I am surprised they didn't pay more. They must've threatened him really bad or why would he give up the domain so cheaply otherwise?
I mean we're talking about microsoft. They could've easily cashed out a million (or half a million) for that boy and turned the whole event into a cheap marketing stunt to trigger tons of positive press.
I think both (mike and ms) have lost in this deal. Sorry about that but only for one of them...
Well, that's all good and nice. But the problem I have does not involve moving data from a file to the clipboard/cutbuffer (whatever you want to call it).
All I want is to easily copy/paste between applications without having to worry about accidentially hilighting some text with my mouse during the process.
I want to hit ALT-C and get a copy that does not go away until I hit ALT-C again. I want to be able to paste that copy via ALT-V. The actual keys should ofcourse be customizable, but you get the idea.
I am sick of having to be "careful" in order not to lose my copy-buffer. I don't want to perform three steps (click, CTRL-U, middle click) to replace the text in an text-input field. I want to simply select all text (doubleclick) and paste.
All this stuff is so basic. Windows does it for years, the amiga did it right >10 years ago and I think even the atari worked that way. I really wonder why X is still doing it wrong.
If people love their middle click alternate buffer, leave it the way it is and be happy. But give the rest of us an additional persistent (across "text selections" with your mouse), reliable clipboard-mechanism that doesn't turn every copy-paste operation into an experiment.
Dude, you're full of shit. I won't start on your unbalanced (read: braindead) "drunk pilot" vs "forwarding chain e-mail" analogy. And I won't pick at your hopeless attempt to sound like a businessman by using their meaningless vocabulary ("credibility").
Oh, now I did, excuse me...
Well, at least there's hope that the next time you make a stupid mistake in your job you'll get to swallow your own poison...
Are you sure the same people who would fall for such a scam would be able to decipher such a warning notice? I doubt it, they'll just search for the "next" or "continue anyways" button as they were trained to do by the microsoft UI.
The warning popup is a nice idea but the wording should be much more explicit when the username/password contains patterns that look like a domain name (check for "www." and the like).
So, you found out about xclip, congrats. Now enlighten me, how does that solve our problem? You demonstrated how we can load a file to the clipboard, and? Next time you highlight a piece of text (intentional or by accident) your clipbuffer will be gone. That's the main problem. And ofcourse applications that don't cooperate with copy/paste at all but these seem to be very rare nowadays.
If xclip had a command line switch for "paste now" we could bind that to a key-combo (maybe ALT-C for xclip -o >~/.clipboard and ALT-V for xclip -paste) and be done with. But last time I checked it didn't have such a switch...
Well, if there was an easy ass solution we definately would know about it. We are the people who are plagued by it day in day out. How often have you lost your cutbuffer by accident because you wanted to paste to an input field or just slipped with the mouse..?
By preventing others from using and building on the ideas freely.
In context with the brown SCO thats raining down on us weekly your question really makes you look like you spent the last months (decades?) under a rock or on a beautiful island far from civilization.
Funny, I stumbled over the same thing. I clicked yes and got to see their impressive "blast doors".
From a practical standpoint it makes perfectly sense that their certificate is self-signed. I mean you wouldn't be able to validate it anyways when the rest of the planet has been nuked.
Where is your point? As I see it they donate the bandwidth for free. Just as free software developers donate their time.
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How about feeding the achievements back into debian? I mean, is there a reason not to?
If you want to split (for whatever reason) just do it at the package-level, have one for "userfriendly" and one for "old fashioned"(?) for the affected apps.
I don't see a problem there, I rather see the UL-project as a nice developement and experimentation testbed. Most of the stuff they aim for (like hardware autodetection and such) is just a matter of proper scripting. Once the scripting is done and the necessary "helper"-applications are written it shouldn't be a big deal to adapt the goodness for debian.
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Well, that's the most appropiate description for a wiki that I have read in a while.
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So why doesn't CocaCola just tell us what they claim Pepsi has stolen?
Well, it seems to be hard to write such a daemon, or does anyone else know why nobody has come up with one, yet?
I mean there is a demand. And if I could only find any usable documentation that gives me hints only on how to approach the problem (I'm not familar with X internals) I'd probably try to write one myself.
The fact that there isn't already one out in the wild tells me it's either not possible or really hard to do?
I imagine something simple like screwing the whole middle-click idea (its way too flaky for my taste and I don't like loosing my clipboard when I select something else) and just implementing CTRL-C/CTRL-V properly.
I guess these gloves might be of interest for the military to keep the soldiers triggerfinger unfrosted while his butt is in a warm place (vehicle) anyways.
Okay this may not be an issue in most of todays US war-places. But siberia has lots of oil too y'know..
Stupid nature, why didn't it just put fur on the feet? I bet some overpaid consultant suggested this "clever countercurrent heat exchanger solution" instead. But how did he squeeze that headline on his powerpoint-slides?
I am surprised they didn't pay more.
They must've threatened him really bad or why would he give up the domain so cheaply otherwise?
I mean we're talking about microsoft. They could've easily cashed out a million (or half a million) for that boy and turned the whole event into a cheap marketing stunt to trigger tons of positive press.
I think both (mike and ms) have lost in this deal.
Sorry about that but only for one of them...
PS: Didn't mean to flame you. I think we were just talking about two different problems...
Well, that's all good and nice.
But the problem I have does not involve moving data from a file to the clipboard/cutbuffer (whatever you want to call it).
All I want is to easily copy/paste between applications without having to worry about accidentially hilighting some text with my mouse during the process.
I want to hit ALT-C and get a copy that does not go away until I hit ALT-C again. I want to be able to paste that copy via ALT-V. The actual keys should ofcourse be customizable, but you get the idea.
I am sick of having to be "careful" in order not to lose my copy-buffer.
I don't want to perform three steps (click, CTRL-U, middle click) to replace the text in an text-input field. I want to simply select all text (doubleclick) and paste.
All this stuff is so basic. Windows does it for years, the amiga did it right >10 years ago and I think even the atari worked that way. I really wonder why X is still doing it wrong.
If people love their middle click alternate buffer, leave it the way it is and be happy. But give the rest of us an additional persistent (across "text selections" with your mouse), reliable clipboard-mechanism that doesn't turn every copy-paste operation into an experiment.
Dude, you're full of shit.
I won't start on your unbalanced (read: braindead) "drunk pilot" vs "forwarding chain e-mail" analogy. And I won't pick at your hopeless attempt to sound like a businessman by using their meaningless vocabulary ("credibility").
Oh, now I did, excuse me...
Well, at least there's hope that the next time you make a stupid mistake in your job you'll get to swallow your own poison...
of course, barring the things written by masochists that implement the X Window protocol themselves over a TCP or Unix socket.
You insensitive clod.
No, I haven't done it. But I feel for those who have!
Are you sure the same people who would fall for such a scam would be able to decipher such a warning notice?
I doubt it, they'll just search for the "next" or "continue anyways" button as they were trained to do by the microsoft UI.
The warning popup is a nice idea but the wording should be much more explicit when the username/password contains patterns that look like a domain name (check for "www." and the like).
Huh?
Last time I checked you had to pay for it or it would use a large chunk of precious pixel estate for blinky banners.
So, you found out about xclip, congrats.
Now enlighten me, how does that solve our problem?
You demonstrated how we can load a file to the clipboard, and?
Next time you highlight a piece of text (intentional or by accident) your clipbuffer will be gone. That's the main problem. And ofcourse applications that don't cooperate with copy/paste at all but these seem to be very rare nowadays.
If xclip had a command line switch for "paste now" we could bind that to a key-combo (maybe ALT-C for xclip -o >~/.clipboard and ALT-V for xclip -paste) and be done with. But last time I checked it didn't have such a switch...
Well, if there was an easy ass solution we definately would know about it. We are the people who are plagued by it day in day out.
How often have you lost your cutbuffer by accident because you wanted to paste to an input field or just slipped with the mouse..?
By preventing others from using and building on the ideas freely.
In context with the brown SCO thats raining down on us weekly your question really makes you look like you spent the last months (decades?) under a rock or on a beautiful island far from civilization.
The borg do the same. Anyone know what happens to them in the end?
Maybe they should try to rephrase and clarify that part of the license a bit.
1) In the real world, you can file for a patent on literally anything, and it will often be granted no matter how ludicrous.
I think I can prove your point.
[...] ping [...]
Yeah, we all remember that one, don't we?
(evil backstage laughter)
Smells like paid FUD to me.
Or a strange combination of ignorance and exhibitionism.
Funny, I stumbled over the same thing.
I clicked yes and got to see their impressive "blast doors".
From a practical standpoint it makes perfectly sense that their certificate is self-signed. I mean you wouldn't be able to validate it anyways when the rest of the planet has been nuked.
"Guarantee" is a human concept.
The internet is an evolutionary concept.
Where is your point?
As I see it they donate the bandwidth for free.
Just as free software developers donate their time.
How about feeding the achievements back into debian?
I mean, is there a reason not to?
If you want to split (for whatever reason) just do it at the package-level, have one for "userfriendly" and one for "old fashioned"(?) for the affected apps.
I don't see a problem there, I rather see the UL-project as a nice developement and experimentation testbed. Most of the stuff they aim for (like hardware autodetection and such) is just a matter of proper scripting. Once the scripting is done and the necessary "helper"-applications are written it shouldn't be a big deal to adapt the goodness for debian.
Well, that's the most appropiate description for a wiki that I have read in a while.
So why doesn't CocaCola just tell us what they claim Pepsi has stolen?
/usr/src/linux -iname "sprite.h" | wc -l
$ find
0
$
Dude you do realize your friendster profile is being slashdotted right now?
Well, it seems to be hard to write such a daemon, or does anyone else know why nobody has come up with one, yet?
I mean there is a demand. And if I could only find any usable documentation that gives me hints only on how to approach the problem (I'm not familar with X internals) I'd probably try to write one myself.
The fact that there isn't already one out in the wild tells me it's either not possible or really hard to do?
I imagine something simple like screwing the whole middle-click idea (its way too flaky for my taste and I don't like loosing my clipboard when I select something else) and just implementing CTRL-C/CTRL-V properly.
I guess these gloves might be of interest for the military to keep the soldiers triggerfinger unfrosted while his butt is in a warm place (vehicle) anyways.
Okay this may not be an issue in most of todays US war-places.
But siberia has lots of oil too y'know..
Stupid nature, why didn't it just put fur on the feet?
I bet some overpaid consultant suggested this "clever countercurrent heat exchanger solution" instead. But how did he squeeze that headline on his powerpoint-slides?