I think you missed the point of the previous post.. The poster seemed to be suggesting that the Palm OS be ported to the GameBoy, rather than trying to port games to the Palm.. If this thing's quicker, and can accept expansion modules, then it could make a pretty slick PDA..
IBM still makes all the G3 processors used in the iBooks and iMacs. Motorola hasn't liscensed the Altivec stuff to IBM yet.. I'll be surprised if IBM isn't building G4's shortly..
The only thing I can think of that might cause problems when moving between your local machine and the school's machine are the paths set-up to access data.. To verify the rest, just take a look at the toolboxes included in the two copies.. (I'm not sure what the cmd is, but I'm sure there is one..)
I defended my PhD thesis proposal yesterday, and two minutes after I finished my presentation, my advisor's phone rang.. If it had gone off during my talk I probably would've thrown him through the third floor window!!!
Seriously, I was given a TV a few years ago by my parents who thought I was missing out on something.. I still haven't plugged the thing in yet.. For the last three semesters, I've lent it to a couple foreign students who couldn't justify buying one..
Besides, it's a lot more fun flirting with the girl at the video store than actually watching the movie..:-)
iTunes has already been carbonized, and is available on your iDisk! It apparently works better than it does on OS 9, which isn't suprising given that the MP3 player included with the public beta was pretty slick..
There is roughly 120MB of printer drivers included in the later betas. This includes printer drivers for USB printers from HP, Canon, and Epson. There are also a couple folders for PPDs and PPD plugins, which are currently empty. Don't worry about printing, that will definitely be ready to go..
I use iCab (Mac), which contains a very nice little image filter..
Adding: SRC contains: "http://images.slashdot.org/banner/" to the images filter gets rid of all the/. banner ads.. I also filter images of a variety of sizes (if it looks like a banner, filter it!)
Best of all, pages load considerably quicker when you don't have to wait for the banners..
Couple this with the guts to a Motorola cell phone, then forge a little deal with DoubleCLick, the US Census data, and the Cellular telcos, and POW! The ultimate in customized advertising.. Hmmm, you've got a lot of nice stereo equipment, but you live in a rough neighborhood, I think maybe we should start streaming ads for home security products.. Good stuff..
No explanation why anyone should believe you are correct. Who's the troll here?
Correct on which account? That the continuing work on BSD is beneficial, that you're spouting a very narrow minded, "Linux is the answer to everything!", view of the world, or that your an OSI board member?
The OSI board member is on your page: http://www.russnelson.com/ in the post header. The narrow minded comment is an opinion. As far as I know, there is currently no way to quantitative means to measure the extent of one's open or close mindedness. So I guess you must be referring to the issue of whether this is a good thing or not..
The way I see it, NetBSD (or any OS), has just a much right to the developer, and user, pool as Linux. If a couple NetBSD developers decided to port an OS that they use, and feel comfortable / productive with, then how can this be a bad thing? I wonder how useful linux, or *BSD, will be on a PDA, but that's not really the issue here is it? Nope, I'm assuming you're upset about the liscensing issues of BSD, or maybe you're just too blind to realize that linux is not always the best choice... I know that's akin to heresy around these parts, so I'll wrap this up, but before I go, do us all a big favor and grow up!
By the way.. I doubt there'd be a whole lot of disagreement among the readers if I reiterated my earlier assertion that YOU are the TROLL!
YES, it's a good thing!.. Now back under the F#$%ing bridge where you belong..
I know you're a narrow minded TROLL, and I'm sure after reading this note, that everyone else will see that as well.. However, I'm not sure how many people realize that this particular TROLL is an Open Source Initiative Board Member...
Can OS X run headless and lightweight like NetBSD and PPC Linux?
Sure.. But you'd be better off running Darwin, if you want to set up a G3 machine as a firewall or router.. There's no need to install, or fire up Quartz.
At first glance, I thought you were asking what the remote display capabilities of OS X were.. To that I can only answer that NeXT had remote display capabilities, and streaming vector data back and forth to update the local window would ROCK..
Anyway, you can use pre-iMac PPC Macs for useful stuff with Linux, and they won't ever be supported for OS X.
Yep.. I still have a couple pre-G3 machines around here.. We use one as a file server with a slimmed down version of Mac OS 8.1.. We use one as an FTP server and CD Burner (It's great, there's about 10 accounts, and enough space that we can each upload a CD's worth of data.. It's also a nice place to temporarily back-up critical files).. Then we have a couple little 68k boxes that we run NetBSD on as firewalls. Linux and the BSD family will have plenty of boxes to run on..
Both Classic and X-Windows should not be running side by side in Aqua, but each contained within it's own single window, so the different environments with their different ways of doing things are kept separate, making life easier on the user.
I agree that X11 and Classic apps need to be separated from the Carbon and Cocoa apps.. BUT, I have a hunch that X11 is not going to be extremely popular outside the scientific, and geek, communities.. My mom isn't going to install XFree86 and Gimp, when she can grab a Carbon version of GraphicsConverter..
For the science crowd out there, this is actually a big step forward. I can now work on building Data Explorer, SciLab, etc. without switching back and forth between Aqua and X..
First, let me say that I agree that LinuxPPC, YellowDog, Suse PPC, Debian PPC, FreeBSD on PPC, NetBSD, OpenBSD on PPC, etc. are all excellent projects.. Some will be used more than others, but so what?..
As far as the OS X on an original iMac.. It will work, and quite well actually.. The iMac will need some more RAM (a 128MB chip is like $50 right now), and Classic will be about 90% of it's stand-alone speed, but that's not bad.. I've seen OS X 4K46 on a PowerBook G3/266 with 256MB of RAM and it wasn't bad at all..
I'm not sure you realize this, but it sounds like a lot of the fluffy effects will be turned off when OS X is installed on a G3 machine.. For example; Launching an App on a G4 results in a little app that bounces in the dock while the App loads. On a G3, the icon appears in the dock, and a small triangle beneath it flashes while the App loads.. This is just one little example.. I'm sure that hacks will begin appearing around March 25th, that allow you to turn off the drop shadows or square up the corners of the windows (both will save a few cycles)..
I notice that a lot of the machines in this cluster are very old.. A couple grad students, and faculty members having been kicking around the idea of a cluster for our work (fluid dynamics research) for a while.. we discussed using recycled pentiums from the undergraduate computer labs, but when you sit down and work out the math, you find that it's much more effective to buy 8 fast AMD boxes, than it is to monkey around with 32 old pentiums.. And that's probably being generous on the ratios.. I'm guessing, you'd need 8 - 10 90-166MHz pentiums (assuming linear scaling) to match each of the 1GHz AMD boxes.. Sure the AMDs cost $600-$800 a pop, but the install is a snap, and we only need a 8-16 port switch, and 8 cables.. The cabling and switches for the machine above must be a pain in the ass..
When the "I Love You" hit I remember hearing a lot of mumbling about, users of Macs, Linux, BeOS, etc. being immune to.vbs worms.. Yep.. Sure, but the best part about worms like this current worm, and the I Love You virus, is that they're social worms.
To prove this. I wrote a little Applescript, compiled it into an App, altered the icon so it appeared to be a harmless photoshop.jpeg, then wrapped it up in a self-expanding stuff-it archive, and mailed it to a friend who had been ridiculing the 'dumb' windows crowd.. He immediately popped open the archive, and double clicked the harmless little icon.. You should've seen the look on his face, when a little window popped up on his screen with the sender info for every item in his Eudora inbox
if I were more malicious I would've let the Applescript install itself in the start-up items folder, then instruct photoshop (or even better would have been picture viewer) to display a simple image, while I parsed the Eudora's.mail files for the various info.. And you guys all thought the 'Summarize to Clipboard' was a useless feature.. Just wait until an Applescript for OS X shows up that runs as a background App, sumarizes the contents of the last note received from each unique address, and mails itself to the sender as a smart reply, as a *.gz, a *.pkg, or a stuff-it archive..
Motoboard??? Check out the F$%*ing MotoSK8!! A 22.5cc 2-stroke engine bolted to the back end of a roller blade, producing a top speed of 25+mph.. Damn!
Call me a crank, but the last thing I want is Joe Idiot cruising through the park on one of these things. Bicycles, roller blades, etc. are fine because they're relatively quiet. A 2.5Hp engine is not quiet (not without a bit of work)..
With that said.. I've always wanted to put together a hubless recumbent touring bike.. So, while I really don't like the idea of another humming nuisance, I do like the overall design of this thing..
The Police already have this... There is a collection of papers by Sirovich at Brown University, where a technique called the snapshot Proper Orthogonal Decomposition (POD) was used to construct an optimal basis set for the characterization of human facial features. I believe the work began with an idea to improve the ability of law enforcement agencies to find missing children, or some such noble cause.. However, there's absolutely no reason the same tools couldn't be used to classify the face, fingerprint, etc. for every one without an excessive amount of data..
The general idea is this.. You develop a general set of basis functions that spans the possible range of features found in your population. Then you capture images of each person, as they walk through a surprisingly well lit, blue screen interiored, "metal detector" at the airport, high school, DMV, etc... You then project the basis set onto each image (read: project a fourier mode onto a time signal) to obtain a discrete set of random scalar coefficients for each person.. Throw the scalars at a large database, with very fast search capabilities, cross-reference that database with the airline records, INS (passports), High School databases (think yearbook photos), and there's no reason to believe that everyone couldn't be recorded / indexed/tracked...
Just another happy little thought..
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First make all students who want to use the internet sign an agreement
The only reason I submited this article, was to counter the "PPC is nice tech, but where can I get it other than Apple" comments.. The point here is not the size, or shape of this board. The point is that someone other than Apple is shipping a PPC machine.. I realize there are a lot of good, small x86 boards out there..
In all honesty, I don't think a $2500 box with a single G4 processor, a 10/100 adapter, and a 40GB HDD is worth the cash.. Especially, not when I can get a Dual G4 box from Apple for considerably less.. Hell, even the cube is cheaper, and it ships with a DVD
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I think you missed the point of the previous post.. The poster seemed to be suggesting that the Palm OS be ported to the GameBoy, rather than trying to port games to the Palm.. If this thing's quicker, and can accept expansion modules, then it could make a pretty slick PDA..
WRONG!
IBM still makes all the G3 processors used in the iBooks and iMacs. Motorola hasn't liscensed the Altivec stuff to IBM yet.. I'll be surprised if IBM isn't building G4's shortly..
The only thing I can think of that might cause problems when moving between your local machine and the school's machine are the paths set-up to access data.. To verify the rest, just take a look at the toolboxes included in the two copies.. (I'm not sure what the cmd is, but I'm sure there is one..)
Which article?
I defended my PhD thesis proposal yesterday, and two minutes after I finished my presentation, my advisor's phone rang.. If it had gone off during my talk I probably would've thrown him through the third floor window!!!
Heretic! Burn 'im at the stake!!
Seriously, I was given a TV a few years ago by my parents who thought I was missing out on something.. I still haven't plugged the thing in yet.. For the last three semesters, I've lent it to a couple foreign students who couldn't justify buying one..
Besides, it's a lot more fun flirting with the girl at the video store than actually watching the movie.. :-)
http://slashdot.org/articles/00/06/11/145227.shtml ... LinuxPPC boots on a Power4 -- June 11, 2000..
iTunes has already been carbonized, and is available on your iDisk! It apparently works better than it does on OS 9, which isn't suprising given that the MP3 player included with the public beta was pretty slick..
With Jobs at the helm? I doubt it!
There is roughly 120MB of printer drivers included in the later betas. This includes printer drivers for USB printers from HP, Canon, and Epson. There are also a couple folders for PPDs and PPD plugins, which are currently empty. Don't worry about printing, that will definitely be ready to go..
I use iCab (Mac), which contains a very nice little image filter..
Adding: SRC contains: "http://images.slashdot.org/banner/" to the images filter gets rid of all the /. banner ads.. I also filter images of a variety of sizes (if it looks like a banner, filter it!)
Best of all, pages load considerably quicker when you don't have to wait for the banners..
Couple this with the guts to a Motorola cell phone, then forge a little deal with DoubleCLick, the US Census data, and the Cellular telcos, and POW! The ultimate in customized advertising.. Hmmm, you've got a lot of nice stereo equipment, but you live in a rough neighborhood, I think maybe we should start streaming ads for home security products.. Good stuff..
No explanation why anyone should believe you are correct. Who's the troll here?
Correct on which account? That the continuing work on BSD is beneficial, that you're spouting a very narrow minded, "Linux is the answer to everything!", view of the world, or that your an OSI board member?
The OSI board member is on your page: http://www.russnelson.com/ in the post header. The narrow minded comment is an opinion. As far as I know, there is currently no way to quantitative means to measure the extent of one's open or close mindedness. So I guess you must be referring to the issue of whether this is a good thing or not..
The way I see it, NetBSD (or any OS), has just a much right to the developer, and user, pool as Linux. If a couple NetBSD developers decided to port an OS that they use, and feel comfortable / productive with, then how can this be a bad thing? I wonder how useful linux, or *BSD, will be on a PDA, but that's not really the issue here is it? Nope, I'm assuming you're upset about the liscensing issues of BSD, or maybe you're just too blind to realize that linux is not always the best choice... I know that's akin to heresy around these parts, so I'll wrap this up, but before I go, do us all a big favor and grow up!
By the way.. I doubt there'd be a whole lot of disagreement among the readers if I reiterated my earlier assertion that YOU are the TROLL!
YES, it's a good thing!.. Now back under the F#$%ing bridge where you belong..
I know you're a narrow minded TROLL, and I'm sure after reading this note, that everyone else will see that as well.. However, I'm not sure how many people realize that this particular TROLL is an Open Source Initiative Board Member...
Can OS X run headless and lightweight like NetBSD and PPC Linux?
Sure.. But you'd be better off running Darwin, if you want to set up a G3 machine as a firewall or router.. There's no need to install, or fire up Quartz.
At first glance, I thought you were asking what the remote display capabilities of OS X were.. To that I can only answer that NeXT had remote display capabilities, and streaming vector data back and forth to update the local window would ROCK..
Anyway, you can use pre-iMac PPC Macs for useful stuff with Linux, and they won't ever be supported for OS X.
Yep.. I still have a couple pre-G3 machines around here.. We use one as a file server with a slimmed down version of Mac OS 8.1.. We use one as an FTP server and CD Burner (It's great, there's about 10 accounts, and enough space that we can each upload a CD's worth of data.. It's also a nice place to temporarily back-up critical files).. Then we have a couple little 68k boxes that we run NetBSD on as firewalls. Linux and the BSD family will have plenty of boxes to run on..
Both Classic and X-Windows should not be running side by side in Aqua, but each contained within it's own single window, so the different environments with their different ways of doing things are kept separate, making life easier on the user.
I agree that X11 and Classic apps need to be separated from the Carbon and Cocoa apps.. BUT, I have a hunch that X11 is not going to be extremely popular outside the scientific, and geek, communities.. My mom isn't going to install XFree86 and Gimp, when she can grab a Carbon version of GraphicsConverter..
For the science crowd out there, this is actually a big step forward. I can now work on building Data Explorer, SciLab, etc. without switching back and forth between Aqua and X..
To each their own I guess..
First, let me say that I agree that LinuxPPC, YellowDog, Suse PPC, Debian PPC, FreeBSD on PPC, NetBSD, OpenBSD on PPC, etc. are all excellent projects.. Some will be used more than others, but so what?..
As far as the OS X on an original iMac.. It will work, and quite well actually.. The iMac will need some more RAM (a 128MB chip is like $50 right now), and Classic will be about 90% of it's stand-alone speed, but that's not bad.. I've seen OS X 4K46 on a PowerBook G3/266 with 256MB of RAM and it wasn't bad at all..
I'm not sure you realize this, but it sounds like a lot of the fluffy effects will be turned off when OS X is installed on a G3 machine.. For example; Launching an App on a G4 results in a little app that bounces in the dock while the App loads. On a G3, the icon appears in the dock, and a small triangle beneath it flashes while the App loads.. This is just one little example.. I'm sure that hacks will begin appearing around March 25th, that allow you to turn off the drop shadows or square up the corners of the windows (both will save a few cycles)..
I notice that a lot of the machines in this cluster are very old.. A couple grad students, and faculty members having been kicking around the idea of a cluster for our work (fluid dynamics research) for a while.. we discussed using recycled pentiums from the undergraduate computer labs, but when you sit down and work out the math, you find that it's much more effective to buy 8 fast AMD boxes, than it is to monkey around with 32 old pentiums.. And that's probably being generous on the ratios.. I'm guessing, you'd need 8 - 10 90-166MHz pentiums (assuming linear scaling) to match each of the 1GHz AMD boxes.. Sure the AMDs cost $600-$800 a pop, but the install is a snap, and we only need a 8-16 port switch, and 8 cables.. The cabling and switches for the machine above must be a pain in the ass..
Well, I use Macs. It's that simple.
When the "I Love You" hit I remember hearing a lot of mumbling about, users of Macs, Linux, BeOS, etc. being immune to .vbs worms.. Yep.. Sure, but the best part about worms like this current worm, and the I Love You virus, is that they're social worms.
To prove this. I wrote a little Applescript, compiled it into an App, altered the icon so it appeared to be a harmless photoshop .jpeg, then wrapped it up in a self-expanding stuff-it archive, and mailed it to a friend who had been ridiculing the 'dumb' windows crowd.. He immediately popped open the archive, and double clicked the harmless little icon.. You should've seen the look on his face, when a little window popped up on his screen with the sender info for every item in his Eudora inbox
if I were more malicious I would've let the Applescript install itself in the start-up items folder, then instruct photoshop (or even better would have been picture viewer) to display a simple image, while I parsed the Eudora's .mail files for the various info.. And you guys all thought the 'Summarize to Clipboard' was a useless feature.. Just wait until an Applescript for OS X shows up that runs as a background App, sumarizes the contents of the last note received from each unique address, and mails itself to the sender as a smart reply, as a *.gz, a *.pkg, or a stuff-it archive..
Motoboard??? Check out the F$%*ing MotoSK8!! A 22.5cc 2-stroke engine bolted to the back end of a roller blade, producing a top speed of 25+mph.. Damn!
Call me a crank, but the last thing I want is Joe Idiot cruising through the park on one of these things. Bicycles, roller blades, etc. are fine because they're relatively quiet. A 2.5Hp engine is not quiet (not without a bit of work)..
With that said.. I've always wanted to put together a hubless recumbent touring bike.. So, while I really don't like the idea of another humming nuisance, I do like the overall design of this thing..
The Police already have this... There is a collection of papers by Sirovich at Brown University, where a technique called the snapshot Proper Orthogonal Decomposition (POD) was used to construct an optimal basis set for the characterization of human facial features. I believe the work began with an idea to improve the ability of law enforcement agencies to find missing children, or some such noble cause.. However, there's absolutely no reason the same tools couldn't be used to classify the face, fingerprint, etc. for every one without an excessive amount of data..
The general idea is this.. You develop a general set of basis functions that spans the possible range of features found in your population. Then you capture images of each person, as they walk through a surprisingly well lit, blue screen interiored, "metal detector" at the airport, high school, DMV, etc... You then project the basis set onto each image (read: project a fourier mode onto a time signal) to obtain a discrete set of random scalar coefficients for each person.. Throw the scalars at a large database, with very fast search capabilities, cross-reference that database with the airline records, INS (passports), High School databases (think yearbook photos), and there's no reason to believe that everyone couldn't be recorded / indexed /tracked...
Just another happy little thought..
First make all students who want to use the internet sign an agreement
you can't do this.. The kids are not 18
The only reason I submited this article, was to counter the "PPC is nice tech, but where can I get it other than Apple" comments.. The point here is not the size, or shape of this board. The point is that someone other than Apple is shipping a PPC machine.. I realize there are a lot of good, small x86 boards out there..
In all honesty, I don't think a $2500 box with a single G4 processor, a 10/100 adapter, and a 40GB HDD is worth the cash.. Especially, not when I can get a Dual G4 box from Apple for considerably less.. Hell, even the cube is cheaper, and it ships with a DVD