Only if Google refused to license it. Google isn't Microsoft or Intel; I doubt they'd go that route.
In fact, since Google has paid for the innovation of this tech, including the R&D for it, patenting it and then allowing companies to license it reduces the barrier since companies that couldn't have paid for the research now have the technique available to them.
Why? Just as you said, they already have anti-copy paper. If you don't want someone to be able to copy your book, simply print using that (of course, that will cause your costs to skyrocket). It's not as if the IR block would prevent the copy, it'd just mean the copy looks like crap (thus potentially impacting your image as a publisher).
In some places, refusing the test carries heavier penalties than taking it and being found legally drunk. Many states consider the issuance of a drivers license to be implied consent by you to submit to chemical testing if you are pulled over. In addition, the penalties for refusing are completely seperate of anything they give you for the actual DUI issue. Even if they can't prove you were drunk, you get still get hit with the refusal.
Then the duty officer notes in his log "Mr X was informed that he has been told he is not allowed to be on the Premisises of REI etc., etc., etc." and when it comes to court, instead of using the form as evidence, the officer involved has to actually testify.
Or something to that effect, in traffic court I noticed that another officer is allowed to testify in the partipating one's place if they have the log/notes. It's part of the "LEO's are officers of the court and asssumed not to have lied" deal.
Because the only thing a fan driven sequel could do is kill the market for an official one?
It's either good and thus picked up by the fanbase as 'we really wish it'd be cannon' and then the company has to deal with the fact that if they ever do a sequel they have to avoid anything brought up in it or deal with lawsuits for 'uncompensated work' or the fan driven sequel sucks balls and lowers overall interest in the franchise.
I see rage and whining because people don't like not getting their way. Period. You can make up as many 'just reasons' for this, but the pure and unadulterated fact of the matter is that the right to decide what does and doesn't get made in relation to a franchise is the franchise owner.
It's not as if they are locking up the franchise and preventing it from being made, they've republished the original game for you how many times now? For fuck's sake, they just did a DS version a little over half a year ago.
I've got nothing against a sequel. What I'm against is the angsty douchery people spout when a company that actually makes the calls decides not to pursue an opportunity to continue a franchise.
"They are giving the middle finger to the fans, it's like they don't care about us at all!" "WTF, If they released a new sequel to this, it'd sell better than Pokemon! They are idiots! Everyone would buy it!" and etc.
Yes, we all know YOU (in the generic sense) would like a sequel. That still doesn't mean the company sees it as a surefire profit maker or that they consider it the best use of their resources. Sometimes it just doesn't make business sense, it just doesn't make sense to spend a dollar to make a buck fifty, when you could otherwise spend it to make a ten spot.
They didn't charge him with trespassing, they indicated he'd been "Trespassed" which means if he returns he'd be charged with tresspassing since they've now told him he isn't welcome there. The form he signed is the formal 'yes, I know you've told me not to come back' that they'd use as proof that he knew he wasn't allowed back if they ever did need to charge him.
So... back to the Loomis guys, REI loss prevention officers and cops.
We go back and forth about why I took it and don't see it as a problem versus why they think it's somehow threatening their personal safety and their property's safety. They're trying to convince me to give my ID to the Loomis guys to write their report. I'm trying to convince them to go fuck themselves that I didn't do anything illegal or otherwise wrong and that Loomis doesn't have any jurisdiction to compel me to give them my ID. Round and round, over and over.
Does it really matter at that point who is the beneficiary of information? They told him to identify himself. Period.
You must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. Otherwise, you don't have to answer any questions if you are detained or arrested, with one important exception. The police may ask for your name if you have been properly detained, and you can be arrested in some states for refusing to give it. If you reasonably fear that your name is incriminating, you can claim the right to remain silent, which may be a defense in case you are arrested anyway.
In almost every jurisdiction that I've ever been in during my life, if an actual office of the law (as opposed to rentacops) demands ID, you provide it. Refusal to do so is illegal. Not having ID on you is one thing, refusing to say who you are is another.
He was in his rights (though a douche looking for trouble) up to the point where he pulled his attitude act with the cops.
They didn't abuse anything, and the actual cops were probably smart enough to realize that the rentacops and the bank security were idiots (or not, it doesn't matter at this point), which is why they didn't hassle him about the picture.
Actually it looks like he wasn't arrested. He was simply detained for refusal to provide ID to the 'real' cops when they showed up, who probably had no interest in being there or dealing with a smart ass.
90% of the people you bump into today would look at you in bewilderment if you asked them what Chrono Trigger was, much less whether they were happy about its treatment on the DS vs. the PS1 or the SNES versions.
It is extremely niche. It was a party based pseudo real-time JRPG that was released over a decade ago for a console that was already a year or so away from being obsolete. It had one real sequel, which was mostly critically panned, and then disappeared from the minds of everyone BUT its fans.
You simply hang in a crowd in which this particular niche is popular enough that you can be fooled into thinking its mainstream.
Is it a good game? Hell yes. I was in college when it came out and between then and a few years later when I used to kill 'salary time' at work playing it in an emulator it's probably second or third on the list of games I've spent the most time playing total in my life (Dungeon Master and Sundog for the ST being the first and contender for second place respectively). But it is NOT main stream. It's not even within the same order of magnitude of being mainstream. You'd have a better shot at telling me Fallout or System Shock were mainstream. At least those were PC games back when 'everyone' was playing PC games in addition to consoles as opposed to today where PC gaming is almost the fourth console in the console wars.
Does it deserve another shot? Hell yes.
But, that doesn't equate to a new Chrono installment being a sure fire win. In fact, the longer a series lies fallow the easier it is to fuck up the revival. Why do you think sequels in the movie business are such iffy propositions?
I could argue with you about the relevancy of Firefly vs. Chrono Trigger, by pointing out such things as how long the DVDs were on the top twenty best sellers for Amazon. I could point out that ChronoTrigger is in the same "niche story vying for space between..." when it comes to JRPG's.
But that allows you to skip the fact that you completely miss the point. Firefly was simply an example.
One out of many.
Many.
The simple and unfortunate truth in life is it's fairly easy for something to obtain and keep a fanbase, it's a bit harder to turn that fanbase into money. And regardless of how holy your cow is, to most of the rest of the world it's just hamburger.
That was something I said in this exact thread already. If you want to continue to argue the point I wasn't making, please continue. Just don't feel like you are actually adding anything to this.
At least, the companies I've all worked for have all done business in this manner:
Have a fairly large cash reserve which is your 'emergency' fund. When you need to aquire a company or other such big ticket item, borrow. Even if you have the cash, investors consider how you are leveraging your credit when looking at whether to buy your stock and being under leveraged is just as bad as being over leveraged (cause you are letting money that could work for you just sit idle, stunting your earnings).
You have to know your audience, and geeks don't like theaters. You have to deal with asshats talking, playing with their damned cell phones, etc.
That's apparently why the folk sitting in front of me last night during my first viewing of the new Star Trek were already on their seventh viewing and were debating the merits of Jane Wyatt and Winona Ryder as Amanda Grayson. Oh, wait...
The difference in tap water and bottled water is primarily the perception of where/who it came from. It never enters the consumer's mind that the water might very well have been bottled from the exact same mains they put theirs from.
You are right, Square does tend to overuse archtypes in their stories. But with the "Written by Square" imprint on them, that makes the bankable. This isn't so for a fan made game.
And honestly, if the stories were that generic, this wouldn't have been an issue, would it? The reason people are interested in the game isn't because it's someone's "Generic JRPG game" that is getting shut down.
In this particular case, the game is a romhack of the orginal. The only thing the modders are really bringing to the picnic is the story, and if that's crap (or not "Square Standard") then they've got nothing. You could rerelease ChronoTrigger as a WiiWare game, and make some cash for relatively little investment, but I doubt you'd be able to make much on "Acclaimed Fan created tribute game" via WiiWare.
No, I'm arguing that just because something was popular and still has some fans doesn't automaticly mean that it'll make money today.
And P.S. chief, my younger siblings cut their teeth on Combat catridges, so save the "oh you just aren't old enough to appreciate it" crap. I've been around long enough to see this story more than once, especially in the video game arena.
Can you make money on a revival product for a old favorite? Hell yes. Is it a sure thing? Fuck no. And stop pretending it is simply because you want it to be.
Fans != sure money.
Jumping into a project "just because they fans demand it" is stupid thing to do. Start a project when you have something to put into it, not just to milk it for the last dregs of money you can. And a fan mod isn't "something to put into it".
<patronization>Ah, how cute, one fan thinks his niche product is less niche than some other fan's niche product.</patronization>
Honestly I like both. And I think both are at the same level of "Gee wiz, who would pay money for that" when it comes to the actual public.
I could argue with you about the relevancy of Firefly vs. Chrono Trigger, by pointing out such things as how long the DVDs were on the top twenty best sellers for Amazon. I could point out that ChronoTrigger is in the same "niche story vying for space between..." when it comes to JRPG's.
But that allows you to skip the fact that you completely miss the point. Firefly was simply an example.
One out of many.
Many.
The simple and unfortunate truth in life is it's fairly easy for something to obtain and keep a fanbase, it's a bit harder to turn that fanbase into money. And regardless of how holy your cow is, to most of the rest of the world it's just hamburger.
Same arguement could be made for Potter Slash fics and yet somehow, I don't see Rowling taping this unlimited market. She keeps muttering something about "purity of the source".
Sadly, that's the same thing people said about a Firefly movie, and yet...
There is a long and storied tradition of a huge fan upswell convincing a company to put for money on a project only for it to fail due to lack of actual sales when the time comes.
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"Dad! There is a video on YouTube of you saying Mom killed you!"
"Damn, I knew I forgot something this week."
If it helps, I'm sure this video is a copyright violation, unless the widow released the original tape under CC license or something...
Only if Google refused to license it. Google isn't Microsoft or Intel; I doubt they'd go that route.
In fact, since Google has paid for the innovation of this tech, including the R&D for it, patenting it and then allowing companies to license it reduces the barrier since companies that couldn't have paid for the research now have the technique available to them.
Why? Just as you said, they already have anti-copy paper. If you don't want someone to be able to copy your book, simply print using that (of course, that will cause your costs to skyrocket). It's not as if the IR block would prevent the copy, it'd just mean the copy looks like crap (thus potentially impacting your image as a publisher).
In some places, refusing the test carries heavier penalties than taking it and being found legally drunk. Many states consider the issuance of a drivers license to be implied consent by you to submit to chemical testing if you are pulled over. In addition, the penalties for refusing are completely seperate of anything they give you for the actual DUI issue. Even if they can't prove you were drunk, you get still get hit with the refusal.
Then the duty officer notes in his log "Mr X was informed that he has been told he is not allowed to be on the Premisises of REI etc., etc., etc." and when it comes to court, instead of using the form as evidence, the officer involved has to actually testify.
Or something to that effect, in traffic court I noticed that another officer is allowed to testify in the partipating one's place if they have the log/notes. It's part of the "LEO's are officers of the court and asssumed not to have lied" deal.
Because the only thing a fan driven sequel could do is kill the market for an official one?
It's either good and thus picked up by the fanbase as 'we really wish it'd be cannon' and then the company has to deal with the fact that if they ever do a sequel they have to avoid anything brought up in it or deal with lawsuits for 'uncompensated work' or the fan driven sequel sucks balls and lowers overall interest in the franchise.
I see rage and whining because people don't like not getting their way. Period. You can make up as many 'just reasons' for this, but the pure and unadulterated fact of the matter is that the right to decide what does and doesn't get made in relation to a franchise is the franchise owner.
It's not as if they are locking up the franchise and preventing it from being made, they've republished the original game for you how many times now? For fuck's sake, they just did a DS version a little over half a year ago.
I've got nothing against a sequel. What I'm against is the angsty douchery people spout when a company that actually makes the calls decides not to pursue an opportunity to continue a franchise.
"They are giving the middle finger to the fans, it's like they don't care about us at all!"
"WTF, If they released a new sequel to this, it'd sell better than Pokemon! They are idiots! Everyone would buy it!"
and etc.
Yes, we all know YOU (in the generic sense) would like a sequel. That still doesn't mean the company sees it as a surefire profit maker or that they consider it the best use of their resources. Sometimes it just doesn't make business sense, it just doesn't make sense to spend a dollar to make a buck fifty, when you could otherwise spend it to make a ten spot.
Yes, yes they were. Very first quoted sentence.
They didn't charge him with trespassing, they indicated he'd been "Trespassed" which means if he returns he'd be charged with tresspassing since they've now told him he isn't welcome there. The form he signed is the formal 'yes, I know you've told me not to come back' that they'd use as proof that he knew he wasn't allowed back if they ever did need to charge him.
Does it really matter at that point who is the beneficiary of information? They told him to identify himself. Period.
Really?
In almost every jurisdiction that I've ever been in during my life, if an actual office of the law (as opposed to rentacops) demands ID, you provide it. Refusal to do so is illegal. Not having ID on you is one thing, refusing to say who you are is another.
He was in his rights (though a douche looking for trouble) up to the point where he pulled his attitude act with the cops.
They didn't abuse anything, and the actual cops were probably smart enough to realize that the rentacops and the bank security were idiots (or not, it doesn't matter at this point), which is why they didn't hassle him about the picture.
Actually it looks like he wasn't arrested. He was simply detained for refusal to provide ID to the 'real' cops when they showed up, who probably had no interest in being there or dealing with a smart ass.
90% of the people you bump into today would look at you in bewilderment if you asked them what Chrono Trigger was, much less whether they were happy about its treatment on the DS vs. the PS1 or the SNES versions.
It is extremely niche. It was a party based pseudo real-time JRPG that was released over a decade ago for a console that was already a year or so away from being obsolete. It had one real sequel, which was mostly critically panned, and then disappeared from the minds of everyone BUT its fans.
You simply hang in a crowd in which this particular niche is popular enough that you can be fooled into thinking its mainstream.
Is it a good game? Hell yes. I was in college when it came out and between then and a few years later when I used to kill 'salary time' at work playing it in an emulator it's probably second or third on the list of games I've spent the most time playing total in my life (Dungeon Master and Sundog for the ST being the first and contender for second place respectively). But it is NOT main stream. It's not even within the same order of magnitude of being mainstream. You'd have a better shot at telling me Fallout or System Shock were mainstream. At least those were PC games back when 'everyone' was playing PC games in addition to consoles as opposed to today where PC gaming is almost the fourth console in the console wars.
Does it deserve another shot? Hell yes.
But, that doesn't equate to a new Chrono installment being a sure fire win. In fact, the longer a series lies fallow the easier it is to fuck up the revival. Why do you think sequels in the movie business are such iffy propositions?
That was something I said in this exact thread already. If you want to continue to argue the point I wasn't making, please continue. Just don't feel like you are actually adding anything to this.
At least, the companies I've all worked for have all done business in this manner:
Have a fairly large cash reserve which is your 'emergency' fund. When you need to aquire a company or other such big ticket item, borrow. Even if you have the cash, investors consider how you are leveraging your credit when looking at whether to buy your stock and being under leveraged is just as bad as being over leveraged (cause you are letting money that could work for you just sit idle, stunting your earnings).
That's apparently why the folk sitting in front of me last night during my first viewing of the new Star Trek were already on their seventh viewing and were debating the merits of Jane Wyatt and Winona Ryder as Amanda Grayson. Oh, wait...
The difference in tap water and bottled water is primarily the perception of where/who it came from. It never enters the consumer's mind that the water might very well have been bottled from the exact same mains they put theirs from.
You are right, Square does tend to overuse archtypes in their stories. But with the "Written by Square" imprint on them, that makes the bankable. This isn't so for a fan made game.
And honestly, if the stories were that generic, this wouldn't have been an issue, would it? The reason people are interested in the game isn't because it's someone's "Generic JRPG game" that is getting shut down.
Have at it; I doubt it was mine originally. It reminds me of something Robert Heinlein would might have said.
In this particular case, the game is a romhack of the orginal. The only thing the modders are really bringing to the picnic is the story, and if that's crap (or not "Square Standard") then they've got nothing. You could rerelease ChronoTrigger as a WiiWare game, and make some cash for relatively little investment, but I doubt you'd be able to make much on "Acclaimed Fan created tribute game" via WiiWare.
No, I'm arguing that just because something was popular and still has some fans doesn't automaticly mean that it'll make money today.
And P.S. chief, my younger siblings cut their teeth on Combat catridges, so save the "oh you just aren't old enough to appreciate it" crap. I've been around long enough to see this story more than once, especially in the video game arena.
Can you make money on a revival product for a old favorite? Hell yes. Is it a sure thing? Fuck no. And stop pretending it is simply because you want it to be.
Fans != sure money.
Jumping into a project "just because they fans demand it" is stupid thing to do. Start a project when you have something to put into it, not just to milk it for the last dregs of money you can. And a fan mod isn't "something to put into it".
<patronization>Ah, how cute, one fan thinks his niche product is less niche than some other fan's niche product.</patronization>
Honestly I like both. And I think both are at the same level of "Gee wiz, who would pay money for that" when it comes to the actual public.
I could argue with you about the relevancy of Firefly vs. Chrono Trigger, by pointing out such things as how long the DVDs were on the top twenty best sellers for Amazon. I could point out that ChronoTrigger is in the same "niche story vying for space between..." when it comes to JRPG's.
But that allows you to skip the fact that you completely miss the point. Firefly was simply an example.
One out of many.
Many.
The simple and unfortunate truth in life is it's fairly easy for something to obtain and keep a fanbase, it's a bit harder to turn that fanbase into money. And regardless of how holy your cow is, to most of the rest of the world it's just hamburger.
Same arguement could be made for Potter Slash fics and yet somehow, I don't see Rowling taping this unlimited market. She keeps muttering something about "purity of the source".
Sadly, that's the same thing people said about a Firefly movie, and yet...
There is a long and storied tradition of a huge fan upswell convincing a company to put for money on a project only for it to fail due to lack of actual sales when the time comes.