Considering a town they helped form was named Quakertown, I really don't believe they were offended by it. But please, continue to derail the discussion with irrelevent "facts."
* File Locked rather than writeable by administrator for upgrade purposes.
That's a design CHOICE, not a design flaw. Its also irrlevent, because you still need to bring down the affected services on Linux too for the patch to take affect.
* Ring 1 or higher code being able to write to Ring 0 locations.
Only when done by an administrator... otherwise updates would be difficult, would they not?
* Administrative users necessary to run most things (MS software or otherwise).
Most MS software (all currently sold products?) do not require admin access to run. Third party software which is badly written is much to blame here, and MS has been attempting to force the issue with things like UAC.
* Proprietary networking.
Not a design flaw, and vague too. At any rate proprietary doesn't not mean bad design.
* Lack of regression testing (LAND should just never have happened).
Wow... need to go back to Win95? Which by the way isn't part of the NT kernel line.
So by my count you're still at zero. Want to try again? Or is there a reason you could only even conceived of five very poor attacks?
You assume the dicussion is about freedom for most people. End users and businesses in the end usually only care about cost of software + support.
There's nothing unetchical about not being able to change MS software, although I seriously doubt they'd come after anyone that changed it only on their computer. Can you provide an example to where that happened?
There's no inherent reason you should be able to provide MS software to your neighbor anymore than you should be able to provide a photocopy of a book or a copy of an entire CD to them.
There's nothing wrong with not being able to "improve" their software either. Its a limitation, sure, but there's no ethics issues involved.
You can point out freedom all you want, but the points you discuss are irrelevent to most people, and they'd rather have something that works well. Yes, I ran Linux on a server for 10 years, and desktop for two. I CHOOSE to pay for Windows again because it worked better than Linux, and I don't care about your talking points.
Stealing bread, regardless of reason, is still wrong. Of course people like to rationalize it by saying the other person doesn't need it, should be more generous, blah blah blah. But that doesn't make it right.
True, but this does not absolve the criminal from doing the time. No different than saying that rape is okay because the victim was "asking for it, all dressed up like that".
Actually it is different; in one case, the guard was PAID to do something, and he didn't, which is wrong. The woman just dressed how she wanted to. There's nothing inherently wrong with any particular style of dress, but people like to pretend certain styles of dress are more moral than others.
A sleeping gaurd does not contribute to theft. They fail in their job function, but they didn't do anything to cause the other person to steal either (unless you're claiming they were working together, which you don't seem to be doing). Following your logic, I would be contributing to my own home being burgurlized because I DIDN'T even hire a guard.
Oh ya, 24hrs without service that you're paying for is no big deal. And the monthly rate hikes aren't either. And their crappy filtering. And their screwing with municipalities that want to do it on their own becuase they know of comcast's shit record.
Comcast gets so much hate BECAUSE THEY FUCKING SUCK. I think at this point I'd rather slit my wrists than have to pay them again.
And I strongly believe they are the ones pushing for bad solutions to my citys fiber network, including a proposal to sell it (gee, I wonder WHO would buy it? Comcast, just having taken over Adelphia? Na!).
Nope, but i suspect you've been sucking Jobs dick.
Seriously there was even a story on msnbc talking about the underwhelming response to the iPad. And another one asking people to stop (and this was only the day after) with the feminine product jokes.
I think your own experience is being surrounded by other fanboys.
I'm all for that, especially given that one church in particular seems to like creating victims that grow up to sue them later, thus adding to case load.
First, the scientific evidence heavily supports one at the expense of the other. (FYI, creationists argue things happened just like it says in the bible).
Second, that "initial singularity" you put up as the start of the universe hasn't been proven either. Its just where the evidence points, for now. But as you said about evolution, its not proven, and there may have been no singularity. So stop pushing one theory when it supports you view and disparaging another when it doesn't.
I'd like to ask you, since you're obviously a quack. How exactly would you combine church and state while having the state not endorse a particular religion? Seems to me that a combination is exactly an endorsement.
You pay with your time having to support the damned thing. Yup, I left linux because it was too much trouble keeping it going and I wasn't able to get done what I actually wanted to get done. I now happily pay for Windows, and have never had a virus.
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and meanwhile, while you're doing that, the city offices aren't able to process anything.
Ya, they did it wrong...
Considering a town they helped form was named Quakertown, I really don't believe they were offended by it. But please, continue to derail the discussion with irrelevent "facts."
Huh? I can build a Linux program which requires root access everytime it runs, if I so choose. So I guess Linux suffers the same problem then huh?
* File Locked rather than writeable by administrator for upgrade purposes.
That's a design CHOICE, not a design flaw. Its also irrlevent, because you still need to bring down the affected services on Linux too for the patch to take affect.
* Ring 1 or higher code being able to write to Ring 0 locations.
Only when done by an administrator... otherwise updates would be difficult, would they not?
* Administrative users necessary to run most things (MS software or otherwise).
Most MS software (all currently sold products?) do not require admin access to run. Third party software which is badly written is much to blame here, and MS has been attempting to force the issue with things like UAC.
* Proprietary networking.
Not a design flaw, and vague too. At any rate proprietary doesn't not mean bad design.
* Lack of regression testing (LAND should just never have happened).
Wow... need to go back to Win95? Which by the way isn't part of the NT kernel line.
So by my count you're still at zero. Want to try again? Or is there a reason you could only even conceived of five very poor attacks?
You assume the dicussion is about freedom for most people. End users and businesses in the end usually only care about cost of software + support.
There's nothing unetchical about not being able to change MS software, although I seriously doubt they'd come after anyone that changed it only on their computer. Can you provide an example to where that happened?
There's no inherent reason you should be able to provide MS software to your neighbor anymore than you should be able to provide a photocopy of a book or a copy of an entire CD to them.
There's nothing wrong with not being able to "improve" their software either. Its a limitation, sure, but there's no ethics issues involved.
You can point out freedom all you want, but the points you discuss are irrelevent to most people, and they'd rather have something that works well. Yes, I ran Linux on a server for 10 years, and desktop for two. I CHOOSE to pay for Windows again because it worked better than Linux, and I don't care about your talking points.
Stealing bread, regardless of reason, is still wrong. Of course people like to rationalize it by saying the other person doesn't need it, should be more generous, blah blah blah. But that doesn't make it right.
True, but this does not absolve the criminal from doing the time. No different than saying that rape is okay because the victim was "asking for it, all dressed up like that".
Actually it is different; in one case, the guard was PAID to do something, and he didn't, which is wrong. The woman just dressed how she wanted to. There's nothing inherently wrong with any particular style of dress, but people like to pretend certain styles of dress are more moral than others.
A sleeping gaurd does not contribute to theft. They fail in their job function, but they didn't do anything to cause the other person to steal either (unless you're claiming they were working together, which you don't seem to be doing). Following your logic, I would be contributing to my own home being burgurlized because I DIDN'T even hire a guard.
Ya, it is the crimials fault. I might forget to lock my door, that doesn't make it any more ok for people to steal from me.
Why? Because web mail blows. Horribly. The web as an application interface sucks a dick.
I'll use outlook, thanks. And if my email changes.. well that's why I have a forwarder.
Oh ya, 24hrs without service that you're paying for is no big deal. And the monthly rate hikes aren't either. And their crappy filtering. And their screwing with municipalities that want to do it on their own becuase they know of comcast's shit record.
I can only assume you must be a comcast employee.
Well, as you point out, VZW came from merging two companies. I don't think Bell Atlantic would sell as well in CA...
uh, if its once a year how is it randomly?
Comcast gets so much hate BECAUSE THEY FUCKING SUCK. I think at this point I'd rather slit my wrists than have to pay them again.
And I strongly believe they are the ones pushing for bad solutions to my citys fiber network, including a proposal to sell it (gee, I wonder WHO would buy it? Comcast, just having taken over Adelphia? Na!).
Knowning someone abused by their parents, movies would be the least of that child's problems. Quit being an idiot.
Well, there's a trick to those growth charts; when you start at zero, sell 10, and you have a HUGE growth rate.
Lets wait a bit and see how many iPhones are actually around. Of all the phones I see on people, the iPhone is still pretty rare.
Nope, but i suspect you've been sucking Jobs dick.
Seriously there was even a story on msnbc talking about the underwhelming response to the iPad. And another one asking people to stop (and this was only the day after) with the feminine product jokes.
I think your own experience is being surrounded by other fanboys.
Well, why is while( expr == true ) fundamentally better than for( ; expr == true ; )?
Other than while is just shorter and reads better... they both do the same.
Wow, you're the first person I've heard that's said anything more than "meh" about the ipad.
I'm all for that, especially given that one church in particular seems to like creating victims that grow up to sue them later, thus adding to case load.
Wow, you fail at your own logic.
First, the scientific evidence heavily supports one at the expense of the other. (FYI, creationists argue things happened just like it says in the bible).
Second, that "initial singularity" you put up as the start of the universe hasn't been proven either. Its just where the evidence points, for now. But as you said about evolution, its not proven, and there may have been no singularity. So stop pushing one theory when it supports you view and disparaging another when it doesn't.
No, our founders clearly did want to separate church and state:
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ed_buckner/quotations.html#II
I'd like to ask you, since you're obviously a quack. How exactly would you combine church and state while having the state not endorse a particular religion? Seems to me that a combination is exactly an endorsement.
You pay with your time having to support the damned thing. Yup, I left linux because it was too much trouble keeping it going and I wasn't able to get done what I actually wanted to get done. I now happily pay for Windows, and have never had a virus.
The difference is that you're licensing the software, not purchasing it.
I can explain it; you bought a Dell, and the ENTIRE COMPUTER is supported by Dell... even the OS.