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Tux Dolls?
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The Linux Mall has a solution.. There are an assortment of sizes, and a costume available.. Admittedly, they're not exact replicas of the Ewing Tux, but they are better than nothing. I do have a stuffed pengiun myself, but through other sources (a Hallmark store).
Methinks Slashdot needs a knowledge-mining FAQ;) ---
If you can associate a shopping list with the groccier, it wouldn't be hard to associate "turn on IR and colour adjustment" mode when some cute girl I like happens to walk by... "Clothes be gone!".. X-ray specs that work -- I'd buy that for a few hundred dollars! >;-) ---
"Actually, I'd prefer the obvious banner ads to the more insidious 'advertisement as content.' The more savvy the viewer, the more hidden the advertising. IMHO, anyways."
So let's all join hands and thank the public education system of the United States of America (and lazy, stupid people everywhere) for making it easier to filter out the useless and annoying advertisements targetted at the great unwashed!! ---
I use Shaw@Home here in the interior of Saskatchewan, and I have a very static IP (DHCP, yes; changing after lease expires, no -- it renews fine forever).
If you're worried about portscanning, Portsentry is very good. I used its "reverse" bind capability to make it automagically ipchains any fscking portscanner into the ground (FIN/SYN, or standard connect scanner). The @Home people, irc.home.com, and a friend doing a test FIN scan are the only ones to set it off so far (except for when I tried Win2k on the LAN, and it started probing port 445 for no reasons -- fecking MS). It's really good, and I feel better knowing it's there (and emailing me updates every 15 minutes):-) ---
there would be criminal action, none of which benefits the hospital or recovers monetary damages for the plantiff. Settle without admitting wrongdoing and the hospital gets to continue operating and the plantiff gets a nice tidy sum. Everybody's happy.
Except, of course, for the poor sods who end up dead or permanelty crippled, thanks to the hospital care. ---
From: xxxx (Dylan) 02:30 Subject: 01/13/00:02.30: Active system ATTACK! To: xxxx (Dylan)
Active System Attack Alerts =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119 Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
Security Violations =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119 Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
Unusual System Events =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119 Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
BwuhahahahahhahahahahahahahZHahh!!! I love IDS:-) ---
Here's the situation. The basic service where I live is 40$ with 100$ for installation (you can sweet talk the selling people, and they'll usually give you a free install as part of some 24/7 install or another). However, past your first CM (which is 40$ per month), you have to pay 20$ for each additional IP address past the first one. People think they can get around this any old way. I know some people, and was over with them at their neighbour's christmas party. They had 3 computers, but were unwilling to pay Shaw double the price for 2 more IPs. Their solution? Install Win[Proxy|Gate] (can't remember exactly which). Windows Proxy software is pathetic in terms of security, often riddled with easy to trigger buffer overflows. Add to that the fact that most people say "allow 0.0.0.0/24" to make their LAN setup painless, and the fact that they never audit their logs. It's a recipe for disaster. And it happens because @Home charges per IP.
My solution? I have my own firewall. It automagically blocks any hosts that probe it, I've audited it, I've nmapped it, and I've even attacked with with script kiddie tools (and had script kiddies attack it from a few IPs, which have since been ipchains blocked).
What will happen? Since I run a webserver (homepage), mail server (@Home servers are spammed like nuts), DNS server (my hostname), FTP server (my files), SSH server (secure remote admin from anywhere), and occasionally host Quake games (not recently, though) and Icecast (mainly for LAN tunes), they'll probably throw the book at me. People like me are going to get hurt. People who run Winproxies are going to get a stern talking to, but they'll likely get off scott free.
Why? Because they're closer to the AUP (the never enforced AUP). All the people inside @Home I've talked to have always said that they only enforce the AUP when they see gigs/day transfers (huge warez/porn/spammers, basically). I'm just a side victim, running the illegal servers. ---
I'll buy the magic modem that gets 9k/s on dialup. I'm sure the technology in it is very patentable, and bordering on the arcane as the last time I checked, analog lines did 3k/s max, with a 5k/s cap downstream only possible on special digital/analog conversion loops (X2/KFlex). ---
I hear you, brother. I'm in the Saskatoon area, so our IPs are 24.6[4,5,6,7] type. Not as many as your Ontarian ranges, and the prices are competitive (40$ per month Cdn, as we have ADSL locally for a similar price). The upstream between users is 20kib/s, and to the word about 15 to 30kib/s. It's been up to 60kib/s, but that was a year ago (things have been going downhill). I've (numerous times) tried to have the @Home people check their damned mail servers. A lot of messages to my @Home email address (which I just don't use anymore -- I run my own mailserver, and to hell with their AUP) had "X-Apparently-To:" followed by a few hundred @Home email addresses. Broken mailserver allowing easier spamming? No kidding, they use an old NT Mail (which I could probably crack into, using a simple script kiddie exploit from Bugtraq or NTBugtraq).
The worst, though, is that their irc.home.com server tries to telnet to every client that connects to it. It set off my IDS, and I've left the ipchains rule in force ever since. It's a shame that they are the only broadband provider which doesn't use NAT (breaks everything), and can have a fairly decent upstream at times. ---
Is there a nice site that allows people to share their killfiles and spam filters? It'd be nice for me to be able to head to rec.arts.poetry or similar, and have a killfile maintained by the community (in the same way that Waldherr's Junkbuster has a community maintained blocklist.
Perhaps as an extension to NNTP, an FAQ, Killfile, and other info links would be available in the info for the group (as meta fields), allowing people to not have to wait for the FAQ to be posted, etc. ---
I remember carrying out interesting conversations with people in 1995 on Usenet. News was a strange and wonderful thing, and I enjoyed it. Today, however...
Moderated groups, so far, are the only good kind. And they are not supported on all servers. There are also forms of censorship, with the local ISP not carrying all the groups (and allowing you choice). Several people I know have wondered about better ways, and some have gone so far as to developing new protocols, etc. Let's hope Usenet can self govern away the evil that is spam and crossposting unrelatedly, and let us get back to the Fidonet echo level of signal/noise. ---
Those Ars technica (Technical Arts,:-)) people must've read the Linux Kernel 3.0 joke post, refering mainly to After-Y2K stuff..
"Also, the 3.0 kernel should be out in the not-too-distant future, and Linux will only get better."
Unless Linus has changed his 2.4 plans, it's still 2.4.. Maybe 2.5 will morph into 3.0, but first we need 2.4 before 2.5 forks off, and then we need at least 12 months for a "major" version change worth of work. Really. It's a shame that such a good piece of review has such an obvious typo. Then again, they might've been confused by this piece of information, even though it really didn't mention release dates. Oh well, caveat Ars Technica. ---
"I have noticed for a while my cable TV company replaces some of the add breaks between shows with there own. I have oftain wondered if the advertiser knew they would lose coverage... or if the station knew.... "
The thing is you pay to get cable TV into your home. What does this buy you? The channels comming in are often subsidised by the local retailiers paying the local cable monopoly to stick in their ads. In the case of a local TV station and a remote one (like CanWest Global and a US Fox affiliate), they just duplex the Global broadcast to both channels. So clearly the cable people are making money from this... So why are we paying? We're paying for advertisements!
I wish an ultimate subscriber based system would finally appear. I'm betting that the 40$ I pay per month for Cable TV would be reduced to 20$ if I just paid Space for the rights to watch Babylon 5, and some of their movies, as well as the Comedy network for some of their shows. The only problem is that the cable company's monopoly would disapear, as they would receive zero adveninue. Sigh. ---
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Live or Memorex?
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"And one thing that has been possible in TV since the beginning --- and which is much more effective --- is to reorder parts of an interview, for example, or to leave stuff out."
Ever watch 60 Minutes? I swear, every damned interview they show.. Cut to interviwerer, cut to interviewee, etc.. The way they shoot it practically implies they've gone and rededited it for content. The same for most ads that involve testimonials. Gah, this is why I don't watch TV anymore. People feel that they can get away with manipulation of information to further their own ends.
Prove that they are wrong. Ignore ads. Buy only what you need, and rarely buy "wants" unless it would really help you. Become a human being, not just some advertising or "prolfeed." (plug Adbusters culture jammer headquarters, or here for a direct to their homepage without mouse-over intro version) ---
As the other fellow suggested, Squid would provide a nice way to audit what comes in. IJB also provides a nice regexp based blocker (based on URLs, not content). You could homebrew an IJB list that blocks common "XXX" domains, as well as advert blocking. IPchains provides a nice way to completely blocking some machines (I use it as a responce to port scanning, among other things). I'm not sure if there are proxies that filter based on textual content (I think image content would be the hardest, and would likely require Lisp;)), but Freshmeat might have one listed. ---
The letter is pretty interesting, if you can read around the Babelfished munging of some of the translation on the English side. Here's my summary of the important paragraphs: This letter is published as a responce because the company felt the users' group misrepresented them a bit, and (purposely or not) didn't reveal some key pieces of information.
They asked themselves (when they formed their business) what would happen if someone came along and registered "Linux" with the local trademark office. This is because they are not sure what would happen if they went into business with their products, and someone came along and registered the name. Think of that pathetic fellow who tried to blackmail RedHat, et all, through trademarking Linux in the US.
They couldn't think of a good solution to their problem. However, they were aware that the board of a local users' group had members which tended ot look out for their own person interests over the integrity of the group. They were afraid that the LUG might go and secure rights as a lever to control Linux trade in the country.
They decided that they must act in defence of their own work, and trademark it before they did (kinda like the US vs Soviet nuclear arms race -- premptive strike tactics). They releaise that this might be misinterpreted by some as a hostile act.
In hindsight, they think that they were right to do it because they did discover a pending trademark application for the "Linux" name in several areas (Classes 9 (computers, hardware, etc), 35 (publicity) and 42 (various, including computer services))
At the time the LUG did not know about the company's registration, and so could their motives are suspect -- especially considering the blanket coverage they picked. The LUG became aware of the company registration, and tried to cut a deal with the company. Once the company said they wouldn't negociate with them (because the LUG wanted to retain the rights in all mentioned areas), they publicised the situation on the Internet.
The next industrial bulliten will show the company's information about the ULUG's "behind the scenes" manipulation to be true.
Their lawyers will respond by defending their claim.
-- End summary --
I know from dealing with people involved in hobbyist groups (Fidonet) that sometimes the hobbists will abuse their power. I think that both sides have valid concerns. Clearly what the situation needs is a trustable, acceptable third party.. I'm thinking Linus Torvalds, for obvious reasons:-) ---
From the original message: then buy one box per credit card
That is stealing, as this would be using other people's credit card numbers. "you could," sure, but I don't really want the Linux community to be associated with a band of thieves in a public forum:-/ ---
(Humourous sarcasm) Once there was a Steve, and he had Jobs. His Jobs were to fix Apple. So to make sure he kept on task, and that others' wouldn't take his time with managerial fluf, he became the interum CEO (iCEO). And all was good.
Jobs recognised that Apple needed a computer to catch the masses attention, at least long enough for them to buy Apple products. He developed an interum Macintosh to serve as a "training" computer -- it is called the iMac. And Apple market share increased, and all was good.
Then Steve recognised that people liked portability. Laptops were used on airplanes, but his iMacs couldn't go on them. So he designed the iBook, an interum laptop to be used until people bought the less flashy (and less garish, although more expensive) normal Macintosh laptops. To associate it strongly with planes, he included the "Airport" wireless network. And real CEOs bought iBooks, and Apple market share increased, and all was good.
But Steve was slow on the uptake. A veritable forest of palms had sprung up, each with a Dragon inside. Steve had no Dragons, and someone else had stolen his transparent colour plastic idea, but he did have the licences for the Rossetta code. Steve began releasing the iPalm (use it until you buy something more expensive/functional from Apple). And the iPalm was purchased by computer illiterates, and real CEOs bought the iBook, and Apple market share increased, and all was good. (/Humourous sarcasm)
The 'i' stands for (IMO) interum more than anything else. Any company that sticks 'i' or 'e' onto the front of a name to increase sales should be yelled at (or at least have their marketting departments destroyed). "iMac" "eMachines eOne".. it's gross.:-)
Methinks he just wants to be able to tinker. I fully understand, as I'd love to tinker with the guts of a nice portable thing like that. Look at all the TI graphing calculator hacks (new OSes, Tetris, other games, overlocking):-) ---
Anyway, don't take it personaly. The critics are helping you improve your post. It's the opensource way, right?;)
Arg, don't defuse my anger:-P Oh well, too late.
If you're talking about IE integration, I'd like to not have x * 100mb (where X is >= 1) of IE code on the HD. Oh wait, I use Linux..
The autoignore feature would be nice, as well as more user controls. IE: control the autoignore level, etc. PGP-style authentication could work, with each user getting a public key from a company they want bullitens from, putting the smart card in their radio, and only gettings bullitens from that company. Just an idea. ---
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The Linux Mall has a solution.. There are an assortment of sizes, and a costume available.. Admittedly, they're not exact replicas of the Ewing Tux, but they are better than nothing. I do have a stuffed pengiun myself, but through other sources (a Hallmark store).
;)
Methinks Slashdot needs a knowledge-mining FAQ
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How could great technology be held back from the wanting consumer and producers of today.
Are you driving an electric car? I'm certainly not...
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When I looked this over, I had a great idea..
.. X-ray specs that work -- I'd buy that for a few hundred dollars! >;-)
If you can associate a shopping list with the groccier, it wouldn't be hard to associate "turn on IR and colour adjustment" mode when some cute girl I like happens to walk by... "Clothes be gone!"
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Thankfully, it's very easy to defeat all advantage :-) Free web, advertising free!
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"Actually, I'd prefer the obvious banner ads to the more insidious 'advertisement as content.' The more savvy the viewer, the more hidden the advertising. IMHO, anyways."
So let's all join hands and thank the public education system of the United States of America (and lazy, stupid people everywhere) for making it easier to filter out the useless and annoying advertisements targetted at the great unwashed!!
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I use Shaw@Home here in the interior of Saskatchewan, and I have a very static IP (DHCP, yes; changing after lease expires, no -- it renews fine forever).
:-)
If you're worried about portscanning, Portsentry is very good. I used its "reverse" bind capability to make it automagically ipchains any fscking portscanner into the ground (FIN/SYN, or standard connect scanner).
The @Home people, irc.home.com, and a friend doing a test FIN scan are the only ones to set it off so far (except for when I tried Win2k on the LAN, and it started probing port 445 for no reasons -- fecking MS). It's really good, and I feel better knowing it's there (and emailing me updates every 15 minutes)
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As for servers and Linux, they don't care about Linux and don't leave your servers on default ports.
Parse error: it doesn't make sense for them to not leave my servers on default ports..
Do you mean "Just don't leave daemons bound to the default ports, and they won't notice" ?
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there would be criminal action, none of which benefits the hospital or recovers monetary damages for the plantiff. Settle without admitting wrongdoing and the hospital gets to continue operating and the plantiff gets a nice tidy sum. Everybody's happy.
Except, of course, for the poor sods who end up dead or permanelty crippled, thanks to the hospital care.
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Hmmm...
:-)
From: xxxx (Dylan) 02:30
Subject: 01/13/00:02.30: Active system ATTACK!
To: xxxx (Dylan)
Active System Attack Alerts
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
Security Violations
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
Unusual System Events
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: SYN/Normal scan from host: ops-scan.home.net/24.0.94.130 to TCP port: 119
Jan 13 02:16:12 xxxxx portsentry[1627]: attackalert: Host 24.0.94.130 has been blocked via dropped route using command: "/sbin/ipchains -I input -s 24.0.94.130 -j DENY -l"
BwuhahahahahhahahahahahahahZHahh!!!
I love IDS
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It's so much cheaper than Source Adult Video!
;)
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Here's the situation. The basic service where I live is 40$ with 100$ for installation (you can sweet talk the selling people, and they'll usually give you a free install as part of some 24/7 install or another). However, past your first CM (which is 40$ per month), you have to pay 20$ for each additional IP address past the first one. People think they can get around this any old way. I know some people, and was over with them at their neighbour's christmas party. They had 3 computers, but were unwilling to pay Shaw double the price for 2 more IPs. Their solution? Install Win[Proxy|Gate] (can't remember exactly which). Windows Proxy software is pathetic in terms of security, often riddled with easy to trigger buffer overflows. Add to that the fact that most people say "allow 0.0.0.0/24" to make their LAN setup painless, and the fact that they never audit their logs. It's a recipe for disaster. And it happens because @Home charges per IP.
My solution? I have my own firewall. It automagically blocks any hosts that probe it, I've audited it, I've nmapped it, and I've even attacked with with script kiddie tools (and had script kiddies attack it from a few IPs, which have since been ipchains blocked).
What will happen? Since I run a webserver (homepage), mail server (@Home servers are spammed like nuts), DNS server (my hostname), FTP server (my files), SSH server (secure remote admin from anywhere), and occasionally host Quake games (not recently, though) and Icecast (mainly for LAN tunes), they'll probably throw the book at me. People like me are going to get hurt. People who run Winproxies are going to get a stern talking to, but they'll likely get off scott free.
Why? Because they're closer to the AUP (the never enforced AUP). All the people inside @Home I've talked to have always said that they only enforce the AUP when they see gigs/day transfers (huge warez/porn/spammers, basically). I'm just a side victim, running the illegal servers.
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"when i can compare that with 9k on dialup."
I'll buy the magic modem that gets 9k/s on dialup. I'm sure the technology in it is very patentable, and bordering on the arcane as the last time I checked, analog lines did 3k/s max, with a 5k/s cap downstream only possible on special digital/analog conversion loops (X2/KFlex).
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I hear you, brother. I'm in the Saskatoon area, so our IPs are 24.6[4,5,6,7] type. Not as many as your Ontarian ranges, and the prices are competitive (40$ per month Cdn, as we have ADSL locally for a similar price). The upstream between users is 20kib/s, and to the word about 15 to 30kib/s. It's been up to 60kib/s, but that was a year ago (things have been going downhill).
I've (numerous times) tried to have the @Home people check their damned mail servers. A lot of messages to my @Home email address (which I just don't use anymore -- I run my own mailserver, and to hell with their AUP) had "X-Apparently-To:" followed by a few hundred @Home email addresses. Broken mailserver allowing easier spamming? No kidding, they use an old NT Mail (which I could probably crack into, using a simple script kiddie exploit from Bugtraq or NTBugtraq).
The worst, though, is that their irc.home.com server tries to telnet to every client that connects to it. It set off my IDS, and I've left the ipchains rule in force ever since. It's a shame that they are the only broadband provider which doesn't use NAT (breaks everything), and can have a fairly decent upstream at times.
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Is there a nice site that allows people to share their killfiles and spam filters? It'd be nice for me to be able to head to rec.arts.poetry or similar, and have a killfile maintained by the community (in the same way that Waldherr's Junkbuster has a community maintained blocklist.
Perhaps as an extension to NNTP, an FAQ, Killfile, and other info links would be available in the info for the group (as meta fields), allowing people to not have to wait for the FAQ to be posted, etc.
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I remember carrying out interesting conversations with people in 1995 on Usenet. News was a strange and wonderful thing, and I enjoyed it. Today, however...
Moderated groups, so far, are the only good kind. And they are not supported on all servers. There are also forms of censorship, with the local ISP not carrying all the groups (and allowing you choice). Several people I know have wondered about better ways, and some have gone so far as to developing new protocols, etc. Let's hope Usenet can self govern away the evil that is spam and crossposting unrelatedly, and let us get back to the Fidonet echo level of signal/noise.
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Those Ars technica (Technical Arts, :-)) people must've read the Linux Kernel 3.0 joke post, refering mainly to After-Y2K stuff..
.. Maybe 2.5 will morph into 3.0, but first we need 2.4 before 2.5 forks off, and then we need at least 12 months for a "major" version change worth of work. Really. It's a shame that such a good piece of review has such an obvious typo. Then again, they might've been confused by this piece of information, even though it really didn't mention release dates. Oh well, caveat Ars Technica.
"Also, the 3.0 kernel should be out in the not-too-distant future, and Linux will only get better."
Unless Linus has changed his 2.4 plans, it's still 2.4
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"I have noticed for a while my cable TV company replaces some of the add breaks between shows with there own. I have oftain wondered if the advertiser knew they would lose coverage... or if the station knew.... "
The thing is you pay to get cable TV into your home. What does this buy you? The channels comming in are often subsidised by the local retailiers paying the local cable monopoly to stick in their ads. In the case of a local TV station and a remote one (like CanWest Global and a US Fox affiliate), they just duplex the Global broadcast to both channels. So clearly the cable people are making money from this...
So why are we paying? We're paying for advertisements!
I wish an ultimate subscriber based system would finally appear. I'm betting that the 40$ I pay per month for Cable TV would be reduced to 20$ if I just paid Space for the rights to watch Babylon 5, and some of their movies, as well as the Comedy network for some of their shows. The only problem is that the cable company's monopoly would disapear, as they would receive zero adveninue. Sigh.
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"And one thing that has been possible in TV since the beginning --- and which is much more effective --- is to reorder parts of an interview, for example, or to leave stuff out."
Ever watch 60 Minutes? I swear, every damned interview they show.. Cut to interviwerer, cut to interviewee, etc.. The way they shoot it practically implies they've gone and rededited it for content. The same for most ads that involve testimonials. Gah, this is why I don't watch TV anymore. People feel that they can get away with manipulation of information to further their own ends.
Prove that they are wrong. Ignore ads. Buy only what you need, and rarely buy "wants" unless it would really help you. Become a human being, not just some advertising or "prolfeed." (plug Adbusters culture jammer headquarters, or here for a direct to their homepage without mouse-over intro version)
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AFIAK, the LinuxOne plan is as follows:
Phase 1: Name "LinuxOne" and announce IPO
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit!
:-) Methinks Mr. X or whomever over there has watched too much Southpark.
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As the other fellow suggested, Squid would provide a nice way to audit what comes in. IJB also provides a nice regexp based blocker (based on URLs, not content). You could homebrew an IJB list that blocks common "XXX" domains, as well as advert blocking. IPchains provides a nice way to completely blocking some machines (I use it as a responce to port scanning, among other things). I'm not sure if there are proxies that filter based on textual content (I think image content would be the hardest, and would likely require Lisp ;)), but Freshmeat might have one listed.
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The letter is pretty interesting, if you can read around the Babelfished munging of some of the translation on the English side. Here's my summary of the important paragraphs:
:-)
This letter is published as a responce because the company felt the users' group misrepresented them a bit, and (purposely or not) didn't reveal some key pieces of information.
They asked themselves (when they formed their business) what would happen if someone came along and registered "Linux" with the local trademark office. This is because they are not sure what would happen if they went into business with their products, and someone came along and registered the name. Think of that pathetic fellow who tried to blackmail RedHat, et all, through trademarking Linux in the US.
They couldn't think of a good solution to their problem. However, they were aware that the board of a local users' group had members which tended ot look out for their own person interests over the integrity of the group. They were afraid that the LUG might go and secure rights as a lever to control Linux trade in the country.
They decided that they must act in defence of their own work, and trademark it before they did (kinda like the US vs Soviet nuclear arms race -- premptive strike tactics). They releaise that this might be misinterpreted by some as a hostile act.
In hindsight, they think that they were right to do it because they did discover a pending trademark application for the "Linux" name in several areas (Classes 9 (computers, hardware, etc), 35 (publicity) and 42 (various, including computer services))
At the time the LUG did not know about the company's registration, and so could their motives are suspect -- especially considering the blanket coverage they picked. The LUG became aware of the company registration, and tried to cut a deal with the company. Once the company said they wouldn't negociate with them (because the LUG wanted to retain the rights in all mentioned areas), they publicised the situation on the Internet.
The next industrial bulliten will show the company's information about the ULUG's "behind the scenes" manipulation to be true.
Their lawyers will respond by defending their claim.
-- End summary --
I know from dealing with people involved in hobbyist groups (Fidonet) that sometimes the hobbists will abuse their power. I think that both sides have valid concerns. Clearly what the situation needs is a trustable, acceptable third party.. I'm thinking Linus Torvalds, for obvious reasons
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From the original message:
:-/
then buy one box per credit card
That is stealing, as this would be using other people's credit card numbers. "you could," sure, but I don't really want the Linux community to be associated with a band of thieves in a public forum
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(Humourous sarcasm)
.. it's gross. :-)
Once there was a Steve, and he had Jobs. His Jobs were to fix Apple. So to make sure he kept on task, and that others' wouldn't take his time with managerial fluf, he became the interum CEO (iCEO). And all was good.
Jobs recognised that Apple needed a computer to catch the masses attention, at least long enough for them to buy Apple products. He developed an interum Macintosh to serve as a "training" computer -- it is called the iMac. And Apple market share increased, and all was good.
Then Steve recognised that people liked portability. Laptops were used on airplanes, but his iMacs couldn't go on them. So he designed the iBook, an interum laptop to be used until people bought the less flashy (and less garish, although more expensive) normal Macintosh laptops. To associate it strongly with planes, he included the "Airport" wireless network. And real CEOs bought iBooks, and Apple market share increased, and all was good.
But Steve was slow on the uptake. A veritable forest of palms had sprung up, each with a Dragon inside. Steve had no Dragons, and someone else had stolen his transparent colour plastic idea, but he did have the licences for the Rossetta code. Steve began releasing the iPalm (use it until you buy something more expensive/functional from Apple). And the iPalm was purchased by computer illiterates, and real CEOs bought the iBook, and Apple market share increased, and all was good.
(/Humourous sarcasm)
The 'i' stands for (IMO) interum more than anything else. Any company that sticks 'i' or 'e' onto the front of a name to increase sales should be yelled at (or at least have their marketting departments destroyed). "iMac" "eMachines eOne"
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Methinks he just wants to be able to tinker. I fully understand, as I'd love to tinker with the guts of a nice portable thing like that. Look at all the TI graphing calculator hacks (new OSes, Tetris, other games, overlocking) :-)
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Anyway, don't take it personaly. The critics are helping you improve your post. It's the opensource way, right? ;)
:-P Oh well, too late.
Arg, don't defuse my anger
If you're talking about IE integration, I'd like to not have x * 100mb (where X is >= 1) of IE code on the HD. Oh wait, I use Linux..
The autoignore feature would be nice, as well as more user controls. IE: control the autoignore level, etc. PGP-style authentication could work, with each user getting a public key from a company they want bullitens from, putting the smart card in their radio, and only gettings bullitens from that company. Just an idea.
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