I hate to say this, but your rate on Marxist-Leninist ideology is 'non-satisfactory' (the lowest BTW and you have to pass the exam again:) 1. Niether communism, nor capitalism are _ideologies_. They are political formations. 2. Marx builds his theory on definitions on property _and_ labor. In other words if you are using neighbours program without his permission, you still violate the law, because you use fruits of his labor. 3. Computer hardware still remains basic mean of production and in 'proletarian state' it could be available, although not to everyone and through govt regulations, whereas OSS doesn't provide the movement with hardware of any kind. (Sometimes I regret there's no national/global body issuing computer licenses- some kiddies are fscking annoying:) But I completely agree with you that we can not compare political formations with movements and initiatives of any kind.
Really, seems like Mr. Barbrook has just picked up a couple of phrases here and several words there.... 1. SU has never had a priority goal in IT/CS. There were '3 whales': ideology, military strength and space program. Everything that could help 'the whales', was blessed by the govt. And certainly we were good at it. Just compare how many SU cosmonauts and US astronauts have _actually_ been to space. Technical education in SU was rather classical and based on heavy math. These days mathematicians from different defsnse and space program help out with poor COBOL design to fix Y2K in software produced in US and used there and sold to Russia. Soviet nuclear weaponry doesn't suffer from this problem. 2. R.B. insists that US weapons are unbeatable and all that. There's no such a weapon by definition. Also, this depends too much on the hand that pushes the button. And he could pay more attention to 'independent' press on Kosovo massacre held out by NATO. I mean media in countries not directly involved in the conflict (Asia, Africa, there's the whole world around us, really) 3. This part I 'loved' the most and couldn't get past it: "Managers and other professionals".... Oh boy.... Please, get me right. I grown up in SU and know about it probably more than anyone other in/. I don't idealize it, in no way....
What if OS were air companies.... UNIX: Crew and passengers sit on runway to form the silhouette of an airplane, after pilot's command they run woeing and take off.... Interesting is that both minimalists and GUIsts are right. What's missed IMHO is that UNIX-like OSs provide a unique possiblilty to build extremely customizable thin-IDEs with all whiz-bang features. Do developers need project/object/thisject/thatject browsers? Yes. Intergated debugging? Sure. Syntax highlight? We can't live without it But most of the job is already done: grep, make, diff, perl etc etc. Just put them together and feed the output to a (relatively) simple editor. Moreof, most of nowadays Linux IDEs bring up a new set of reuirements. The most important of them is that IDEs should be configurable to work with almost any compiler/debugger available. This is True Linux Spirit, unlike what Inprise is trying to push through. And for those who care: RHIDE still rocks. I use it daily and it's great. Good news is that as long as Borland TC/TP code is public domain now, RHIDE editor C++ source is now available.
Well, I just doubt that people who can't understand 'Space Odyssey...' are all that intelligent. Sir A. Clarke's novel was written about us and for us. Most of his predictions became true. Apparently he was rating our intelligence too high when writing his '2000'. Damn it's like that crappy Romeo and Juliet movie. This will be really a pisser if mainstream movie industry turns a chez d'oeuvre into another piece of crap:(
I don't know about you but I couldn't force myself to read further beyond "WordPerfect and other word processors are called 'client' applications...." Completely incompetent article. Everything is messed up- terminology, basics. This reminded me reading an article in our local newspaper about NATO missiles misguided by 'Russian hackers' for they (missiles) have memory divided in two parts: "the LEFT PART OF MEMORY contains target coordinates whereas the right one holds the pic of the target" and missile is looking at the pic not to hit something else:)
I think moderators are good at putting down noisy things like 'Fsck BG/LT'or 'First Post'. However, I was unable to find a comment that impressed me too much to deserve 3 or 4. IMHO. Probably, this is a problem of a non-native speaker, but I used to think 'Insightful' means something that sheds a light on something previously unkonwn or obscure. Rather than just saying 'grey could turn into white if you raise RGB to 255 each' Again, this is just IMHO, no intent to offend anyone. BTW, some 'random' articles appeared duplicated, that's why I didn't vote. Is this a problem with my Lynx?
Well, I think that you slightly missed the point. Noone is going to teach programming. They want to teach younger students to 'read and understand' a simple code and make minor improvements to it. This is more real to achieve and more usefull. Behaviour of today's programs is defined by three parts: code, user input and configuration files. Think of configuration files as (Python?) scripts and imagine end users able not only pushing buttons but also to fine-tune a program to meet their needs by editing a (relatively) simple script. Something like this we already have in *nix: shell interpreters with redirection and pipes. Of course, users familiar with Python or whatever programming language will find themselves _empowered_ by pipes and redirection, not confused like click-o-rama addicts. And this will make life for us. programmers, much easier. BTW, learnign foreign languages is damn hard. Probably acquiring Dutch for English native speaker is like filling a tax bill, try Japanese then:) It's really hard. So programming is.
I believe that, in general, this is a good idea. However, the example with an 'ordinary' literacy is not that good. I'd expand the analogy from sesquiped's comment. Think of it as car driving, not car engineering. Billions of people can drive a car (I can't:), but there's still one and only Michael Schumacher. Same here. Maybe some day they'll even start to issue 'computer licenses':) Nothing to worry about for pro's just less plain lamers on the highway. Speed up!:)
I had no idea he was a pilot. This man could reach two major dreams of my life- be a networking specialist and be a pilot. RIP, great man, shine your light upon the coming generations.
Well, I could be blamed for my ignorance, but I have no experience living in a multi-race community. Paraphrasing David Howell's metaphor, I sit on the fence and see those funny people down there throw pieces of sh*t onto each other through the fence. Would anybody stop for a while and tell me what really the problem is? To be honest, I also expected a kind of pessimistic prognosis, not a racial problem. As far as I could get into author's idea, some people can't get 'Net access. He thinks this is because they look different. It sounds doubtful to me. What about people in Europe, mostly white, who can't afford phone/ISP bills and even a cheap PC? I don't think their problem is related to their race. People talking 'Net can't feel safe being ethnocentric and leaving their asbestos suite at home. Computers are like cars. Someone buys a van and drives out for a weekend, someone buys a taxi license and drives for living. Usually as*holes driving those vans make so much fuss. Same things are happening on the net. Damn hordes of ignorant lamers just spoil the bandwidth. And don't talk to me about the speech freedom. 'Net has nothing about that. Want your freedom- go to the streets. Many people moan about it just because this is the only place they can show at anonymously. Freedom is protected on barricades, not in front of your monitor.
The article @ IT director is incorrect. InterBase is currently a part of borland.com, it also had always had a completely standalone team of developers. They started as Groton Database Software and then changed their name to InterBase Software Corp. Some time later they were purchased by Borland. Moreof, IB is availavle in different incarnations: Sun, Muzzdie, NetWare. IB 4 for Linux is free, but comes with no source. Also, it's known that Delphi's Object Pascal compiler is built around C compiler core and diferences between Builder and Delphi are rather cosmetic. Remember, it took very little time for Borland to ship Builder after they sucessfully launched Delphi.
Think about the people who use Delphi and want to move to Linux... They're that 95% (or is it 90?) Well, I'm one of them. But I don't need it at any cost, neither quantitative, nor qualitative. They want a simple way to develop software quickly, and that means RAD tools and big libraries. Yup, I've been there too. 'We need it yesterday, man! Move!' Usually it ends up in fighting fires the last night before deadline and of course it doesn't help and finally the teams needs two more months to fix it.
Really. It looks like another lousy attempt to advert attention to Inprise. 1. Every decent IDE we have under Linux today is configurable to work with almost any existing compiler. Do you need to throw $ 1,500 to the wind to tie yourself to a proprietary thing again? This amount makes a cool amplifier to me. 2. To mean something for the whole Linux community, one needs to span his wings above everyone. Or almost that wide. The vast majority of poll participants are current Windoze developers and they want this or that (language, widget set, wm support etc). How about others? Is Inprise about to conquer Linux or they are just 'porting' developers? 3. Forget about VCL. This Linux, it comes from Unix. Everything you need is already at your finfertips. Probably hiding CreateProcess() behind class method saves typing, but man, execve() is as simple as baby's ass. Keep it simple. 4. Beware. There's a greater part of Unix developers and they have no need to port anything. They have zillions of lines of Hi-End code that works on any hardware and with any widget set. If you only stuck with proprietary tool- they are light years ahead and you loose before you start. I am with Borland since TP 4, don't get me wrong. But that was Borland. Nowadays Inprise has nothing common with that small, brave and innovative company of our early days. It started for me with 4 and is should end up with the same number. Really, Delphi 4 is a bloatware. In general, fashions come and go. People can dream away but it will take very long time for Inprise to come out with anything decent for Linux. If they ever manage to. Selling themselves to M$ wasn't a Good Idea (tm). "But look, 20 developers can't feed 150 'kind of' developers and 200 managers, ya know...."
This definately makes sense to me. But still there are options for everyone. I'll speak for myself.
But imagine what would happen if you don't do C. What if you have done pascal for 10 years and never touched C?
This is what exactly hapened to me. I installed Linux and didn't heared anything about Pascal compilers for Linux at that time. And I said to myself "C'mon Ed, you claim to be a professional, millions of programmers do it in C, are you any worse?" Uhhh, I couldn't swallow my pride:)
In general, nothing matters except of one's will to study. There is Free Pascal, but you can't use it to do X11-programming yet.
Hmmm, I have it isntalled and it has interface units to X libraries, so I doubt it's completely impossible. Main problem is that programming interfaces in Linux (ditto Muzzdie) are C-oriented and purist Pascal coder, as I am, has no chance for success. Either you need assembly, or you must rely upon frameworks or intarface units. This especially takes C pointer operations (functions with variable count of arguments, pointer 'lists' etc).
However it is, most of one's Windoze code is completely useless on Linux- different OS design, paradigms etc. Coder experience is the only thing you can take along to the paradise:)
Sure it is. A crash per day is too much even for statistics:)
On the other hand, Solow Paradox exists. Well, they say it does....
I think this happens because (not to claim to be an expert) the overall productivity is a sum of, at least, two values- 'tool' productivity and 'human' productivity. The first one is growing since Stone Ages, and we haven't reached a limit in improvement of our tools. Technology still has a way to go and a room to play.
In the meantime, psychology and physiology put their limits on productivity. We need to sleep, to eat, to rest etc. And we are still unable to use our brain at 100% of its power. I expect in the nearest future humankind will face previously unknown problems and main efforts will be concentrated on unleashing the power of mind.
Ain't it a kind of treasure? Like previosuly/.'ed prime C compiler sources. Thanks to/. Well.... If anyone out there has pics or links to pics of Enigma, please let me know. You see, I'm not a native speaker and reading this without figures is pretty hard. Also if any kind soul speaking German could spend some time translating terms like Eintrittwalze or Umkehrwalze, I believe, this will help us more than childish flames.
Hmm... Probably I missed something but from my point of view this has nothing to do with Open Source, or arts. Moreof, it brings the OS/freeware idea itself to a disrepute.
First of all, I believe that software programming, design and system architecture and related engineering tasks can and need to be considered an _intellectual_ art. A piece of code itself can be a chez d'oeuvre. And it can be a part of very trivial, even primitive program. To show the beauty you must go Open Source.
Others can join you to publish their artworks, but yours will remain. Think of OS program as an art gallery where different coders put their masterpieces on display. Every piece of code is 'signed' by its creator, you always know, who wrote this, you can address the author.
Given examples from 'real' art life cast a shadow on the free software community. There's no place for plagiatrists among us. People who lack talent, put together excerpts from others' artworks and call this contemporary art.... I call this theft- when I buy a book, I want to read a new one, not the compilation of more or less known novels. They hack paysites, put materials on freesites and say this is new art and this is what computers are made for. Some people here were concerned about Mitnick, where are you now, hellooooo???...
However, one example made me smile- about Lolita. I think of Nabokov's one as a server and protocol specs, whereas Lia Perri's (sp?) work (she writes about the same but from Lolita's point of view), is like a client part. Or vice versa?:)
Could you possibly imagine anything more annoying then software that updates itself with out telling you?
As the matter of fact, what Ballmer is talking about is already.... a fact. Eg, M$ SQL Server 7 License agreement states that 'Software' remains the property of M$ and users are granted to use it but they don't own it. However, you still need to patch it manually:) Horrible dictu what will happen when M$ will patch their own stuff.
What are we supposed to rent? Small utilities? C'mon, they are free. Large professional packages? Professionals already got them. If someone has no- probably he's not that much professional. Again, imagine dloading 3D Studio....
I have always been in doubts about M$ abilities to produce decent software. But what happens makes me thinking even worse about their marketing talents.
1. It's assumed that everyone is extremely proficient with the doors. I bet you'd be surprised by the count of simple enough ways to crack the whole-metal, patended lock and all-that door you consider absolutely invulnerable. 'Real-world' criminals spend years studying constructions of doors and locks. 2. Of course it's essential for such an effort to ask the 'door' owner in advance or at least to provide them with test results. However, I didn't find anything stating that this hasn't been done. Obviously, they can't put the whole list online but after this article is published one can address them for security audit log, I believe. Of course one needs to prove his rights
What about the brilliant student who fell 1 point behind and had to settle for a 3-tier university?
Brilliant stdent won't miss a point. Otherwise he's not that brilliant.
You know what I see? I see jealous Europeans on their high-horses out-gunned by cowboy Americans who dropped out of school to follow their dreams and scored big time.
I see no cowboys around here. Should I pick a microscope?
Europeans still view themselves as better than everyone else.
Well, not being a cowboy, I'd stop this thread. You are listening only to yourself. I never said Europeans are better, I said we are different. Your screams are neither informative, nor they make any sense to me. You make me yawn. Buh-bye, Mr Cowboy. When you grow up, we'll meet again. Probably....
PS And yes, before you take your gun out, would you please, get your visor up? Being AC ain't any good if you intend to flame the whole continent just because you missed a point on exams.
I wonder why those fine guys from debian, or redhat, or suse, or whatever linux distribution dont start doing their distros based on the freebsd
As to me, I wonder, where is _your_ distro? And probably you can show us the lines in kernel written by you? Or any of your lines? I think you should have expected such replies- just wondering whether you have a joker in a sleeve, kinda you are a lead developer for M$:)
Thanks for you post. Although I completely disagree with you, I liked it. Just because it discovers the difference and gives a chance to find its roots for better understanding in the future. It's wonderful to see how different people, reading the same text, tend to emphasize different things. In general, ordinary Europeans, Asians and even many of us, former Soviets, believe in reputation. Money won't buy you the name. One can be enormously rich but noone will say that he is a nice, kind and respectable person. Many people still believe that having just alot of money is a start- not the end. Why do they think so? Because they know that money is an extremely powerful tool. The one having extra funds stops surviving and begins bringing his dreams to reality. This person becomes a creator and changes the world we live in. What are his dreams, are they light, nice and kind? Or they are weird, cruel and mean? This is where upbringing acts as a regulator of vertical mobility. Ignorant, wild person doesn't deserve to posess the power of money. Ability to achieve a classical higher education (I mean Education, not just a set of technical facts) is a filter that makes moving up harder. On the other hand, there should be nothing that stops us from falling down. Nothing except our knowledge and reputation. People acquire knowledge while they are studying. Knowledge as understanding of things. This helps them later to gain their reputation and make their money to serve themselves and the community. If this is not achieved, money flows to people with dirty hands and minds, like in many places here. We are tired of their power.....
"All empires colapse at some point, either because they get to big for those in power to maintain control, or because they are too big and slow to deal with a rapidilly changing situation. This is exactly what will happen to MS."
Yes, they really do. But never before a collapse of an empire led to happiness, prosperity and peace. Every such crash leads to chaos, civil war and complete deteroriation of the heritage of previous generations.
Believe me, I know what it's all about. In 1917 Zarist Russia, 'jail for nations', was wiped off the map by hordes of semi-literate workers guided by the group of very smart people.
Recently SU, 'evil empire', cracked into 15 banana republics, some of them governed by people who had never attended a colledge, and one even having a foreign citizen as president (sic!)
The way M$ operates is really far from perfect. But IMHO this not the point, however. I even don't care whether DOJ finds them guilty- actually this won't change anything because everyone understands that crushing M$ today will cause a big worldwide collapse: OEMs will loose their Wintel customers, users and businesses will wake up and find their IT investments turned into sand, exchanges trying to hold the fever, agonizing dollar. Demonstrations, anarchy, suicides. No sane judge will make any hard decision on M$ now.
The one and only reason is that there's no power able not only to crush M$ and enjoy its market position but to support everyone that relies upon M$ now. There are foundations, commercial and non-profit, that have good enough potential to make a competition to M$, but noone has enough power to _take M$ place_ (as opposed to just kill the beast)
All of my kingdoms turned to silence And fall into the sea I'm mad about you I'm lost without you
And since when US is entitled to judge the world? Albanians you are talking about were citizens of Yugoslavia. They were granted the right to live in Serbia, on the land which is the land of origin of _Serbian_ nation. What they wanted is a threat to the territorial consistency of a self-governed nation- Yugoslavia. And no other state has the right to use military force without UNO SC resolution. Having all that said, can you agree that US govt is subject to be accused for military crime, same as Hitler or KLA? And oh please, don't treat me as a plain moron. It's obvious even to a 10 yr old kid what US wants and why they needed Kosovo. How neat it was to turn a significant part of Europe into a moon landscape with hands of Europeans!:( And to train the army. And to get rid of all the old crap filling USAF hangars. But they shouldn't have bombed PRC embassy, really... However, it's getting too much off-topic. Let's stop it or turn into private.
_You_ gave _your_ govt that right. Noone at Serbia gave your any govt right for intervention and intrusion into their domestic affairs. _Your_ govt used military power without UNO resolution. Search USA Today Archives and you'll (probably, if it's not censored out) find a report about B.C. announcing a 'cracker war' against Yugoslavia. Again, if you're US govt 'buddy', you can crack, kill, whatever. Otherwise, you will be caught and punished. And K.M. is not an idiot, in no way. Idiots are sysadmins of companies he cracked. They are damn lamers who don't deserve the right to be called even computer literate. Except those of them who now raise their voices in protection of K.M. Because he is better than they and the only thing that can save them from eternal lamery is to ask K.M. to _teach_ them. Ditto security officers. Damn this guy spent $100 to screw them up on millions! I always thought treasures _must_ be protected better!
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I hate to say this, but your rate on Marxist-Leninist ideology is 'non-satisfactory' (the lowest BTW and you have to :) :)
pass the exam again
1. Niether communism, nor capitalism are _ideologies_. They are political formations.
2. Marx builds his theory on definitions on property _and_ labor. In other words if you are using neighbours program
without his permission, you still violate the law, because you use fruits of his labor.
3. Computer hardware still remains basic mean of production and in 'proletarian state' it could be available, although
not to everyone and through govt regulations, whereas OSS doesn't provide the movement with hardware of any kind.
(Sometimes I regret there's no national/global body issuing computer licenses- some kiddies are fscking annoying
But I completely agree with you that we can not compare political formations with
movements and initiatives of any kind.
Really, seems like Mr. Barbrook has just picked up a couple of phrases here and several words there.... /. I don't idealize it, in no way....
1. SU has never had a priority goal in IT/CS. There were '3 whales': ideology, military strength and space program. Everything that could help 'the whales', was blessed by the govt.
And certainly we were good at it. Just compare how many SU cosmonauts and US astronauts have _actually_ been to space. Technical education in SU was rather classical
and based on heavy math. These days mathematicians from different defsnse and space program help out with poor COBOL design to fix
Y2K in software produced in US and used there and sold to Russia. Soviet nuclear weaponry doesn't suffer from this problem.
2. R.B. insists that US weapons are unbeatable and all that. There's no such a weapon by definition. Also, this depends too much on
the hand that pushes the button. And he could pay more attention to 'independent' press on Kosovo massacre held out by NATO. I mean
media in countries not directly involved in the conflict (Asia, Africa, there's the whole world around us, really)
3. This part I 'loved' the most and couldn't get past it: "Managers and other professionals".... Oh boy....
Please, get me right. I grown up in SU and know about it probably more than anyone other in
What if OS were air companies.... UNIX: Crew and passengers sit on runway to form the silhouette of an airplane,
after pilot's command they run woeing and take off....
Interesting is that both minimalists and GUIsts are right. What's missed IMHO is that UNIX-like OSs
provide a unique possiblilty to build extremely customizable thin-IDEs with all whiz-bang features.
Do developers need project/object/thisject/thatject browsers? Yes. Intergated debugging? Sure. Syntax highlight? We can't live without it
But most of the job is already done: grep, make, diff, perl etc etc. Just put them together and feed the output to a
(relatively) simple editor.
Moreof, most of nowadays Linux IDEs bring up a new set of reuirements. The most important of them is that IDEs should be
configurable to work with almost any compiler/debugger available. This is True Linux Spirit, unlike what Inprise is trying to push through.
And for those who care: RHIDE still rocks. I use it daily and it's great. Good news is that as long as Borland TC/TP code is public domain now, RHIDE editor C++ source is now available.
Well, I just doubt that people who can't :(
understand 'Space Odyssey...' are all that
intelligent. Sir A. Clarke's novel was written
about us and for us. Most of his predictions
became true.
Apparently he was rating our intelligence too
high when writing his '2000'. Damn it's like
that crappy Romeo and Juliet movie.
This will be really a pisser if mainstream movie industry turns a chez d'oeuvre into another piece of crap
I don't know about you but I couldn't force :)
myself to read further beyond "WordPerfect and
other word processors are called 'client'
applications...."
Completely incompetent article. Everything is
messed up- terminology, basics.
This reminded me reading an article in our local newspaper about
NATO missiles misguided by 'Russian hackers' for they (missiles) have memory divided in
two parts: "the LEFT PART OF MEMORY contains target coordinates whereas the right one
holds the pic of the target" and missile is looking at the pic not to hit something else
I think moderators are good at putting down
noisy things like 'Fsck BG/LT'or 'First Post'.
However, I was unable to find a comment that
impressed me too much to deserve 3 or 4. IMHO.
Probably, this is a problem of a non-native
speaker, but I used to think 'Insightful' means
something that sheds a light on something previously unkonwn or obscure.
Rather than just saying 'grey could turn into white if you raise RGB to 255 each'
Again, this is just IMHO, no intent to offend anyone.
BTW, some 'random' articles appeared duplicated, that's why I didn't vote. Is this a problem with my Lynx?
Well, I think that you slightly missed the point. Noone is going :)
to teach programming. They want to teach younger students to 'read and
understand' a simple code and make minor improvements to it.
This is more real to achieve and more usefull. Behaviour of today's programs is defined by three parts: code,
user input and configuration files. Think of configuration files as (Python?) scripts and imagine end
users able not only pushing buttons but also to fine-tune a program to meet their needs by editing a (relatively) simple
script. Something like this we already have in *nix: shell interpreters with redirection and pipes.
Of course, users familiar with Python or whatever programming language will find themselves _empowered_ by pipes and redirection, not confused like click-o-rama addicts. And this will make life for us. programmers, much easier.
BTW, learnign foreign languages is damn hard. Probably acquiring Dutch for English native speaker is like filling a tax bill, try Japanese then
It's really hard. So programming is.
I believe that, in general, this is a good idea. :), but there's still one and only :) Nothing to worry about for pro's :)
However, the example with an 'ordinary' literacy
is not that good. I'd expand the analogy from
sesquiped's comment. Think of it as car driving,
not car engineering. Billions of people can drive
a car (I can't
Michael Schumacher.
Same here. Maybe some day they'll even start to
issue 'computer licenses'
just less plain lamers on the highway. Speed up!
I had no idea he was a pilot. This man could
reach two major dreams of my life- be a networking
specialist and be a pilot.
RIP, great man, shine your light upon the
coming generations.
Well, I could be blamed for my ignorance, but I have no experience living in a multi-race community. Paraphrasing David Howell's metaphor, I sit on the fence and see those funny people down there throw pieces of sh*t onto each other through the fence.
Would anybody stop for a while and tell me what really the problem is? To be honest, I also expected a kind of pessimistic prognosis, not a racial problem.
As far as I could get into author's idea, some people can't get 'Net access. He thinks this is because they look different. It sounds doubtful to me. What about people in Europe, mostly white, who can't afford phone/ISP bills and even a cheap PC? I don't think their problem is related to their race. People talking 'Net can't feel safe being ethnocentric and leaving their asbestos suite at home.
Computers are like cars. Someone buys a van and drives out for a weekend, someone buys a taxi license and drives for living. Usually as*holes driving those vans make so much fuss. Same things are happening on the net. Damn hordes of ignorant lamers just spoil the bandwidth.
And don't talk to me about the speech freedom. 'Net has nothing about that. Want your freedom- go to the streets. Many people moan about it just because this is the only place they can show at anonymously. Freedom is protected on barricades, not in front of your monitor.
The article @ IT director is incorrect. InterBase is currently a part of borland.com, it also had always had a completely standalone team of developers. They started as Groton Database Software and then changed their name to InterBase Software Corp. Some time later they were purchased by Borland.
Moreof, IB is availavle in different incarnations: Sun, Muzzdie, NetWare. IB 4 for Linux is free, but comes with no source.
Also, it's known that Delphi's Object Pascal compiler is built around C compiler core and diferences between Builder and Delphi are rather cosmetic. Remember, it took very little time for Borland to ship Builder after they sucessfully launched Delphi.
Think about the people who use Delphi and want to move to Linux... They're that 95% (or is it 90?)
Well, I'm one of them. But I don't need it at any cost, neither quantitative, nor qualitative. They want a simple way to develop software quickly, and that means RAD tools and big libraries.
Yup, I've been there too. 'We need it yesterday, man! Move!' Usually it ends up in fighting fires the last night before deadline and of course it doesn't help and finally the teams needs two more months to fix it.
Really. It looks like another lousy attempt to advert attention to Inprise.
1. Every decent IDE we have under Linux today is configurable to work with almost any existing compiler. Do you need to throw $ 1,500 to the wind to tie yourself to a proprietary thing again? This amount makes a cool amplifier to me.
2. To mean something for the whole Linux community, one needs to span his wings above everyone. Or almost that wide. The vast majority of poll participants are current Windoze developers and they want this or that (language, widget set, wm support etc). How about others? Is Inprise about to conquer Linux or they are just 'porting' developers?
3. Forget about VCL. This Linux, it comes from Unix. Everything you need is already at your finfertips. Probably hiding CreateProcess() behind class method saves typing, but man, execve() is as simple as baby's ass. Keep it simple.
4. Beware. There's a greater part of Unix developers and they have no need to port anything. They have zillions of lines of Hi-End code that works on any hardware and with any widget set. If you only stuck with proprietary tool- they are light years ahead and you loose before you start.
I am with Borland since TP 4, don't get me wrong. But that was Borland. Nowadays Inprise has nothing common with that small, brave and innovative company of our early days. It started for me with 4 and is should end up with the same number. Really, Delphi 4 is a bloatware.
In general, fashions come and go. People can dream away but it will take very long time for Inprise to come out with anything decent for Linux. If they ever manage to. Selling themselves to M$ wasn't a Good Idea (tm). "But look, 20 developers can't feed 150 'kind of' developers and 200 managers, ya know...."
This definately makes sense to me. But still there are options for everyone. I'll speak for myself.
:)
:)
But imagine what would happen if you don't do C. What if you have done pascal for 10 years
and never touched C?
This is what exactly hapened to me. I installed Linux and didn't heared anything about Pascal compilers for Linux at that time. And I said to myself "C'mon Ed, you claim to be a professional, millions of programmers do it in C, are you any worse?" Uhhh, I couldn't swallow my pride
In general, nothing matters except of one's will to study.
There is Free Pascal, but you
can't use it to do X11-programming yet.
Hmmm, I have it isntalled and it has interface units to X libraries, so I doubt it's completely impossible. Main problem is that programming interfaces in Linux (ditto Muzzdie) are C-oriented and purist Pascal coder, as I am, has no chance for success. Either you need assembly, or you must rely upon frameworks or intarface units. This especially takes C pointer operations (functions with variable count of arguments, pointer 'lists' etc).
However it is, most of one's Windoze code is completely useless on Linux- different OS design, paradigms etc. Coder experience is the only thing you can take along to the paradise
Sure it is. A crash per day is too much even for statistics :)
On the other hand, Solow Paradox exists. Well, they say it does....
I think this happens because (not to claim to be an expert) the overall productivity is a sum of, at least, two values- 'tool' productivity and 'human' productivity. The first one is growing since Stone Ages, and we haven't reached a limit in improvement of our tools. Technology still has a way to go and a room to play.
In the meantime, psychology and physiology put their limits on productivity. We need to sleep, to eat, to rest etc. And we are still unable to use our brain at 100% of its power. I expect in the nearest future humankind will face previously unknown problems and main efforts will be concentrated on unleashing the power of mind.
Just IMHO....
Ain't it a kind of treasure? Like previosuly /.'ed prime C compiler sources. Thanks to /.
Well.... If anyone out there has pics or links to pics of Enigma, please let me know. You see, I'm not a native speaker and reading this without figures is pretty hard. Also if any kind soul speaking German could spend some time translating terms like Eintrittwalze or Umkehrwalze, I believe, this will help us more than childish flames.
TIA
First of all, I believe that software programming, design and system architecture and related engineering tasks can and need to be considered an _intellectual_ art. A piece of code itself can be a chez d'oeuvre. And it can be a part of very trivial, even primitive program. To show the beauty you must go Open Source.
Others can join you to publish their artworks, but yours will remain. Think of OS program as an art gallery where different coders put their masterpieces on display. Every piece of code is 'signed' by its creator, you always know, who wrote this, you can address the author.
Given examples from 'real' art life cast a shadow on the free software community. There's no place for plagiatrists among us. People who lack talent, put together excerpts from others' artworks and call this contemporary art.... I call this theft- when I buy a book, I want to read a new one, not the compilation of more or less known novels. They hack paysites, put materials on freesites and say this is new art and this is what computers are made for. Some people here were concerned about Mitnick, where are you now, hellooooo???...
However, one example made me smile- about Lolita. I think of Nabokov's one as a server and protocol specs, whereas Lia Perri's (sp?) work (she writes about the same but from Lolita's point of view), is like a client part. Or vice versa?
Pls forgive the spelling- it's 2 am. Still.....
Could you possibly imagine anything more annoying then software
that updates itself with out telling you?
As the matter of fact, what Ballmer is talking about is already.... a fact. Eg, M$ SQL Server 7 License agreement states that 'Software' remains the property of M$ and users are granted to use it but they don't own it. However, you still need to patch it manually
What are we supposed to rent? Small utilities? C'mon, they are free. Large professional packages? Professionals already got them. If someone has no- probably he's not that much professional. Again, imagine dloading 3D Studio....
I have always been in doubts about M$ abilities to produce decent software. But what happens makes me thinking even worse about their marketing talents.
I'd 1/3 agree with both of the above posts:
1. It's assumed that everyone is extremely proficient with the doors. I bet you'd be surprised by the count of simple enough ways to crack the whole-metal, patended lock and all-that door you consider absolutely invulnerable. 'Real-world' criminals spend years studying constructions of doors and locks.
2. Of course it's essential for such an effort to ask the 'door' owner in advance or at least to provide them with test results. However, I didn't find anything stating that this hasn't been done. Obviously, they can't put the whole list online but after this article is published one can address them for security audit log, I believe. Of course one needs to prove his rights
What about
the brilliant student who fell 1 point
behind and had to settle for a 3-tier university?
Brilliant stdent won't miss a point. Otherwise he's not that brilliant.
You know what I see? I see jealous Europeans on their high-horses out-gunned by cowboy
Americans who dropped out of school to follow their dreams and scored big time.
I see no cowboys around here. Should I pick a microscope?
Europeans still view themselves as better than everyone else.
Well, not being a cowboy, I'd stop this thread. You are listening only to yourself. I never said Europeans are better, I said we are different.
Your screams are neither informative, nor they make any sense to me. You make me yawn.
Buh-bye, Mr Cowboy. When you grow up, we'll meet again. Probably....
PS And yes, before you take your gun out, would you please, get your visor up? Being AC ain't any good if you intend to flame the whole continent just because you missed a point on exams.
Hey, hey, hold the horses, man :)
:)
I wonder why those fine guys from debian, or redhat, or suse, or whatever linux
distribution dont start doing their distros based on the freebsd
As to me, I wonder, where is _your_ distro? And probably you can show us the lines in kernel written by you? Or any of your lines?
I think you should have expected such replies- just wondering whether you have a joker in a sleeve, kinda you are a lead developer for M$
AC,
Thanks for you post. Although I completely disagree with you, I liked it. Just because it discovers the difference and gives a chance to find its roots for better understanding in the future.
It's wonderful to see how different people, reading the same text, tend to emphasize different things.
In general, ordinary Europeans, Asians and even many of us, former Soviets, believe in reputation. Money won't buy you the name. One can be enormously rich but noone will say that he is a nice, kind and respectable person.
Many people still believe that having just alot of money is a start- not the end. Why do they think so? Because they know that money is an extremely powerful tool. The one having extra funds stops surviving and begins bringing his dreams to reality. This person becomes a creator and changes the world we live in. What are his dreams, are they light, nice and kind? Or they are weird, cruel and mean?
This is where upbringing acts as a regulator of vertical mobility. Ignorant, wild person doesn't deserve to posess the power of money. Ability to achieve a classical higher education (I mean Education, not just a set of technical facts) is a filter that makes moving up harder. On the other hand, there should be nothing that stops us from falling down. Nothing except our knowledge and reputation.
People acquire knowledge while they are studying. Knowledge as understanding of things. This helps them later to gain their reputation and make their money to serve themselves and the community.
If this is not achieved, money flows to people with dirty hands and minds, like in many places here. We are tired of their power.....
Yes, they really do. But never before a collapse of an empire led to happiness, prosperity and peace. Every such crash leads to chaos, civil war and complete deteroriation of the heritage of previous generations.
Believe me, I know what it's all about. In 1917 Zarist Russia, 'jail for nations', was wiped off the map by hordes of semi-literate workers guided by the group of very smart people.
Recently SU, 'evil empire', cracked into 15 banana republics, some of them governed by people who had never attended a colledge, and one even having a foreign citizen as president (sic!)
The way M$ operates is really far from perfect. But IMHO this not the point, however. I even don't care whether DOJ finds them guilty- actually this won't change anything because everyone understands that crushing M$ today will cause a big worldwide collapse: OEMs will loose their Wintel customers, users and businesses will wake up and find their IT investments turned into sand, exchanges trying to hold the fever, agonizing dollar. Demonstrations, anarchy, suicides. No sane judge will make any hard decision on M$ now.
The one and only reason is that there's no power able not only to crush M$ and enjoy its market position but to support everyone that relies upon M$ now. There are foundations, commercial and non-profit, that have good enough potential to make a competition to M$, but noone has enough power to _take M$ place_ (as opposed to just kill the beast)
All of my kingdoms turned to silence
And fall into the sea
I'm mad about you
I'm lost without you
Sting
And since when US is entitled to judge the world? Albanians you are talking about were citizens of Yugoslavia. They were granted the right to live in Serbia, on the land which is the land of origin of _Serbian_ nation. What they wanted is a threat to the territorial consistency of a self-governed nation- Yugoslavia. And no other state has the right to use military force without UNO SC resolution. Having all that said, can you agree that US govt is subject to be accused for military crime, same as Hitler or KLA? :( And to train the army. And to get rid of all the old crap filling USAF hangars.
And oh please, don't treat me as a plain moron. It's obvious even to a 10 yr old kid what US wants and why they needed Kosovo. How neat it was to turn a significant part of Europe into a moon landscape with hands of Europeans!
But they shouldn't have bombed PRC embassy, really...
However, it's getting too much off-topic. Let's stop it or turn into private.
_You_ gave _your_ govt that right. Noone at Serbia gave your any govt right for intervention and intrusion into their domestic affairs.
_Your_ govt used military power without UNO resolution.
Search USA Today Archives and you'll (probably, if it's not censored out) find a report about B.C. announcing a 'cracker war' against Yugoslavia.
Again, if you're US govt 'buddy', you can crack, kill, whatever. Otherwise, you will be caught and punished.
And K.M. is not an idiot, in no way. Idiots are sysadmins of companies he cracked. They are damn lamers who don't deserve the right to be called even computer literate.
Except those of them who now raise their voices in protection of K.M. Because he is better than they and the only thing that can save them from eternal lamery is to ask K.M. to _teach_ them. Ditto security officers.
Damn this guy spent $100 to screw them up on millions! I always thought treasures _must_ be protected better!