Dear ASF,
Those of us involved in developing application and services on the internet would like to thank you for your vigilance and efforts in keeping the internet as open and accessible as possible.
Not only is this important for all of 'us' here in places that depend on the internet for a variety of our needs, but also keeps this infinite store of information and instant communication open and available to developing nations who arguably will need this more than we do. With access to the internet being more ubiquitous, rural schools can have vast libraries and resources which at one time would have cost a fortune to build and/or aquire.
Your efforts have an impact and are appreciated by people who may not even know/understand... and maybe sometimes even yourselves don't know;-)
Thank you very much.
Hah.. that's almost really funny.
Let's forgo the philosophical inquiry as to how people think and perceive their natural world (cuz I believe people may actually think in terms of OOP) I don't see how you can argue you code reuse does not happen in oop
coding to the interface, not the implementation.. ever throw around "some type of List" and use it as an ArrayList, or LinkedList or whatever the heck type of collection it is and just iterate/trafverse through it transparently and w/o worry?
I bet you have, and if you haven't, well then... there it is.
Does that count for re-use?
These wild and crazy things they "just" added called "classes" have actually been around since php4 (which I believe was released sometime in 1999).
PHP5 _IS_ a complete rewrite of PHP's object handling business.
It would be interesting how, in your official definition of OOP, PHP5 seems to fall under the bar for you.
Classes can be declared abstract.
Has the same single-inheritence model as java.
classes can implement interfaces.
visibility of instance methods/vars can be declared public,protected,private
try/catch/throw is there inside (not that that's oop, it is nice, tho)
-steve
That's not entirely true. PHP itself is threadsafe... some third party libraries are NOT... so if you compile some of the third party libraries w/ php, then you might find yourself in a heap of trouble, and you'll find yourself asking WTF is going on here...
So.. the 'official' thing to say would be to use apache 1.x because depending on what you are compiling into php, you just never know.
See? The PHP devs aren't so bad after all.
That's strange.. that didn't happen to me.
What IS interesting is that I thought it was supposed to "Import" the new stuff into ~/Library/Application Support/Thunderbird instead of just ~/Library/TBird
It doesn't.. and the kicker is that I installed the RC literraly minutes before I found they released the.7 release, and the RC put the App data into the Application Support folder (where it should be!)
Ain't that something...
I mean.. let's say someone 'accidentaly receives' your email, in a most un-kosher way because they want to see what you are saying, do you think they are going to care about the 'legally binding' disclaimer at the bottom?
Why not encrypt all the dang emails and be done w/ it... if someone else 'accidentally gets it'... good for them, let them figure out what to do w/ it.. those disclaimers at the bottom are pretty useless if you axe me.
... still looks hotter than the latest Dell box I've seen... and who ever said Apple Computers just look sexy from the outside...
hey... if you zoom up in on the monitor of that picture, I think I can make out the AmigaOS 4 AmiDock running on the bottom of there...
Is plone meant only for a community of users addig/editing content? Or does it work well as a content management/deployment system whose primary focus would be to have a few key players as the ones who submit new content for a website and have an even smaller number of key players approving the content to go live.
I'm looking for a CMS that is meant to make the deployment of webpages on a large website more structured in that the only form of updates is through this submission/approval process, rather than direct ftp access to a docroot. It seems that many reviews of plone say it's great for 'portals' with a community of users (forums and what not), and in my particular case I'm not interested in building a community at all, just "content-dispatch" system.
I think Plone could work for this, but I'm having a hard time coming to a strong conclusion.. if you have the time, could you email me at: steve [at] pagepoint [dot] com with your impression?
thanks
-steve
I'm in the process of reviewing plone and was wondering if you could offer some insight in its suitabality for as an appropiate CMS for my needs... if you get this as an email (and have the time), could you please respond to me at steve [at] pagepoint [dot] com
thanks
-steve
If you neec a complete/killer/one-click setup for the (usually) the latest and chock-full-of extension php builes (also mysql and apache 2) head over to: http://www.serverlogistics.com/software.php.. good stuff..
Just to let you know, I've been running jagwire on my pbook g3/333 for quite some time and recently upgraded to panther... Panther feels a lot more zippier, I am very happy.
I think I'm going to file a claim that I own a copyright to login.h... this way, everytime anyone logs into their system I should be entitled to some roylaties... this should work...
I think the development team dropped that in favor of the ComiZilla project... the port of Moz to the Commodore 64 (... the lead developer's email is apparently mccarthy@mozilla.org).
Sorry, suckah...
As a disclaimer, I am a big fan of PHP, but PHP is as much of an object oriented language as C is... which it's not.
It pretends to be and is wrapped up to be convincingly well enough (and quite usefully) in some regards, but really.. it's not...
Java isn't even completely Object Oriented... with chars and ints and what not... now SmallTalk.. that's pure baby..
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Dear ASF, ... and maybe sometimes even yourselves don't know ;-)
Those of us involved in developing application and services on the internet would like to thank you for your vigilance and efforts in keeping the internet as open and accessible as possible.
Not only is this important for all of 'us' here in places that depend on the internet for a variety of our needs, but also keeps this infinite store of information and instant communication open and available to developing nations who arguably will need this more than we do. With access to the internet being more ubiquitous, rural schools can have vast libraries and resources which at one time would have cost a fortune to build and/or aquire.
Your efforts have an impact and are appreciated by people who may not even know/understand
Thank you very much.
Wow ... the new iMac G5 runs Jaguar!
Brilliant move by apple ... BRILLIANT!
Hah .. that's almost really funny.
Let's forgo the philosophical inquiry as to how people think and perceive their natural world (cuz I believe people may actually think in terms of OOP) I don't see how you can argue you code reuse does not happen in oop
coding to the interface, not the implementation .. ever throw around "some type of List" and use it as an ArrayList, or LinkedList or whatever the heck type of collection it is and just iterate/trafverse through it transparently and w/o worry?
I bet you have, and if you haven't, well then ... there it is.
Does that count for re-use?
These wild and crazy things they "just" added called "classes" have actually been around since php4 (which I believe was released sometime in 1999). PHP5 _IS_ a complete rewrite of PHP's object handling business. It would be interesting how, in your official definition of OOP, PHP5 seems to fall under the bar for you. Classes can be declared abstract. Has the same single-inheritence model as java. classes can implement interfaces. visibility of instance methods/vars can be declared public,protected,private try/catch/throw is there inside (not that that's oop, it is nice, tho) -steve
That's not entirely true. PHP itself is threadsafe ... some third party libraries are NOT ... so if you compile some of the third party libraries w/ php, then you might find yourself in a heap of trouble, and you'll find yourself asking WTF is going on here ...
So .. the 'official' thing to say would be to use apache 1.x because depending on what you are compiling into php, you just never know.
See? The PHP devs aren't so bad after all.
... some folks start X from the command line, soo ...
Use the force ... read the Gecko source.
That's strange .. that didn't happen to me.
What IS interesting is that I thought it was supposed to "Import" the new stuff into ~/Library/Application Support/Thunderbird instead of just ~/Library/TBird
It doesn't .. and the kicker is that I installed the RC literraly minutes before I found they released the .7 release, and the RC put the App data into the Application Support folder (where it should be!)
Ain't that something ...
I mean .. let's say someone 'accidentaly receives' your email, in a most un-kosher way because they want to see what you are saying, do you think they are going to care about the 'legally binding' disclaimer at the bottom?
Why not encrypt all the dang emails and be done w/ it ... if someone else 'accidentally gets it' ... good for them, let them figure out what to do w/ it .. those disclaimers at the bottom are pretty useless if you axe me.
And the Commodore! Long live my C-64 ...
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... still looks hotter than the latest Dell box I've seen ... and who ever said Apple Computers just look sexy from the outside ...
hey ... if you zoom up in on the monitor of that picture, I think I can make out the AmigaOS 4 AmiDock running on the bottom of there ...
Is plone meant only for a community of users addig/editing content? Or does it work well as a content management/deployment system whose primary focus would be to have a few key players as the ones who submit new content for a website and have an even smaller number of key players approving the content to go live. I'm looking for a CMS that is meant to make the deployment of webpages on a large website more structured in that the only form of updates is through this submission/approval process, rather than direct ftp access to a docroot. It seems that many reviews of plone say it's great for 'portals' with a community of users (forums and what not), and in my particular case I'm not interested in building a community at all, just "content-dispatch" system. I think Plone could work for this, but I'm having a hard time coming to a strong conclusion .. if you have the time, could you email me at: steve [at] pagepoint [dot] com with your impression?
thanks
-steve
I'm in the process of reviewing plone and was wondering if you could offer some insight in its suitabality for as an appropiate CMS for my needs ... if you get this as an email (and have the time), could you please respond to me at steve [at] pagepoint [dot] com
thanks
-steve
If you neec a complete/killer/one-click setup for the (usually) the latest and chock-full-of extension php builes (also mysql and apache 2) head over to: http://www.serverlogistics.com/software.php .. good stuff ..
Just to let you know, I've been running jagwire on my pbook g3/333 for quite some time and recently upgraded to panther ... Panther feels a lot more zippier, I am very happy.
Sorry ... the developers moved over the the ComiZilla project ... they figured the port to the Commodore-64 would be more useful.
I think I'm going to file a claim that I own a copyright to login.h ... this way, everytime anyone logs into their system I should be entitled to some roylaties ... this should work ...
I think the development team dropped that in favor of the ComiZilla project ... the port of Moz to the Commodore 64 ( ... the lead developer's email is apparently mccarthy@mozilla.org).
No ... the US gov't doesn't kill you, they just leak your name to the people who really want to kill you ...
Sorry, suckah ...
As a disclaimer, I am a big fan of PHP, but PHP is as much of an object oriented language as C is ... which it's not.
It pretends to be and is wrapped up to be convincingly well enough (and quite usefully) in some regards, but really .. it's not ...
Java isn't even completely Object Oriented ... with chars and ints and what not ... now SmallTalk .. that's pure baby ..