, and inclusions of image regions. However, it's listed at www.boutell.com as being Open Source.
A quick glance at the "external requirements" page at OO.o doesn't list GD. Maybe they've replaced it with their own "thing".
And on top of all this, I don't remember exactly where I saw Pat's explanation. Perhaps in a personal email *g* which I have no way of checking right now because I'm at work.
(If there were a "lame" rating, I know this posting would get it.)
If you are putting GUI configuration on your server, you just broke its small-ness.
The GUI configuration tools on many Linux systems require a slew of other libraries to make them work. Xlib at least, then on to Xm, or GTK+, or Qt, and their requirments.
At least the old "linuxconf" had a CGI mode for web browsers. I believe "webmin" has a Slackware-compatible configuration.
OpenOffice.org is excluded due to licensing restrictions. Specifically, OO.o uses a graphics rendering toolkit that has restrictions Patrick believes are incompatible with the GPL.
At the same time, he has no objections to someone installing it on their own.
That's odd, because I'm using Fedora Core 2, and it's just as easy as you describe for Windows XP. I drop in a blank CD, when the empty window appears, I drag files to it, then select a single menu option to record it. One dialog for sanity, and off it goes.
BTW, your comparison is invalid. It compares the best of what you like with the worst of what you dislike.
Is this another sign that dynamic languages are the future?
I'm starting to think there are no new ideas any more, just re-hashes of old ideas. Unix, almost 35 years old, looks to be once again the wave of the future. LISP is still teaching us lessons. And the command line is still the most powerful sysadmin tool we have.
Except those birds aren't filled with mercury. That much mercury, in a container with such thin protection, would have to be considered Unsafe for Human Use.
Yet how interesting it is, that Lincoln's most memorable speech, even in its own day, is also one of his shortest.
Oh, and if you're trying to blame Bush for whatever's under your craw, you might check your math. Bush has been President for three years and six months. Sesame Street also has two letters each day, but I guess you can't count that high.
Oh, please. This was a bunch of college kids trying to out-do each other. There were no referees, and the only rule was that you had to make the equipment signal a hit. How you did that was up to you.
Back when I was in college, and Laser Tag was relatively new, some smart-aleck wag figured out that it was nothing more than a glorified remote control.
He got a programmable remote (a real one, that read another remote's signal, then duplicated it), put the Laser Tag signal into it, and voila! He had the Laser Tag equivalent of a sawed-off shotgun. He could take out several players at once with it. And often did.
I have yet to see an Apple ad campaign playing up the fact that Macs remain largely virus-free.
Apple will do well not to try that stunt. MacOS was the first home user platform to be afflicted by viruses. When DOS was languishing in stolid austerity, Mac was the platform to play with, especially on college campuses. It proved to be a fertile breeding ground (pun intended).
On the flip side, one could say Apple has been trying longer to harden their systems against viruses.
For stack-based hardware, FORTH is very powerful. A tiny interpreter (even on chip-level) and screamingly fast. PostScript is similarly stack-based, but its huge base vocabulary is less than ideal for beginning programming.
In a similar vein, I've been pondering the feasibility of a no-GP-register CPU. Low addresses (say, the first 31 words) are stored on-chip, the rest in slower memory. Data is accessed via two memory-address registers (a la the M reg in the old 8080, which turned into (HL) in the Z80) to lend itself to load-store internal implementation. 30-bit (or 62-bit) addressing, a RISC architecture, predicates all around, everything vector-able (including predication).
I'd like, just for once, for an Eco-Terrorist to think with their mind, rather than their heart.
Thinking? Who said anything about thinking?
Greenpeace's tactics are the same as anti-Semitism, the Crusades, and James Carville. The only way to get along with their practitioners/followers, is to avoid rational thought as much as possible.
Parent is correct; I mis-stepped. What I meant was that "a gallon of something at one temperature will have a different volume at a different temperature."
There's just one problem with that. A gallon is a measure of volume, which will vary by temperature. The weight of the gas you pump will stay the same, but it's more difficult to calibrate that kind of sensor on the gas tank. So, you have two options:
Measure volume pumped, and hope your car is level, so that the irregular shape of your tank doesn't affect the sensors inside.
Measure the weight, hope your sensors are correct, and avoid every pothole on the freeway so as not to wear out the sensors prematurely.
Short-circuit explanation: Read the spoof linked from the article. Does it sound familiar? No? I am truly jealous.
The name "419" refers to the Nigerian criminal code section that this spam violates. No idea how many victims it has claimed, but it has been a cottage industry there for about three years now. These arrests should put a dent in the operation.
Since a barcode is merely a specialized format for binary data (similar to a hard drive's RLL, in fact), I'm sure it's a matter of time until someone figures out how to transfer audio data to a print medium, for later retrieval via barcode scanner.
I know a hobbyist magazine back in the '80s used to print entire programs in barcode format. I think it was for the old Radio Shack Model 100 laptop.
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I made the point that a compromised system, for whatever reason, can kill you. If I'm wrong, show the error, and I'll admit that it's off-topic. If you can't show I'm wrong, stop grasping at straws.
The thesis of the parent comment ("bad software won't kill you") was demonstrably false, with a publicly-known incident. The article was more correct than the poster of the parent comment realized. So, it was on-topic.
I acknowledged the shortcomings of using the Yorktown incident to make the point. What more do you want?
Unlike the food example, where bad food could kill you, a computer virus in your home machine won't.
Explain that to the sailors on the USS Yorktown.
Yes, I know it wasn't a virus. It was bad SQL Server-based code. Sadly, Microsoft is equally vulnerable to both.
It seems to me that the toolkit was the GD library. It has to do with painting intersections, exclusions, and inclusions of image regions. However, it's listed at www.boutell.com as being Open Source.
A quick glance at the "external requirements" page at OO.o doesn't list GD. Maybe they've replaced it with their own "thing".
And on top of all this, I don't remember exactly where I saw Pat's explanation. Perhaps in a personal email *g* which I have no way of checking right now because I'm at work.
(If there were a "lame" rating, I know this posting would get it.)
If you are putting GUI configuration on your server, you just broke its small-ness.
The GUI configuration tools on many Linux systems require a slew of other libraries to make them work. Xlib at least, then on to Xm, or GTK+, or Qt, and their requirments.
At least the old "linuxconf" had a CGI mode for web browsers. I believe "webmin" has a Slackware-compatible configuration.
OpenOffice.org is excluded due to licensing restrictions. Specifically, OO.o uses a graphics rendering toolkit that has restrictions Patrick believes are incompatible with the GPL.
At the same time, he has no objections to someone installing it on their own.
That's odd, because I'm using Fedora Core 2, and it's just as easy as you describe for Windows XP. I drop in a blank CD, when the empty window appears, I drag files to it, then select a single menu option to record it. One dialog for sanity, and off it goes.
BTW, your comparison is invalid. It compares the best of what you like with the worst of what you dislike.
Hehe... well, I didn't say that all the old ideas were the best. Just that some of the best ideas are turning out to be (relatively) ancient.
Is this another sign that dynamic languages are the future?
I'm starting to think there are no new ideas any more, just re-hashes of old ideas. Unix, almost 35 years old, looks to be once again the wave of the future. LISP is still teaching us lessons. And the command line is still the most powerful sysadmin tool we have.
Except those birds aren't filled with mercury. That much mercury, in a container with such thin protection, would have to be considered Unsafe for Human Use.
Yet how interesting it is, that Lincoln's most memorable speech, even in its own day, is also one of his shortest.
Oh, and if you're trying to blame Bush for whatever's under your craw, you might check your math. Bush has been President for three years and six months. Sesame Street also has two letters each day, but I guess you can't count that high.
Oh, please. This was a bunch of college kids trying to out-do each other. There were no referees, and the only rule was that you had to make the equipment signal a hit. How you did that was up to you.
He said he was studying it. He didn't say he was subscribing to it.
Back when I was in college, and Laser Tag was relatively new, some smart-aleck wag figured out that it was nothing more than a glorified remote control.
He got a programmable remote (a real one, that read another remote's signal, then duplicated it), put the Laser Tag signal into it, and voila! He had the Laser Tag equivalent of a sawed-off shotgun. He could take out several players at once with it. And often did.
Twenty-five years ago? Apple had just been formed, and Xerox PARC was on the world's first usable GUI.
Point is, people blame MS for the virus epidemic. Microsoft can truly say "Apple has prior art" for virus infections.
From the linked article:
I have yet to see an Apple ad campaign playing up the fact that Macs remain largely virus-free.
Apple will do well not to try that stunt. MacOS was the first home user platform to be afflicted by viruses. When DOS was languishing in stolid austerity, Mac was the platform to play with, especially on college campuses. It proved to be a fertile breeding ground (pun intended).
On the flip side, one could say Apple has been trying longer to harden their systems against viruses.
For stack-based hardware, FORTH is very powerful. A tiny interpreter (even on chip-level) and screamingly fast. PostScript is similarly stack-based, but its huge base vocabulary is less than ideal for beginning programming.
In a similar vein, I've been pondering the feasibility of a no-GP-register CPU. Low addresses (say, the first 31 words) are stored on-chip, the rest in slower memory. Data is accessed via two memory-address registers (a la the M reg in the old 8080, which turned into (HL) in the Z80) to lend itself to load-store internal implementation. 30-bit (or 62-bit) addressing, a RISC architecture, predicates all around, everything vector-able (including predication).
Bah, I'm up too late. Brain is fuzzy.
Well, this subsequent Slashdot story says you need to do it at least 3 times.
The only plag^H^H^H^Hresearch in this case, however, is to figure out how to patent stuff with lots of obvious prior art.
I'd like, just for once, for an Eco-Terrorist to think with their mind, rather than their heart.
Thinking? Who said anything about thinking?
Greenpeace's tactics are the same as anti-Semitism, the Crusades, and James Carville. The only way to get along with their practitioners/followers, is to avoid rational thought as much as possible.
Parent is correct; I mis-stepped. What I meant was that "a gallon of something at one temperature will have a different volume at a different temperature."
Well, at least you didn't say "Grammar Nazi's" or "Grammar Nazis'."
There's just one problem with that. A gallon is a measure of volume, which will vary by temperature. The weight of the gas you pump will stay the same, but it's more difficult to calibrate that kind of sensor on the gas tank. So, you have two options:
Measure volume pumped, and hope your car is level, so that the irregular shape of your tank doesn't affect the sensors inside.
Measure the weight, hope your sensors are correct, and avoid every pothole on the freeway so as not to wear out the sensors prematurely.
Short-circuit explanation: Read the spoof linked from the article. Does it sound familiar? No? I am truly jealous.
The name "419" refers to the Nigerian criminal code section that this spam violates. No idea how many victims it has claimed, but it has been a cottage industry there for about three years now. These arrests should put a dent in the operation.
Since a barcode is merely a specialized format for binary data (similar to a hard drive's RLL, in fact), I'm sure it's a matter of time until someone figures out how to transfer audio data to a print medium, for later retrieval via barcode scanner.
I know a hobbyist magazine back in the '80s used to print entire programs in barcode format. I think it was for the old Radio Shack Model 100 laptop.