I'm not quite sure where you're getting your information, but they have proven that chemicals in cigerettes do cause cancer. They use mice to do this; try it on one group, keep another group identical but without exposure to the chemicals in question. Then, see how many end up with lung cancer in either group.
If lead does indeed cause violent behavior, its reasonable that at a time when a lot of lead was emitted into the air, that it would cause MORE violent behavior than we would have had if there were no lead in the air.
Oh please, can't we NOT have a conversation on slashdot without somebody bringing up a car analogy?
Not sure I follow you're double negatives..
And if you have to make one, at least make it close. Your analogy would be a bit closer if: 1) We only had a small handful of cars to easily choose from, one per mainstream OS. 2) Nearly all car maintenance was done by some young geek that you happen to personally know.
The number of cars to choose from is irrelevent. Would it have been ok to steal the Model T, because it was the only car at the time? As far as maintence goes, you either take it to the dealer, that you trust, even if you don't know everyone there personally. So I think its pretty close.
While I'm not sure of the parent's reasons, the underlying point that people get what their 'family computer kid' recommends them is not too far off. If they can't fix it, they aren't likely to recommend it, and if they aren't using it (the reason why doesn't really matter), that holds a lot of weight with somebody that doesn't know anything about the different operating systems. They want to use what you are using.
No, I don't think so. I think most people get what they've used at work, or what comes preloaded on their computer, and what runs all the applications they want to run. Or maybe you missed all the/.ers that won't help their family because they don't want to leave Windows?
I don't know, I am honestly worried about where that court ruling could take us. Technically speaking they are not "breaking" anything. They are simply crafting and sending out packets. Do we really want a world where our packets can become illegal weapons?
Do you really want a world where I can send packets to interupt a service you are paying for? Where DDOSes are legal?
Think about it, if you are off somewhere, doing "whatever" and you do say ARP posioning to help in your "whatever" you could of just commited a crime! Right now you can say "Screw of cop, its my network you can go to hell." but if we start telling Comcast don't send out these packets, it could be a very slipperly slope.
Your right to do "whatever" ends when it interferes with someone else's right to do ligitimate "whatever."
The other thing to keep in mind is that we pay Comcast to basically lease time/energy on there networks. I understand that they interchange with other networks, but it is still there networks.
That's what this lawsuit would have to be about; they are violating the contract entered into when you signed up for the service. You can say they have a right to change their network, but they can't without giving you warning and telling you upfront they intend to do so. They also have to let you backout of the contract without penalty. Even a clause saying they can block whatever they want would not be held up; its too vauge, and gives them too much power in the contract.
If anything this is a contract dispute, not the worlds end.
If you let big corps screw you, it does become a serious threat to our way of life. Basically you're saying any large entity can do whatever they want, without consequence, and we have to suck it up. Even though the whole idea behind corporations is that they ARE supposed to serve some public good.
That being said, I hate the bastards too. Frigen making me go to there office because the last person who had my apartment had late payments.. so I have to take an ID down and a copy of my lease. Assholes. I'll just keep stealing internet from folks near by, and downloading movies. TAKE THAT COMCAST. EAT IT.
However you want to rationalize stealing from your neighbors. Screwing comcast by screwing your neighbors isn't exactly the heroic thing to do...
Um, excuse me? How will having this information have an impact one way or the other on air safety? I doubt it would have any impact whatsoever. It COULD impact how much people fly, if they are unreasonably scared. Personally, that's a larger problem than anything else; people irrationally getting scared over every little thing. I'd rather they calm down and think clearly.. then we also wouldn't be throwing rights away for "security."
How long it take to create a disk with Forefox versus a disk with just Windows? As I said earlier, maybe you missed it, if I had had a ghost disk it would have saved me hours reinstalling Windows. And because tyme is money those hours could be put to better use.
You don't get it, still. They don't just create a ghost with Windows. They add in all their other apps as well that are standard. Then it takes quite a bit of time to create the image, and reload the image without a browser to install one, then more time to create another image. I ghosted my 120GB HD, it took a few HOURS to do so. Not to mention prep time (zeroing out the empty part of the disk so that it would compress better).
No I'm not out of school, and I never will be. If you mean high school, I graduated many years ago. Or do you mean college? Though I don't have a BA or BS I got my AA years ago as well. Have I worked in the real world? Not only did I serve in the US Army but I worked part time jobs while in college then full time in construction for a few years.
I can only wonder what you're major was. Your jobs didn't seem to require any critical thinking though, which seems to be what you were missing in this discussion. Perhaps you also lack experience in computers? I don't know, but I have ghosted quite a few times and it takes a non-trivial amount of time.
Sorry I made a mistake, however your condescending attitude, "You're not out of school yet, are you?" doesn't help. If instead you had simply pointed out where I was wrong it would of been better. I wonder if you have an excuse for your attitude, I have an excuse for my bad memory, I am a survivor of a Traumatic Brain Injury, TBI. I wonder how you would do with one. Maybe I should just roll over and die, well after I came out of a coma I was in my sister said that I screamed at everyone to just let me die. Unfortunately they didn't.
First, you should check the thread history to see who started with an attitude. Second, I'm not going to give sympathy to someone because they didn't know what they were talking about. Apparently your memory is good enough to get onto slashdot, check your user page for replies and remember the injury you suffer. Finally, when someone does show a lack of critical thinking and experience, it DOES stand to reason that person is a child or not yet in the real world. So while you take that question in a condosending manner, I was actually serious when I asked it.
Sounds like half the drivers on the road: ignore traffic lights and turn indicators, drift through crosswalks on red lights, don't stop at 4 way stops or understand right of way, etc.
Not half, at least where I am. And I doubt where you are too; if half of all drivers ran red lights, there'd be serious problems. I grew up in Philly, so I also have plenty of experience with crowded cities.
Here though, 99% of all bikes I ever see as a matter of routine run all stop signs and red lights. I wish I were excaggerating, but I'm not. I didn't see this, even in and around Philly.
Yes, in the dead of winter. And by running all the stop signs / traffic signals, choosing sidewalk or road, whichever is more convient, and by NOT following the clearly marked bike paths (with stops signs when you come to ramps to Interstates).
Sorry, dealing with bikers as I do up here, I want to BAN them from use any anything but dedicated bike paths. They just don't follow the rules, and do whatever they want.
Can you please show me where you had said anything about it being a cost issue? Following the parent link I went up the thread and saw nothing about cost except maybe in one of your posts you say "OEMs don't want to waste time installing three different programs that do the same thing.".
Maybe you should look a little harder. From my comment here.
So the user can pick something that does pretty much the same thing as the other two options, and not knowing what would be the "best" option for them? It just adds to user confusion, and / or OEM costs.
Oh, and lets not forget about those support calls..
That says tyme not cost, now you could say tyme is cost but then I replied you could ghost image the drive which does not add a significant amount of tyme.
It does take time to create the additional images. You need to pay someone to do another clean install, then install the second browser, run the imaging program (tying up resources that could be used elsewhere). Perhaps you've never heard of the saying 'time is money.' Using the image isn't the issue, its creating the image, and yes, there is a cost assoiated with the time to create an image.
Ghosting hard disk drives actually saves tyme, and money, by eliminating the need to install Windows and any apps included on every drive by hand. There were tymes I would have loved a drive image as I spent hours a bunch of tymes reinstalling just Windows. With a ghost image all I would of had to do is remove the old hdd and install the ghost. Five minutes to exchange drives then maybe the rest of the hour to bootup the PC and make sure things are good to go. It would have saved me a lot of tyme.
In production; to make the ghost image (now three, one for each browser) does take time. By offering more ghosting images, you need to spend TIME up front to make the image. It's a cost.
If you can't understand the above I think you're the one who's dense.
You're not out of school yet, are you? Have you never worked in the real world?
Again, where did you say anything about "COST" before this post I am replying to now. Maybe you thought you mentioned it but I don't see where you actually did.
Well I spelt out exactly where I used the word cost. Followed by a statement that incidates more costs (more support calls to an OEM = more COST to run the support center). I'm sorry if I didn't spell it out in big bold letters for you, most people could figure out that these options all cost the OEMs something. Something they DO NOT recoup in any way. As I said, you seem to be dense.
Ya they do. They also offer a lot more than five different lines of PCs, and they already include quite a few options for software. Nobody said it was a space is, IT'S A FUCKING COST ISSUE. My god you are dense. How much money would it make them to offer a choice of browser? Zero. How much more HDs do they now need to buy, install, maintain, update, inventory, etc? Its not like they just let them lie on the floor and run cables to them.. they also need to be housed and cooled. So its a cost with no payoff for the OEM.
Seems you need not just to work on your reading comprehension but your geometry as well.
My reading skills are fine; you've posted nothing that indicates I misunderstood you, where you clearly didn't read my post correctly. Now you're throwing out geometry, AGAIN missing the point. In case you still have not gotten it, IT'S ABOUT COST, with absolutely ZERO return.
I never said to limit choice. If IE comes pre-installed, you're unable to use FireFox? You still have the choice.
As far as storage goes, I was refering to the actual storing of the ghost image, which means you have to image the ENTIRE disk, because only 1% of it is changed because IE or FF was installed. Unless you know of some ghosting program that can 'fill in the blanks' so that you don't need to store the entire disk image.
Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension.
I really hate when people reply like that, because you are absolutely right. I hate comcast, and would sooner spit on one of their employees dying on the side of the road as help them, but unfortunately many people don't have a choice.
Unconscionable? Is that illegal? I thought most publically traded companies where Unconscionable.
Yes. If a contract is found to be too greatly one-sided, parts or all of it can be thrown out in a court. Which is why many of these 'binding arbitration' clauses have been thrown out recently.
As a landlord, you most certainly can put restictions on what types of activities are acceptable in / on your properties.
Right. Just like you can say that the tennat no invite black people in. Or have gay sex. Or get DishTV installed. Oh, wait...
Wow, up to 10 MB now? I know in my area they raised it to 10 as well, but its still not as good. I never got their max speed anyway, and it was async. I'll still with my 8MP up and down.
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Oh, so you mean it will play home movies just fine, but not what most people do, which is to watch commerical movies.
I'm not quite sure where you're getting your information, but they have proven that chemicals in cigerettes do cause cancer. They use mice to do this; try it on one group, keep another group identical but without exposure to the chemicals in question. Then, see how many end up with lung cancer in either group.
If lead does indeed cause violent behavior, its reasonable that at a time when a lot of lead was emitted into the air, that it would cause MORE violent behavior than we would have had if there were no lead in the air.
Oh I'm sorry, that's for the Small Business Full version. Ultimate is more.
Except that if you go to price grabber, you can get Ultimate for the 339.
*sigh* More FUD
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The price you quoted is the Ultimate edition; or do you think you need that one to get Word?
Oh please, can't we NOT have a conversation on slashdot without somebody bringing up a car analogy?
/.ers that won't help their family because they don't want to leave Windows?
Not sure I follow you're double negatives..
And if you have to make one, at least make it close. Your analogy would be a bit closer if: 1) We only had a small handful of cars to easily choose from, one per mainstream OS. 2) Nearly all car maintenance was done by some young geek that you happen to personally know.
The number of cars to choose from is irrelevent. Would it have been ok to steal the Model T, because it was the only car at the time? As far as maintence goes, you either take it to the dealer, that you trust, even if you don't know everyone there personally. So I think its pretty close.
While I'm not sure of the parent's reasons, the underlying point that people get what their 'family computer kid' recommends them is not too far off. If they can't fix it, they aren't likely to recommend it, and if they aren't using it (the reason why doesn't really matter), that holds a lot of weight with somebody that doesn't know anything about the different operating systems. They want to use what you are using.
No, I don't think so. I think most people get what they've used at work, or what comes preloaded on their computer, and what runs all the applications they want to run. Or maybe you missed all the
I don't know, I am honestly worried about where that court ruling could take us. Technically speaking they are not "breaking" anything. They are simply crafting and sending out packets. Do we really want a world where our packets can become illegal weapons?
Do you really want a world where I can send packets to interupt a service you are paying for? Where DDOSes are legal?
Think about it, if you are off somewhere, doing "whatever" and you do say ARP posioning to help in your "whatever" you could of just commited a crime! Right now you can say "Screw of cop, its my network you can go to hell." but if we start telling Comcast don't send out these packets, it could be a very slipperly slope.
Your right to do "whatever" ends when it interferes with someone else's right to do ligitimate "whatever."
The other thing to keep in mind is that we pay Comcast to basically lease time/energy on there networks. I understand that they interchange with other networks, but it is still there networks.
That's what this lawsuit would have to be about; they are violating the contract entered into when you signed up for the service. You can say they have a right to change their network, but they can't without giving you warning and telling you upfront they intend to do so. They also have to let you backout of the contract without penalty. Even a clause saying they can block whatever they want would not be held up; its too vauge, and gives them too much power in the contract.
If anything this is a contract dispute, not the worlds end.
If you let big corps screw you, it does become a serious threat to our way of life. Basically you're saying any large entity can do whatever they want, without consequence, and we have to suck it up. Even though the whole idea behind corporations is that they ARE supposed to serve some public good.
That being said, I hate the bastards too. Frigen making me go to there office because the last person who had my apartment had late payments.. so I have to take an ID down and a copy of my lease. Assholes. I'll just keep stealing internet from folks near by, and downloading movies. TAKE THAT COMCAST. EAT IT.
However you want to rationalize stealing from your neighbors. Screwing comcast by screwing your neighbors isn't exactly the heroic thing to do...
Hmm.. do you tell your friends, family or clients that you're not using it because you can't steal it yet? Or do you leave that part out?
I imagine it wouldn't scare them at all if you told them the full truth. Nobody is going to NOT buy a car because you can't steal it..
Right, because I bought a computer to NOT use its available resources. I want them to sit there idle.
Um, excuse me? How will having this information have an impact one way or the other on air safety? I doubt it would have any impact whatsoever. It COULD impact how much people fly, if they are unreasonably scared. Personally, that's a larger problem than anything else; people irrationally getting scared over every little thing. I'd rather they calm down and think clearly.. then we also wouldn't be throwing rights away for "security."
How long it take to create a disk with Forefox versus a disk with just Windows? As I said earlier, maybe you missed it, if I had had a ghost disk it would have saved me hours reinstalling Windows. And because tyme is money those hours could be put to better use.
You don't get it, still. They don't just create a ghost with Windows. They add in all their other apps as well that are standard. Then it takes quite a bit of time to create the image, and reload the image without a browser to install one, then more time to create another image. I ghosted my 120GB HD, it took a few HOURS to do so. Not to mention prep time (zeroing out the empty part of the disk so that it would compress better).
No I'm not out of school, and I never will be. If you mean high school, I graduated many years ago. Or do you mean college? Though I don't have a BA or BS I got my AA years ago as well. Have I worked in the real world? Not only did I serve in the US Army but I worked part time jobs while in college then full time in construction for a few years.
I can only wonder what you're major was. Your jobs didn't seem to require any critical thinking though, which seems to be what you were missing in this discussion. Perhaps you also lack experience in computers? I don't know, but I have ghosted quite a few times and it takes a non-trivial amount of time.
Sorry I made a mistake, however your condescending attitude, "You're not out of school yet, are you?" doesn't help. If instead you had simply pointed out where I was wrong it would of been better. I wonder if you have an excuse for your attitude, I have an excuse for my bad memory, I am a survivor of a Traumatic Brain Injury, TBI. I wonder how you would do with one. Maybe I should just roll over and die, well after I came out of a coma I was in my sister said that I screamed at everyone to just let me die. Unfortunately they didn't.
First, you should check the thread history to see who started with an attitude. Second, I'm not going to give sympathy to someone because they didn't know what they were talking about. Apparently your memory is good enough to get onto slashdot, check your user page for replies and remember the injury you suffer. Finally, when someone does show a lack of critical thinking and experience, it DOES stand to reason that person is a child or not yet in the real world. So while you take that question in a condosending manner, I was actually serious when I asked it.
Indeed. The FBI was corrupt from day one. Anyone that's done just a bit of digging in historical accounts can tell you that.
Sounds like half the drivers on the road: ignore traffic lights and turn indicators, drift through crosswalks on red lights, don't stop at 4 way stops or understand right of way, etc.
Not half, at least where I am. And I doubt where you are too; if half of all drivers ran red lights, there'd be serious problems. I grew up in Philly, so I also have plenty of experience with crowded cities.
Here though, 99% of all bikes I ever see as a matter of routine run all stop signs and red lights. I wish I were excaggerating, but I'm not. I didn't see this, even in and around Philly.
Again, I could be wrong, but I believe stock can only cover what's in the US, if the stock is being held in the US.
I think if women are equal to men, they certainly can pay for their own meal. Or does equal mean they get special treatment?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but how will affect Microsoft Inc., in the US, or Microsoft's European headquarters? I would think the latter.
Yes, in the dead of winter. And by running all the stop signs / traffic signals, choosing sidewalk or road, whichever is more convient, and by NOT following the clearly marked bike paths (with stops signs when you come to ramps to Interstates).
Sorry, dealing with bikers as I do up here, I want to BAN them from use any anything but dedicated bike paths. They just don't follow the rules, and do whatever they want.
Only if you're doing to work in one of those hippy grocery stores. Otherwise, its not an option to arrive at work sweaty.
Maybe you should look a little harder. From my comment here.
That says tyme not cost, now you could say tyme is cost but then I replied you could ghost image the drive which does not add a significant amount of tyme.
It does take time to create the additional images. You need to pay someone to do another clean install, then install the second browser, run the imaging program (tying up resources that could be used elsewhere). Perhaps you've never heard of the saying 'time is money.' Using the image isn't the issue, its creating the image, and yes, there is a cost assoiated with the time to create an image.
Ghosting hard disk drives actually saves tyme, and money, by eliminating the need to install Windows and any apps included on every drive by hand. There were tymes I would have loved a drive image as I spent hours a bunch of tymes reinstalling just Windows. With a ghost image all I would of had to do is remove the old hdd and install the ghost. Five minutes to exchange drives then maybe the rest of the hour to bootup the PC and make sure things are good to go. It would have saved me a lot of tyme.
In production; to make the ghost image (now three, one for each browser) does take time. By offering more ghosting images, you need to spend TIME up front to make the image. It's a cost.
If you can't understand the above I think you're the one who's dense.
You're not out of school yet, are you? Have you never worked in the real world?
Again, where did you say anything about "COST" before this post I am replying to now. Maybe you thought you mentioned it but I don't see where you actually did.
Well I spelt out exactly where I used the word cost. Followed by a statement that incidates more costs (more support calls to an OEM = more COST to run the support center). I'm sorry if I didn't spell it out in big bold letters for you, most people could figure out that these options all cost the OEMs something. Something they DO NOT recoup in any way. As I said, you seem to be dense.
Ya they do. They also offer a lot more than five different lines of PCs, and they already include quite a few options for software. Nobody said it was a space is, IT'S A FUCKING COST ISSUE. My god you are dense. How much money would it make them to offer a choice of browser? Zero. How much more HDs do they now need to buy, install, maintain, update, inventory, etc? Its not like they just let them lie on the floor and run cables to them.. they also need to be housed and cooled. So its a cost with no payoff for the OEM.
Seems you need not just to work on your reading comprehension but your geometry as well.
My reading skills are fine; you've posted nothing that indicates I misunderstood you, where you clearly didn't read my post correctly. Now you're throwing out geometry, AGAIN missing the point. In case you still have not gotten it, IT'S ABOUT COST, with absolutely ZERO return.
You assume people keep it on the same key chain as their car keys. You also assume people have a fob at all.
It not called key because it unlocks something, its called key because it goes on your key chain.
I never said to limit choice. If IE comes pre-installed, you're unable to use FireFox? You still have the choice.
As far as storage goes, I was refering to the actual storing of the ghost image, which means you have to image the ENTIRE disk, because only 1% of it is changed because IE or FF was installed. Unless you know of some ghosting program that can 'fill in the blanks' so that you don't need to store the entire disk image.
Perhaps you need to work on your reading comprehension.
I really hate when people reply like that, because you are absolutely right. I hate comcast, and would sooner spit on one of their employees dying on the side of the road as help them, but unfortunately many people don't have a choice.
Unconscionable? Is that illegal? I thought most publically traded companies where Unconscionable.
Yes. If a contract is found to be too greatly one-sided, parts or all of it can be thrown out in a court. Which is why many of these 'binding arbitration' clauses have been thrown out recently.
As a landlord, you most certainly can put restictions on what types of activities are acceptable in / on your properties.
Right. Just like you can say that the tennat no invite black people in. Or have gay sex. Or get DishTV installed. Oh, wait...
Wow, up to 10 MB now? I know in my area they raised it to 10 as well, but its still not as good. I never got their max speed anyway, and it was async. I'll still with my 8MP up and down.