You might be interested in the posters of the "Can Computers Think?" debate from www.macrovu.com :
Map 1: Can computers think? Map 2: Can the Turing test determine whether computers can think? Map 3: Can physical symbol systems think? Map 4: Can Chinese Rooms think? Map 5, Part 1: Can connectionist networks think? Map 5, Part 2: Can computers think in images? Map 6: Do computers have to be conscious to think? Map 7: Are thinking computers mathematically possible?
If Paul Everett was on the right track in this Universe does it mean he is on the wrong track in a parallel universe. Then this becomes a case recursive reasoning.
I had the NTFS Partition formatted as VFAT, as I mentioned in my previous post. And the performance issue is still there under windows but not under Linux!!! So my drive has to go bad when under windows and not go bad under Linux. Which cannot be possible!
I am trying to move from NTFS to XFS for this partition and try out XFS for windows by crossmeta. Lets see how that goes...
Hey, I am not a FS wizkid but, I have noticed this fact on my external USB HDD that has one NTFS partition of 20GB. The write performance is good when the partition is almost empty. But once the partition is almost full (with only about 2-4 GB left on it) the write performance is pathetically slow (1GB/1Hr). But with my other 17GB partition, on the same drive, which is reiserfs formatted I don't see any such problems. I don't have any read performance issues with the NTFS partition in any case.
Even more strangely, I had the same write performance issues under windows XP with VFAT on the 20 GB partition when it became almost full. But the very same partition under Linux had no such write performance issues when the partition became almost full. I don't have rw support for NTFS in Linux, so I couldn't check that.
So to me it seems like the problem is not in the FS structures per se, but in the way windows handles them.
Atleast in India I don't think thats the case. Most children will try to keep their things safe. Most. The kind of environment as incorporated during the design of OLPC laptop is the norm here. Rain, sand... etc. All those situations will throughly be put to test in the hands of a typical poor kid here. However, $200 or even for that matter $100 price tag is way way too very expensive for any of the poor family parents to give it to their kids.
But on the brighter side, the small schools where these poor kids typically attend (a small percentage of poor kids do attend school), might be able to afford a few of them. In which case the schools will take steps to protect their property by imposing necessary restrictions. This might actually make Classmate Laptops feasible for them. Hence, a healthy competition might trigger off bringing down the prices further. Which might _eventually_ make them affordable for the poor families to give it to their kids.
So I definitely want to see competition in this market.
I am interested in learning about Weka. I hardly have any exposure to Data Mining OR Machine Learning. But I am very fascinated by these subjects. Please tell me how/where do I start on Weka? I have a day time job doing C/C++ programming. But I can dedicate atleast 2 hrs per day for this.
You seem to fall into the category of what I call *sane Indians*. If all Hutch/Airtel customers were as sane as you are, why the hell do you still receive those pesky SMS messages every day, all day? Thats because there are 'n' *in-sane* people for every 'm' sane people. Thats what gets spam to your inBox as well. And thats what Nokia/Hutch/Airtell are betting on too! And thats what outfits like Shopperstop, Pantaloons, Cookie Cart, Grammas F*rt, Cheeszy Bums et. al. are betting on too, by pushing their crap for money!
Can someone figure out what n/m is like here in India? I suspect its > 1 and fast growing.
It freaks the hell out of me when they have a title that reads "Gizmo xxxx introduced in India... India IT and economic super power".
Will someone explain how the hell having Visual radio service (provided by a Finnish Company and not an Indian one) has anything to do with India becoming an **IT Super Power**?
I think thats just because Indians are trigget happy with their cell phones and big entertainment buffs. They are probably the biggest chatter boxes on the planet as well (a fact well recognized by MSN and Yahoo!). Most of my *sane* friends here in India spend anything like 10-15% of their monthly income for cell phone bills (Don't ask me about the insane). And the Finnish company recognizes this and is introducing this service here in India. They are just trying to make a few bucks here.
By the way what has Indian govt got to do with this???!!!
Of course if the Indian Govt had a hand in this, the service would be "delayed" indefinitely (the indefinitely is normally not told. It is meant to be figured out). And our honorable elected representatives ("the government") would pocket the money.
Same is the case here in India. You get XP CD for $2. $6 will get you a guy to actually do the installation of XP, Office, Photoshop, couple of games and some nifty utils for you.
I would really like to see the price MS and co. will charge per hour for this. Esp considering the fact that there are cyber cafes in most small sized towns where you can get to use a computer, thats also connected to the internet (though very slow), with a host of applications/games installed on it (all pirated) for $0.40/hr. And that includes the electricity charges the cafe incurs, internet connection charges, any maintanence of HW, plus friendly help with software usage to customers. That would be something really tough to beat in my opinion. Also, considering the fact that some Indian hardware vendors have started offering basic computers, devoid of any software, that come with an AMD semperon and cost in the vicinity of $250 (add a $6 for the pirated SW above), it would be really interesting to see this model work here in India.
oh yeah! If you really consider your "server" to be overpowered run a webserver and post a link here on slashdot? We'll test it out for you until you "get the facts".
"Specifically, it is always illegal to import a work that was made in a manner where, had US law applied, it would've been illegal, regardless of the local law where it was made."
Wow! So it means people in US should not import anything from most of the planet. Because most of the people earn far less money per day than the minimum stipulated wages per hour for allmost all the states in US. So after all outsourcing is illegal. Heck, I knew it!!!
Microsoft can beat all these browsers and win back the browser market in no time by using its desktop dominance to its advantage. As Miguel de Icaza talks about the threat of XAML on his blog as reported here . Icaza states that it would take atleast 2-3 yrs after the launch of longhorn for longhorn to really catch up and become the dominant desktop OS. And that would be enough time for XUL-Mozilla to win the minds of the public. But with Micrisoft planning to put Longhorn features into XP that catch up time becomes effectively halved or less. Adoption time of XP-SP2 can give MS a better statistic to be prepared and also improve upon this adoption for Longhorn features into the mainstream XP. This would tilt the tables on Gbrowser, Firefox, Apache et. al.
Well Steve/Josh..., whoever it was, ranting about MS open sourcing efforts. The first thing I would like to see MS open sourcing is the "Independent Research claims". If you are really serious about open sourcing first try to play it straight. Gain the confidence of the community that you wish to serve. Misleading the community with fake claims is like going orthogonal to your said goals. Remember, Open Source Software is built in the open, not behind veiled walls and half truths.
Start trying to play straight and see the response.
I tried using Plan9 a few years ago upon reading its features out of curiousity. First, it wont start in console mode (probably, unless its hacked) It needs working graphics card. With much difficulty I got my card recognised. Next it didnt recognise my sound card and modem. After great difficulty trying to get it to recognise them, I gave up. Plus its GUI sucked. I still have remnants of Plan9, a 700MB partition now formated as reiserfs and configured as/tmp for my Linux Box!
Cool... Novell sues microsoft through caldera. Now Microsoft sues Novell through caldera (SCO). Looks like its a win-win situation for caldera/SCO. And its a loose-loose situation for Novell and Microsoft.
Goes by the good ol adage: "When two fight, the third wins."
WinFS, XAML, Avalon on longhorn. Does that mean all the apps currently running on xp/2000 have to be ported to longhorn? Or does longhorn provide backwards compatibility? If it does not provide backwards compability, I think this is a mistake that M$ is making. The same mistake that Intel made with Itanium. AMD didn't clone Itanium, but provided a backwards compatible x86 extension. And.... Itanium is as good as dead.
I understand that the situation with Linux is different, in that its not compatible with xp/2000 in the way AMD was.
But, I think there must be a way F/OSS can magnify this mistake of M$ like AMD did with Intel. I think its time F/OSS, instead of playing safe like ol mgmt folks, should make a risk, albeit calculated one. I think they should bet on XUL, the way M$ is betting on XAML.
- Make XUL an independent std. Integrate it into GNOME/KDE (provide libraries for XP/2k/2k+3) for application development. PROVIDE backwards compatibility for older apps.
- Make mozilla show XUL marked up sites. (I am willing to host my site with XUL. I am sure tens of thousands of others will)
- Push XUL to be a web std. That will be a key selling point for corporates to embrace.
- Think for more selling points. ACT STARTING NOW!
I am sure M$ like Intel will be forced to embrace XUL/Mozilla. If they dont, ppl will ignore them, just like they did with Intel.
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What do you folks think about 3DVIA [www.3dvia.com]? It is good with 3D but is it even a contender for flash?
Hmm...
So moral of the story is... use DVD's to back up those movies that are sitting on your hard-drive every now and then. Peace.
You might be interested in the posters of the "Can Computers Think?" debate from www.macrovu.com :
Map 1: Can computers think?
Map 2: Can the Turing test determine whether computers can think?
Map 3: Can physical symbol systems think?
Map 4: Can Chinese Rooms think?
Map 5, Part 1: Can connectionist networks think?
Map 5, Part 2: Can computers think in images?
Map 6: Do computers have to be conscious to think?
Map 7: Are thinking computers mathematically possible?
If Paul Everett was on the right track in this Universe does it mean he is on the wrong track in a parallel universe. Then this becomes a case recursive reasoning.
Maybe this also explains why creationism persists in the face of evolution and Creationists persist in the face of Pagan Atheists.
Apparently there are windows drivers for reiserfs and xfs from crossmeta. I haven't used them. You may give them a shot.
I had the NTFS Partition formatted as VFAT, as I mentioned in my previous post. And the performance issue is still there under windows but not under Linux!!! So my drive has to go bad when under windows and not go bad under Linux. Which cannot be possible!
I am trying to move from NTFS to XFS for this partition and try out XFS for windows by crossmeta. Lets see how that goes...
Hey, I am not a FS wizkid but, I have noticed this fact on my external USB HDD that has one NTFS partition of 20GB. The write performance is good when the partition is almost empty. But once the partition is almost full (with only about 2-4 GB left on it) the write performance is pathetically slow (1GB/1Hr). But with my other 17GB partition, on the same drive, which is reiserfs formatted I don't see any such problems. I don't have any read performance issues with the NTFS partition in any case.
Even more strangely, I had the same write performance issues under windows XP with VFAT on the 20 GB partition when it became almost full. But the very same partition under Linux had no such write performance issues when the partition became almost full. I don't have rw support for NTFS in Linux, so I couldn't check that.
So to me it seems like the problem is not in the FS structures per se, but in the way windows handles them.
Atleast in India I don't think thats the case. Most children will try to keep their things safe. Most. The kind of environment as incorporated during the design of OLPC laptop is the norm here. Rain, sand... etc. All those situations will throughly be put to test in the hands of a typical poor kid here. However, $200 or even for that matter $100 price tag is way way too very expensive for any of the poor family parents to give it to their kids.
But on the brighter side, the small schools where these poor kids typically attend (a small percentage of poor kids do attend school), might be able to afford a few of them. In which case the schools will take steps to protect their property by imposing necessary restrictions. This might actually make Classmate Laptops feasible for them. Hence, a healthy competition might trigger off bringing down the prices further. Which might _eventually_ make them affordable for the poor families to give it to their kids.
So I definitely want to see competition in this market.
I am interested in learning about Weka. I hardly have any exposure to Data Mining OR Machine Learning. But I am very fascinated by these subjects. Please tell me how/where do I start on Weka? I have a day time job doing C/C++ programming. But I can dedicate atleast 2 hrs per day for this.
Thanks.
"why dint this come up when finland did it before india ? "
Simple. Thats because Finland and Singapoo are not IT super powers!
Oh! Don't bother! We don't have any stop signs and crosswalks here in india. its basically chaos and you are part of it.
You seem to fall into the category of what I call *sane Indians*. If all Hutch/Airtel customers were as sane as you are, why the hell do you still receive those pesky SMS messages every day, all day? Thats because there are 'n' *in-sane* people for every 'm' sane people. Thats what gets spam to your inBox as well. And thats what Nokia/Hutch/Airtell are betting on too! And thats what outfits like Shopperstop, Pantaloons, Cookie Cart, Grammas F*rt, Cheeszy Bums et. al. are betting on too, by pushing their crap for money!
Can someone figure out what n/m is like here in India? I suspect its > 1 and fast growing.
It freaks the hell out of me when they have a title that reads "Gizmo xxxx introduced in India ... India IT and economic super power".
Will someone explain how the hell having Visual radio service (provided by a Finnish Company and not an Indian one) has anything to do with India becoming an **IT Super Power**?
I think thats just because Indians are trigget happy with their cell phones and big entertainment buffs. They are probably the biggest chatter boxes on the planet as well (a fact well recognized by MSN and Yahoo!). Most of my *sane* friends here in India spend anything like 10-15% of their monthly income for cell phone bills (Don't ask me about the insane). And the Finnish company recognizes this and is introducing this service here in India. They are just trying to make a few bucks here.
By the way what has Indian govt got to do with this???!!!
Of course if the Indian Govt had a hand in this, the service would be "delayed" indefinitely (the indefinitely is normally not told. It is meant to be figured out). And our honorable elected representatives ("the government") would pocket the money.
Same is the case here in India. You get XP CD for $2. $6 will get you a guy to actually do the installation of XP, Office, Photoshop, couple of games and some nifty utils for you.
I would really like to see the price MS and co. will charge per hour for this. Esp considering the fact that there are cyber cafes in most small sized towns where you can get to use a computer, thats also connected to the internet (though very slow), with a host of applications/games installed on it (all pirated) for $0.40/hr. And that includes the electricity charges the cafe incurs, internet connection charges, any maintanence of HW, plus friendly help with software usage to customers. That would be something really tough to beat in my opinion. Also, considering the fact that some Indian hardware vendors have started offering basic computers, devoid of any software, that come with an AMD semperon and cost in the vicinity of $250 (add a $6 for the pirated SW above), it would be really interesting to see this model work here in India.
"and that it will help unify India with the European Union..."
Whaaa?
oh yeah! If you really consider your "server" to be overpowered run a webserver and post a link here on slashdot? We'll test it out for you until you "get the facts".
"Specifically, it is always illegal to import a work that was made in a manner where, had US law applied, it would've been illegal, regardless of the local law where it was made."
Wow! So it means people in US should not import anything from most of the planet. Because most of the people earn far less money per day than the minimum stipulated wages per hour for allmost all the states in US. So after all outsourcing is illegal. Heck, I knew it!!!
Microsoft can beat all these browsers and win back the browser market in no time by using its desktop dominance to its advantage. As Miguel de Icaza talks about the threat of XAML on his blog as reported here . Icaza states that it would take atleast 2-3 yrs after the launch of longhorn for longhorn to really catch up and become the dominant desktop OS. And that would be enough time for XUL-Mozilla to win the minds of the public. But with Micrisoft planning to put Longhorn features into XP that catch up time becomes effectively halved or less. Adoption time of XP-SP2 can give MS a better statistic to be prepared and also improve upon this adoption for Longhorn features into the mainstream XP. This would tilt the tables on Gbrowser, Firefox, Apache et. al.
Well Steve/Josh..., whoever it was, ranting about MS open sourcing efforts. The first thing I would like to see MS open sourcing is the "Independent Research claims". If you are really serious about open sourcing first try to play it straight. Gain the confidence of the community that you wish to serve. Misleading the community with fake claims is like going orthogonal to your said goals. Remember, Open Source Software is built in the open, not behind veiled walls and half truths.
Start trying to play straight and see the response.
I would be very interested in seeing notepad opensourced. Infact I would like to contribute to notepad. err... but don't ask me if I don't turn up...
I tried using Plan9 a few years ago upon reading its features out of curiousity. First, it wont start in console mode (probably, unless its hacked) It needs working graphics card. With much difficulty I got my card recognised. Next it didnt recognise my sound card and modem. After great difficulty trying to get it to recognise them, I gave up. Plus its GUI sucked. I still have remnants of Plan9, a 700MB partition now formated as reiserfs and configured as /tmp for my Linux Box!
All the best. Try your "luck" with it!
Cool... Novell sues microsoft through caldera. Now Microsoft sues Novell through caldera (SCO). Looks like its a win-win situation for caldera/SCO. And its a loose-loose situation for Novell and Microsoft. Goes by the good ol adage: "When two fight, the third wins."
WinFS, XAML, Avalon on longhorn. Does that mean all the apps currently running on xp/2000 have to be ported to longhorn? Or does longhorn provide backwards compatibility? If it does not provide backwards compability, I think this is a mistake that M$ is making. The same mistake that Intel made with Itanium. AMD didn't clone Itanium, but provided a backwards compatible x86 extension. And.... Itanium is as good as dead.
I understand that the situation with Linux is different, in that its not compatible with xp/2000 in the way AMD was.
But, I think there must be a way F/OSS can magnify this mistake of M$ like AMD did with Intel. I think its time F/OSS, instead of playing safe like ol mgmt folks, should make a risk, albeit calculated one. I think they should bet on XUL, the way M$ is betting on XAML.
- Make XUL an independent std. Integrate it into GNOME/KDE (provide libraries for XP/2k/2k+3) for application development. PROVIDE backwards compatibility for older apps.
- Make mozilla show XUL marked up sites. (I am willing to host my site with XUL. I am sure tens of thousands of others will)
- Push XUL to be a web std. That will be a key selling point for corporates to embrace.
- Think for more selling points. ACT STARTING NOW!
I am sure M$ like Intel will be forced to embrace XUL/Mozilla. If they dont, ppl will ignore them, just like they did with Intel.
But what with hard silica particles?