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Linux For Supervillains

computernut writes "Supervillains seem to like Linux. Take a peek at a cool Shockwave Animation on why they use it." Cute little animation. I think we might have shown it here before, but hey it's Sunday, and August which means this is the closest thing to news we might have all day.

256 comments

  1. Are you kidding me? by falloutboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    This story is a great reason not to get a subscription to slashdot.

    Anyway, the video -- which is funny -- is several years old and comes from http://www.ubergeek.tv/

    1. Re:Are you kidding me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I had mod points I'd give them to you.

    2. Re:Are you kidding me? by diegocgteleline.es · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not even for non-suscribers. It has been more than a year since I saw this - how can people think this is "new(s)"?

    3. Re:Are you kidding me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Are you kidding me? by JPriest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is for the people who couldn't figure out how to link flash from mozilla back then.

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    5. Re:Are you kidding me? by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      It's a Sunday, it's August. So if we're browsing comments on a non-story I guess we're bored. There is a load of more cool Shockwave animation here.

    6. Re:Are you kidding me? by slavemowgli · · Score: 1

      Not to mention here.

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    7. Re:Are you kidding me? by minus_273 · · Score: 1

      are you kidding me, this is 2-3 years old. Its back in the day of the funny apple switch ads..

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    8. Re:Are you kidding me? by scovetta · · Score: 1

      It's Slashdot News (or "snews" (pronouced "snooze")).

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    9. Re:Are you kidding me? by El+Gordo+GJM · · Score: 0

      it's new if you haven't seen it before...

    10. Re:Are you kidding me? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only seven comments and already posting at 0. Bummer.

    11. Re:Are you kidding me? by bnitsua · · Score: 1

      more importantly, why would you SUBMIT something that old?

    12. Re:Are you kidding me? by jc42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heh. Nowadays, the problem is figuring out how to block flash.

      For instance, I've installed FlashBlock and PrefBar several times in mozilla and/or firefox. They both test out ok, and work for a week or two. Then one day I find a movin' pitcher running in a moz or FF window, check, and sure enough; it's flash. F'r instance, flash was blocked a few days ago in FF, but when I pasted this comic's URL into a FF window, it came up and ran instantly.

      Anyone got any other good clues about killing this cpu sinkhole? This comic was one of the rare cases where I'd actually want to watch a flash movie. 99% of the time, flash is only used for obnoxious, intrusive ads that take over the cpu.

      Is there a browser where you can actually block flash, and keep it blocked, while still being able to play an occasional flash movie or game?

      (I tend to collect browsers; I have 7 or 8 on both my linux box and my Powerbook. It's interesting to see how effective the advertisers are at bringing your cpu to its knees from any of them. Of course, when an ad does this, I add the company to my list of companies to never buy from if I can at all avoid it. ;-)

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    13. Re:Are you kidding me? by sillybilly · · Score: 1

      The issue here is that a lot of slashdot linxors don't use the shockwave plugin, which is a very a very nonopen, nonnonproprietary "internet standard." How else are you gonna incite them to "take a peek" and install the dam thing? Aren't ya'll curious? Curiosity killed the kitten.

    14. Re:Are you kidding me? by empvirus · · Score: 1

      Um. there was a script that my friend used. I can't remember how it went, but flash would activate only when he clicked on the flash thingy.

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    15. Re:Are you kidding me? by JPriest · · Score: 3, Funny

      You could just remove flash player...

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  2. Of course by PakProtector · · Score: 5, Funny

    Linux is for Supervillians. The Good Guys use NetBSD.

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    1. Re:Of course by aurb · · Score: 1

      Netcraft confirms you know what.

    2. Re:Of course by eneville · · Score: 0

      No way! OpenBSD is the tool of the good guys, no remote exploits for how many years?

      OpenBSD is the force behind pf(sync)/carp. NetBSD hasn't really brought a whole lot to the community, and doesnt to the best of my knowledge have any hackathons, also, openbsd has some of the best cds/t-shirts.

      Nice comment though, but openbsd is the way forward, although slowly.

    3. Re:Of course by PakProtector · · Score: 1

      I believe you meant no remove root exploits in the default installation in the past N years. OpenBSD is by far the most secure operating system there is.

      As for NetBSD not bringing alot to the community, my roommate and uncle just came back from Linuxworld as part of the NetBSD team (you may have seen pictures of their toaster.) NetBSD is designed for ease of portability. People often bicker and argue about which runs on more platforms: NetBSD or Linux. While it's a toss-up between NetBSD and the Linux Kernal for that point, the fact is that the NetBSD Operating System as a Whole Runs on far more architectures than Linux. It's used for imbedded applications in lots of places. And since you're using the Regents' License instead of the Evil GPL (Which, for something supposed to support freedom, denies me freedoms -- but that's neither here nor there), while there must be the standard 'The Regents take no responsibility yada yada yada,' disclaimer somewhere in documentation, you may never know that the device you're using uses NetBSD. For example, the PSP uses code from NetBSD. Look in the back of the Manual if you can get your hands on the Manual to one.

      NetBSD is at the very least under-reported in its usage, and more likely very, very under-reported.

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    4. Re:Of course by The+Bubble · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      In response to this breaking Slashdot news, the Bush Administration has instigated a trade embargo against all open source projects. "Open source fuels terrorism," said the chairman of the administration's software committie.

    5. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Evil will always triumph because good is dumb."

    6. Re:Of course by Jonner · · Score: 1

      As well your ignorance of English spelling, you seem to be ignorant (or willfully misrepresentative) of the nature of Linux and Linux-based operating systems. As you mention in passing, Linux is a kernel. It is not an operating system, so it doesn't make sense to compare it directly to NetBSD, which is.

      You seem to be trying to say that NetBSD's kernel and Linux each run on a similar number of architectures, but that NetBSD runs on many more architectures than Linux-based operating systems do. What use would Linux be without an entire operating system? Which architectures have a Linux port, but no Linux-based OS?

      Perhaps you meant to say that NetBSD runs on many more architectures than any particular Linux-based OS, which is most likely true.

      As for freedom, I ask whether you, as the owner of a PSP, have the right to see the NetBSD code that you use? As you point out, you wouldn't even know that Sony had used NetBSD code unless you read the manual.

      I, on the other hand, specifically chose to buy a Linksys WRT54G wireless router because I knew that owning one gave me the right to see and modify the code that runs it because it was released under the GPL. This gave me freedom as an end user because I can choose several different software distributions that add functionality to my embedded system. I don't even need to look at the source myself to gain freedom from the GPL, but the source is always there if I want it.

      I suggest that one possible reason that you don't hear that much about NetBSD bringing a lot to the community is because many are taking it and not making their modifications and enhancements public.

      Copyleft licenses (such as the GPL) and non-copyleft licenses (such as the BSD license) each have their uses. The BSD license puts fewer restrictions on the original author, while the GPL guarantees greater freedom for users and other developers, thereby benefiting the community at large. The question of which is more free depends on the context. If you only consider the original author, the BSD license is more free, but if you consider every potential user and developer, the GPL is more free.

    7. Re:Of course by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People often bicker and argue about which runs on more platforms: NetBSD or Linux. While it's a toss-up between NetBSD and the Linux Kernal for that point, the fact is that the NetBSD Operating System as a Whole Runs on far more architectures than Linux.

      Huh? The Linux kernel runs on 23 CPU architectures versus 17 for NetBSD (might vary slightly depending on how you count).

      How can you call that a "toss-up" while also saying NetBSD runs on "far more architectures than Linux" when Debian for example runs on 11?

      It doesn't really sound like you know what you're talking about so why should anybody listen to you?

  3. News for Nerds? by Ubi_NL · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My $DEITY
    This thing is nearly 3 years old
    It's mentioned on other websites with a date of january 2003!

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    1. Re:News for Nerds? by Ubi_NL · · Score: 1

      The original version seems to come from here with a date of january 16 2003

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  4. everyone hates on Taco.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ..but at least he's honest about it. Doesn't fucking bother capitalizing August or Sunday, doesn't care to look up if it's a dupe.

    *gasp* He's just another lazy computer geek! Everyone, get the pitchforks and torches! We're supposed to all be pissed off cuz he's getting paid to be a lazy geek! We're supposed to gripe about having subscriptions and.. o, wait, I'm an AC.

    Yes, anyway, Taco is still my man.

    1. Re:everyone hates on Taco.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We're supposed to all be pissed off cuz he's getting paid to be a lazy geek!

      Yeah, in the same way people bitch and moan about other people being too lazy to do their jobs. Syadmins that don't patch? Bitch and moan. Programmers that don't bother writing secure code? Bitch and moan. Web developers that only write code that's compatible with Internet Explorer? Bitch and moan. Co-workers coming into work drunk? Bitch and moan. US Patent Office approving everything that comes their way? Bitch and moan.

      Amazingly enough, people don't like to have incompetence flaunted in their face. What a shock! How unreasonable it is to expect people to do their jobs!

    2. Re:everyone hates on Taco.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just as offtopic as the posts that rip on Taco. Seriously mods, stop playing favorites to the arse kisser.

    3. Re:everyone hates on Taco.. by swv3752 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Kathleen? Is that you?

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  5. More Microsoft FUD by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 5, Funny
    Great... More fodder for the Microsoft FUD machine..

    First, "they hate copyright", now "they want to destroy the world". What next? "They're trying to put an entire industry (anti-virus) out of business!"?

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    1. Re:More Microsoft FUD by rgmoore · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't laugh. Darl McBride actually mentioned this animation in his Long Live Unix letter. He was making fun of the "First you have to config it, then write some shell scripts, update your RPMs, partition your drives, patch your kernel, compile your binaries and check your version dependencies..." part, but he raised this obviously humorous animation as a serious criticism of Linux.

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  6. Well... by MustardMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since we're duping movies we've seen before, I might as well point out the funniest Switch parody I've ever seen... http://www.roosterteeth.com/archive/download.php?i d=499

    1. Re:Well... by pwnage · · Score: 1

      Which world is this funny on?

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    2. Re:Well... by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

      That was great!

      Breakout... Super Breakout... Photoshop.

    3. Re:Well... by MutantHamster · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's nothing! Have you seen this yet?

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    4. Re:Well... by MustardMan · · Score: 1

      My favorite line was always the one where he said "you already know which games are good on the mac because you played them on the pc five or six years ago"

      As a mac user, I'm glad I like my games on a TV and without a keyboard!

    5. Re:Well... by orkysoft · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, there's this Flash movie of an old video game animation, which is really badly translated from Japanese, and the evil guy says "All your base are belong to us", and then there are lots of photoshopped photos with that text photoshopped into them photographically, and it's all like OMFGPWNZOR ALL YOUR BASE IRLBBQ!!!11one

      It probably appeared on Slashdot before, I'd guess...

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    6. Re:Well... by generic-man · · Score: 1

      Oh, come on. That video is old. Now there are lots of high-quality games for the Mac. There's World of Warcraft! (uncomfortable pause) And Myst... the Sims 2... ooh, Starcraft! And Diablo II! And the Oregon Trail. I used to love that game.

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    7. Re:Well... by Cinder6 · · Score: 1

      I feel dumber having watched it :(

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    8. Re:Well... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      That's a good one, but I seem to remember an even funnier one with a guy that starts yelling in his ranting about Windows/PCs... I think it also featured the 'switch ads' background music. But I've forgotton where I downloaded it. Damn... I was talking about this the other day as well, co-incidentally.

      If anyone remembers this ad please reply to this post! I'd dearly love to see it again.

    9. Re:Well... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Now that I think about it, it might even have been a reverse-switch ad, farcically advocating a switch to the PC. Just in case anyone remembers...

    10. Re:Well... by JPriest · · Score: 1

      I might as well link the Apple sponsored Ellen Feiss switch add while we are at it.

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    11. Re:Well... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Aha! That is indeed the one I meant, thank you. Shame about the video quality though... didn't I see a much better quality version first time around?

    12. Re:Well... by jez9999 · · Score: 1

      Just in case anyone was wondering (haha), I did manage to track down a mirror of the original, higher quality version of the parody, here.

    13. Re:Well... by LadyPixel · · Score: 1

      Dude... that switch parody... can I have Gus' number? Dude is hot! I'd buy a Mac for him anytime...

  7. slashdot by brokencomputer · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow, this animation is soooooooooooo old. here is the actual site this came from.

  8. Finally Linux will own the desktop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At least all EVIL desktops when the east coast is seized.

  9. It may be old.... by davecrusoe · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... but it's still funny! And besides, some of us don't remember /. stories three years old => So, I for one welcome our three-year-old Linux supervillian overlords. But only when used appropriately.

    1. Re:It may be old.... by Bogtha · · Score: 0, Redundant

      If the Slashdot editors are going to dupe stories on purpose, then can we at least get a 'Dupe' category so people who want to can filter them out?

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  10. Um, how come by TheEvilOverlord · · Score: 5, Interesting

    When I post something relevant it gets rejected, but when someone posts an admittedly funny, but million year old flash animation, it gets front paged?

    1. Re:Um, how come by TheLetterPsy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This is /. and the guy said Linux, ergo . . . relevant.

    2. Re:Um, how come by MrShaggy · · Score: 1

      Yes I posted a story when Peter Jennings died. Nothing. Couldnt figgure it out, here was a guy that everyone knew. A quiet influence for news people. Maybe cause he was a Canadian?

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    3. Re:Um, how come by belg4mit · · Score: 0, Troll

      How is the death of a newsman relevant? Unless of
      course it's Ruper Murdoch. It's not. Heck, I was
      watching TV when it was announced and was rather put-off by the damn documentary they launch into. It seemed rather self-serving and disingenious to have something "already ready already".

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    4. Re:Um, how come by Albino+Wolfman · · Score: 1

      OK, but why come to /. to get articles that you can easily get from CNN or MSNBC? Peter Jennings was a very talented and reputable journalist. His death is quite unfortunate, but I wouldn't consider it to be "news for nerds".

    5. Re:Um, how come by killercoder · · Score: 1

      It would be news for nerds if he'd died in the sack with a spokes model for RedHat.........or been assassinated by Bill Gates for software Piracy...........or if he'd managed to Run OSX on his PSP. He didn't - so it didn't get posted.

    6. Re:Um, how come by MrShaggy · · Score: 2, Insightful

      However I would think that a 'news' site like this would at least give it up for one of their own.

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    7. Re:Um, how come by computernut · · Score: 1

      er...mr overlord...
      i too have attempted to post several times, but to no avail, all rejects. this is my first approved post in a loooong time...

    8. Re:Um, how come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or John Dvorak.
      Now that would make a day for many of us!

  11. Re:OLD! by lightyear4 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    who cares?? it entertained me - thats more than you can say for most /. posts

  12. Re:AKA "Slashdot for Suckers" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How could they get fired? They own the shop.

  13. Re:AKA "Slashdot for Suckers" by daviddennis · · Score: 1

    Naw.

    Next time I submit a story, I'll just make sure it's Sunday in August.

    Besides, the video did make me laugh, and on a day I could use it, so I'm happy.

    D

  14. Confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Take a peek at a cool Shockwave Animation on why they use it.

    That is a Flash animation, not Shockwave.

    1. Re:Confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The name you're looking for is Shockwave Flash.

    2. Re:Confused? by jnelson4765 · · Score: 0, Troll

      Uh, what cave have you been living in? Or are you using three-year-old linux to view it?

      I watched it in FC4 with no problems...

      Farking troll...

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    3. Re:Confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's running it on 64-bit Linux (x86_64 FC4, for instance).

    4. Re:Confused? by Orgazmus · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because flash runs ine on linux, but he is talking about shockwave.
      Get a clue, then open mouth

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    5. Re:Confused? by Novus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Huh? Works fine in Mozilla for me. RPM version data follows:

      > rpm --qf "%{NAME} - %{SUMMARY}: %{VERSION}\n%{VENDOR}\n" -q flash-player mozilla
      flash-player - Macromedia Flash plugin: 7.0.25.0
      SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany
      mozilla - The Open Source successor of the Netscape browser: 1.7.5
      SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Nuernberg, Germany


      Hope this helps.

    6. Re:Confused? by Novus · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I thought dolphinling was confused about Shockwave and Flash, but it turns out I was. Anyway, whether Shockwave works or not on Linux is mostly irrelevant; I can't say I've ever needed it. Flash is annoying enough, thank you.

    7. Re:Confused? by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      I saw that the article said "Shockwave" and thought it ironic--as everyone knows, Shockwave doesn't run on Linux (except via Wine).

    8. Re:Confused? by sn0wflake · · Score: 1

      Damn, who would have thought that installing Flash could be that easy. Just type in a 80 char command and voila you have Flash installed. I wonder why everybody hasn't switched to Linux yet :D

    9. Re:Confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, who would have thought that installing Flash could be that easy. Just type in a 80 char command and voila you have Flash installed.

      Actually the command checks the version of flash. Anyways, there's also a "point-n-click" way to do most things (including installing flash), but since the command-line way works regardless of configuration (while the click way depends on how you configured your menus, which distro you're using and such) we generally show the command-line way when helping people. The downside, as you correctly point out, is that it makes Linux look more complicated than it is.

      I mean, it's shorter to say:

      type "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree" as root

      than:

      "on the system | administration menu, select "synaptics package manager". Type in your root password. Click on the search button, type "flash". Click on the various entries and read the description until you find the flash plugin for mozilla (that's how you find it's called "flashplugin-nonfree"). Then click on the checkbox next to it, click "select for installation", and click the "apply" button. Click OK when it tells you it's done.

      And then the guy comes back because his menus are in Spanish and he can't find anything.

    10. Re:Confused? by sn0wflake · · Score: 1

      It great that it's possible to do it several ways but imagine explaining it to somebody over the telephone. Your explanation versus; dude, just say yes when it explicitly asks you if you want to install Shockwave.

    11. Re:Confused? by northcat · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Hehehehehe.

    12. Re:Confused? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U SILLY!!1!
      That's MACROMEDIA file. It runs on MAC!!

    13. Re:Confused? by Novus · · Score: 1

      Uh, the installation command is: yast2 -i mozilla flash-player, but you really don't need to do that unless you've told YaST not to install Flash; Firefox and Flash are installed by default on SuSE 9.3. Anyway, my point was that Flash is well supported and often preinstalled on Linux.

    14. Re:Confused? by statusbar · · Score: 1

      Wow! Anyone else see the irony in trying to configure linux to play the animation which makes fun of installing things on linux?

      --jeff++

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    15. Re:Confused? by Mathonwy · · Score: 5, Informative

      True, the .swf file format does stand for shockwave flash. However, this is a flash animation; a shockwave animation is something quite different. This was an animation that was produced via macromedia flash, and runs in their flash player.

      A shockwave animation is one that is produced in Macromedia Director, and requires an entirely different plugin.

      They're separate products and separate file formats. The flash format (which is far more common) is vector based, and was designed to stream interesting animations to people while using up as little bandwidth as possible. Similarly, the flash player itself is (or at least originally was) designed to be as small as possible.

      In contrast, the shockwave player was designed from the start to handle lots of stuff (bitmaps, vectors, 3d) and so was always a much heavier player.

      So anyway, the parent post is right, I think. This is a FLASH animation, not a shockwave animation. Calling this a shockwave animation in the headline is misleading.

    16. Re:Confused? by arose · · Score: 1

      I seem to remember that it downloads an installer, but it has been a while... The problem on GNU/Linux is (as always) traced back to non-free software, once (and if) there is a mature free software flash player you can be sure that you won't have to explicitly install it on any desktop distro.

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    17. Re:Confused? by dolphinling · · Score: 1

      To clarify, though it's already been done, the animation you saw is a Flash animation. Flash does and always has run fine on Linux, though the releases are somewhat behind the windows and mac releases. Shockwave is an entirely different thing (by the same company), and there is no linux player. Last I checked (which was over a year ago) it worked with CrossOver, but that put up ads in the middle of what you were doing.

      Since you asked, I use Gentoo, and it was about a day old (gotta love emerge --sync && emerge -Dtau world). Every once in a while, I report a bug to Macromedia about there not being a player. You should too.

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    18. Re:Confused? by dolphinling · · Score: 1

      Careful, they modded me "troll" for saying the exact same thing. (Even used the same word "ironic".)

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  15. i'm dumber! by illtron · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yet again, something absolutely useless on Slashdot has made me dumber. This time it was unfunny too. Thanks Slashdot! Two or three more like this and I'll be too retarded to type.

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    1. Re:i'm dumber! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In four or five, you'll be ready to serve as an editor.

    2. Re:i'm dumber! by PakProtector · · Score: 1
      Yet again, something absolutely useless on Slashdot has made me dumber. This time it was unfunny too. Thanks Slashdot! Two or three more like this and I'll be too retarded to type.

      Oi! That be dumberber.

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    3. Re:i'm dumber! by Exatron · · Score: 1

      Quick! Somebody post some more things like that!

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    4. Re:i'm dumber! by FyRE666 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Two or three more like this and I'll be too retarded to type.

      Try browsing at -1, you'll find many posters who seem to have overcome that particular disability...

    5. Re:i'm dumber! by statusbar · · Score: 1
      See, this is proof that "Slashdot Information As Well As Quantum Information Can Be Negative". When you receive the article, you end up with less knowledge.

      --jeff++

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    6. Re:i'm dumber! by Minwee · · Score: 2, Funny

      Disability? I thought it was a prerequisite.

  16. Uh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They sold out a long time ago. Who do you think OSTG is?

    michael was fired a while back... and I'm beginning to think maybe they fired Zonk. He's never got this long without a story.

  17. Hey, I happen to like this... by martinultima · · Score: 0

    Just because it's old doesn't mean it's not funny. I happen to like this thing, gives me something funny I can use to promote my favorite operating system. :-)

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    1. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by Poromenos1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't think it promotes linux... I think they're actually making fun of it where they say "you have to compile it, patch the kernel, etc". (I'm not being a troll).

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    2. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yea, ok Darl McBride.

    3. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I don't think it promotes linux... I think they're actually making fun of it where they say "you have to compile it, patch the kernel, etc". (I'm not being a troll).

      Then is it just me who don't have to do any of those stuff with my beloved Ubuntu? :)
    4. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by JoeShmoe950 · · Score: 1

      It is pretty funny. Remember, this was made 3 years ago, when a lot of that was still true. He's not making up fud. Back when he made it, lots of those problems were existant. Linux is much better off now, having improved greatly in the last three years (from last year to this year, a lot has changed even). Three years ago, lots of the things that are easy today were much harder.

    5. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by shawngarringer · · Score: 1

      Um... nothing has changed. Installing Linux is just as hard now as it was then.

    6. Re:Hey, I happen to like this... by blincoln · · Score: 1

      Remember, this was made 3 years ago, when a lot of that was still true. He's not making up fud. Back when he made it, lots of those problems were existant. Linux is much better off now, having improved greatly in the last three years (from last year to this year, a lot has changed even).

      It's a lot better now, but part of the reason I thought this was funny (although I'd seen it long ago) was that I spent all night installing Ubuntu on a laptop I got for free when we cleaned house at work.

      Pretty much everything on his list, I've done. I'm recompiling my kernel ATM to get my wireless card working.

      Still much better than when I ran a web/mail server for a student newspaper on Redhat 6 though.

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  18. Cause no one likes you! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't you get it yet? Are you that thick?

  19. supervillains by FudRucker · · Score: 1

    lol!

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    1. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GPL Sharon
      Yasser RedHat
      Kernel Saunders

    2. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Midnight Taco

    3. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kernel Saunders? Isn't that the chicken guy? I think I'd hardly call him a supervillain.

    4. Re:Supervillains by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Tell that to all the people suffering from obesity. I don't think it's a stretch to call Col. Saunders, Ray Crock or Dave Thomas mass-murderers, not for serving ultra-unhealthy food, but for mass-marketting it to kids from the youngest age and distorting their tastes, making them overweight junk-food addicts as adults.

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    5. Re:Supervillains by SharpFang · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Nice elder guy with white beard, sitting in the patio of the pretty white residence amongst trees, enjoying the golden chicken nuggets and good Brandy, while 500 black slaves work under a whip, in a cotton plantation behind the house.
      That's my mental image of him.

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    6. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What makes you think these are supervillains? To me, they just look like enemies of USA, and not being American, I don't see them as any worse than, say, Bush...

    7. Re:Supervillains by Geoffreyerffoeg · · Score: 1
      And a couple of people who some may consider supervillains...

      • George W. BSD
      • Mao Zed-ogg
      • NapoleOSS Bonapache
      • Gnunghis K-han
      • Nethack Ceausescu


      Oh, and if you were referring to the Axis of E-vil, then you forgot iAtollah CP/Meini.
    8. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      • Benito Mussilivi
      • Seddam Hussein (yes, a repeat, but a different variant)
      • poll(2) Pot
    9. Re:Supervillains by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      Uhm, Bill Gates?

      Naaahhh...

      BTW, I saw "Stealth" last night. Check out the Seattle ubergeek's secretary in the last half hour. Does anybody think Bill has a secretary that looks like that? She had legs that could span Puget Sound.

      Now, if I ever get my AI working, I definitely would have a secretary that looks like that.

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    10. Re:Supervillains by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Parents who spoil their kids by letting them eat whatever the fuck they want to eat are to blame. Fast food is meant to be an occasional treat, not your regular meal. But too many people, including adults, make the choice to shovel that garbage in their mouths instead of real food. The responsability lies with them, but with the fast food companies.

      BTW, what the fuck does this have to do with the topic you extremist nutjob?

  20. Re:OLD! by PsychicX · · Score: 1

    I feel better in the morning knowing I can always count on Slashdot to post something dated from at least a year ago.

  21. So old by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's like Karl Marx chasing down Jesus and the Dell Dude while astride a dinosaur.

  22. Shockwave? by bartjan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Isn't it ironic that there is no such thing as a shockwave player for Linux?

    1. Re:Shockwave? by cosmol · · Score: 1

      Although you might be happier just not installing it, there is an official flash player for linux.

    2. Re:Shockwave? by kevcol · · Score: 1

      It's a good thing then we are all reading and posting from our PowerBooks.

    3. Re:Shockwave? by verbatim_verbose · · Score: 1

      It would be, except it's not a shockwave animation - it's flash.

      As long as we're posting three year old flash clips, you don't expect an accurate description too, do you? ;)

    4. Re:Shockwave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have flash installed, and whenever I click on the link Firefox just says it wants to save some file with ".swf" extension. Is this some sort of virus? I know flash works because I can see homestar runner.

    5. Re:Shockwave? by Grant_Watson · · Score: 1

      As people have said before, Shockwave Flash != Shockwave, though this is really Flash and not Shockwave.

    6. Re:Shockwave? by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      .swf is Flash. Firefox sometimes flakes out when you try to run a non-embedded Flash animation with it.

    7. Re:Shockwave? by SlashSpam · · Score: 1
      macromedia doesn't release for linux

      It runs fine on my GNU/Linux system though. The trouble with flash is that there was no free (as in freedom) flash plugin. However, I guess our friends at the FSF can point you to a project that is working on just that.

      /Spam .
    8. Re:Shockwave? by Criterion · · Score: 1

      " What's so funny is the fact that, although they love linux, they still make the animaton in shockwave, which macromedia doesn't release for linux."

      Wow. I guess you need to tell my Debian box that, as it just played it flawlessly. The only possible reason for you to post that is that either you don't use Linux, or you suck at it.

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    9. Re:Shockwave? by The+Wicked+Priest · · Score: 1

      What's even funnier is that people just assume the description is right, when if they checked, they'd see it was Flash, not Shockwave.

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  23. Linux versus Windows by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 1, Flamebait
    "We were negotiating with the Pentagon. We had a Blue Screen of Death..."
    I have found Linux to be far less stable than Windows. I have used both on a lot of different systems, at work and at home. Linux is unlikely to completely crash (although it will—bad drivers or hardware are often the culprit). But KDE and Gnome go down all the time. It's not really fair to talk about applications. But Linux is the big loser there too.

    Windows XP, fully updated, rarely goes down. Like in Linux, the base system can often save the rest. You just need to restart explorer.exe. Real BSODs, in my experience, tend to be driver and hardware related. The hardware culprits for me have been: An ATI Radeon card, a motherboard (a revision of K7s5a fails memtest out of the box), and bad RAM, of coore than a year.

    None of my current Linux systems go for more than a month without X-Windows manager troubles. In one case, I know this to be a video card driver issue. The others, I have no idea about.
    1. Re:Linux versus Windows by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 1

      A garbled line of text there, sorry: "and bad RAM, of course. My Windows XP box has not gone down for more than a year."

    2. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must be new here. Whenever someone posts a relevant criticism of Linux on /., they get modded down as troll or offtopic, because we all know that Linux is superior to anything else, and any criticism of it is done purely out of evil intent, right?

    3. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing is. If GUI crashes on Windows. There is nothing you can do for it. But if X crashes on Linux, you can try another one, or third, or 4th, or... You get the point?

      And hey, you can always fix the bug that is causing the crash or pay someone to do it for you. That is freedom which is not an option with Windows where you can only report the bug to Microsoft and hope that they will fix it.

      And who uses X anyway, you can read slashdot with Lynx also.

    4. Re:Linux versus Windows by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 1

      You can end the explorer.exe process with Task Manager and start a new instance of it.

    5. Re:Linux versus Windows by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting
      But KDE and Gnome go down all the time. It's not really fair to talk about applications....Like in Linux, the base system can often save the rest.

      For most desktop use, though, an X crash (which is probably what you mean by "KDE and Gnome go down all the time") wipes out all your unsaved work and demands a reboot, just as a full-blown operating system crash does. The hair-splitting about "completely crash" doesn't change that.

      The bitching about BSODs goes back to when Linux use involved running vi in an xterm in FVWM on barebones video cards. In those days, the GUI really was rock-solid (and Windows was really as flimsy as people made out).

    6. Re:Linux versus Windows by Solra+Bizna · · Score: 1

      > ...KDE and Gnome go down all the time.

      You know... I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Windows machine for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my POS Pentium 133 running Gentoo, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

      In all seriousness, though, I've installed and used Linux on nearly a dozen boxes now. Lots of them weren't even x86. I have NEVER had anything short of hardware failure or my stupidity cause crashes. (Anyone else ever delete libc.so?)

      I also note that the parent post is being modded down for not preaching the joys of Linux...I would gladly have spent a mod point on "underrated" it if I hadn't spent all mine in the "Google + iTunes" story.

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    7. Re:Linux versus Windows by electronerdz · · Score: 1

      _Linux_ itself does not go down. XWindows might have a problem, but the system is still running and does not need to be restarted. And if X is the problem, don't run it. I have several systems here at home without X that run for months without a restart, and the only reason they go down is for me to blow the dust out of them. I have set up several servers for people that run for years without a restart, and the only reason they go down is because of power failure. I have an old ProLiant with a P166 or something that runs all the time without problems. Windows can't do that... you HAVE to restart. Either for updates, or because Explorer screwed up and needs to be restarted to clean it up. Don't knock Linux just because YOUR hardware was bad.

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    8. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey! Reality check: The flash animation is supposed to be funny, as in not necessarily 100% factually accurate.

      Oh and by the way, argumenting against the general quality of something based on your own experience is treading on thin ice. Shall I give you a demonstration?

      I have run gnome and linux for a long time, and neither of them has crashed, ever. See? I just sent your entire base for argumenting through the window!

      Better luck next time!

    9. Re:Linux versus Windows by electronerdz · · Score: 1

      If you don't need your task tray icons.

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    10. Re:Linux versus Windows by SilverspurG · · Score: 1
      an X crash ... wipes out all your unsaved work and demands a reboot,
      Perhaps you could enlighten me as to why an X crash demands a reboot or even wipes out all your work. My work? I use emacs inside a screen. Even if X dies a horrible death (which I've managed to pull off twice in the last six months by purposely attempting to use drivers labelled as experimental or not quite for my card) it's no different than if your ftpd choked. Restart and move on.

      While it can happen... it's VERY rare that choking X will damage the console environment. One reliable method to make this happen is to attempt to manually set the timings for the Svideo TV-out on a Radeon 7500. X loses its timings and the timing for the console display gets mutilated.

      I digress...
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    11. Re:Linux versus Windows by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 1

      unless of course your "console environment" is xterms, which is kind of the point of a GUI, windowed applications you can move, resize, overlap, etc...

    12. Re:Linux versus Windows by dhasenan · · Score: 1

      Sometimes X refuses input, and even pressing Ctrl-Alt-F doesn't switch back to the console.

    13. Re:Linux versus Windows by stwrtpj · · Score: 4, Funny
      I have found Linux to be far less stable than Windows.

      Wow, not only is the topic three years old, but so are the comments.

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    14. Re:Linux versus Windows by KillerBob · · Score: 3, Informative

      But KDE and Gnome go down all the time.

      You do realise that there's other desktop environments and window managers than KDE/Gnome, right? I find that those two DEs go down fairly frequently as well. Since switching to XFCE, however, I have never had a crash. Ever. It's absolutely rock-solid, and as long as it's development is focused on speed and stability over, say, bells&whistles, it's going to continue to be rock-solid.

      And if you don't like XFCE, there's nothing to stop you from using *box, fvwm, or hell, even tab-window-manager. Maybe your problems with X have less to do with X or Linux themselves, and more to do with your choice of using Desktop Environments with known memory leaks (KDE) and stability problems when dealing with unexpected library versions (Gnome).

      And in the event of an X crash, I wouldn't lose my documents, either. At most, I'd lose 5 minutes' work, because that's the interval at which AbiWord is set to autosave my work. Hell, my music wouldn't even stop playing, thanks to me using MPD.

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    15. Re:Linux versus Windows by Otter · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Perhaps you could enlighten me as to why an X crash demands a reboot or even wipes out all your work.

      Note that I prefaced my comment with "For most desktop use, though..." Most desktop use uses the GUI and an X crash wipes out all your work. Most desktop users don't have a second computer to ssh in and kill the locked-up X on the first.

      If the "At last, Linux Is Ready For The Desktop!" crowd wishes to add a caveat that "...as long as you do all your work in screen and have two computers" -- then, yeah, Linux almost never crashes.

    16. Re:Linux versus Windows by Taladar · · Score: 1

      ...and because after a few years I noticed I never use this my window manager now is ratpoison which removes all this resize, overlap, move bullshit and just keeps switch (and tile but I don't use that either 99% of the time).

    17. Re:Linux versus Windows by TrappedByMyself · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You do realise that there's other desktop environments and window managers than KDE/Gnome, right?
       
      Only if Linux is your hobby. Something it will never be, and shouldn't be, for the vast majority of people.
       
      "What? Grandma? You're having problems with the Linux box I conned you into buying? It doesn't work as well as your Windows one did? Well, you ignorant slut, don't you realize that the KDE and Gnome that came preinstalled are crap? Those are crashing, not your computer. You don't know the difference? And you do realize there other window managers out there. Jeez, quit whining about email and learn how to use your computer, you stupid whore."

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    18. Re:Linux versus Windows by SharpFang · · Score: 0, Troll

      Real BSODs, in my experience, tend to be driver and hardware related.
      Yes.
      Like, I/O driver.
      For CD-ROM, reading a scratched disk.
      Or Floppy.
      Or audio. AC97 codec dying because there was too much disk activity and it couldn't fill audio buffer for too long.
      Or the USB drive. Somewhere during the transfer the plug went loose and you see blue screen of death, "Please insert disk into drive G:".
      Or the network went down and an app dies because it can't "call home".
      Or the gfx card driver fails to reset after quitting a game and you're stuck with no video, have to reboot because you don't see a thing.

      Well, most software problems are only computer related too.

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    19. Re:Linux versus Windows by amliebsch · · Score: 1
      or because Explorer screwed up and needs to be restarted to clean it up.

      You don't need to reboot to restart explorer. Just kill it and start a new instance. GOSH!

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    20. Re:Linux versus Windows by khrtt · · Score: 1

      Next time you write a program that puts up a task tray icon, don't forget to process the explorer restart event:-). About half of the dumbasses out there who write these apparently don't bother.

    21. Re:Linux versus Windows by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      I've been using Linux now, with both KDE and Gnome, since 1999 and I can count my X crashes on the fingers of one hand... 3 in 6 years... I've long since given up counting BSODs

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    22. Re:Linux versus Windows by advocate_one · · Score: 1
      I also note that the parent post is being modded down for not preaching the joys of Linux...I would gladly have spent a mod point on "underrated" it if I hadn't spent all mine in the "Google + iTunes" story.

      The parent post is modded down because it's a pack of lies... that's all...

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    23. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Upgrade from Windows 98

    24. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny. Running XP with a 2500+ AMD and it only took me 15 seconds to copy a 200mb folder from one drive to the other. I think this is going back to 'stupid user syndrome' and not the OS.

    25. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      "any criticism of it is done purely out of evil intent, right?"

      On /., yeah, it is.

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    26. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      If Task Manager will decide to let you on that given day...

      Or not take an hour to do it.

      Killing a process and restarting X is trivial on Linux - MUCH more so than on Windows.

      The bottom line: Windows is STILL not a multi-user or even seriously multi-tasking OS compared to Linux. Windows can't find its ass with both hands.

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    27. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      "Most desktop users don't have a second computer to ssh in and kill the locked-up X on the first."

      Uhm, who needs ssh? Switch to a virtual terminal and kill the X process.

      Trivial (assuming the end user knows about virtual terminals and ls and kill -9 - and those ARE things a new user should learn even if 99% of their time is spent in X - just like a new Windows user should know about the Recovery Console.)

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    28. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      An X crash will, depending on how you start X, either drop you down to a console, or cause your display manager to re-start X and bring you back to the graphical login screen.

      Where in that is there any reboot?

      By the way, I haven't seen an X crash since 1999.

    29. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not an X crash, that's a lock-up. A crash would be if it has to terminate.

    30. Re:Linux versus Windows by Otter · · Score: 1
      Uhm, who needs ssh? Switch to a virtual terminal and kill the X process.

      Not if it's not responding to keyboard input...

      In any case, the real issue in an X crash or lockup is losing all your work, not whether or not a reboot is necessary.

    31. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously if you're using Windows and your GDI server crashes you are not going to be able to use the Command Prompt application. So why do you seem to think that a crashed X server could ever possibly allow you to use xterm?

      The "console environment" is the virtual console layer, which is separate from X. That's what he's talking about. I have no reason to believe you know anything in any detail about Linux or similar operating systems based on your post.

      At any rate, X server crashes are rare these days. This is all pretty much irrelevant.

    32. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      No, no, no.

      X does not control your keyboard in console mode.

      When X crashes, you do Alt-F1 to bring up a virtual terminal which is a CONSOLE app, and then you kill X. It has nothing to do with whether the X server is responding to keyboard input - you're using kill -9 from the console to tell the kernel to kill the job.

      It's done every day by somebody somewhere. I've done it on rare occasions when X has locked up.

      And whether you lose your work or not depends on the app that's running. Many editors, for instance, can reload a previous buffer that wasn't closed properly. I think vi does that, but I don't use it much, so I can't remember. Even in Windows, Word will recover a document in some circumstances.

      You definitely don't need a reboot.

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    33. Re:Linux versus Windows by man_of_mr_e · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Obviously if you're using Windows and your GDI server crashes you are not going to be able to use the Command Prompt application. So why do you seem to think that a crashed X server could ever possibly allow you to use xterm?

      I don't. That's the point. The common argument that if X crashes, your OS hasn't crashed is a strawman. Most users apps are going to be running in X anyways.

      The "console environment" is the virtual console layer, which is separate from X. That's what he's talking about. I have no reason to believe you know anything in any detail about Linux or similar operating systems based on your post.

      I know what he was talking about. I was pointing out that if you're running X, chances are you're running all, or most of your apps under X, such as in an xterm, which means those apps die as well.

      Yes, if you're running stuff in a Virtual Screen, in addition to X, the stuff in other screens will be fine, but that's small consolation to those that are not.

      At any rate, X server crashes are rare these days. This is all pretty much irrelevant.

      Just like BSOD's are rare on Windows, I would suppose. Same argument.

    34. Re:Linux versus Windows by Otter · · Score: 1
      When X crashes, you do Alt-F1 to bring up a virtual terminal which is a CONSOLE app, and then you kill X. It has nothing to do with whether the X server is responding to keyboard input - you're using kill -9 from the console to tell the kernel to kill the job.

      Uh, no shit-- that's great if you've crashed to the console. (Although why bother to kill -9 the X session then?) In the more common case of X crashing to a state of unresponsiveness, your Alt-F1 isn't going to help.

      This guy notes the same issue. I see someone has decided to up the hairsplitting stakes and insist that that's not a crash, it's a lock-up. OK, that's some consolation while you reboot and redo your work...

    35. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've installed a dozen or more flavors of Linux on dozens of machines and the only crash I got was my fault when I was first learning to use the OS..

      Seriously now, if you had the same problems in Windows, wouldn't you fix it?

      Nothing is perfect, dude..
      ~

    36. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      actually, after my upgrade to xorg in debian from xfree86 I neglected to reinstall the nvidia driver before restarting X. X started, became unresponsive, and took keyboard access with it. In order to fix the problem I had to ssh in from another machine, disable gdm on boot (so X wouldnt automatically start), restart, and reinstall the nvidia drivers. While this certainly isnt typical and was doubtless my fault, it is in fact an example of where your solution doesnt hold up.

      Also, I have to say, in the past couple years I've had X crashes for no discernable reason that had the same effect on my sys.

      While I've certainly had far more bsods on windows than X crashes on linux, it is true IMNSHO that serious X crashes are just as bad for the end user - the one without the other machine and the knowhow to ssh-in and fix the problem. Chances are my problem with the nvidia driver recently, if had by a newbie to linux would have prompted a reinstall as X would have simply kept coming up on startup and crashing (for all usable purposes for the normal end user) the machine. It's a good example of why even some of the more complete distros while perfectly suited for you and me, and not yet ready to be used on normal, end, PEBKAC users box.

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    37. Re:Linux versus Windows by dtfinch · · Score: 1

      My last X crash was the result of a video driver bug, the bug being that the driver trusted information provided by the bios, which was buggy. And it wasn't so much an X crash as it was a system crash.

      Generally, the function of X is too narrow for it to have many serious bugs at its old age.

    38. Re:Linux versus Windows by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      Only if Linux is your hobby. Something it will never be, and shouldn't be, for the vast majority of people.

      You do yourself a disservice by assuming that Gnome and KDE are the only viable DEs for X. I'm sensing that there isn't much point in trying to tell you otherwise, so I'll only bother to point out that even if you want a clone of the Windows or Mac UI, there's alternatives to Gnome/KDE. FVWM leaps to mind immediately, since it's actually supposed to be a Win clone with the default configuration....

      As for XFCE, it draws its inspiration from CDE, and should be pretty intuitive and require minimal configuration. Even the right-click program menu automatically updates itself for most applications you install. Couple that with a binary distribution like Debian and an X-based package installation tool, and you've got a ridiculously easy to use Linux system, requiring a minimum of configuration, and all without ever once touching KDE or Gnome.

      Jeebus, I'm starting to sound like some kind of fanboy....

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    39. Re:Linux versus Windows by empvirus · · Score: 1

      Just curious, how good is XFCE for gaming? I'm planning to go completely Linux for gaming and am currently using a Radeon 9600xt? I know, off topic, but I've wanted to know for quite a while.

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    40. Re:Linux versus Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And if you don't like XFCE, there's nothing to stop you from using *box, fvwm, or hell, even tab-window-manager.

      Well, just my sanity.

      But if I keep reading slashdot, that shouldn't keep bothering me for long.

    41. Re:Linux versus Windows by Criterion · · Score: 1

      "At any rate, X server crashes are rare these days. This is all pretty much irrelevant."

      That is, unless you use Xorg and are playing with composite. If it's not happy it WILL promptly lock up, with NO keyboard control. Then again, you learn real quick not to play around with composite if your machine doesn't like it.

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      We have enough youth, how about a fountain of SMART?
    42. Re:Linux versus Windows by KillerBob · · Score: 1

      Your choice of window manager has almost nothing to do with how the system is for gaming. FWIW, I play SuperTux, GTK-Board, and Battle for Wesnoth fairly frequently, and they all run great.

      What's important from the gaming perspective is your choice of X server, and your graphics driver. With X.Org 6.8.1 and the latest drivers from ATI, my desktop, which has a Radeon 9600 Ultra, gets about 13,000fps in glxgears, and around 100-150fps in things that actually matter like games. I play some games through Cedega or natively (NWN), but I also dualboot that system with XP Professional, which I use when I want to play games that don't run well under Linux.

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    43. Re:Linux versus Windows by AndreyF · · Score: 1

      You know... I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Windows machine for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. Um, copying a file from one folder to another shouldn't actually move any information on the hard drive, and should take less than a second.

    44. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      Christ, you still don't get it.

      You DON'T CRASH TO THE CONSOLE.

      You obtain a virtual terminal from the keystrokes that go to the terminal driver, NOT X. There is a terminal driver running which handles terminal connections. X has nothing to do with it.

      Jesus, learn something about Linux before running your mouth.

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    45. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      Well, if your drivers aren't even installed, let alone working, X is not exactly the cause of your problems, is it?

      Your average end user isn't going to be upgrading from X to Xorg and reinstalling video drivers anyway.

      Now, if they have a situation where X gets corrupted and crashes on boot, yes, they probably won't know how to drop to a command line, set init to run level 3, and debug the config file or reinstall the drivers or X from rpm or whatever.

      But how often is that going to happen? And compared to Windows, if Windows manages to screw the boot loader config (which has happened to me), if you don't know how to use the Recovery Console to edit the config file, you're hosed there, too.

      My point is simply that in the vast majority of cases where X crashes or freezes, killing the server from xkill or the CTRL-ALT-BS works, and if it doesn't, switching to a virtual terminal will.

      If the problem is more serious than that, as in your case, yes, people need to know more.

      And that is exactly the same on Windows. So there is no superiority in either case.

      On the other hand, try doing something like the screen utility in Windows...

      Another example: have you ever had a file on Windows be utterly UNTOUCHABLE? It's REALLY frustrating. By this, I mean a file that as soon as you click on it in Explorer or ANY file manager, the file manager INSTANTLY crashes. No waiting, no error messages, boom, it instantly dies. NOTHING can touch that file - not even from the Windows command line!

      I've had this several times, and it drives me nuts. I have to boot into Linux to delete the damn file because absolutely nothing in Windows will touch that file without crashing.

      I have still to determine what causes this problem - Google has been no help. There are tons of situations described on Google where Windows Explorer crashes and/or crashes regularly, and most of the time people have to reinstall because it's nearly impossible to determine the cause - because there are no config files, only incomprehensible Registry keys that may be corrupted. There are problems with corrupted thumbnails so Explorer preview bombs, and the like. Do a Google search for "Explorer crashes" and read a few pages.

      Confront a Windows user with those problems sometime, and see if they can solve it without a reinstall (or just ignoring that one file forever!)

      I keep telling people there is no point in bringing up situations where Linux has problems that can only be fixed from the command line because Windows has exactly the same sorts of issues, if different causes.

      I keep telling people:
      1) Windows is CRAP.
      2) Linux is ALSO CRAP.
      3) BUT Linux is FREE CRAP.

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    46. Re:Linux versus Windows by Otter · · Score: 1
      OK, one more try and then I'm done.

      You obtain a virtual terminal from the keystrokes that go to the terminal driver, NOT X. There is a terminal driver running which handles terminal connections. X has nothing to do with it.

      When X fails, it frequently leaves the user in a state where keyboard input is not registered. That includes your "keystrokes that go to the terminal driver".

      This guy has seen the same thing. This guy has seen the same thing. The fact that you apparently haven't doesn't make you clueful, just lucky.

    47. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      Yes, and one guy had a problem with the fact that his video drivers weren't even installed, let alone working.

      That's not X's fault. The bottom line is that MOST of the time, using killx or CTRL-ALT-BS will restart X and MOST of the REST of the time, a virtual terminal will allow the user to kill and restart X.

      If Windows hoses the boot config file (happened to me), and the end user doesn't know how to use the Recovery Console, he ends up reinstalling.

      My point is that there is NO point in bringing up situations where a Linux end user has to use the command line as some sort of defect in Linux that Windows doesn't have because Windows has EXACTLY the same sort of issues and Microsoft provides the Recovery Console for the same situations.

      In another post, I mentioned the case where Windows Explorer crashes regularly, or crashes when you try to even click on a file name. This has happened to me several times. Do a Google for how often the first situation happens to people. The second situation I still haven't solved except by booting into Linux to delete the file. Most Windows users would either have to ignore the file altogether forever, or reinstall.

      The original issue IIRC is that somebody referred to the BSOD, and somebody else said that an X crash is the same thing. Well, it isn't. X is recoverable in MOST situations. Nobody said ALL situations AFAIK.

      Nitpicking about WHICH situations is pointless because for every nitpick where some Linux user has to go to the command line, you can find a situation in Windows where a Windows user has to go to the command line.

      As I've repeatedly said here and elsewhere:
      1) Windows is CRAP.
      2) Linux is ALSO CRAP.
      3) BUT Linux is FREE CRAP.

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    48. Re:Linux versus Windows by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      But, of course, when I kill my X server, I've still lost all my work.

      And there are cases in which going to the command line isn't possible without a second computer. This, is course, is not worse than the situation under Windows. But, it still exists and it shouldn't. And it does make some X server lockups equivalent to a BSOD in that your only choice is to reboot.

    49. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

      "But, it still exists and it shouldn't"

      And when you figure out how to make perfect software that never crashes, I'm sure you'll open source it.

      And like I said, whether you lose your work or not when X crashes depends on the application. If it saves open buffers periodically, like some editors do (even Microsoft Word), you can recover.

      Actually, that's a feature I'd like to see put in the kernel - save open app buffers, maybe with some new system call.

      The bottom line is people are still reaching for reasons not to use Linux and harping on the existence of the command line, which is equally necessary in Windows. So the criticism is bullshit (I almost typed "billshit", which sounds like a great new term for "Microsoft shill bullshit".)

      There is no way that X crashes can be compared to BSOD's, either in frequency or severity. Period. One is a server crash, one is an OS crash. Period.

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    50. Re:Linux versus Windows by Omnifarious · · Score: 1

      If my keyboard isn't responding to input (not even Alt-Control-F1 to switch to a different virtual terminal) my mouse isn't moving, my screen isn't updating and I have no network connected, I fail to see how they're any different. Oh, you might have SETI@Home running on a work unit you downloaded when you did have a network connection, and it can continue going til it finishes even though you can't do anything else. Whee!

      Yes, that happens to me very rarely on X, but it does happen. I used to even have whole system crashes or spontaneous resets even from buggy display drivers. But that hasn't been an issue now for 2-3 years.

      Anyway, this is all moot. To my gf, who just wants to use the computer, she can't see much of a difference between having the X-server go funny so she has to shut it down and log back in, and having to reboot the computer. She seems more able than most to cause weird things like that to happen.

    51. Re:Linux versus Windows by WhiteDragon · · Score: 1

      yes, but X puts the keyboard in RAW mode, where the keys don't go to the vt driver. Secondly, I have seen X (especially on cheap video cards) trash the text mode consoles. You can, as other posters have mentioned, log in remotely and restart X, but your text modes are gone. I have in the past done Ctrl-Alt-F5 (or some vc that I know is unused) and blindly typed the commands to restart X. Lots of fun, since you can't see what you're typing, or if there is any effect. I usually do something like ls -R first, and watch the hard drive LED to make sure I'm at a command prompt. Then it's just a matter of typing the command to restart X (which in my case is /etc/init.d/gdm restart without making any tyops... great fun! :-/

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    52. Re:Linux versus Windows by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1


      It can leave the console in raw mode, yes.

      I believe there's a command to fix that, but you might indeed have to key it in blind.

      Still, this doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes. Depends on whether X just freezes or totally crashes. I haven't seen X totally crash too often. In fact, I can't remember when I last saw X crash. Usually this means serious problems with the video drivers or config, which means it may happen most often immediately after an install or driver upgrade. If X works at all, like most of Linux, it keeps on working.

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    53. Re:Linux versus Windows by Solra+Bizna · · Score: 1

      > You know... I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front
      > of a Windows machine for about 20 minutes now while it
      > attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard
      > drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my POS
      > Pentium 133 running Gentoo, which by all standards
      > should be a lot slower than this P4, the same operation
      > would take about 2 minutes. If that.

      Remind me never to assume anyone on Slashdot is familiar with the "standard" trolls.

      -:sigma.SB

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  24. This thing is called Flash for 5 years already! by tereshchenko · · Score: 2, Informative

    This thing is called Flash for 5 years already! And previously it wasn't simply Shockwave, but Shockwave Flash. Shockwave is the name of Macromedia Director's internet format and entirely different technology.

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    1. Re:This thing is called Flash for 5 years already! by The+Mysterious+X · · Score: 1

      Perhaps I have some magic configuration... but i'm currently running suse 9.2 from a pendrive (1gB, because my hard disk broke :(), and that movie worked fine.

  25. Slashdot... I thought we were smart?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It a FLASH animation, not a shockwave animation. Get it right the first time!

  26. And actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Macromedia has renamed SWF to "Small Web Format" I'm serious. I sat through a presentation and that's what they called it.

    1. Re:And actually by tereshchenko · · Score: 1

      Huh? I need to see this to believe this ;-)

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    2. Re:And actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that's one way to fight bloat...

  27. 'several' years old? try 5 by Cally · · Score: 1
    I had a vivid and specific memory of Slashdot last posting this, and I can date it 'cos I remember showing it to the goddam beret-wearing Mac freaks (us Linux/Slowaris/mod_perl folks had a friendly rivalry going with the shapemakers.) At the time I was working at a dotcom that went tits-up in July 2001. I only started there in October 2000, so that makes the Flash four to five years old.

    See how much has changed since then, as the Linux revolution in ease of use and consistency has swept the world's desktops.

    Yes Veronica, that was intended as sarcasm, not irony.

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    1. Re:'several' years old? try 5 by Gorath99 · · Score: 1

      'Fraid you're misremembering then, 'cause it's from Januari 2003. See http://www.ubergeek.tv/listing.php?list=animation

    2. Re:'several' years old? try 5 by Cally · · Score: 1

      Nope, it was definitely circulating before then. (Perhaps it wasn't a slashdot story that pointed me at it in 2000/01.) But it was definitely out then.

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  28. Supervillains by burtdub · · Score: 5, Funny
    Perhaps we can get other enemies to jump on the Linux bandwagon:

    • Osama Bin Linux
    • Saddam GNU-ssein
    • Kim Jong Moz-Il-la
  29. Re:Uh huh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish you wouldn't.

  30. Re:Uh huh. by Penguin · · Score: 1

    .. and yet you do. And even posting comments.

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  31. Wow. by hungrygrue · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wouldn't be surprised to see a /. story on, say, hampster dance in a few years. Not only has that video been around for years, but Darl Mcbride even referred to it in his "open letter" not long ago:

      A popular animation
                    on the Internet features a guy named Steve, the Linux Super Villain.
                    During the course of the 60 second animation, he describes his work
                    with Linux stating, "First you have to config it, then write some
                    shell scripts, update your RPMs, partition your drives, patch your
                    kernel, compile your binaries and check your version dependencies..."

    http://ca.us.biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050808/lam060.ht ml?.v=19

    http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/08/ 1717257&from=rss

    1. Re:Wow. by SilentChris · · Score: 1

      And, unfortunately, in 3 years that part of the Linux experience hasn't changed at all... :/

    2. Re:Wow. by MonkeyBoy · · Score: 1

      I'm so disappointed. I thought you were saying that McBride mentioned the hamster dance in one of his tirades.

      Nothing creates investor confidence like a CEO that's clearly gone completely insane.

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    3. Re:Wow. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um. If you hadn't noticed, what Steve describes is just _slightly_ exaggerated.

      But that's okay. This is slashdot. Truth need not apply when you're complaining about Linux!

    4. Re:Wow. by XXIstCenturyBoy · · Score: 1

      Or Windows. Or any other platform. This IS Slashdot. But we keep coming back...

    5. Re:Wow. by Criterion · · Score: 1

      Hamsters got nothing on badgers :D.

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  32. Re:Uh huh. by prider · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you don't like this site, why do you post so much? I did a quick search for posts by you "Anonymous Coward" and it looks like you're the biggest user of this site!

  33. surprise! by akhomerun · · Score: 0

    I think we might have shown it here before

    At least this article admits openly that it is a dupe.

    As for the flash animation, I found it mildly entertaining but somehow I feel like I've seen it before many years ago.

  34. Or... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He could've just not posted any new articles, keeping the ones that are there on the main page so we can discuss them more.

    Why we used to love /.: In the good ol' days, Taco and Hemos posted an article when there was something to post, maybe once an hour, maybe once a day. Articles stayed on the front page for days, and we managed to have meaningful discussions about them.

    Why we don't love it anymore: There's now a quota of one article per hour (or one per 2 hours during USA-side nights and weekends). This results in lots of lame articles and dupes, and makes the older articles disappear from the front page quickly. Unless you're glued to your computer, there's no way to carry on a meaningful discussion, and there's a rush by everybody to post a comment within the first few hours, flooding the articles with irrelevant stuff.

    Basically, slashdot's gone from quality to quantity. Great for ad revenue, not so great for readers.

  35. Sounds Like Nat Friedman by segedunum · · Score: 1

    Really. It does. If you've ever heard an interview with him or seen a presentation - that's him!

  36. Another classic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  37. Anyone else find it amusing... by m50d · · Score: 0, Redundant

    that they chose to do it in shockwave, which has no player available for linux?

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    1. Re:Anyone else find it amusing... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      umm, please explain. I just watched it. Linux. Firefox. Flash plugin. so, huh?

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    2. Re:Anyone else find it amusing... by Taladar · · Score: 1

      It is normal flash, just watched it on Gentoo.

    3. Re:Anyone else find it amusing... by hanavi · · Score: 1

      Dude, i am in linux and it works fine... it is a flash file, not shockwave...

    4. Re:Anyone else find it amusing... by m50d · · Score: 1

      It's actually flash rather than shockwave, stupid inaccurate summary. I assure you there is no shockwave player for linux, if there was I'd be playing miniclip's horribly addictive word leaves game right now.

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  38. Being a supervillian/evil overlord by travisco_nabisco · · Score: 3, Funny

    As long as people are posting old news, here is a guide to being an Evil Overlord http://www.evilrulers.com/eviloverlord.htm

    1. Re:Being a supervillian/evil overlord by PakProtector · · Score: 1

      Why don't you give credit to the person who actually made the list? It's at http://www.eviloverlord.com/.

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    2. Re:Being a supervillian/evil overlord by travisco_nabisco · · Score: 1

      Oops, my bad, I just googled it and took the first site that had it.

  39. Well, did you know... by SharpFang · · Score: 3, Funny

    that over 50% of terrorist websites run on Open Source webservers? :)

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  40. Sunday ... August by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why does it matter what day of the week or month it is? We get dupes every day of the week, year round.

  41. Slashdot by tveidt · · Score: 1

    Olds for 'tards. Stuff that mattered.

  42. While We're @ it (part 10) by BoomTechnology · · Score: 1

    apple switch parodies made by the olde english sketch comedy group...

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  43. Key word: August by jfengel · · Score: 1

    August is traditionally a slow news month. The US Congress is out of session. A lot of people are on vacation. People don't usually make major announcements. Maybe tech could be different, but as the article says, "News for Nerds" is a little thin on the ground.

    The other key word is "Sunday", meaning no companies issued press releases yesterday or today. If a company has done something interesting (and face it: in the tech world a lot of stuff gets done by companies) it comes out either as a press release or a leak. Slashdot usually runs a lot of "just amusing" stuff on Sundays.

    Yeah, it's a years-old Flash animation (which is really cute, but still... who even cares about the iMac ads that it's parodying?). So it's August. Take a breather.

    1. Re:Key word: August by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 0, Troll

      "So it's August. Take a breather. "

      Yup.

      Bush is.

      Again.

      It's September I'm worried about.

      Especially since the Net rumor is all military leaves have been canceled for September through December.

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  44. Re:OLD! by Nathonix · · Score: 2, Funny

    i stumbleupon'ed this last month....

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  45. I liked it! by TarryTops · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well I kinda liked it. It's Sunday and some nutty flash can't do me any harm, now can it?(Besides my RHEL4 which I'm trying to tune thru my VNC wirelessly).

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  46. Coincidentally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a strange coincidence that I was desperately searching for this flash video all week and happened to see it here today, just in time to show the family at the reunion.

    -Benjamin Vander Jagt
    -Vander Jagt Computers

    p.s., geez it was hard to figure out the hidden text this time!

    1. Re:Coincidentally by vishbar · · Score: 1

      You show flash animations parodying Linux at your family reunions?

      I'm not criticizing you or anything...your family must be different than mine.

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  47. Oh? by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    Is that why you use that little devil character as your mascot?

    1. Re:Oh? by Virak · · Score: 1

      That's FreeBSD, not NetBSD.

    2. Re:Oh? by UserGoogol · · Score: 1

      Good guys appreciate irony.

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  48. You'd think that he could at least pronounce Linux correctly.

    1. Re:as by zoloto · · Score: 1

      He is

      Really, you need to quit trolling or get an education.

  49. Gangsters are better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Become a Linux or BSD gangster today and cap a windows users ass!

  50. MOD PARENT UP... quoth the AC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MOD PARENT UP... quoth the AC

  51. This was as useless as the article- by purduephotog · · Score: 1

    At least the article's animation was smaller than the apple mov file. Or was that the point?

  52. We have the proof by jamesgriff · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well, did YOU know...

    > 68% of all websites run on Open Source webservers

    Assuming the rest run on some form of Microsoft webserver we can clearly se that Microsoft are directly advertising to terrorists

    Yet more proof that Microsoft are evil ;)

  53. Don't watch flash movies and drive by Kujila · · Score: 2, Funny

    Unlike wine, flash movies do not get better with age =P

  54. here's some news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  55. Last time I checked by jbdodson · · Score: 0

    You don't compile your binaries. You compile the source code and it becomes a binary. Funny, while I was at school some guy was trying to make fun of me and was all like "Yeah Linux is for nerds, cause I have to compile your binaries, hehehehe." I was all like "WTF What binaries do I compile, uhh right, I compile source." Wait, ...... I REALLY AM A DORK!

  56. Ellen Feiss? I think she turns 18 soon.. by infonography · · Score: 1
    I suspect there is an ulterior motive. Ellen Feiss of the those Apple switch commercials may be involved. Those came out when she was 15 in 2002, it's 2005 now she should be turning 18 soon. I suspect that a editor came across an old pic of her and couldn't find out when she turns 18, hence the posting.

    Well ok, time to reopen that issue and find out. Considering the current crop of vacuous airheads that are living in their 15 minutes now at least we know that one uses computers. I doubt she will ever say 'Chicken by the Sea".....

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  57. Are Slashdot editors paid on a Sunday ? by Gax · · Score: 1

    Dupes aside, are Slashdot editors paid on a Sunday? Do they get double time or do they work a 6 x days + 1 free shift.

    For the record, I haven't seen the animation before so it was new to me.

  58. I Loved It by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 1

    Being a long time comics reader and supervillain myself (well, wannabe, anyway), I believe in Linux!

    Kim Polese used this at her talk announcing SpikeSource last year. I had just downloaded it a few days before myself, so when I listened to the MP3 of her talk and heard this come on, I was like, "Oh, cool, Kim!"

    I count Kim as a "gorgeous fembot" for this coolness.

    Sadly, Linux has not yet improved my love life.

    But the orbiting brain laser research is going well on Mandrake 10.1 - to be upgraded to 2006 when it comes out.

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  59. Re:OLD! by ZephyrXero · · Score: 1

    This game, made by the same guy, is much much cooler ;)

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  60. Pardon me, but /. is like "Groundhog Day II" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It seems to me that Slashdot got stuck in an endless time loop where every day for last two years had been a Sunday in middle of an August.

    I guess non-news non-article just proves that it's better to have no news articles for a day, than to have crap that is neither article nor news.

  61. kde is stable by xmodem_and_rommon · · Score: 1

    maybe my standards are a bit low, but I have no problems leaving my debian system looged into a KDE desktop for a couple of weeks at a time.

    Windows XP, on the other hand, doesn't actuallly crash, but after a week it is so incredibly sluggish for me that it is unusable. The debian box, after its been running for a week, is as snappy as ever.

  62. Mac killed my inner child by heinousjay · · Score: 1


     

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  63. Not a shockwave animation by mikesown · · Score: 1

    Jeez it's not even a shockwave animation! *points to the SWF extension*

  64. Old times. by Georules · · Score: 1

    I remember a few years ago when I was about 17; I was angry that some people were posting some GNAA crap and just joking about the stupidity of the article. I was an internet geek -- and was sad when people made fun of something that had potential. Saw that very cartoon when it came out. Laughed in my glee running around on my brand spanking new DSL connection that would blink out every so often.

    Flash forward, now 20 years old, been looking at slashdot every once and a while. Seen all the complaints over the years, but never really understood. Bored with the internet, only checking one forum that I started moderating back then 1 time every 2 days. Post counts uninteresting, login ID numbers no longer a sign of seniority. I check slashdot using my 3 meg cable connection in my apartment at college to find an article presenting that cartoon I saw, what feels like, so long ago presented as new.

    My feelings verified. Same junk circling around from years past, and finally understand what people were complaining about back then. I have just been reading a website put together by some random person with nothing to do. Gods of the internet I saw back then, prove themselves just to be another Joe who is out to make a buck.

  65. Glad you like my animation! by Robotron2084 · · Score: 1

    I'm glad to see that people are still interested in this animation after all these years :). When I first made this animation, I didn't think the popularity would be what it is today. I was just having fun. I made this in 2002, and got a surprise bandwidth bill of $500 because of it. Now I've got a great server farm ( plug: www.cachefly.com ) that handles the load, so slashdot away :).

    Man, I've got to make a sequel some day!

    1. Re:Glad you like my animation! by Criterion · · Score: 1

      Hello kind sir! You are quite talented. Thanks for sharing :).

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  66. Shockwave? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What's so funny is the fact that, although they love linux, they still make the animaton in shockwave, which macromedia doesn't release for linux.

  67. New Low by shoptroll · · Score: 1

    And once again /. has managed to outdo itself...

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    Insert Sig Here
  68. Maybe a solution by bufalo_1973 · · Score: 1

    On linux: adzapper+squid? It works fine on my PC.

  69. OT by nounderscores · · Score: 1

    interesting. All it took was a single -1 Overrated mod a few comments ago and El Gordo was no more.

    And that Overrated mod was for asking the question:

    "A raw or frozen egg?"