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New iMac Pictures Leaked?

krimmc writes "Pictures have been posted on the internet of the supposed new mac design which will feature the guts of the computer behind the flat panel monitor. The new computers are to debut as early as next week and its creating a buzz among current apple users. News.com has also published coverage of the new design." As with most of these things, we won't really know if it's real until Apple cease and desists the website. Pictures are really crappy looking, so its hard to tell anything anyway.

197 comments

  1. Not Sure by Oculus+Habent · · Score: 5, Informative

    It might be, but it also looks strikingly similar to the Cinema Displays. Apple's home line has been white plastic for a while - eMac, iMac, iBook - and this looks more like brushed aluminum. The poor picture quality makes it hard to tell.

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    1. Re:Not Sure by nickinho · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually it looks nothing like the cinema displays

      And it will of course

      No way is that the iMac
      Nick

    2. Re:Not Sure by Randy+Wang · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, the guy admitted it was a hoax - it's really a 20" LaCie in a PowerBook box. That's why the foam doesn't fit the back!

      Sorry, no linkage (no French, either).

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    3. Re:Not Sure by hype7 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, the guy admitted it was a hoax - it's really a 20" LaCie in a PowerBook box. That's why the foam doesn't fit the back!


      A hoax makes sense. About 6 months ago, MacBidoulle self-retired from the rumour business - it said it was taking too much pressure from the mothership.

      They've stayed pretty true to their word - up until now...

      -- james
    4. Re:Not Sure by krimmc · · Score: 1

      I'd have to agree. Good show in pointing out the foam doesn't fit. Its kinda sad that someone takes the time to take the pictures in an elevator as if they are sneaking a peak...I'm interested to see what these bad boys look like when they debut...

    5. Re:Not Sure by T'hain+Esh+Kelch · · Score: 5, Informative

      And if you want to check why it is a hoax, try this: Open the pictures in Photoshop and look at the RGB channels alone. It says "FAKE" a few places.

    6. Re:Not Sure by Randy+Wang · · Score: 1

      Well, I wouldn't put it past the Good Doctor Jobs to order a total redesign of the entire line if it looked anything like that LaCie. And it'd *still* look spiffy!

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    7. Re:Not Sure by BillX · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's not really visible unless you split the image into CMYK.

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    8. Re:Not Sure by wideBlueSkies · · Score: 1

      I would have suspended my disbelief for a moment longer if I didn't notice that those photos were taken on the floor of an elevator.

      At least that's what it looks like to me. Would anyone actually decorate their home or office like that? Black 'raised dot' floor..aluminum trim.. Bleh....

      wbs.

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    9. Re:Not Sure by idiotnot · · Score: 1

      I lived in Europe for six years.....there's a vast amount of that raised-bubble stuff, um, everywhere. It seemed to be kind of the preferred floor covering for public high-traffic areas. They use it in places where you'd more often see tile in the US.

      I'm having a flashback to pushing an AV cart down a long hallway...

      It's actually not bad stuff, if you're not pushing a cart. Seems to last a long time, and when it does start to get worn, you pull it up just like linoleum, throw down a fresh layer of glue, and roll out a new section.

    10. Re:Not Sure by grahamlee · · Score: 5, Informative

      Indeed, the original story in appleinsider stated that this was an elevator at Paris Charles de Gaulle, where the photographer (a handler) had intercepted the package. Well, that screamed "hoax" at me; Apple don't tend to bundle top-secret prerelease hardware to their expos in the retail packaging. clickety - original story

    11. Re:Not Sure by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny
      That's just there to deceive you into thinking it's a hoax.

      On similar note, Apple will be marketing their latest consumer product on the cover of an upcoming magazine; there was a copy of the magazine cover in the same elevator as the new iMac. Leaked photo here.

    12. Re:Not Sure by BillX · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh, by the way (to those who modded up this crap about the words FAKE FAKE FAKE being encoded into the color channels), these parent and grandparent posts are hoaxes, as well. How many of you actually opened a photo editor and split the channels before modding this insightful? That's what I thought.

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    13. Re:Not Sure by grahamlee · · Score: 1

      Indeed, it doesn't look like that at all.

  2. I dunno... by beaverbrother · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The pictures looked like flatscreen tv's... Could you really fit an imac in there?

    1. Re:I dunno... by Epistax · · Score: 5, Funny

      The previous edition had no floppy drive. Perhaps this one has no hardware at all ;-)

    2. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's, "Behold! For now I wear -the- human pants!" ^_^

    3. Re:I dunno... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The previous edition had no floppy drive. Perhaps this one has no hardware at all ;-)

      Yea, and it'll STILL trounce your Wintel box in Photoshop renders even without a mainboard. ;-)

  3. In English by Arc04 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thanks to google. clicky

    1. Re:In English by Sniffer · · Score: 1

      Even better... the site has it's own english version
      http://hardmac.com/niouzcontenu.php?date=2004-08-2 7#2749

    2. Re:In English by Skim123 · · Score: 1
      I think the Google Pigeons need to work a bit on their translation skills:
      We are unaware of if these photographs are true or false. The machine seems to us well punt, and the history a rocambolesque hair. An airport is today more than ever a protected archi place where nobody can move without monitoring. Being given that one easily finds them on Internet, we deliver them to you.
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    3. Re:In English by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Or you could just go to the English version of the site.

  4. debunked by FrenZon · · Score: 5, Informative

    As sent to the editors:

    This has already been debunked as being just a LaCie panel in an Apple box. See: http://www.engadget.com/entry/3611729073994828/

    Or from the horse's mouth: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?s=&p ostid=666014#post666014

    1. Re:debunked by horza · · Score: 5, Informative

      From the thread, if you import the image into Photoshop and turn on only the blue channel then the word FAKE appears in bold letters in the corner. Nice one.

      Phillip.

  5. Slow news. by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 4, Informative

    The guy who faked the pics admitted to it. Yesterday. They're photos of a LaCie LCD in a powerbook box.

    1. Re:Slow news. by Andreas(R) · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes, even the article sais the Max pictures are a hoax. Yet another article posted on Slashdot without any credibility - the editors should have checked the story better before posting it.

    2. Re:Slow news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, even the article sais the Max pictures are a hoax. Yet another article posted on Slashdot without any credibility - the editors should have checked the story better before posting it.

      What, you think the Slashdot editors can read French? They have enough problems with English...

    3. Re:Slow news. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      the editors should have checked the story better before posting it.

      It was in French, so they just gave up.

      I mean the editors! Not the french, the editors!!

    4. Re:Slow news. by tonywong · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...the editors should have checked the story better before posting it.

      You're new here, aren't you?

  6. That's awesome! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    A monitor in a box? What, with FOAM PADDING?? This is absolutely revolutionary!

    I wonder what those losers in Redmond are thinking now!

  7. Unlikely by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looking at the current G5, much of the space is taken up by cooling apparatus. Surely, there isn't enough room, from what one can see in the picture, to fit a G5 and the requisite hot air pathways/fans and avoid burning off the LCD.

    1. Re:Unlikely by MarcQuadra · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well the pictures linked are bunk but...

      The G5 isn't really so hot of a CPU, the current ones put out about as much wattage at 2GHz as my Athlon-XP at 1.8GHz. It puts out about 50 watts, about half as much as the latest P4 offerings. And contrary to popular belief, it's OK to run your CPU hot, there's no need to cool it down to 50C if it's rated and tested at 80C.

      The G5 tower's design is designed for the case to be cool to the touch and quiet, hence the big fans, the system puts out less heat than an off-the-shelf P4 box. I'm sure Apple would implement some sort of case-as-heatsink for any SFF systems they cook up (pun intended).

      I don't think it would be tough to build a really small G5, you can always underclock/undervolt the bus and CPU to save on heat and energy. Apple also has a history of placing the AC-adapter outside the system, which saves a lot of space.

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  8. For crying out loud by xutopia · · Score: 5, Informative
    There are always pictures like these by Apple fans. If you would have read the comments there is one in particular which should have alerted you :

    "A notre avis, c'est juste un écran habilement retouché.

    [MàJ] Il semble que ces photos aient été posté en premier sur le site AppleInsiders. Nous avons acquis depuis la certitude qu'elles sont fausses."

    Which translates to:

    Our opinion is that is just a picture of a monitor which was touched up.

    It seems they have been posted first on AppleInsiders. We have since found out with certainty that they are false.

    1. Re:For crying out loud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you would have read the comments there is one in particular which should have alerted you

      Yeah, I bet you all feel damn silly for having skimmed right past the telltale comment written in French. A bit further down, there's a comment explaining who did it and why in Ancient Sumerian and a postscript in Aramaic - what's with you fucking slashdot readers, huh? Do a little research before flying off the handle.

    2. Re:For crying out loud by Lars+T. · · Score: 4, Informative

      Or they could have checked the English Edition of MacBidouille

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    3. Re:For crying out loud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, but there's a big difference between Sumerian/Aramaic and French. Sumerian and Aramaic are essentially dead languages while French is a living language used by a bunch of people we wish were dead.

    4. Re:For crying out loud by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 2, Funny

      De az a baj, hogy magyarul leiras nincs.

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    5. Re:For crying out loud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      False analogy. French is much easier for an English speaker to learn than Sumerian. (I know - I've studied both.) Besides, if someone can read the posting to see what the pictures purport to be, one can certainly understand the word fausses. And the Babelfish version is comprehensible enough: "With our opinion, c'est just a skilfully improved screen. To discuss it: http://forum.macbidouille.com/ [ MàJ ] It seems that these photographs were posted in first on the AppleInsiders site. We acquired since the certainty qu'elles are false."

      [The word "improved" here is actually "retouched" - I'd go with "In our opinion, this is just a good job at retouching a photo of a screen. It seems these photos were originally posted on the AppleInsiders site. We have since learned with certainty that they are fakes."]

    6. Re:For crying out loud by the+pickle · · Score: 1

      OK, I'll bite.

      What the hell does that say, and what language is it in? :)

      p

    7. Re:For crying out loud by Charles+Dodgeson · · Score: 1
      What the hell does that say, and what language is it in? :)
      It says (or should say) something like, "The problem is that there is no Hungarian description." The language is something like Hungarian. (I am not fluent in the language, but can get by).
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    8. Re:For crying out loud by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1

      It pains me that a "News for Nerds" site has people who are proud of not being able to read French (don't give me any political reasons; the language is still the language) and compare what used to be the international lingua franca (hence the term) to Ancient Sumerian and Aramaic.

      French, at least in this case, is close enough to English that the phrases "just a screen...retouched...we have acquired...certainty...false" can be picked out in the footnote. Even so, you should be able to use the Babel Fish.

      Also, if you can't at least guess at what a Romance language means, it might be a good idea to start learning one now. Even Interlingua counts. My semifluency in French (probably the only area where Louisiana has a better-than-average educational system) has allowed me to get the gist of Spanish and Italian texts.

    9. Re:For crying out loud by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It pains me that people replying to a post modded almost entirely funny decide to ignore the humour and have a little mini-rant on how everyone should study what they're interested in.

  9. Purposely? by GaussianInteger · · Score: 1

    It seems that as of late, "leaks" have been good publicity for companies. Could it have been an apple authorized leak? Has apple done anything like this in the past?

    1. Re:Purposely? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they have... but by accident. "Premature Specification" was what Steve called it.

      Other than that, Apple doesn't purposely leak.

  10. Site says they are fake by jeriqo · · Score: 5, Informative

    "[MàJ] Il semble que ces photos aient été posté en premier sur le site AppleInsiders. Nous avons acquis depuis la certitude qu'elles sont fausses."

    Translation:
    [Update] It looks like these pictures were first posted on AppleInsiders website. We are now sure that these are fake pictures.

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  11. We waited for that? by evil+carrot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Well, the box resembles the kind an Apple display comes in. The unit itself looks similar to pictures I've seen of the recent aluminum displays. I'm not convinced.

    If popular convention has it that the iMac is going G5, and the computer will be set up as in the picture, then does that mean cooling problems have been solved? If so, why not placate the power users who crave portability and offer a PowerBook G5 before catering to the lower-tier market within which the iMac resides?

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    1. Re:We waited for that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why a desktop before a powerbook?

      Well, it's not just heat problems they have to worry about, but battery life too. Also, it would be easier to cool a desktop than a powerbook... I could go on on the logistics of it.

      But sure, we would all love a PB G5 soon... I'm waiting for a PB G5 15" Rev B myself.

    2. Re:We waited for that? by Jozer99 · · Score: 1

      You don't understand, this picture IS FAKE! It has the words "FAKE" hidden in the blue channel of the image. It may be that the actual iMac may look something like this, but this is a hoax, and any future coincidence is completely random, the person who did this had more idea of what the new iMac would look like than me or CowboyNeil.

    3. Re:We waited for that? by linguae · · Score: 1, Troll
      If so, why not placate the power users who crave portability and offer a PowerBook G5 before catering to the lower-tier market within which the iMac resides?

      There are two things, though. The G5 is a very hot processor. Whereas putting a hot processor in a desktop computer is one thing (they don't have to move it around, so the users wouldn't care about some heat as long as its not melting or its a heater), putting that same G5 in a portable computer is another thing. Users of portable computers demand having a cool (literally) computer just about all the time, and I don't think Apple is ready to put the G5 in the PowerBook yet (not unless it want to recreate the Macintosh Portable or something). I think that the new iMac would have enough room to support (and cool down) the G5 processor in it (although I think that the current pictures are fake).

      Another interesting that you stated is that Apple is putting its G5 in a consumer based computer before in its professional notebook. Although it is kind of odd, remember that the iMac is Apple's mid-range desktop computer. This is the first time that Apple has had two seperate consumer based desktops (eMac and iMac) since the days that Jobs returned, so I'm actually not too surprised that the iMac would have a better processor than the PowerBook. With the G5 processor in it, it fills up a gap between the eMac (Apple's low-range desktop) and the PowerMac (Apple's professional desktop). It's good that Apple is refreshing its iMac line now, since sales of the iMac G4 weren't going too well IIRC (in fact, an eMac was a better deal at times than an iMac). With a complete iMac refresh, the mid-range iMac line makes sense, again.

      I believe that the PowerBook would finally get a G5 processor sometime in 2005-2006. But, what would be completely weird is if that eMac gets a G5 first....

    4. Re:We waited for that? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "why not placate the power users who crave portability and offer a PowerBook G5 before catering to the lower-tier market within which the iMac resides?"

      Perhaps because the iMac can be plugged in where as the PowerBook is intended to run off of a battery.

    5. Re:We waited for that? by evil+carrot · · Score: 1

      No, I do understand. I knew it was fake before posting. A random outburst would seem far less redundant than joining the sea of posters claiming it was a fraud.

      I did it all for the karma.

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  12. iMac Lite by kjones692 · · Score: 1, Troll

    Perhaps it's a sneak preview of the new iMac Lite... now sans processor, hard drive, or any of those other annoying remnants of the Wintel world. Yup, this is a revolutionary new design for Apple.

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  13. The article itself admits the photos are false... by vorpal22 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nous avons acquis depuis la certitude qu'elles sont fausses

    Roughly translated (my French is far from perfect): We have discovered with certainty that they're fake.

  14. Pictures Fake by JM+Apocalypse · · Score: 2, Informative

    In the other forums that have already covered this, such as Mac Rumors and AppleInsider, evidence suggests that the pictures are not the iMac.

    But, this can mean many things. It can be the new apple display, or a completely unannounced product. But, just as likely, it is an old display, or something photoshopped to look like something new from Apple that is not from apple at all.

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    1. Re:Pictures Fake by FyRE666 · · Score: 1

      Apparently if you view the original image (I think the ones linked are resized copies) in Photoshop and view only the blue channel, the word "FAKE" is written across the top right.

  15. 20th Anniversary?? by autojive · · Score: 1

    This reminds me more of the 10th anniversary MacIntosh. Could this be similar, maybe a 20th anniversary Mac, and not the new iMac?

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    1. Re:20th Anniversary?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya, they already had a 20th, it was called the TAM. What that stands for is an excersize left for the reader.

      http://tam.axon.net/

  16. Mirrors... by beaverbrother · · Score: 1
    Mirror of the pics (before a slashdotting):

    pic 1

    pic 2

    1. Re:Mirrors... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations. You just helped to further a hoax that's already been debunked.

    2. Re:Mirrors... by Jesrad · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the mirror but... that was unnecessary, due to the brand new macbidouille server (MBServ4) and the fat 100 mbps link, there was no slashdotting felt this time.

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  17. Re:In English? by DrLZRDMN · · Score: 4, Funny

    The machine seems to us well punt, and the history a rocambolesque hair.

    Automatic translaton systems never fail...to amuse and confuse.

  18. A vertical tablet-PC? by pla · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Can't help but think this doesn't really seem all that revolutionary of a design. With the original iMac, they made the monitor and the PC the same nice compact unit. This just takes the next logical step now that flat panel displays have come to the mainstream.

    Also doesn't seem all that much of a leap from a tablet PC... Make one a bit bigger, and add ports for all the standard peripherals, and mount it vertically. Poof, you have the new iMac.

    I will, however, give Apple credit for doing it first. Might not seem like a real leap o' engineering, but I've looked forward to exactly this form-factor. If they make it use a wireless keyboard and optical mouse as well... Oooh, what a wonderful thought! A literally one-wire PC (two if you still use a wired LAN).

    Just sell it for under $1000, and I'll take three (and here we run into the reason for which I will probably never buy a Mac... I'd guess a starting price of $1600-$2400, depending on how decked out they make it).

    1. Re:A vertical tablet-PC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, you flunked the intelligence test for being a Apple user.

      It's a hoax nimrod...so you get to keep your money.

    2. Re:A vertical tablet-PC? by Methuseus · · Score: 1

      Hmmmm, you'd give credit to Apple for this? Even though it's a hoax? Even though 2 years ago I saw a similar format PC? Not quite as thin, but then that's cause it's just a flat panel monitor.

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    3. Re:A vertical tablet-PC? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look around on the buympc.com site...this design is nothing new. Last semester, my school was getting ready to switch to the laptop-flipped-inside-out-on-a-stand form factor for some of its classrooms.

      And besides, the apple thing is a hoax.

  19. it's a FAKE by antani · · Score: 0
  20. what have people come to? by wobblie · · Score: 1

    This site has pictures of apple ads. As if the ads themselves weren't enough, we have to have Mac fanboys posting pictures of them on websites. WTF?

    1. Re:what have people come to? by 33degrees · · Score: 1

      The pictures are all related to the upcoming apple expo in Paris. The first picture is of the conference center where the keynote is going to be held, the second is of the exposition hall where the expo itself will take place, and the third is of an advertisement, announcing the expo. Not all that interesting for most people, but understandable for a mac fan site. A bit more interesting is the circa 1984 picture of the silver apple jacket with built in speakers, further down...

  21. SlashdotRumors by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 1

    I don't even believe the Mac sites that I read religiously because too many of the contributors are fanboyz with a copy of photoshop (pirated, no doubt) and too much time on their hands.

    So I have to be inflicted with the same fictions on slashdot? At least give me fiction with a slight chance of being true like, oh, Longhorn really being released in ought-six. Naaah, that defies credulity, too.

    1. Re:SlashdotRumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      At least give me fiction with a slight chance of being true like, oh, Longhorn really being released in ought-six. Naaah, that defies credulity, too.

      ...dagnabbit!!

  22. When you think it can't get worse by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 5, Informative
    /. somehow disqualifies itself by spreading such an obvious hoax hours after it was debunked by the creator himself:

    http://hush.cc/fakeduh.jpg

    Read about it on AppleInsider

  23. LaCie Pictures by __aanonl8035 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are some original pictures of a LaCie for comparison.
    http://dp-now.com/archives/000349.html
    One
    http://www.shutterbug.net/test_reports/1001sb_laci e/
    Two

    1. Re: LaCie Pictures by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Funny, the first link (an article from september '03) claims the photon20vision is a new model, but I bought one several months before that...

      Excellent panel, BTW; the viewing angle is basically any angle you physically can view it from, zero dead pixels (not sure whether this is guaranteed, but mine is perfect), very bright, fast.

  24. Unearthly glow by SilentChris · · Score: 2, Funny

    What's that unearthly glow coming out of the cardboard box?

    1. Re:Unearthly glow by austad · · Score: 1

      Pulp Fiction style... You buy an apple, your soul is placed into the box and sent to steve jobs.

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    2. Re:Unearthly glow by GoRK · · Score: 1

      Well while it's a hoax, the image itself is mostly real. That is a powerbook box and most likely the image was overexposed so that you couldn't tell that the styrofoam molds where the same as in a powerbook box.

  25. Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 3, Funny
    Quick, get it before Apple legal takes down that site:

    iMac G5

    1. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quick, get it before Apple legal takes down that site:

      Uh, yeah. "its mobile" should be "it*'*s mobile" with an apostrophe. Jeez, if you're going to fake something, fake good grammar :-p

    2. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1
      Uh, yeah. "its mobile" should be "it*'*s mobile" with an apostrophe. Jeez, if you're going to fake something, fake good grammar :-p

      Sorry, it's not mine. Found it here. As well as the other one.

    3. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 1

      Obvious Photoshop as you can see the Apple logo is both crooked and off center. Other then that, this very well could be feasible.

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    4. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1
      Obvious Photoshop as you can see the Apple logo is both crooked and off center.

      Damn. You got me.

      Ok, now these are the real brand new Apple tablets to be released on Tuesday in Paris.

      This time they don't only come in different sizes, but colors too! I swear. This time it is for real. Come on. Do I look like I would pull your leg?

    5. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by mios · · Score: 1

      Wow ... the new iMac G5 runs Jaguar! Brilliant move by apple ... BRILLIANT!

    6. Re:Total crap. Real leaked pics only here: by commodoresloat · · Score: 1
      Other then that, this very well could be feasible.

      I want some of what you're smoking.

  26. Hosted on Mac.com by artemis67 · · Score: 1

    The original picture is hosted on Mac.com... if htere was anything to this, Apple would have shut him down by now.

    1. Re:Hosted on Mac.com by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Someone claimed to have posted stolen pics of the iMac G5 taken in an elevator at the Charles de Gaulle airport in Paris. They were available on a .Mac account for about 90mins before they were taken down. (http://homepage.mac.com/ihepworth/PhotoAlbum1.htm l)"

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  27. Gasp! by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 3, Funny
    What's that unearthly glow coming out of the cardboard box?

    Steve Jobs' Reality Distortion Field (TM). So the thing must be real. Gasp!

  28. Is this actually the Apple Tablet? by Chess_the_cat · · Score: 2, Interesting
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    1. Re:Is this actually the Apple Tablet? by shawnce · · Score: 1

      Yeah if you like having a 17"+ tablet on your laptop or under your arm. :-)

  29. heh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and you burned subscriber points on that...

  30. Re:Who cares! by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

    For being dead, Apple sure is a big company. Huge market share isn't the only measure of success.

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  31. Grammer Natzi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The 'h' in hoax is pronounced, therefore the indefinite article preceding it should be 'a' rather than 'an'. 'An' may only be used to modify words that begin with a vowel or are pronounced with a leading vowel.

    "An honest opinion", "A house", "A Yuletide log"

    "A hoax"

    1. Re:Grammer Natzi by martinX · · Score: 3, Funny

      It is an 'oax.

      helps if you say it in a Cleese accent :-)

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    2. Re:Grammer Natzi by antani · · Score: 0


      I'm italian so pixxa spaag getty mandu leenou!

      I've learned my engrish w/slashdot ;)

      bye

    3. Re:Grammer Natzi by kalidasa · · Score: 1

      You mean like "an historian"?

  32. While these are certainly a hoax... by slux · · Score: 2, Informative
    The Ipodfrance galleries also feature this...
    (Coral link)

    It looks somewhat more convincing although it's very bad quality and could really be something completely different, but at least it does looks somewhat like Apple hardware and has never been seen before...

    1. Re:While these are certainly a hoax... by Stuart+Gibson · · Score: 1

      No, that's a Toshiba 15" LCD television. Picture here

      Stuart

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    2. Re:While these are certainly a hoax... by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 2, Informative
      that's a Toshiba 15" LCD television

      Yup. A moderator at the AppleInsider forum found this version. Hmmmmm, do you think it looks somehow familiar? :-D

  33. whether it's fake or not-- by toby · · Score: 2, Funny
    Why, for goodness' sake, would you post pictures of a supposedly unreleased Mac on a mac.com homepage???

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    1. Re:whether it's fake or not-- by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, why the hell not?

  34. One more picture... by Chuck+Bucket · · Score: 1

    here my doubts would be why would they only take pics while it was still in its box? take it out, set it up the way it should be, then snap some shots. seems suspect, plus it's gray, not the candy coloured lighted thingy we're expecting. perhaps it looks diff on, and again, why not power it up if it's real?

    (protest bush)

    CB

  35. Quote by pjt33 · · Score: 1
    A quote from my Natural Language Processing lectures (lectured by Ted Briscoe, before anyone accuses me of lack of attribution):
    The official policy was that all translation of official French at conferences and things had to be more verbose and worse. That's roughly what the law said, which was seen as a good thing for machine translation.
  36. Oh My God by pHatidic · · Score: 2, Funny

    Oh My God it's in some freaky alien language. I always knew Steve Jobs was an alien. No wonder the aliens are always the first to know about the new Apple products.

  37. Sensible design (even if faked) by G4from128k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although the photos may be fake, the design is sound. A 17 inch or 20 inch LCD creates a massive space of real estate in the back -- plenty of room for a mobo, powersupply, drive bays, etc.

    Cooling would only be trick if Apple insists on passive cooling (which is just the type of thing Jobs might do). Even this would not be that hard an engineering problem because the height of the monitor provides an excellent chimney effect for passive cooling. Mounting the G5 (and other hot electronics) at the base of the unit and allowing the G5-heated air to rise the height of the monitor would provide a fairly nice draft (at least 4-8 times the cooling capacity of the ill-fated PowerMac Cube). An auxillary fan might be used if needed (a large low-RPM exhaust fan in the center top could provide extra airflow if needed).

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    1. Re:Sensible design (even if faked) by glennrrr · · Score: 5, Informative

      I remember watching the introduction of the current "desk lamp" iMac. Steve Jobs was emphatic about the computer built into a flat screen monitor was a bad idea. He gave the example of taking an original iMac and removing the CRT; the optical drive wants to be horizontal; the monitor wants to be vertical. If you wanted the whole unit to be flat, you had to mount the optical drive at a severe angle, which drive technology at the time would not allow while maintaining full speed and reliability. Good design required keeping the intrinsically horizontal separate from the intrinsically vertical.

      Now, if there has been advancement in vertically mounted optical drives, in that there are drives available which are fast while spinning at any arbitrary angle, then this whole calculus changes.

    2. Re:Sensible design (even if faked) by Echnin · · Score: 1

      Vertically mounted optical drives are a bad idea? Hm, they're not that uncommon for compact desktops here in Japan, and the PS2 can be mounted that way. You're not talking about the hard drive, are you?

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  38. OMG by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1
    I got moderated +1 "Interesting".

    Maybe i should have chosen this one? :)

  39. Gateway is already there by Lxy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Gateway is already on its 5th generation of such a product. The Profile is very similar in description, but has been out for quite a few years. I find it hard to believe tht Apple would try to imitate an existing product, Steve Jobs seem more innovative than that when it comes to packaging hardware.

    Why does Slashdot insist on posting every single Mac rumor? 99% of these things are bogus, and are usually debunked within 10 replies. It's not news, it's just crap.

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    1. Re:Gateway is already there by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "every single Mac rumor"? Well if you keep up with the sites that are totally geared toward Apple and Mac you'd know that what appears on /. is only a small trickle of everything that is rumored in the Apple/Mac world. It's actually very few that make it to /.

      You could as well argue why /. posts every M$ rumor... most of that is "crap" as well... :-)

    2. Re:Gateway is already there by PunkPig · · Score: 1

      You must not visit Mac rumor sites if you think Slashdot posts every single Mac rumor.

  40. Re:Who cares! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do. I was helping a desginer buy a mac a few weeks back and we were so disappointed by the lack of range/availablity and the quality of macs which were for sale just did not pass the mark.
    In the end he ended up spending over 3000 uk pounds for a top of the range home built pc to meet his work needs.
    Too bad Apple, when you forget the basics like actually having products in stock to sell to customers instead of dirty and damaged display models and the dreaded "We'll have to order that for you" response from sales staff you lose big.

  41. I-Opener by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I will, however, give Apple credit for doing it first."

    Two strikes.

    If it were real, Apple wouldn't be the first.

  42. Re:eh? by datadriven · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    First posts are so insightful, I can see why the missed opportunity would upset you.

  43. Re:Who cares! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ok

    Apple

  44. Slash-bore by xmpcray · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    What has happened to slashdot lately. All you read about is gmail's rumors, apple's hoaxes, linux' greatness and MS bashing.

    Is that all nerds want to read? There is more technology out there...more pr0n...lets not forget star wars...

    .

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  45. Spelling Nazi by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 2, Informative

    It is "Grammar," not "Grammer," and "Nazi," not "Natzi." And "an" can precede words beginning in "h" (e. g. "an historical occasion"). That letter is a breathing, not generally considered a true consonant. In Greek, for example, the sound does not merit its own letter, but is represented by a diacritical mark over the vowel.

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    1. Re:Spelling Nazi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The Oxford English Dictionary, whose opinion I'll take over yours, says that "grammar" can also be spelt "grammer". In either case, the word's derived from the Frog "grimoire".

      And I suspect that 'e thought 'e was bein' funny when 'e wrote 'oax. (Or the Cockney in him rose to the challenge).

    2. Re:Spelling Nazi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The OED is a descriptive dictionary, not a prescriptive one. If it gives "grammer" as a spelling, it is probably because it was a common spelling historically, common enough to have been considered a normal variant at the time. Nowadays, it is spelled "grammar," as any . By the way, it is derived ultimately from "gramma," the Greek word for "word". The French "grimoire" might be the proximate source of the borrowing, but there's a known tendency in English to reform borrowings to make them accord more closely to Latin and Greek, even when the words are taken from French. That, by the way, is the source of the whole "h" is a a breathing thing - in English, it IS a consonant, but classically inspired grammarians read it as an aspirate and so allowed "an" to occur before it. It's an Anglicism nowadays.

    3. Re:Spelling Nazi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that it was mostly French words such as honor and homage which may have the 'h' sound correctly left out. For example, 'it is an honor meeting you' is correct where as 'it is an house meeting, you [reknob]' is not.

  46. Details on the hoax by intx13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Just for those who don't feel like reading through the article and associated forum: An apple fanboy created this photo with some ingenuity and photoshop and posted it as if it came from a third party. If you view the photo's blue channel only, you can see the following image Notice the words "fake fake fake" in the corner. Later on the forum Philbot (who was caught as the purpotrator of another hoax last year) admitted the deed. Oh those crazy apple geeks...

    1. Re:Details on the hoax by JPickard · · Score: 1

      This is untrue, the photo you linked to is not one of the two photos posted on the original site. Also, neither of the two photos on the original site have 'fake fake fake' in the corner.

    2. Re:Details on the hoax by QuickFox · · Score: 1

      If you view the photo's blue channel only, you can see the following image

      I tried splitting the two photos on that page and did not find any such text. How many people here have tried? Looks like somebody is trolling.

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    3. Re:Details on the hoax by QuickFox · · Score: 1

      Turns out the photos in the page linked in the original /. writeup do not have those words embedded, the photo on this page does have them.

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  47. Curious by Udo+Schmitz · · Score: 1
    Later on the forum Philbot (who was caught as the purpotrator of another hoax last year)

    Curious: What was his other hoax?

  48. rediculous vest by dubiousmike · · Score: 1

    did anyone see the rediculous apple vest? was that a fake too? it looked like a prop from a 70's space movie. Or was that just a Lacie vest in disguise? French fashion!

  49. You could fit a PC in there... by norminator · · Score: 0

    Having already read the post above which says this is an admitted hoax...

    The pictures actually look a lot like the PC's made by this company I used to have one of these sitting on my desk at work... a speedy enough PC, but way loud because of the fan. Really, it's not a sexy enough design for Apple. Honestly, look at the colors, it would have to be a hoax.

  50. ROFLMAO! - Mod parent up by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1

    Flamebait? That's a hilarious post, you tone-deaf fundamentalist!

  51. You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. The bad spelling was obviously on purpose

    2. This is English where a voice 'h' is preceded by an 'an'. Just because the Greeks have their own rules does not mean that those rules pertain to English.

    1. Re:You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only things Greeks are authorities on is grappa & butt-sex.

    2. Re:You're kidding, right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget violating sheep. They're real pioneers on that front as well.

  52. The Monitor is for the new iMac! by rogerborn · · Score: 2, Funny

    I've seen the new iMac!

    It must be only for pointy haired bosses.

    Can you say Etch-A-Sketch?

    =)

  53. Screw the new iMac, I want a new eMac... by argent · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    All together now, "NO CRUMMY MONITORS IN PRETTY BOXES". If you're not going to fork out for a Trinitron-class screen in the eMac, Steve, don't put a monitor in it at all. You're saving fifty bucks with that ugly shadow mask, and condemning your customers to eyestrain.

    1. Re:Screw the new iMac, I want a new eMac... by Meowing · · Score: 1

      Shadow masks are superior for text legibiity (sharpness). Aperature grilles provide better color. You want what Apple is using if eye strain is your concern, shadow masks are for graphics.

    2. Re:Screw the new iMac, I want a new eMac... by argent · · Score: 1

      Shadow masks are superior for text legibiity (sharpness).

      I nearly think that you are engaged in some playful hoax, attempting by dissimulation to deceive me, or have the two schemes somehow muddled in your mind. Text contains a multitude of strong horizontal and vertical lines, lines that are emphasised and sharpened by aperture grille displays, and blurred by the jogged rows of pixels of shadow masks.

      My dear friend mister Google has provided me with a few pages that repeat this assertion of yours, but none of them explain why it should be so. There is some talk, one might best characterise it with the vulgar term "handwaving", about the supposed superior precision of the shadow mask... but never any explanation as to why this supposed superior precision is inherent in the technology. Since my own experience over many years is that shadow masks tend to break up the fine details of text with a distracting moire, and I have never seen signs of any artifacts (such as banding in large regions of pure color) that would inevitably result from any corresponding lack of precision in aiming electron beams through an aperture grille, I find myself speculating that perhaps this conventional wisdom is based on some long-forgotten flaw or feature in some early implementations of one or the other technology and has, over the years, become repeated so often that it has taken on an authority it no longer deserves.

      But even assuming by some baroque twist of fate that you are correct in your surprising assertion, it has little to no bearing on the subject at hand: to wit, the poor quality of the monitor in the eMac. Supposing such a thing as a shadow mask monitor with such fine resolution as to provide superior text to an aperture grille were to exist, I believe I can say with no fear of honest contradiction that Apple has not included any such technology in the eMac.

  54. The new iMac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new form factor for the iMac had better be right. In fact, it better be really special.

    If it is dull or in any way like any other computer on the market, people will ignore it.

    Apple has to have a really awesome new iMac this time.

    It has to have the wow factor at least as good as the first one or the second version, of it will die at the gate.

    So do not expect a routine iMac next week. If that happens, Apple will lose a lot more than market share.

  55. Should be able to tell when somebody's FAKING it by Provocateur · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...oh wait, this is /.

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  56. (Official) English Version by Lars+T. · · Score: 2, Informative
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  57. iCube by oudzeeman · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I want an all aluminum single processor headless mac, to give an entry level machine without a monitor. I think a lot more people would go Mac if they weren't forced to either get an expensive LCD display or a top-of-the-line dual processor system.

    1. Re:iCube by argent · · Score: 1

      I don't care what they look like... cube, slab, or mini-tower... so long as I get to put my own monitor on it.

    2. Re:iCube by Capt_Troy · · Score: 1

      I believe that the new Macs use standard DVI connectors now, so you should be able to plug in any modern monitor, or an older one with a converter.

      -troy

    3. Re:iCube by oudzeeman · · Score: 1

      That is true, but all *entry level* macs come WITH a monitor. I already have an 18 inch LCD display, but if I just want a basic single processor Mac, I'm forced to buy a display as well. My next home computer will be either a 2Ghz or 2.5Ghz powermac, so I can use my existing monitor, but this computer would be overkill for a lot of people.

    4. Re:iCube by Capt_Troy · · Score: 1

      oh right.... can't very well hook up a monitor to an iMac can you? That would look silly if you did!

  58. A legal-size tablet? by tepples · · Score: 1

    Isn't "17 Inch Widescreen" just a fancy name for "U.S. Legal size"?

  59. Monorail Computer by lezerno · · Score: 1

    Does anyone remember these. Monorail http://www.monorailcomputer.org/index.html My dad has one with P133 and 640 x 480 monitor.

  60. flamebait ... or truth ??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple fan boy moderators can't handle the truth.

  61. Forget the iMac and eMac... give me a bMac by EvanKai · · Score: 1

    The "b" is for business and blade.

    While Apple needs to refresh their consumer model, what would really be "insanely great" would be a system of rack mount Mac blades with Apple branded/quality DVI/USB/FireWire repeaters. They've already added firewire and USB to their cinema displays. Why not give me a system that lets me run an office from a rack of easily replacable/upgradable cpus with a utility to make it apple-easy to use networked home directories. Seems like this would be an easy sell to education as well as business customers.

    Start with a G4 model with a lower price point since a G4 will do everything an office user needs. The cinema displays are expensive, but they look nice and the cost savings in centralizing network, power, and maintenance in addition to greatly reducing virus downtime would make these a solution small offices may actually consider.

    1. Re:Forget the iMac and eMac... give me a bMac by goMac2500 · · Score: 1

      Uhhhh... This sounds just like the XServe... http://apple.com/xserve Get a nice KVM switch and use them with one display to your hearts content. Thats what we do at work.

    2. Re:Forget the iMac and eMac... give me a bMac by argent · · Score: 2

      I have a great deal of difficulty seeing much point to blades unless you're running Windows on them and need to have a separate copy of Windows for each application due to its desktop-oriented design that discourages the development of applications that work well in a multi-instance environment.

  62. Spartacus! by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If The Steve really objects to having a new iMac integrated into the monitor panel, it's not for technical reasons. The Twentieth Anniversary Mac was a computer integrated into a flat-panel monitor, complete with a vertical CD drive, and they made that way back in 1997! (that large box next to the TAM in that picture is just a subwoofer, the CD-ROM is right below the screen)

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    1. Re:Spartacus! by Etcetera · · Score: 2, Interesting


      However, the TAM was limited to a 4x CD-ROM drive for precisely that reason. As the parent says, though, I have no idea how much technology has improved for vertically-mounted drives since then.

    2. Re:Spartacus! by Cid+Highwind · · Score: 1

      Interesting, I didn't know that. Still, a Playstation 2 works sitting on it's side, so I think a modern DVD-rom will work sideways.

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  63. Cease and desist by pajamacore · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A cease and desist from Apple Legal won't necessarily mean this is the new iMac. Claiming something is an Apple product when it's not is pretty worthy of legal action.

  64. Haven't seen anyone else take the plunge by inkswamp · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I'll finally put my guess into the public forum.

    First, I think these iMac pics are probably fakes. Just a gut instinct as a long-time Mac user. It doesn't really look much like an Apple design. I could be wrong, but only if they're striking out in some tangential direction.

    Second, look at another Mac-related tidbit that made the rounds of the rumor sites just recently. It hints of a tablet Mac which is strange because the market is weak and Jobs has already gone on record saying that PDAs are not a market Apple is interested in (and possibly by extension, tablets as well?)

    So what does that leave us with?

    Well, Apple has recently made a relatively quiet product announcement with Airport Extreme so if I were to put 2 and 2 together, the result would be a dockable iMac, a machine where some of the components are in a base station (optical drive for one, some ports, etc.) and the screen actually rests in the base where is recharges when it's in desktop mode and can be picked up and walked around with and used like a tablet using the technology they've begun to explore with Airport Extreme.

    Sounds far-fetched, but take a second look at the sketches for the "tablet" which appears to have an dock-connector similar to the iPod's on one edge. Maybe this isn't a tablet per se but the screen for the iMac G5.

    My theory may be completely off-the-mark, but just following the threads of Apple's recent products, I'm lead to consider this sort of possibility.

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    1. Re:Haven't seen anyone else take the plunge by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My theory may be completely off-the-mark, but just following the threads of Apple's recent products, I'm lead to consider this sort of possibility.

      One of Apple's strongest selling lines has been their notebooks. Considering that some people actually buy notebooks as desktop replacements, you may not be completely off-the-mark. A desktop iMac with a small footprint and a dockable tablet that links wirelessly would fit this market well, working as a desktop, yet providing portability. It would fit the same niche market for people that use notebooks around the home, while alleviating the problem of dealing with plugging and unplugging cables. Steve Jobs did seem to give a clue that Apple may be working on some kind of wireless product- here's a quote from AppleInsider...

      When Jobs was demonstrating the new Airport Express, Walt Mossberg said that the biggest problem he saw was that users had to get up and walk to their computers to change play lists. Jobs joked that walking was good, but when pressed, he smiled a wry smile. AppleInsider correspondents took this to mean that Apple is developing in this area, and the Airport Express is just a step along the way.
    2. Re:Haven't seen anyone else take the plunge by Archibald+Buttle · · Score: 1

      Interesting quote...

      However Apple are advertising for WiFi and Bluetooth engineers for their iPod division. It seems fairly clear that the iPod will be gaining some wireless capabilities, and linking it in to an Airport Express music network would make a great deal of sense. That could be why Jobs smiled his wry smile in response to Airport Express speculation.

    3. Re:Haven't seen anyone else take the plunge by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An interesting concept... Base station and satellite... perhaps optical drives and power supply in the base, with LCD and batteries in the "screen unit".

      Further, with some creative engineering they could put a G5 processor in the base, and a G4 processor in the Screen. This would allow it to run off the G4 when separated (and at lower power consumption), and off the G5 (or both) when plugged in.

      Of course, if the wireless bandwidth was good enough, the base could do ALL the processing, and simply send the video to the remote screen.

      Either solution would allow controlling the main functions of the computer from the remote panel, which would make devices like Airport Express (audio out) more useful.

      Either way, it would require some serious engineering hurdles to be jumped, but it would be Apple's style to attempt something like this that is truly innovative. Doing it RIGHT might be what is taking so long.

  65. New iPod Mini Color Black! by 64Bit · · Score: 1

    I took this picture in the bathroom at this same event http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/64Bit/np_bl ack.jpg

    And if you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell to you. ;-)

  66. Ducky? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I opened both images in a hex editor. Obviously the guy had the same idea and had replaced the information with lots of "@@@@@" characters, except "Ducky". Does anyone know what Ducky means?

  67. 20th anniversary mac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It came out in 1997 I believe. AFAIK this was the first computer to have that formfactor. More info and pictures are here:
    http://tam.axon.net/

  68. Not with my photoshop by appleLaserWriter · · Score: 1

    I've tried only R, only G, and only B channels with both images and don't see any text.

    1. Re:Not with my photoshop by rocketjesus · · Score: 1

      I don't see anything like that in my photoshop either.

      The jpeg artifiacts are really obvious looking at the individual channels, but I don't see any text.

      A hoax inside of a hoax. What's next, someone saying that the "fake" text is actually esperanto for "real", and the pics are actually legit?

    2. Re:Not with my photoshop by ndogg · · Score: 1

      It's a very dark blue on the right side of the picture. In the normal picture, it looks like a slightly yellowish stain.

      Also, it's most noticeable in this picture.

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    3. Re:Not with my photoshop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, you are right. Be sure to adjust the gamma after dropping the R and G channels. It's in a dark spot, and says fake 3 times.

    4. Re:Not with my photoshop by bigwang · · Score: 1

      I selected just the blue color.
      Then I upped the brightnes.
      Dropped the contrast a bit.

      Here's the result:
      http://www.ductape.net/~bigwang/fake_fake _fake.jpg

    5. Re:Not with my photoshop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... or if you're broke like me and don't have photoshop, you can open it with GraphicConverter (came with my OS X 10.3), press Option-Cmd-B, drag brightness red and brightness green all the way down and drag brightness blue and saturation all the way up. Now click ok and look at the molding where the elevator wall meets the floor.

  69. Re:The article itself admits the photos are false. by lfourrier · · Score: 1

    let progress...

    We are now certain they are fake.

    Nous avons acquis la certitude: We acquired certainty (word to word, not very elegant, I agree)-> The speaker is now convinced. This is the opinion of the speaker, not some scientific discovery. It has some weight, but it is still an opinion.

    We have discovered with certainty : for me, your formulation is ambigous. I feel some research, but the "with certainty" breaks the effect. We have discovered, or we have not. But "discovering with certainty" make suspicion arise about the certainty of the discovery.

    Now... my english/american is not perfect, so I can imagine subtelties that are not present.

  70. hip-e anyone? by hitmark · · Score: 1

    do a search for it. its basicly a wintel stuffed on the backside of a lcd screen with wireless keyboard and mouse. you cen put it on top of you desk by using the stand (that can allso hold a set of speakers that can integrate with a mp3 memory unit to become a portable stereo) or hang it on your wall. for some reason i hope its the future of computers (even more so if said computer is a tablet/laptop hybrid and the stand is a docking station, kinda like the toshiba m200 + docking station)...

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  71. Re:I can't read their crazy moon-language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone care to tell me what those rifle-droppers are talking about?

    Napoleon

  72. XServe?!? by EvanKai · · Score: 1

    Uhhhh.... what are you talking about? You want me to run a lab or a small office with a KVM switch? Do the users take turns using the computer?

    Is there some multi-user GUI with seperate keyboards and video connections for the XServe that I'm not aware of? I know you can have multiple users connected using SSH or X11, but that doesn't address the need to have dumb terminals with networking on every desk.

    What I'm talking about is moving the CPU from the desk next to the display to a rack at running DVI/USB/FireWire instead of networking to the desk. When I want to swap out "computers" I can do it very easily. Power, cooling, networking, disk space are centralized as well.

    1. Re:XServe?!? by goMac2500 · · Score: 1

      So you're talking about something like Citrix?

  73. What am I missing? by EvanKai · · Score: 1

    Again, why is it only Windows that would need multiple instances? I currently have a computer on every desk for every user because they need their own computer. I've never seen a "server" with 18 video cards and keyboard/mouse connections that will allow everyone to connect to their own instance of the OS.

    What I'm saying is don't put the CPU in the same enclosure as the display. With processor speeds increasing and prices dropping, I am going to want to upgrade the CPU before the display or drive. If I could swap my G4 rackmounted bMacs for G5 bMacs for $500 a pop, I'd do it. Tied to the displays... this will cost me $1500-$2000 a station.

    1. Re:What am I missing? by argent · · Score: 1

      I entirely agree with you about the desirability of a "business eMac". It would be a slab or other low-profile box that you plug a monitor and keyboard/mouse into.

      Putting it in a rack only makes sense if you're using a network window system, like X11 or NeWS. What on earth are you going to use to run from your racked bMac to the display, running Quartz Extreme? Unless you've got a dedicated video-bandwidth link from the box to the desk you're going to be giving away so much you might as well just have them make do with G3s.

      Racks are for servers. With a networked window system like X, then those servers can run X11 client apps and use display servers on the desk, but there's no reason to give each desktop its own operating system. We did it for years, and we'd still be doing it if our corporate parent hadn't forced an increasingly windows-centric set of apps down our throat.

      But Quartz isn't a network-oriented window system any more, so you can't do that on OS X. You *can* do it on Linux or BSD, or with a Mac if you treat it like a UNIX box running X. No, if you want a bMac from Apple that actually does something useful for you, pray for a slab or a cube-ii.

  74. These Pictures Stink! by rogerborn · · Score: 1


    The new iMac had BETTER BE AWESOME!

    Go to the current iMac site. http://www.apple.com/imac/

    Take another look at that great, world-class design.

    That sucker's just about perfect!

    Now, picture those STUPID new iMac "photos" talked about here, next to these (old, awesomely designed) iMacs.

    Tell me these two things are even relevant
    !? -Or related!?

    If the next generation G5 iMac is not at least as uber-cool and as well designed as the former generation iMac, Apple is in BIG trouble!

    Regards,
    Roger Born
    writing.borngraphics.com
    "Sorry. No Refunds."

  75. It's a fake by tsch · · Score: 1

    I know that it being a fake is old news, but open the image in Photoshop and turn on only the blue channel like they did here. In conclusion: fake fake fake

  76. I want a new winMac. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want to win a new winMac!

  77. Fiddle with the contrast or use CMYK by starsong · · Score: 3, Informative

    I opened it with the GIMP and poked around a bit. Go to the Color Balance and turn Cyan all the way down, Magenta and Yellow all the way up. The word "fake" appears three times on the right side, on the metal molding just above the floor.

  78. possible new imac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well if any /.ers read french you may have noted that macbidouille at the end of the post noted that they had determined the pics were fakes...

    1. Re:possible new imac by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bien Sur. Merci :-/ quelle q'un a deja dire 50 fois... encore.. merci.

  79. Grammar from Apple? by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    Good grammar from the company who trademarked "Think Different" would seem even more fake.

  80. Re:Guts of the computer behind the monitor? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Cupertino, start your photocopiers!

    I don't seem to recall Sony, Dell or IBM making "guts of the computer behind the LCD"-style computers prior to May 1997, when Apple first did it.

  81. Re:Is creating a buzz among current apple users by steeviant · · Score: 1

    Damnit, I'm a Mac user and I just can't seem to find any skunky buds anywhere.

    Maybe I need to get myself to one of those 'user group' meetings.

    I think I understand the double entendre now.