Around 80 years ago Nylon was invented. I live in Norway but my grandmother lived in New York in the 20ties / 30ties. She told me Nylon was short for "NOW, You Lousy Old Nip'" - a reference to Japan, and the new Nylons replacing the old silk stockins.
She was wrong.
"Thou shalt not kill" is a flawed rendering of the sixth commandment.
Kill, in modern english, is an all encompassing verb that covers taking life in any form. For example, look at the following two statements:
"The bank robber killed the teller."
"We killed our old lawn, so that we could lay down new sod."
Clearly there are two different concepts being conveyed in these examples. I would certainly hope that you are not implying that God would be opposed to the latter example.
Kill, as we currently use it, would be expressed in hebrew through the word "harag". The sixt hcommandment, however, use the word "ratsach", which is a completely different concept.
Ratsach is used only a few times in the Old Testament. (Judeges 20:4, 1 Kings 21:19, 2 Kings 6:32, Job 24:14, Ps 62:3, Prov. 22:13, and Hos 6:9). Based on the context of these verses, most scholars believe that Ratsach is more akin to our word for murder.
While quite a few special interest groups have taken the 6th commandment and used it to support their cause, in doing so they overlook the multiple instances in the bible in which God condones or commands war, animal sacrifice, and capital punishment. In other words, the argument contains no internal logic.
Back in the mid 1990's, there was a very active Warez scene that operated via AOL. While it seems sort of goofy that anyone would use AOL for anything, AOL's mail infrastructure at the time allowed for a pretty clever scheme.
Remember that this was a time that most people did not have broadband. These Warez rings would get someone who did have broadband (normally through school or work), and have them send an email to themself via AOL, attaching whatever file they wanted to share.
Then, they would go into some AOL private room, and run something not unlike IRC's SDFind. However, what made this really clever was that because the file had already been uploaded to AOL's mail server, the person "hosting" the file only had to upload once, and from then on the file existed on AOL's mail server. Therefore, you had a system like SDFind, but with no queues.
If you were looking for, lets say, RedHat ES2.1, you would enter a server room, and type @find RedhatES2.1. If anyone in that room had it in their mailbox, the script would notify you. You would then type @get "filename", and they would automatically forward you the email that included the attachment in question. You were then free to download that file at your leisure, without having to wait for queues, etc. The person hosting the file had sent it to you with a very minimal bandwidth impact.
I fully anticipate someone writing a similar piece of software for IRC using gMail.
I remember a similar story running on/. a few months ago that was about a study that showed that young male viewship is way down. After seeing this story, I started to really examine why I personally had reduced my TV viewing.
To give you some background, I am an upper-middle class male, married, age 25 to 29, lots of disposable income - one of the "money" demographics. Currently, my television habits are limited to Laker games, some discovery channel, and the Simpsons. Once the basketball season is over, I watch about 2 hours of television per week. I spend roughly three times that playing video games.
My reason for hardly watching television anymore is simple - I am sick and tired of being told that I am an idiot because I am male. 99% of sitcoms are based on the premise that the husband is a complete screwup, and his wife has to come save him from himself. In commercials, we see men who are unable to perform basic tasks, while their wife smirks knowingly, before doing it for him. We have shows like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" that in essence give the message that masculinity is bad, and that the only way that a male can be worthwhile is to change his entire life to meet his wife's whims.
My post was in response to an AC who posted "I don't think so, I heard it is too hot." If you were reading at +1, you would have missed that, and assumed that I was responding to the grandparent.
"Anyway... that's 700 million bucks a year to Disney just for ESPN!! You could argue that just keeping the ESPN 700mil "in house" alone makes this deal worthwhile!"
Well, I suppose you could argue that - but you would be wrong.
FYI, here is a list of the Interrogatories that SCO was supposed to answer. From the looks of it, they did not answer number 10 or 11.
INTERROGATORY NO. 1: seeks specific identification of all alleged trade secrets and confidential or proprietary information that SCO alleges IBM misappropriated or misused. This information is requested by product, file and line of code.
INTERROGATORY NO. 2: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 2 seeks further identification of: (a) all persons who have or had rights to the same; (b) the nature and sources of SCO's rights in the same; and (c) efforts to maintain secrecy or confidentiality of the same.
INTERROGATORY NO. 3: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 3 seeks the identity of all persons to whom the same was disclosed and the details of such disclosure. In particular, this interrogatory seeks: (a) the date of disclosure; (b) the terms of disclosure; (c) the documents relating to disclosure; (d) all places where the trade secret and/or confidential or proprietary information may be found or accessed.
INTERROGATORY NO. 4: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 4 seeks information regarding each instance in which plaintiff alleges that IBM misappropriated or misused the same. In particular, this interrogatory seeks (a) the date of the alleged misuse or misappropriation; (b) the persons involved; c) the manner of misuse or misappropriation; and (d) the location of any method or code in any IBM product, Linux, open source or the public domain.
INTERROGATORY NO. 5: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 5 seeks identification of (a) all agreements relating thereto, and (b) all copyrights and patents relating thereto, including but not limited to the owners, licensors, licensees, assignors or assignees thereof.
INTERROGATORY NO. 6: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 6 seeks (a) the origin of the code or method, including where, when and by whom created; (b) all products in which the code or method is included or upon which it is based (in whole or in part).
INTERROGATORY NO. 7: seeks a description of each instance in which IBM allegedly engaged in unfair competition, including but not limited to: (a) the dates of such conduct, (b) the persons involved, and (c) the specific manner of unfair competition.
INTERROGATORY NO. 8: seeks the identification of all agreements with which IBM allegedly interfered, including but not limited to: (a) the date of interference, (b) the persons involved in the interference, (c) the manner of interference, (d) the actions (if any) IBM encouraged licensees to take, (e) the actions, if any, such licensees took as a result of IBM's inducement/encouragement, (f) the trade secret or proprietary information (if any) involved in the alleged interference.
INTERROGATORY NO. 9: seeks identification of all agreements that IBM has allegedly breached, including but not limited to: (a) the date of breach, (b) the persons involved, and (c) the specific manner of breach.
INTERROGATORY NO. 10: Separately, for each of plaintiff's claims for relief, please identify all persons (including but not limited to present or former employees of plaintiff or plaintiff's predecessors in interest) with knowledge relating to plaintiff's claims and contentions and the general nature of, or the categories of, facts known by each person.
INTERROGATORY No.11: Please identify all products ever marketed, sold or distributed by plaintiff or plaintiff's pred
So, if Gabucino is correct, Kiss Technology stole code from MPlayer. And if Peter Wilmar Christensen is correct, someone working for Kiss Technology leaked the information to the competition, possibly for money.
Neither scenario paints a pretty picture of Kiss Technology. Are they a publically traded company?
(sorry to keep harping on this, but it is pretty facinating stuff for someone like me who failed to see how interesting this stuff is back when I was in school)
Wow, so whatever it is that keeps those two hydrogen atoms attached to the oxygen atom would just disappear? Or is it the atmospheric pressure that keeps the atoms together in the first place?
Really? It would boil? Wow... thanks, TheBungi - I actually learned something new and pretty cool today!
So, it would boil because there was not enough atmospheric pressure to keep it in liquid form? Would it create something similar to steam, or would it just completely dissipate - in other words, would it covert to a gas, or would it just... um... cease to exist?
I think that the root of my misunderstanding was that I did not notice the question mark in the title of this story - I read it as "Mars Rover Sniffs First Hint of Water!" - so you can see why I was confused. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
The release also refers us to their SCOSource web site, which they claim in their announcement shows 'proof' of infringement. I was unable to find any such 'proof' other than their claim that they own errno.h. Since I'm obviously too much of an idiot to find the 'proof' they claim they're showing, maybe someone else could go look and tell me where it is."
No, see, you misread their site. They aren't claiming to own errno.h. That is there official statement - as in:
IBM: Show us the infringing code.
SCO: Um, well, Err..... NO!
SITE ALREADY SLASHDOTTED, HERES A MIRROR!
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Around 80 years ago Nylon was invented. I live in Norway but my grandmother lived in New York in the 20ties / 30ties. She told me Nylon was short for "NOW, You Lousy Old Nip'" - a reference to Japan, and the new Nylons replacing the old silk stockins.
She was wrong.
Take that, Seattle.
Kill, in modern english, is an all encompassing verb that covers taking life in any form. For example, look at the following two statements:
"The bank robber killed the teller."
"We killed our old lawn, so that we could lay down new sod."
Clearly there are two different concepts being conveyed in these examples. I would certainly hope that you are not implying that God would be opposed to the latter example.
Kill, as we currently use it, would be expressed in hebrew through the word "harag". The sixt hcommandment, however, use the word "ratsach", which is a completely different concept.
Ratsach is used only a few times in the Old Testament. (Judeges 20:4, 1 Kings 21:19, 2 Kings 6:32, Job 24:14, Ps 62:3, Prov. 22:13, and Hos 6:9). Based on the context of these verses, most scholars believe that Ratsach is more akin to our word for murder.
While quite a few special interest groups have taken the 6th commandment and used it to support their cause, in doing so they overlook the multiple instances in the bible in which God condones or commands war, animal sacrifice, and capital punishment. In other words, the argument contains no internal logic.
Remember that this was a time that most people did not have broadband. These Warez rings would get someone who did have broadband (normally through school or work), and have them send an email to themself via AOL, attaching whatever file they wanted to share.
Then, they would go into some AOL private room, and run something not unlike IRC's SDFind. However, what made this really clever was that because the file had already been uploaded to AOL's mail server, the person "hosting" the file only had to upload once, and from then on the file existed on AOL's mail server. Therefore, you had a system like SDFind, but with no queues.
If you were looking for, lets say, RedHat ES2.1, you would enter a server room, and type @find RedhatES2.1. If anyone in that room had it in their mailbox, the script would notify you. You would then type @get "filename", and they would automatically forward you the email that included the attachment in question. You were then free to download that file at your leisure, without having to wait for queues, etc. The person hosting the file had sent it to you with a very minimal bandwidth impact.
I fully anticipate someone writing a similar piece of software for IRC using gMail.
To give you some background, I am an upper-middle class male, married, age 25 to 29, lots of disposable income - one of the "money" demographics. Currently, my television habits are limited to Laker games, some discovery channel, and the Simpsons. Once the basketball season is over, I watch about 2 hours of television per week. I spend roughly three times that playing video games.
My reason for hardly watching television anymore is simple - I am sick and tired of being told that I am an idiot because I am male. 99% of sitcoms are based on the premise that the husband is a complete screwup, and his wife has to come save him from himself. In commercials, we see men who are unable to perform basic tasks, while their wife smirks knowingly, before doing it for him. We have shows like "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" that in essence give the message that masculinity is bad, and that the only way that a male can be worthwhile is to change his entire life to meet his wife's whims.
Anyway, that is just my $0.02. YMMV. HAND. .
Your Grandfather plagiarized that from the author of Ecclesiastes.
How fitting ...
My post was in response to an AC who posted "I don't think so, I heard it is too hot." If you were reading at +1, you would have missed that, and assumed that I was responding to the grandparent.
"How much better can you get than kool?!"
Ice Kold?
So, I accidently copied and pasted the wrong URL. Fine, I am a bonehead. But to waste you mod points to mark that as a troll was just silly.
Plus, it was the perfect low-pitch to 3waygeek for the east joke. That ought to be worth something ...
Well, I suppose you could argue that - but you would be wrong.
$66 Billion divided by $700 Million
It would take just under a century to break even on the deal.
How very tempting.
INTERROGATORY NO. 1: seeks specific identification of all alleged trade secrets and confidential or proprietary information that SCO alleges IBM misappropriated or misused. This information is requested by product, file and line of code.
INTERROGATORY NO. 2: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 2 seeks further identification of: (a) all persons who have or had rights to the same; (b) the nature and sources of SCO's rights in the same; and (c) efforts to maintain secrecy or confidentiality of the same.
INTERROGATORY NO. 3: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 3 seeks the identity of all persons to whom the same was disclosed and the details of such disclosure. In particular, this interrogatory seeks: (a) the date of disclosure; (b) the terms of disclosure; (c) the documents relating to disclosure; (d) all places where the trade secret and/or confidential or proprietary information may be found or accessed.
INTERROGATORY NO. 4: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 4 seeks information regarding each instance in which plaintiff alleges that IBM misappropriated or misused the same. In particular, this interrogatory seeks (a) the date of the alleged misuse or misappropriation; (b) the persons involved; c) the manner of misuse or misappropriation; and (d) the location of any method or code in any IBM product, Linux, open source or the public domain.
INTERROGATORY NO. 5: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 5 seeks identification of (a) all agreements relating thereto, and (b) all copyrights and patents relating thereto, including but not limited to the owners, licensors, licensees, assignors or assignees thereof.
INTERROGATORY NO. 6: For each alleged trade secret and any confidential or proprietary information identified in response to Interrogatory No. 1, Interrogatory No. 6 seeks (a) the origin of the code or method, including where, when and by whom created; (b) all products in which the code or method is included or upon which it is based (in whole or in part).
INTERROGATORY NO. 7: seeks a description of each instance in which IBM allegedly engaged in unfair competition, including but not limited to: (a) the dates of such conduct, (b) the persons involved, and (c) the specific manner of unfair competition.
INTERROGATORY NO. 8: seeks the identification of all agreements with which IBM allegedly interfered, including but not limited to: (a) the date of interference, (b) the persons involved in the interference, (c) the manner of interference, (d) the actions (if any) IBM encouraged licensees to take, (e) the actions, if any, such licensees took as a result of IBM's inducement/encouragement, (f) the trade secret or proprietary information (if any) involved in the alleged interference.
INTERROGATORY NO. 9: seeks identification of all agreements that IBM has allegedly breached, including but not limited to: (a) the date of breach, (b) the persons involved, and (c) the specific manner of breach.
INTERROGATORY NO. 10: Separately, for each of plaintiff's claims for relief, please identify all persons (including but not limited to present or former employees of plaintiff or plaintiff's predecessors in interest) with knowledge relating to plaintiff's claims and contentions and the general nature of, or the categories of, facts known by each person.
INTERROGATORY No.11: Please identify all products ever marketed, sold or distributed by plaintiff or plaintiff's pred
Michael Bolton: Load Letter? What the f*ck does that mean?!?!?? You wanna step to this? I didn;t think so!
Neither scenario paints a pretty picture of Kiss Technology. Are they a publically traded company?
The machines run Microsoft's Windows XP operating system and all the software that goes with it
I know this is pretty much a /. cliche, but I think that it is actually warranted in this case - can you run Linux on it?
I can think of several functional uses that a PC of this size could fulfil running Linux.
Wow, so whatever it is that keeps those two hydrogen atoms attached to the oxygen atom would just disappear? Or is it the atmospheric pressure that keeps the atoms together in the first place?
So, it would boil because there was not enough atmospheric pressure to keep it in liquid form? Would it create something similar to steam, or would it just completely dissipate - in other words, would it covert to a gas, or would it just ... um ... cease to exist?
I think that the root of my misunderstanding was that I did not notice the question mark in the title of this story - I read it as "Mars Rover Sniffs First Hint of Water!" - so you can see why I was confused. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
There is no water, and even if there was water, it is so cold that it would freeze before it had a chance to mix with the soil. Correct?
"It looks like mud, but it can't be mud.
I skimmed the article, and did not see it explained anywhere. Why, exactly, can it not be mud?
Thanks in advance!
No, see, you misread their site. They aren't claiming to own errno.h. That is there official statement - as in:
IBM: Show us the infringing code.
SCO: Um, well, Err..... NO!
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