You know... I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Windows machine for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my POS Pentium 133 running Gentoo, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In all seriousness, though, I've installed and used Linux on nearly a dozen boxes now. Lots of them weren't even x86. I have NEVER had anything short of hardware failure or my stupidity cause crashes. (Anyone else ever delete libc.so?)
I also note that the parent post is being modded down for not preaching the joys of Linux...I would gladly have spent a mod point on "underrated" it if I hadn't spent all mine in the "Google + iTunes" story.
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> If the population of the earth keeps growing we won't
> have enough resources to maintain our current level of
> living conditions.
I told that to my family. They basically said "God will take care of everything for us." *sigh*
Even if I were religious, I would be of the attitude that God helps those who help themselves. Blindly trusting God to solve all of our problems isn't a good idea.
"Troll" and "flamebait" do not equal "fundamentally wrong." This is the sort of thing moderators should respond with rather than simply modding down in this sort of case.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, but everyone else has the right to tell them they're wrong.
This post is going to be modded down as "troll" or "flamebait." It doesn't deserve it.
I'm going to try to intercede by saying once again: Those of you with mod points, if you disagree with a post, that doesn't make it a troll! Don't mod it down, RESPOND!
Moderators! If you disagree with a post, don't moderate it down, respond to it! Idiots.
The problem with all these "hidden deliberate conspiracy by a small number of people" theories is that in order for them to work they have to be actively pushed by these people for the time period involved without one person outside the conspiracy getting wind of it. That doesn't mean that I don't think that the American system of government is flawed in a lot of fundamental ways, but that does mean that I disagree as to how it came to be that way.
Eliminate closed-source modules in the Linux kernel (etc.) and you eliminate ATI's and nVidia's official drivers, rather than forcing them to be Open Sourced.
As far as I can tell, big companies have NO incentive whatsoever to Open Source their software. It makes licensing more of a hassle, it reduces potential revenue, and it exposes every aspect of it for everyone and their mother to see and potentially use in their own software.
Binary compatibility does not discourage anyone from Open Sourcing their software. It allows people to support Linux without Open Sourcing. If supporting Linux requires Open Sourcing, most companies will "just say no."
As an indie game developer, for example, I cannot make money off an Open Source game. So I release it closed source. If supporting Linux is as simple as distributing a binary, then great! Linux support is in. If I need to expose my source to the public, though, my bacon generator collapses. Much as it would pain me to do so (as I love Linux) I'd probably make only Mac OS and Windows versions in that case, as neither operating system requires me to Open Source, and both guarantee binary compatibility to boot.
My point sounded better before it came out of my head. A lot wasn't said that I meant that I meant to say. Never post tired.
http://forums.tejat.net/ms.html This page replaced the index page for my forums. (Alright, I admit it, I modified it slightly to look better in Mozilla... but it otherwise matches layout-wise the 404 error page on microsoft.com.)
-:sigma.SB
I first formatted my father's hard drive at age 3, and have almost exclusively used CRTs since then; yet my vision is far better than normal (20/13). Since about the age of 9, though, I've been very careful about staring at a computer screen for too long... when I start to think I almost instinctively look at something else in the room, or out the window. That may have something to do with it.
-:sigma.SB
Even though I enjoy working on Linux (CLI) more, I find I'm more productive on Mac OS X since I spend less of my time coding 5 minute useless programs (more effort to create XCode projects than makefiles) or playing Nethack...
-:sigma.SB
Speaking as an almost exclusive PowerPC user, I can wholeheartedly say that I would never allow a Windows machine inside my network, whether on PowerPC or an Intel compatible machine.
Although, it probably would not hurt Apple's hardware sales...;)
-:sigma.SB
> ...KDE and Gnome go down all the time.
You know... I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Windows machine for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my POS Pentium 133 running Gentoo, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.
In all seriousness, though, I've installed and used Linux on nearly a dozen boxes now. Lots of them weren't even x86. I have NEVER had anything short of hardware failure or my stupidity cause crashes. (Anyone else ever delete libc.so?)
I also note that the parent post is being modded down for not preaching the joys of Linux...I would gladly have spent a mod point on "underrated" it if I hadn't spent all mine in the "Google + iTunes" story.
-:sigma.SB
> If the population of the earth keeps growing we won't
> have enough resources to maintain our current level of
> living conditions.
I told that to my family. They basically said "God will take care of everything for us." *sigh*
Even if I were religious, I would be of the attitude that God helps those who help themselves. Blindly trusting God to solve all of our problems isn't a good idea.
Commence flamewar.
-:sigma.SB
> and those 10 who use every trick in the book to avoid getting
> out of doing assignments
School addicts? O.O
-:sigma.SB
Er... font server != web server. The font server is part of the windowsystem (more or less).
-:sigma.SB
In light of some *real* information and facts, I contend that Linux has the best TCP/IP stack.
Everyone else's information is fake.
-:sigma.SB
Memo: mrt68 knows too much and must now be disposed of.
-:sigma.SB
> Name a product that MS didn't borrow from another company and pigs will fly out my ass.
Outlook? No... Word? No... DOS? No... Windows Update? No... SkiFree? No... shiny things? No... meta search? No... GUI? No... virtual memory? No... Solitaire? No... Notepad?! No!
Blast! I really wanted to see those pigs fly...
-:sigma.SB
I must watch that film again...
-:sigma.SB
Saying "Why support Flash, when SVG is better?" is like saying "Why support JPEG/GIF/BMP when PNG is better?"
-:sigma.SB
Oh, and by "this" I meant "parent post." I do this a lot, apparently. >_<
-:sigma.SB
"Troll" and "flamebait" do not equal "fundamentally wrong." This is the sort of thing moderators should respond with rather than simply modding down in this sort of case.
Everyone has the right to their opinion, but everyone else has the right to tell them they're wrong.
-:sigma.SB
By "this post" I meant "the parent post" of course. >_<
-:sigma.SB
P.S. I mean in the parent post, of course.
This post is going to be modded down as "troll" or "flamebait." It doesn't deserve it.
I'm going to try to intercede by saying once again: Those of you with mod points, if you disagree with a post, that doesn't make it a troll! Don't mod it down, RESPOND!
-:sigma.SB
That's because Microsoft made first contact years beforehand and sold them Windows, of course.
-:sigma.SB
-:sigma.SB
Saves you the trouble of buying a kevlar vest, too...
-:sigma.SB
Moderators, if you disagree with a post, don't mod it down, answer it!
-:sigma.SB
/me sheepishly raises his hand I haven't done that with any Apple software recently, though... -:sigma.SB
Eliminate closed-source modules in the Linux kernel (etc.) and you eliminate ATI's and nVidia's official drivers, rather than forcing them to be Open Sourced.
As far as I can tell, big companies have NO incentive whatsoever to Open Source their software. It makes licensing more of a hassle, it reduces potential revenue, and it exposes every aspect of it for everyone and their mother to see and potentially use in their own software.
Binary compatibility does not discourage anyone from Open Sourcing their software. It allows people to support Linux without Open Sourcing. If supporting Linux requires Open Sourcing, most companies will "just say no."
As an indie game developer, for example, I cannot make money off an Open Source game. So I release it closed source. If supporting Linux is as simple as distributing a binary, then great! Linux support is in. If I need to expose my source to the public, though, my bacon generator collapses. Much as it would pain me to do so (as I love Linux) I'd probably make only Mac OS and Windows versions in that case, as neither operating system requires me to Open Source, and both guarantee binary compatibility to boot.
My point sounded better before it came out of my head. A lot wasn't said that I meant that I meant to say. Never post tired.
-:sigma.SB
http://forums.tejat.net/ms.html This page replaced the index page for my forums. (Alright, I admit it, I modified it slightly to look better in Mozilla... but it otherwise matches layout-wise the 404 error page on microsoft.com.)
-:sigma.SB
This sounds a lot like a book I read once by Robert Heinlein... I think it was called "The Alliance." -:sigma.SB
I first formatted my father's hard drive at age 3, and have almost exclusively used CRTs since then; yet my vision is far better than normal (20/13). Since about the age of 9, though, I've been very careful about staring at a computer screen for too long... when I start to think I almost instinctively look at something else in the room, or out the window. That may have something to do with it. -:sigma.SB
Even though I enjoy working on Linux (CLI) more, I find I'm more productive on Mac OS X since I spend less of my time coding 5 minute useless programs (more effort to create XCode projects than makefiles) or playing Nethack...
-:sigma.SB
Speaking as an almost exclusive PowerPC user, I can wholeheartedly say that I would never allow a Windows machine inside my network, whether on PowerPC or an Intel compatible machine. ;)
Although, it probably would not hurt Apple's hardware sales...
-:sigma.SB
no Pippin,
That means no Super Marathon, either. Yeesh.
-:sigma.SB