I don't remember where I saw it exactly, but there is a website out there that says that if Michael Moore is as anti-corporate as he likes us to think that he should forget the whole Film distro flim-flam and release this film to the web before he releases it anywhere else.
I agree this. I want to believe that Moore wants to crusade for the little guy, but he seems to benifit quite a bit from the corrupt system that he says he hates. He also conviently forgets about the places he's exploited, like Flynt Michigan.
As much as like some of the stuff in his past, he seems to be in bed with the corps and this stinks heavily of hypocracy. Come on Michael... show us where your heart REALLY is!
This is the type of crap that shows Indiana is such a failure in Education.
Before you fly for the -1, Flamebait mod, let me say that I actually LIVE here and I grew up with this type of idiocy. It doesn't surprise me a bit that an AI can grade an essay on a standardized test as well as a human reader because the human graders were just awful. I took the ISTEP writing test some 15 years ago now and I remember how dumb and incoherent it was. When it comes to this state they are always more interested in style over substance. It's so bad that they litteraly downgrade anyone that uses any creativity at all.
It's not a surprise that this state has so many problems when they teach not how to do things right, but only how to make it LOOK like you are doing things right.
These posts about PhDs are missing the point. I guess I should of wrote that "Masters degree with 15 years experience" or something like it. The amount or level isn't the point...
The point is that there are people with great credentials (school, experience, accomplishment, or whatever) out there that can't get jobs. The overqualification excuse is rampant in HR circles and it allows employers to claim that there is no talent out there. There are plenty of people out there that are able to do the jobs, will move anywhere in the country, don't expect to be paid what others on their level might expect, etc. and they can not get a job.
All the crap that is being spewed by companies that they need outsourcing and H1Bs because there is no one to do the job is bunk. There are people out there capable of doing the job that employeers refuse to hire for various petty reasons. That is the point of the post.
Not only that, but you have to have lower level jobs in every country.
If you follow the logic that pro-outsourcing folks use that "people are going to move up the job ladder" eventually everyone will have to have a Phd and 20 years of experience to get a job in any field. It's become a big pyramid scheme: there are only so many places at the top and innovation can't open up an infinite number of new fields.
Have you forgotten that learning and working with what you like is reward in and of itself for many people?
And I enjoy working with and learning about classical literature, but there are so few job opportunity as a classical literature reader that I decided not to go on and get advanced degrees in that area. So it turns into a hobby.
Practicality has to kick in at some point. I think you will eventually be shedding people that really have talent and won't go into it just because they can't make a living out of it. The number of good people will go down.
Maybe it will, however, improve the quality of the people left because they really want to be there.
What do you mean that there is no strategic long term concern?
I'll tell you just one, a big one... when there is absolutely no reward for going into a technical, I.T. or engineering career then no one is going to go to school to learn these professions.
Then you really WILL lose creativity, innovation, and have a REAL lack of in-country talent.
How can any of these arguments mean anything when most programming is done for internal use only?
If you are getting stuff written for yourself, the open/closed software debate doesn't have any meaning because you aren't going to release it to anyone else!
Someone still have to write all the stuff that is special to the back end of individual enterprises and someone still has to write the needed customizations to existing software, OSS or not.
Looks like there is plenty of opportunity to me... for someone somewhere.
The might fall under the nebulous term "Hacker" to this judge. I am sure that the judge, like most people, don't know what the correct definition of that term means.
I can't get into his mind, but most judges don't have a handle on technology. It's hard to understand exactly how they look at it.
Spammer: these guys are interfering with my business. Spamcop: No, we're not. Judge: Well, I don't understand all these newfangled computer thing... my clerk operates the computer. Since businesses are usually the good guys, I'll put a restraining order on the bad guy and try and figure all this crap out later.
There are still a significant number of politicians that want to see the information economy go away. Indiana is even worse in this regard. They have put tons of money in a dumb attempt to bring manufacturing jobs back and they leave in little things that give companies that could make real cash and create decent jobs major headaches.
If you are going to give out corporate welfare, at least give it out to people that could actually HELP you... jeesh.
I did RTFA, and I still agree that "custom software" is too vague and might be an undefinable concept.
The problem here, once again, is that the creation of software is being defined as a corporate-only or business-only activity.
Since government can't usually see beyond their corporate buddies. This could screw up all types of non-srinkwrapped software, not just OSS but freeware and shareware as well.
Lookie what I found. Here is a press release about X-play at E3... and look what it says about Morgan:
Morgan Webb is well known as one of the true gamer girls in the industry. Objective and passionate, fans look to Morgan for a no-nonsense approach to all the latest and greatest titles. Morgan who will be featured in the July issue of Maxim has also appeared on "ESPN Cold Pizza" and was one of five TechTV talent in Playboy.com's "Women of TechTV" online poll.
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Wow...
I guess you people proved once and for all that Mods use their points to mark down threads with opinions that they don't like.
Wrong.. Michael Moore is the left as Ann Coulter is to the right.
Both can make me equally sick.
I don't remember where I saw it exactly, but there is a website out there that says that if Michael Moore is as anti-corporate as he likes us to think that he should forget the whole Film distro flim-flam and release this film to the web before he releases it anywhere else.
I agree this. I want to believe that Moore wants to crusade for the little guy, but he seems to benifit quite a bit from the corrupt system that he says he hates. He also conviently forgets about the places he's exploited, like Flynt Michigan.
As much as like some of the stuff in his past, he seems to be in bed with the corps and this stinks heavily of hypocracy. Come on Michael... show us where your heart REALLY is!
This is the type of crap that shows Indiana is such a failure in Education.
Before you fly for the -1, Flamebait mod, let me say that I actually LIVE here and I grew up with this type of idiocy. It doesn't surprise me a bit that an AI can grade an essay on a standardized test as well as a human reader because the human graders were just awful. I took the ISTEP writing test some 15 years ago now and I remember how dumb and incoherent it was. When it comes to this state they are always more interested in style over substance. It's so bad that they litteraly downgrade anyone that uses any creativity at all.
It's not a surprise that this state has so many problems when they teach not how to do things right, but only how to make it LOOK like you are doing things right.
No... the problem is that over the Bush years there HAS been a vision of the future.
And that vision is that the future should be controlled by big corporations with no mediation from the government or anyone else.
I love slashdot...
always long involved replies to posts that are meant just to be funny an absurd.
Did they find evidence of offshore outsourcing?
These posts about PhDs are missing the point. I guess I should of wrote that "Masters degree with 15 years experience" or something like it. The amount or level isn't the point...
The point is that there are people with great credentials (school, experience, accomplishment, or whatever) out there that can't get jobs. The overqualification excuse is rampant in HR circles and it allows employers to claim that there is no talent out there. There are plenty of people out there that are able to do the jobs, will move anywhere in the country, don't expect to be paid what others on their level might expect, etc. and they can not get a job.
All the crap that is being spewed by companies that they need outsourcing and H1Bs because there is no one to do the job is bunk. There are people out there capable of doing the job that employeers refuse to hire for various petty reasons. That is the point of the post.
Not only that, but you have to have lower level jobs in every country.
If you follow the logic that pro-outsourcing folks use that "people are going to move up the job ladder" eventually everyone will have to have a Phd and 20 years of experience to get a job in any field. It's become a big pyramid scheme: there are only so many places at the top and innovation can't open up an infinite number of new fields.
None of those jobs listed involve a lot of "innovation" or re-education to move up to a higher level on the job scale.
For most people that read slashdot, it would represent a couple of steps down.
The idea that people can retrain and actually improve their lives in the short term is a joke.
Have you forgotten that learning and working with what you like is reward in and of itself for many people?
And I enjoy working with and learning about classical literature, but there are so few job opportunity as a classical literature reader that I decided not to go on and get advanced degrees in that area. So it turns into a hobby.
Practicality has to kick in at some point. I think you will eventually be shedding people that really have talent and won't go into it just because they can't make a living out of it. The number of good people will go down.
Maybe it will, however, improve the quality of the people left because they really want to be there.
What do you mean that there is no strategic long term concern?
I'll tell you just one, a big one... when there is absolutely no reward for going into a technical, I.T. or engineering career then no one is going to go to school to learn these professions.
Then you really WILL lose creativity, innovation, and have a REAL lack of in-country talent.
The American worker is freed up to pursue a more efficient allocation of his labor.
Like reinforcing his home/cardboard box with duct tape.
The assertion that jobs are being outsourced because there aren't enough people in the USA that have technical credentials is BULL SHIT.
Try telling the guys with PhDs that can't get jobs that there is no talent in this country.
How can any of these arguments mean anything when most programming is done for internal use only?
If you are getting stuff written for yourself, the open/closed software debate doesn't have any meaning because you aren't going to release it to anyone else!
Someone still have to write all the stuff that is special to the back end of individual enterprises and someone still has to write the needed customizations to existing software, OSS or not.
Looks like there is plenty of opportunity to me... for someone somewhere.
The might fall under the nebulous term "Hacker" to this judge. I am sure that the judge, like most people, don't know what the correct definition of that term means.
I can't get into his mind, but most judges don't have a handle on technology. It's hard to understand exactly how they look at it.
Build me a real time simulation of Morgan Webb PLEASE!
This is closer:
Spammer: these guys are interfering with my business.
Spamcop: No, we're not.
Judge: Well, I don't understand all these newfangled computer thing... my clerk operates the computer. Since businesses are usually the good guys, I'll put a restraining order on the bad guy and try and figure all this crap out later.
Someone please post Scott Ricter's personal e-mail address!
It's public knowledge. It was on the Daily Show.
Sounds typical for the Midwestern states.
There are still a significant number of politicians that want to see the information economy go away. Indiana is even worse in this regard. They have put tons of money in a dumb attempt to bring manufacturing jobs back and they leave in little things that give companies that could make real cash and create decent jobs major headaches.
If you are going to give out corporate welfare, at least give it out to people that could actually HELP you... jeesh.
Why does the governmet insist on defining software creation as a corporate-only activity?
should I put on my tinfoil hat now?
I did RTFA, and I still agree that "custom software" is too vague and might be an undefinable concept.
The problem here, once again, is that the creation of software is being defined as a corporate-only or business-only activity.
Since government can't usually see beyond their corporate buddies. This could screw up all types of non-srinkwrapped software, not just OSS but freeware and shareware as well.
HEY IDIOT and all other idiots out there...
"retarded" is NOT a synonym for stupid. Retarded means slow.
Give me a flamebait mod if you want... but I am sick of this word used in this way.
Kinda sounds like George Bush as well... doesn't it?
Lookie what I found. Here is a press release about X-play at E3... and look what it says about Morgan:
Morgan Webb is well known as one of the true gamer girls in the industry. Objective and passionate, fans look to Morgan for a no-nonsense approach to all the latest and greatest titles. Morgan who will be featured in the July issue of Maxim has also appeared on "ESPN Cold Pizza" and was one of five TechTV talent in Playboy.com's "Women of TechTV" online poll.
horray! I can't wait for some Morgan Webb skin!!