Even comparing metro areas to metro areas, the US is slower than many other countries. I would think at least the area around silicon valley should be wired as well as similiar areas of South Korea or Japan.
Doesn't this argument come up everytime something like this is on/.? Besides, the US network falls behind countries with fewer people per square mile. Forget all the extra-city limit folks. Forget the millions of people who still have access to only dialup or sat for connections. Our major and minor cities are still pitifully connected.
Does your contract state you have a dedicated amount of bandwidth? If so setup a process to pull network speed tests at a regular basis and then point out they're not fulfilling their contract.
If there is no dedicated bandwidth clause you might not have much recourse. One reason T1/multi T1/T3 + are more expensive are the dedicated bandwidth you get with them.
Your ATM theory sounds reasonable. A common way to offer DSL service as a non-telco ISP is to have a connection to the telco frame for your DSL pool, back to wherever your internet gateway is. It's not hard to oversell bandwidth this way.
After the '03 outage it made me wonder how safe all those high-rise electrical towers that run across the country are. A stick of dynamite on a tower itself, or even just a few shots with a rifle to the wires attached. Would just one tower lead to another blackout - scary considering those towers are of course everywhere.
I've wondered over the years what someone with a high powered rifle taking potshots at oil/propane/liquid hydrogen tankers on the interstates would do. Mainly this crosses my mind while driving alongside one of them and having seen too many Hollywood movies with things blowing up.
Why not take measures akin to the nuclear facilities? The local ones don't even allow parking right near the facilities, they bus the employees in from remote parking lots on a regular schedule. Let alone the stringent security within the plants.
"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet." --George W Bush, Arlington Heights, Ill,Oct. 24, 2000
The scientific method is for hypothesis, published accounts, scrutiny, and peer review. There's a reason that even the 'laws' of science are still only theories. When new findings lead to new understandings, the theories are changed, revised, or sometimes outright thrown out. Once young earth theories start showing up in Nature or Science, or any of the other myriad of peer reviewed, accepted scientific literature and gets out of the 'fringe' category, I'll happily reconsider it. Until then, I'll still lump 6000 year old creationists along with Scientologists and most other fringe beliefs.
There's a quote that fits perfectly with my understanding of the scientific method:
Agnosticism is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle. Positively, the principle may be expressed as in matters of intellect, follow your reason as far as it can take you without other considerations. And negatively, in matters of the intellect, do not pretend that matters are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable. -- "Agnosticism", 1889
On the other hand, I do know all about belonging to a fringe mindset, I voted for Ron Paul.
I'm not familiar with the venture capital side of things outside of the US. Could it be that the method of funding 10 things, hoping 1 turns out very big to recoup the cost of the 9 failures, is mostly an American phenomena?
For the past two years Nokia has done an annual competition for mobile development. Nokia brought in established Silicon Valley VC's to work with them. If a company the size of Nokia still relys on American companies for funding projects, I can only guess it'll take awhile for top tier Internet sites to be entirely EU based.
Just thought I'd point out that the 'space seed theory' is nothing new. Panspermia has been around a long while. In the modern form since the 1800s.
I agree that many times it does seem that observation based science is lacking. However 'creation scientists' strikes me as as misnomer, unless there's a branch of creationists that believes the world is older than 6000 years old.
Christian scientists, or religious scientists sure, no problem.
For those with faith the hypothesis that life might not have originated on Earth shouldn't be a big deal. The origin of the space life, or the origin of the big bang can still be handled very well within the realm of most religions. If you're a Scientologist it's a given life didn't start here!
Sure life from space shoots the story of Genesis but if the entire bible is to be taken word for word literally, I'm dissapointed that the museum of natural history has no displays for the unicorns and dragons mentioned in it. Let alone the species of whale that would make very eco-friendly human water transport systems ALA Jonah - provided you can stand the smell of whale gut for 3 days.
Faith and science, unless they hit the extreme spectrums, do not have to be mutually exclusive.
I paid for car that can go 120 according to specs. I live in an area that has speed limits of 70 on Interstates. So I paid for something I can only get 70-80% usage out of! Most of the time I'm only getting less than 50% of the max.
On a more serious note, pay per time still exists in areas that charge for wifi access. I cover a small community with meraki wifi units. As it's a vacation home sort of area people pay daily since cottage owners don't pay for cable access. This is pretty typical for many meraki and muni-wifi rollouts.
Pay per bps would suck as you have no idea what content a site will be pushing on you. With flash advertising being so prevalent, for the typical user it would be a 'paying to get advertised to' model. It'd be like paying for basic TV on a premium service like cable or satellite - oh wait, they manage to sucker users there too. On second hand, you just might be on to something.
A business client of mine had every computer in his home taken (I believe 5) on charges of child porn being downloaded from his cable IP address. Then the police said they found 4 videos on a PC and kept pressing for him to admit his wrong doing. Luckily he was past law enforcement, and had a lawyer, so he didn't lie. Long story short - 3 months of hassle and all charges were dropped, all equipment returned, and police admitting there were no files found.
Open wifi along a busy road was most likely to blame.
It's good they didn't plant evidence while trying to get a confession.
He's decided to not pursue anything against the authorities involved, just the public knowledge of the allegation alone would destroy his business and livelihood.
What surprises me most in all of this is that it's mostly a father-son team who have made the Eastern district of Texas such a... laughing stock. Don't all fatherson political teams from Texas end up being a laughstock?
The 1996 telco reform act forced the monopolies to let anyone use the ILEC lines. Not quite publicly owned but pretty close. This saw the real emergence of CLECs, companies able to use better equipment/methods than the standard companies and make a profit. It also was the first real competition for local service that most of the nation had. Sure there were real problems but it was a step in the right direction.
Of course ex-Sec of State Powel's kid, who was put in charge of the FCC, stopped this in the early 2000s.
You are correct - considering we've spent over 200 billion in tax dollars for telco infrastructure enhancements, we should have some amazing broadband everywhere. And that's just the federal level spending, not all the state level waste spending. If they had put that sort of funding out for open bidding we'd have some very amazing broadband.
I don't know of any 'real' issues with Giganews. Their retention rate is impressive and their speed is fast when I had used them, although they are one of the most expensive.
However when I'm giving out advice I try to advice against companies that I have had billing issues with (From the ISP side of things). If I talk about usenet, I suggest who to avoid, if I talk about data lines I suggest people avoid MCI/UUnet like the plague - that sort of thing;)
Having been in the ISP field I have seen too many DMCA notices to not say - watch out for torrents. You can still get served simply because your IP is of the torrents in use.
With that said, I'd suggest a good usenet service - avoid giganews - and a usenet tracker like newzbin.com. You can even SSL usenet nowadays. Safer, easier, and pretty darn easy. Of course, this is/., so you should already know about the wonders of usenet...
Check out the latest US News + World Report. It's the issue with the handgun on the cover. Surprisingly decent coverage on a wide variety of gun issues. It also covers some of the upcoming Supreme court hearing about gun control in D.C. Sometimes it's good to see the media actually giving information out - such a welcome change from endless talking heads and the same news stories over and over.
I assume you mean '85? RFC 959 But even by then leisure suits were on the way out - except for sierra games;)
On a side note, why is the next leisure suit larry game only for the PS3, XBOX, but not the wii. Talk about missing an opportunity for using the wiimote for gameplay...
Mind you, you can't bash the gov't outside of Free Speech Zones if one has been established. The president is in town? Great, go protest in the small fenced in area blocks away - have at it.
Historically the US has had the Alien and Sedition Acts which made it illegal to speak badly against the US or its officials. Although hey, the US has currently suspended habeas corpus so what other 'rights' will be going out the door? If only a tinfoil hat would make me feel better.
Lately the best protests I've seen have been done by billboard liberation which is good in one way, sad in another.
I wonder how they keep the MAC addresses on this stuff straight. Do they copy existing ones so these units slip under the radar? Can you imagine the - albiet small - headache from some counterfeit and real gear having the same MACs, on the same network. It'd be like the old days when DEC NICs would fail and obtain the same MACs - that was fun tracking down!
latency to a sat takes 4 hops round trip. Think about it : Ground Up to Bird, Bird to Ground, Ground back to Bird, Bird back to Ground.
Under 10ms to a satellite is impressive and would actually be workable in the real world. Time to get a fleet of these over the US to break the cable/DSL duopoly!
With the 200 billion + the gov't gave to the baby bells to implement nationwide broadband you could easily build fiber to the home AND a fleet of these satellites.
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Presidential contributions are separate from his congressional run. It's the law.
As to why this thread says 'quit' when it sounds more like scaling back for fiscal conservation is beyond me.
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Even comparing metro areas to metro areas, the US is slower than many other countries. I would think at least the area around silicon valley should be wired as well as similiar areas of South Korea or Japan.
Doesn't this argument come up everytime something like this is on /.? Besides, the US network falls behind countries with fewer people per square mile. Forget all the extra-city limit folks. Forget the millions of people who still have access to only dialup or sat for connections. Our major and minor cities are still pitifully connected.
Does your contract state you have a dedicated amount of bandwidth? If so setup a process to pull network speed tests at a regular basis and then point out they're not fulfilling their contract.
If there is no dedicated bandwidth clause you might not have much recourse. One reason T1/multi T1/T3 + are more expensive are the dedicated bandwidth you get with them.
Your ATM theory sounds reasonable. A common way to offer DSL service as a non-telco ISP is to have a connection to the telco frame for your DSL pool, back to wherever your internet gateway is. It's not hard to oversell bandwidth this way.
Hopefully they can get to the quantum teleportation csu/dsu within my lifetime. Bandwidth without wires will be the only way to compete.
After the '03 outage it made me wonder how safe all those high-rise electrical towers that run across the country are. A stick of dynamite on a tower itself, or even just a few shots with a rifle to the wires attached. Would just one tower lead to another blackout - scary considering those towers are of course everywhere.
I've wondered over the years what someone with a high powered rifle taking potshots at oil/propane/liquid hydrogen tankers on the interstates would do. Mainly this crosses my mind while driving alongside one of them and having seen too many Hollywood movies with things blowing up.
Why not take measures akin to the nuclear facilities? The local ones don't even allow parking right near the facilities, they bus the employees in from remote parking lots on a regular schedule. Let alone the stringent security within the plants.
Contacting them would be the easy thing. But since friendfinder sold for 400 million I'm going to guess this user was trying for a payday.
"It's important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It's not only life of babies, but it's life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet." --George W Bush, Arlington Heights, Ill ,Oct. 24, 2000
The scientific method is for hypothesis, published accounts, scrutiny, and peer review. There's a reason that even the 'laws' of science are still only theories. When new findings lead to new understandings, the theories are changed, revised, or sometimes outright thrown out. Once young earth theories start showing up in Nature or Science, or any of the other myriad of peer reviewed, accepted scientific literature and gets out of the 'fringe' category, I'll happily reconsider it. Until then, I'll still lump 6000 year old creationists along with Scientologists and most other fringe beliefs.
There's a quote that fits perfectly with my understanding of the scientific method :
Agnosticism is not a creed but a method, the essence of which lies in the vigorous application of a single principle. Positively, the principle may be expressed as in matters of intellect, follow your reason as far as it can take you without other considerations. And negatively, in matters of the intellect, do not pretend that matters are certain that are not demonstrated or demonstrable. -- "Agnosticism", 1889
On the other hand, I do know all about belonging to a fringe mindset, I voted for Ron Paul.
I'm not familiar with the venture capital side of things outside of the US. Could it be that the method of funding 10 things, hoping 1 turns out very big to recoup the cost of the 9 failures, is mostly an American phenomena?
For the past two years Nokia has done an annual competition for mobile development. Nokia brought in established Silicon Valley VC's to work with them. If a company the size of Nokia still relys on American companies for funding projects, I can only guess it'll take awhile for top tier Internet sites to be entirely EU based.
Just thought I'd point out that the 'space seed theory' is nothing new. Panspermia has been around a long while. In the modern form since the 1800s.
I agree that many times it does seem that observation based science is lacking. However 'creation scientists' strikes me as as misnomer, unless there's a branch of creationists that believes the world is older than 6000 years old. Christian scientists, or religious scientists sure, no problem.
For those with faith the hypothesis that life might not have originated on Earth shouldn't be a big deal. The origin of the space life, or the origin of the big bang can still be handled very well within the realm of most religions. If you're a Scientologist it's a given life didn't start here!
Sure life from space shoots the story of Genesis but if the entire bible is to be taken word for word literally, I'm dissapointed that the museum of natural history has no displays for the unicorns and dragons mentioned in it. Let alone the species of whale that would make very eco-friendly human water transport systems ALA Jonah - provided you can stand the smell of whale gut for 3 days.
Faith and science, unless they hit the extreme spectrums, do not have to be mutually exclusive.
I paid for car that can go 120 according to specs. I live in an area that has speed limits of 70 on Interstates. So I paid for something I can only get 70-80% usage out of! Most of the time I'm only getting less than 50% of the max.
On a more serious note, pay per time still exists in areas that charge for wifi access. I cover a small community with meraki wifi units. As it's a vacation home sort of area people pay daily since cottage owners don't pay for cable access. This is pretty typical for many meraki and muni-wifi rollouts.
Pay per bps would suck as you have no idea what content a site will be pushing on you. With flash advertising being so prevalent, for the typical user it would be a 'paying to get advertised to' model. It'd be like paying for basic TV on a premium service like cable or satellite - oh wait, they manage to sucker users there too. On second hand, you just might be on to something.
A business client of mine had every computer in his home taken (I believe 5) on charges of child porn being downloaded from his cable IP address. Then the police said they found 4 videos on a PC and kept pressing for him to admit his wrong doing. Luckily he was past law enforcement, and had a lawyer, so he didn't lie. Long story short - 3 months of hassle and all charges were dropped, all equipment returned, and police admitting there were no files found.
Open wifi along a busy road was most likely to blame.
It's good they didn't plant evidence while trying to get a confession.
He's decided to not pursue anything against the authorities involved, just the public knowledge of the allegation alone would destroy his business and livelihood.
http://xkcd.com/250/
Along the same lines plug in a cheapo wireless USB mouse to a nearby cubicle worker, occasionally wiggle the extra mouse.
Or install VNC, and do the random wiggle or extra letter typing.
This doesn't need to be april fools, this is part of the typical geek office 'prank the newb' toolkit.
The 1996 telco reform act forced the monopolies to let anyone use the ILEC lines. Not quite publicly owned but pretty close. This saw the real emergence of CLECs, companies able to use better equipment/methods than the standard companies and make a profit. It also was the first real competition for local service that most of the nation had. Sure there were real problems but it was a step in the right direction.
Of course ex-Sec of State Powel's kid, who was put in charge of the FCC, stopped this in the early 2000s.
You are correct - considering we've spent over 200 billion in tax dollars for telco infrastructure enhancements, we should have some amazing broadband everywhere. And that's just the federal level spending, not all the state level waste spending. If they had put that sort of funding out for open bidding we'd have some very amazing broadband.
Goatse? Why not the FBI link that gets the feds knocking down the doors. So we have
3. Company A's customers go to jail in droves.
4. Company A looks into what the problem is. Company's A employees go to jail.
5. ?
6. Profit!
I don't know of any 'real' issues with Giganews. Their retention rate is impressive and their speed is fast when I had used them, although they are one of the most expensive.
;)
However when I'm giving out advice I try to advice against companies that I have had billing issues with (From the ISP side of things). If I talk about usenet, I suggest who to avoid, if I talk about data lines I suggest people avoid MCI/UUnet like the plague - that sort of thing
Comparison list of providers is a good listing. If only they would list country of origin.
The people behind pirate's bay should hook up a usenet service, I'd switch to them in a heartbeat.
Having been in the ISP field I have seen too many DMCA notices to not say - watch out for torrents. You can still get served simply because your IP is of the torrents in use.
/., so you should already know about the wonders of usenet...
With that said, I'd suggest a good usenet service - avoid giganews - and a usenet tracker like newzbin.com. You can even SSL usenet nowadays. Safer, easier, and pretty darn easy. Of course, this is
Check out the latest US News + World Report. It's the issue with the handgun on the cover. Surprisingly decent coverage on a wide variety of gun issues. It also covers some of the upcoming Supreme court hearing about gun control in D.C. Sometimes it's good to see the media actually giving information out - such a welcome change from endless talking heads and the same news stories over and over.
I assume you mean '85? RFC 959 But even by then leisure suits were on the way out - except for sierra games ;)
On a side note, why is the next leisure suit larry game only for the PS3, XBOX, but not the wii. Talk about missing an opportunity for using the wiimote for gameplay...
Mind you, you can't bash the gov't outside of Free Speech Zones if one has been established. The president is in town? Great, go protest in the small fenced in area blocks away - have at it. Historically the US has had the Alien and Sedition Acts which made it illegal to speak badly against the US or its officials. Although hey, the US has currently suspended habeas corpus so what other 'rights' will be going out the door? If only a tinfoil hat would make me feel better. Lately the best protests I've seen have been done by billboard liberation which is good in one way, sad in another.
I wonder how they keep the MAC addresses on this stuff straight. Do they copy existing ones so these units slip under the radar? Can you imagine the - albiet small - headache from some counterfeit and real gear having the same MACs, on the same network. It'd be like the old days when DEC NICs would fail and obtain the same MACs - that was fun tracking down!
latency to a sat takes 4 hops round trip. Think about it : Ground Up to Bird, Bird to Ground, Ground back to Bird, Bird back to Ground.
Under 10ms to a satellite is impressive and would actually be workable in the real world. Time to get a fleet of these over the US to break the cable/DSL duopoly!
With the 200 billion + the gov't gave to the baby bells to implement nationwide broadband you could easily build fiber to the home AND a fleet of these satellites.
Presidential contributions are separate from his congressional run. It's the law.
As to why this thread says 'quit' when it sounds more like scaling back for fiscal conservation is beyond me.