A good work around for this is already being done. So developers offer a free version and a paid version. IM+ for example. They have a free version with a few key features removed. If you like it you can buy the paid version.
I didn't like it so I didn't buy it. A few games do the same thing. For example spore.
I still don't understand the argument however. Are they saying that apple should ban cheap software so they no longer need to compete? Or that people will not consider higher priced software even if there is no cheaper competitor simply because everything else is cheaper? Seems to me they just need to suck it up and compete.
And you are implying that open office can not meet those expectations. With the only reason I have seen given so far is simply that the product is not made by microsoft.
I think all apple really needs to do is listen to the people. If they would get off their asses and allow some features people are currently jailbreaking like mad for then they would stay relevant.
Where is my 3rd party push support that has been promised forever? Why can't my google calendar sync over the air without jailbreaking? Why can't I run programs in the background without jailbreaking? Where's my java? Etc.
The biggest problem for me was service. Tmobile does not have 3g in my area and currently has no plays to get 3g in my area. Verizon currently has the worst phones on the planet. So that leaves ATT. And if you want a phone right now the iphone is a great choice.
So I bought it, jailbroke it, and i'm learning to write apps for it. When ATT gets a nice android phone like the iphone then I'll consider it.
But it is useless to get a phone like this without 3g imho. That is why I didn't buy the first gen iphone.
I would argue that the property is not owned by the child, but the parents. So in that case the parent should be able to call and request it be given to them or the child. If they say no, then it is theft.
Seriously, what would you do if you have 2500 dollars and a teacher took it from you and refused to give it back because he claimed it was 'not yours'.
I have those IC3 certs in a drawer in my desk at work. If I leave that job, they will stay there. I fought that program so hard it was disappointing to finally cave and take the exam.
I mean I would hope you know your IT staff knows how to browse the internet and send email BEFORE they were hired.
It may of began that way, but it is so much more now. There are many benefits to using open office beyond it's interface being similar to microsoft office.
For example, being able to read formats microsoft office sucks at. Being able to save as a pdf without installing a 3rd party plugin. Being able to install a plugin to edit PDFs. A consistent interface on linux, mac, and windows (allowing you a migration strategy). I can keep going if I felt like it.
Let me put it this way. I bought and paid for iWork. Recently my work gave me a copy of MS office 2008 for my mac. I now use open office 3 by choice.
Oddly, before that I never used office. But after spending a few minutes with MS office 2008 I enjoyed iWork much more. Then after getting OpenOffice 3 I never looked at iWork again.
I've never been asked if I know windows or office. It is assumed I do because of my education.
I've worked collections, data entry, phone support, software support, programing, report writing, systems administration, network administration, and in this latest stretch even adjunct faculty. I've never had an interview where I was asked if I knew how to use word. I've never given an interview where I have wondered if a person know how to use windows. That is similar to me asking a applicant if they know what a computer is. If they are under 50 they have used windows and office and if they have any background in a white collar field they have been using it for most of their career. If they are fresh out of college or high school you know they used office and windows and was educated on it.
What I have been asked however: 1) How many words per minute can you type? 2) Do you know the formula for X (math for a report job). 3) Can you explain to me what a CNAME is? 4) How much experience do you have with cisco networking equipment? 5) Do you have experience using visual studio in a team environment? 6) How many years administrating solaris do you have? 7) How many years have you been programing in X language? 8) How much do you expect to make? 9) Here, (hands me a length of cable and supplies) make me a crossover cable.
That is just a small sampling and the most common/memorable. My mom who is a personal assistant has over the years has had to move from wordperfect to microsoft office. It has never cost her an interview when they asked if she knew microsoft office and her reply was X years of wordperfect.
Most of these requirements are silly and arbitrary anyways. A good candidate will be able to explain why his lack of direct experience is not an issue, and in doing so show how valuable he is as an asset. A good employer will know talent when it sees it.
It does remind me of a job interview I had when windows xp was released. XP has been out for about 2 years when I went for this interview. It was a shop that made custom business applications for windows. The man interviewing me asked how many years experience I had using windows XP. I told him my home machine was still windows 2000, and my current employer was still using windows 2000. He stated that he was really looking for someone with 5 years experience using and developing windows xp. I quickly thanked him for his time and got out of there.
If you teach a howto class on MS that is not learning how to use a computer. That is learning how to use word. If word changes (and Microsoft HAS to change how word works in order to get you to buy a new version ever few years) then your skills are now worthless. (Just like all my howto books on macromedia products from the past, or how to use VB6/visual studios books).
If you teach them how to use a computer, it won't matter if they sit down behind a machine with office xp, 2000, 97, star office, or openoffice. they will be able to get their job done.
My push for openoffice has nothing to do with it being a better learning tool then microsoft office. My push is that it will save money (and in Michigan the budgets are getting cut like a slasher film). But the switch to open office is going to require a different method of teaching. You can't just teach a howto class on openoffice. that is not a benefit to the students. They are going to have to teach the students how to use a computer. Then they will truly be prepared to use one in the business word.
I'd rather have a user who has never used office 2003, but knows how to use a computer, then a user who is office 2003 certified, but doesn't know how to find mail merge on office 2007.
Hell I'm officially certified by IC3 to use office 2003 and I've never installed or opened it. That is either an example of how easy the test was (in which case why did so many of our staff have problems and so many students fail it the first time), a testament to my awesome l33t skills (doubtful), or a testament to my proper education in high school about how to use a computer.
Unless you are applying for a job as a unix/linux admin.....
I have NEVER used Microsoft office. Well ok, I guess I should say that I have never used most of microsoft office. I used outlook in the past, I've used access in the past. But I have not used Word, Powerpoint, Excel, etc. Never had a class on them, never used them in my job.
What I was brought up on was wordperfect. We didn't have classes in high school that covered spreadsheets. I did learn dbase in high school. What my computer teachers taught me was how to use a graphical interface, how to research information, and how to understand technical writing.
So when I got my first personal computer with windows 98 on it and finally had a need for something other then the blue goodness of wordperfect I found star office. I didn't need any training to use it. I just figured it out.
This year my job required us all to receive a IC3 certification (http://info.certiport.com/yourpersonalpath/ic3Certification/). It consists of three exams. One covered basic windows/computer knowledge, one covered basic internet knowledge, and the last covered microsoft office 2003. I did not even have microsoft office installed on my work computer. I walked into the testing center, took my test, got 100% and walked out.
Why? Am I a computer genius? Hell no! I was taught how to use computers, and not how to use a piece of software.
This is a mindset I'm fixing where I work. I'm in the works of switching the campus to Open Office 3. I dream of a day where we stop teaching how to use Word, and start teaching how to use a computer as a tool to get your job done.
This mindset is why there are so many security problems with windows. The system admins really have no idea what they are doing, instead they are following howto documents.
Administrators should know what they are doing and why they are doing it. Otherwise they are not administrating anything.
You could (assuming debian based) build your own repository. In each systems apt sources you could point it only to that repo. Then you could have a test machine where you test each package. If it works in your environment then you place it in the repo. Finally you have a cron job run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade nightly.
Really, when I applied for my firearms permit I was told by the officer that my payment must be made in the form of money order or cashiers check. No cash would be accepted.
I wonder if I could of sued them and made them take cash.
Yea, I tried a few samples, first it prompted me to trust a unverified certificate and give unknown code...how did it put it...full access to my computer.
Then it was so slow safari asked me if I wanted to kill it.
Well, as my Admin account, I can download an application and drop it in my Application folder. No password is required. Now I can run that application and it can access/Library/Applications, my files, etc. It would stand to reason it could also replace apps in the/Application folder with compromised ones without issue.
With my non-admin account, it prompts for an admin password before letting me copy files in to the/Applications folder.
In fact from apples own security guidelines document they state, "Each user needing administrator access should have an administrator account in addition to a standard or managed account. Administrator users should only use their administrator accounts for administrator purposes. By requiring an administrator to have a personal account for typical use and an administrator account for administrator purposes, you reduce the risk of an administrator performing actions like accidentally reconfiguring secure system preferences."
Seems to the the admin account lets you do some pretty dangerous things without realizing they are dangerous. Like maybe run a script that installs a comprised version of a application.
This is different then ubuntu. In ubuntu you can not simply copy files from your desktop into/usr/local/bin and let anyone run them. You have to specify your password.
Running as an admin is OSX is not a good practice.
If Apple was serious about security, they would have you make a user account and an admin account. This run as admin by design crap is silly.
It was the first thing I changed after getting my mac. I have not needed to login to my admin account besides the first time I set it up. When I need to do something that requires the privileges, it just asks for the user/pass. The upside is it prevents any problems that may develop from hurting anything but my user's home folder.
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My solution. Use ubuntu, ignore the forums. File bug reports and use man pages. WHy bother even reading the noob posts.
Not everyone from a windows background...just everyone left after all of us smart guys moved on.
A good work around for this is already being done. So developers offer a free version and a paid version. IM+ for example. They have a free version with a few key features removed. If you like it you can buy the paid version.
I didn't like it so I didn't buy it. A few games do the same thing. For example spore.
I still don't understand the argument however. Are they saying that apple should ban cheap software so they no longer need to compete? Or that people will not consider higher priced software even if there is no cheaper competitor simply because everything else is cheaper? Seems to me they just need to suck it up and compete.
And you are implying that open office can not meet those expectations. With the only reason I have seen given so far is simply that the product is not made by microsoft.
All you do is sign up for a free developer account and you can download the iphone SDK.
I think all apple really needs to do is listen to the people. If they would get off their asses and allow some features people are currently jailbreaking like mad for then they would stay relevant.
Where is my 3rd party push support that has been promised forever? Why can't my google calendar sync over the air without jailbreaking? Why can't I run programs in the background without jailbreaking? Where's my java? Etc.
The biggest problem for me was service. Tmobile does not have 3g in my area and currently has no plays to get 3g in my area. Verizon currently has the worst phones on the planet. So that leaves ATT. And if you want a phone right now the iphone is a great choice.
So I bought it, jailbroke it, and i'm learning to write apps for it. When ATT gets a nice android phone like the iphone then I'll consider it.
But it is useless to get a phone like this without 3g imho. That is why I didn't buy the first gen iphone.
I would argue that the property is not owned by the child, but the parents. So in that case the parent should be able to call and request it be given to them or the child. If they say no, then it is theft.
Seriously, what would you do if you have 2500 dollars and a teacher took it from you and refused to give it back because he claimed it was 'not yours'.
I have those IC3 certs in a drawer in my desk at work. If I leave that job, they will stay there. I fought that program so hard it was disappointing to finally cave and take the exam.
I mean I would hope you know your IT staff knows how to browse the internet and send email BEFORE they were hired.
It may of began that way, but it is so much more now. There are many benefits to using open office beyond it's interface being similar to microsoft office.
For example, being able to read formats microsoft office sucks at. Being able to save as a pdf without installing a 3rd party plugin. Being able to install a plugin to edit PDFs. A consistent interface on linux, mac, and windows (allowing you a migration strategy). I can keep going if I felt like it.
Let me put it this way. I bought and paid for iWork. Recently my work gave me a copy of MS office 2008 for my mac. I now use open office 3 by choice.
Oddly, before that I never used office. But after spending a few minutes with MS office 2008 I enjoyed iWork much more. Then after getting OpenOffice 3 I never looked at iWork again.
Why do you have to switch to linux just to save office licensing?? Did open office suddenly stop running on windows and macs?
I've never been asked if I know windows or office. It is assumed I do because of my education.
I've worked collections, data entry, phone support, software support, programing, report writing, systems administration, network administration, and in this latest stretch even adjunct faculty. I've never had an interview where I was asked if I knew how to use word. I've never given an interview where I have wondered if a person know how to use windows. That is similar to me asking a applicant if they know what a computer is. If they are under 50 they have used windows and office and if they have any background in a white collar field they have been using it for most of their career. If they are fresh out of college or high school you know they used office and windows and was educated on it.
What I have been asked however:
1) How many words per minute can you type?
2) Do you know the formula for X (math for a report job).
3) Can you explain to me what a CNAME is?
4) How much experience do you have with cisco networking equipment?
5) Do you have experience using visual studio in a team environment?
6) How many years administrating solaris do you have?
7) How many years have you been programing in X language?
8) How much do you expect to make?
9) Here, (hands me a length of cable and supplies) make me a crossover cable.
That is just a small sampling and the most common/memorable. My mom who is a personal assistant has over the years has had to move from wordperfect to microsoft office. It has never cost her an interview when they asked if she knew microsoft office and her reply was X years of wordperfect.
Most of these requirements are silly and arbitrary anyways. A good candidate will be able to explain why his lack of direct experience is not an issue, and in doing so show how valuable he is as an asset. A good employer will know talent when it sees it.
It does remind me of a job interview I had when windows xp was released. XP has been out for about 2 years when I went for this interview. It was a shop that made custom business applications for windows. The man interviewing me asked how many years experience I had using windows XP. I told him my home machine was still windows 2000, and my current employer was still using windows 2000. He stated that he was really looking for someone with 5 years experience using and developing windows xp. I quickly thanked him for his time and got out of there.
One more time for effect.
If you teach a howto class on MS that is not learning how to use a computer. That is learning how to use word. If word changes (and Microsoft HAS to change how word works in order to get you to buy a new version ever few years) then your skills are now worthless. (Just like all my howto books on macromedia products from the past, or how to use VB6/visual studios books).
If you teach them how to use a computer, it won't matter if they sit down behind a machine with office xp, 2000, 97, star office, or openoffice. they will be able to get their job done.
My push for openoffice has nothing to do with it being a better learning tool then microsoft office. My push is that it will save money (and in Michigan the budgets are getting cut like a slasher film). But the switch to open office is going to require a different method of teaching. You can't just teach a howto class on openoffice. that is not a benefit to the students. They are going to have to teach the students how to use a computer. Then they will truly be prepared to use one in the business word.
I'd rather have a user who has never used office 2003, but knows how to use a computer, then a user who is office 2003 certified, but doesn't know how to find mail merge on office 2007.
Hell I'm officially certified by IC3 to use office 2003 and I've never installed or opened it. That is either an example of how easy the test was (in which case why did so many of our staff have problems and so many students fail it the first time), a testament to my awesome l33t skills (doubtful), or a testament to my proper education in high school about how to use a computer.
That can't be her. She has a link that says Free right on the page. Nothing is free don't ya know.
Unless you are applying for a job as a unix/linux admin.....
I have NEVER used Microsoft office. Well ok, I guess I should say that I have never used most of microsoft office. I used outlook in the past, I've used access in the past. But I have not used Word, Powerpoint, Excel, etc. Never had a class on them, never used them in my job.
What I was brought up on was wordperfect. We didn't have classes in high school that covered spreadsheets. I did learn dbase in high school. What my computer teachers taught me was how to use a graphical interface, how to research information, and how to understand technical writing.
So when I got my first personal computer with windows 98 on it and finally had a need for something other then the blue goodness of wordperfect I found star office. I didn't need any training to use it. I just figured it out.
This year my job required us all to receive a IC3 certification (http://info.certiport.com/yourpersonalpath/ic3Certification/). It consists of three exams. One covered basic windows/computer knowledge, one covered basic internet knowledge, and the last covered microsoft office 2003. I did not even have microsoft office installed on my work computer. I walked into the testing center, took my test, got 100% and walked out.
Why? Am I a computer genius? Hell no! I was taught how to use computers, and not how to use a piece of software.
This is a mindset I'm fixing where I work. I'm in the works of switching the campus to Open Office 3. I dream of a day where we stop teaching how to use Word, and start teaching how to use a computer as a tool to get your job done.
I would not have bothered to plead my case. I would of called the police. Theft is theft after all.
What is mass email?
500 messages? 50000? 5?
How many people do I need on my CC line to be a mass email?
This mindset is why there are so many security problems with windows. The system admins really have no idea what they are doing, instead they are following howto documents.
Administrators should know what they are doing and why they are doing it. Otherwise they are not administrating anything.
You could (assuming debian based) build your own repository. In each systems apt sources you could point it only to that repo. Then you could have a test machine where you test each package. If it works in your environment then you place it in the repo. Finally you have a cron job run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade nightly.
Patch management has been achieved.
Really, when I applied for my firearms permit I was told by the officer that my payment must be made in the form of money order or cashiers check. No cash would be accepted.
I wonder if I could of sued them and made them take cash.
Yea, I tried a few samples, first it prompted me to trust a unverified certificate and give unknown code...how did it put it...full access to my computer.
Then it was so slow safari asked me if I wanted to kill it.
Oh yea, this is a flash killer.
Sun: Our OS is so insignificant even we won't develop for it.
Read my comment to Bullet-Dodger below.
Well, as my Admin account, I can download an application and drop it in my Application folder. No password is required. Now I can run that application and it can access /Library /Applications, my files, etc. It would stand to reason it could also replace apps in the /Application folder with compromised ones without issue.
With my non-admin account, it prompts for an admin password before letting me copy files in to the /Applications folder.
In fact from apples own security guidelines document they state,
"Each user needing administrator access should have an administrator account in addition to a standard or managed account. Administrator users should only use their administrator accounts for administrator purposes. By requiring an administrator to have a personal account for typical use and an administrator account for administrator purposes, you reduce the risk of an administrator performing actions like accidentally reconfiguring secure system preferences."
Seems to the the admin account lets you do some pretty dangerous things without realizing they are dangerous. Like maybe run a script that installs a comprised version of a application.
This is different then ubuntu. In ubuntu you can not simply copy files from your desktop into /usr/local/bin and let anyone run them. You have to specify your password.
Running as an admin is OSX is not a good practice.
If Apple was serious about security, they would have you make a user account and an admin account. This run as admin by design crap is silly.
It was the first thing I changed after getting my mac. I have not needed to login to my admin account besides the first time I set it up. When I need to do something that requires the privileges, it just asks for the user/pass. The upside is it prevents any problems that may develop from hurting anything but my user's home folder.