Or are people online because you can meet a lot of girls you normally wouldn't meet? You can talk to quite a few at a time, and meet them. I know lots of people like that.
They actually discussed this on the Linux Kernel Mailing List and decided bast on the experience of having plugable IO Schedulers that all you do is you end up with several different specialized schedulers that excel at their own niche thing, and no end users have a CLUE which they really need for their task.
Huh? Anyone that supports that view is just an idiot. We ALREADY have a scheduler that works for most cases. Creating a pluggable scheduler would somehow make that one vanish? No one would use it? Utter bullshit, especially if its the default scheduler.
They want to go with a single scheduler in mainline to that one can perform the best in pretty much all cases, instead of creating a new one for each obscure niche and no one really knowing whats best for their usage.
I'd like a scheduler optimized to handle tasks on my desktop, not one that is a bit slower because it covers 'most other cases' too.
No one has provided any evidence that it is better for desktop stuff, the current/new scheduler has included a lot of patches which fix all the old problems it may have had. People are bitching because they have no lives and love to bitch, controversy gives meaning to their lives probably.
Another poster has already responded to this, so I won't.
And his scheduler was rejected because he was not a good developer in Linus's view. Writing the code is in some ways a minor part of what a developer has to do on such a large project and Linux didn't think this guy handle it.
Ohhh.. so a good technical piece of code is rejected because Linus doesn't approve of some other developer's aspects. Great. Just what we need, politics interfering with technical solutions.
My understanding is that the excluded scheduler actually was a lot better for a desktop experience. The author even when so far as to rework it so that the scheduler is a pluggable item. Seems to me that would be a good thing, as we could use each and see which one actually performs better.
And none of that would have happened if the police didn't try to force him to move. If the politician didn't want to answer, he could simply have left. He actually stated he would be willing to answer the question as well, so the police (and event organizer) should have taken his cue.
So, if I stand outside your bedroom window all night beating trashcan lids together, you should have no recourse?
There are several actions to take; I can get you on trespassing, or violating the noise ordinence. See, there's a difference between a blanket "officer says you're distrubing the police, so you are" and those two laws. They're also initiated at my behest, not the cop just walking by.
Or, if you hold a seminar, and I decide to disrupt it continually, you should have no recourse?
Again, trespass comes to mind.
If an officer DOES find that you're disturbing the peace, should it be up to YOU to determine whether that's true or not?
Ahh, now you see the subtle difference. The problem is the officer, having such a blanket law, WILL abuse it. I could call someone a jerk, and potentally be arrested. Should that be allowed, because you think up other annoying behavior?
Should I be able to enter a venue where your candidate is talking, and just stand there all day shouting him down?
If you do that, you can be expected to be asked to leave. If police need be involved, they can do so at the property owner's behest, for trespassing.
I want freedom for everyone, which is why I don't want such "discression" in the hands of the government. There is no need for a blanket law where basically the officer says you've violated it, and that's the end of the story. We already have ways to deal with such problems, we don't need to hand police unfettered power.
Anyway, this story is about a politician, speaking at a PUBLIC university, with the politician stating he wouldn't mind answering, and the police deciding he was a problem, even though the politican saying he wanted to answer.
There was no need for this given the situation, and if the politican didn't want to answer the question, he could certainly leave without doing so.
Yes, because the HD DRM restrictions didn't come from HDDVD or BluRay standards. MS totally made their own. And because something was proclaimed a standard, it must be totally flawless and no one should compete to make a better protocol! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to delete all the spam from forged addresses in my mailbox.
He probably deserved to be Tasered because he was resisting arrest, but he didn't deserve to be taken away from the mic.
See, I have a problem with that. There is nothing wrong with resisting arrest when you've not done anything wrong. An officer saying "you were distribing the peace" doesn't cut it; this is supposed to be a free society, were we CANNOT be arrested at whim.
Distrubing the peace, and resisting an officer? Two of the most BS "crimes" on record in this country. I really don't think he planned on getting arrested or tased.
Because you're so familar with the code in the OS, you're qualified to make this statement.
After all, if they could, why ship with the reduced performance in the first place
To make the system more stable. You see, error collection data they received indicated that sound card drivers were causing a ton of problems with system stability. That means thought that sound must compete with other userland drivers, like networking. Given a choice between sound skipping and slower receive rates on the internal network only, I'd choose the latter.
remember, the network performance reduction was put on place intentionally as a hack to get around other flaws.
Flaws like making the system as a whole more stable?
Also, let's not forget that they also worked on WinFS for years, and still failed to deliver.
Which has nothing to do with the issue you are discussing, and nothing at all with DRM. You seem to think that every research project succeeds. That's not true, in any field. They couldn't get it to pan out yet, so what? Do you really succeed at EVERYTHING you do? No, the STFU.
Also, the article summary attacks Guttman for claiming that HD can't be played over an analog port. Both are wrong here. DRMed HD can currently be played over an analog port because few discs enable the ICT (Image Constraint Token), but it's just a matter of time before the ICT starts getting flipped on and analog outputs start going to half resolution. I've heard rumors that some cable systems enable ICT for all cable content already.
Um, how is this MS' fault though? By building a system to conform to specifications? If you want to blame somebody, blame the studios.
See, you're not thinking about it properly. The free software can go and grab the codecs, illegally, for free. Making the free products work with those purchased from the site linked may not be so easy. It may be, I'm not saying for sure, but given that Dell didn't go that route, I'm leaning toward the latter.
Also, those prices were in GBP, so we're talking about $70. Not terribly much, but then remember if anything goes wrong, Dell is the one that will get a phone call about it.
That I know is a bunch of BS. Windows media player can play DVDs out of the box. I know, I've done it with a vanilla install of XP Pro on my laptop. And that was some years ago.
Have HP and IBM begun to sell Linux on their consumer hardware? I don't see any here, at least not on the side nav where you can filter by OS.
Who knows why ATI opened their spec. Maybe they want free labor, maybe they're trying to win geek favor (you know, those with purchasing power in their companies).
Why? Are licenses for the codecs going to cost Dell more for a Linux machine than a Windows one?
Don't you think with the huge volume discounts Dell gets that this may very well be what is happening?
Somebody (meaning you) still has to pay for the license in that copy of PowerDVD after all.
Dell resells PowerDVD, making a profit. Linux though has nothing to resell, so it would either have to eat the cost, or raise the price (and then hear complaints from Linux zealots that because Linux is free, it should be cheaper than Windows).
Windows machines don't support a lot of standard codecs out-of-the-box either. Just try playing a XviD movie on a stock PC with Windows Media Player. Oh, yeah, I remember, Windows tells me it needs to find the codec, then it fails to do so. And this is easier for a novice user because....?
They support MP3, WMA, WMV, AVI, MPG, etc. though, which hits most I would say. I never said getting the xvid codec would be something an end user would do. I'm not convienced its something an end user would even know about though, because I've only ever seen it for videos which may not be licensed properly.
I've bought a lot of Dell hardware in my career, and in general I'm pretty happy with Dell. But I agree with others here who say they just haven't done the job with their new Linux lines. Why GNOME and not KDE, a much more Windows-like desktop? Why no codecs and other multimedia support? Why no fine-tuning of the touchpad driver if that's an issue? You don't think Dell ignores issues like that when they configure their standard XP or Vista images, do you?
Perhaps because their cost analysis says it would be more than could be recovered. No one has to configure extra codecs for Windows, most of the ones users needs are there. I don't know why they didn't choose KDE, perhaps the distro is a GNOME one? I don't know. As for the touch pad sensitivity, well that is just one guy's opinion. It may be just fine for most.
And, yes, if they're going to sell Linux machines then they damn well need to support them. Does that mean they may not make as much on Linux machines in the short term? Perhaps, since they'll need to build a support staff. In the longer run, they'll discover they're getting a lot fewer support calls per Linux machine than they do for Windows.
You're only guessing about the long term. I'm sure if you had some Linux machines to your typical user they'll have issues with it. I'm also sure they're not going to tell people how to get the codecs "for free" to avoid legal issues.
I'm not saying it'll be easy to sell Linux machines to a mass audience, but it's not impossible. It does require that the OEM put a little effort into it. If Walt there is having troubles with his trackpad, whose fault is that? Hint, it's not Canonical's.
Maybe the cost of said effort outweighs other factors. I don't think they care to start selling Linux at a loss and hope that sales eventually recover those costs. And again, this guy didn't like how the trackpad worked, but its just his opinion.
Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to bundle Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice on those Windows machines you sell either, Mr. Dell.
It seems they don't think it would help though, either.
And then its no longer profitable to sell Linux; not only would they have to pay, they'd have to support it too. You don't call MS with problems regarding your OEM installation, you call Dell.
I'm not ignoring that part, but the fact is that most computers were PCs at the time everyone wanted to get on the internet, and MS provided that to the masses. I very much doubt everyone would have dumped the PC hardware (and software) they invested in if MS had dragged its feet more about getting a browser and tcp/ip into the OS.
I didn't say there was anything special about MS or their products, just that their products DID get a HUGE number of people online.
OS/2 warp wasn't going anywhere though, neither was Linux at that point. It doesn't really matter what either of those OSes had if they weren't being used.
As do I; how many people outside of college students knew what Trumpet Winsock was? That's my point.. a neat toy for universities, but not for the masses.
No. If there had been no Microsoft, someone else would have done that. Maybe Apple, maybe BSD, maybe Linux/GNU/etc, maybe some company we've never heard of. Maybe OS/2 would have taken off.
Don't ignore history; DOS and Windows were the large majority of the market even then. Its doubtful anyone would jump from PC to some propritary and more expensive hardware just to get on the internet. At that point, businesses still didn't know what quite to do with it, and consumers were (likely) draw to the sex sites.
Interesting point of view. Do you think the internet would have gained so much popularity of MS didn't include support for it when it did? Or would it be a neat toy for universities?
Don't discount the fact that a large number of people gained access to the internet because MS put support for it in place.
He seems to like GPL2 though, so I don't think you can call Linus a danger. Its just that he isn't as willing to have developers give up all rights so that the user is better off.. I think he understands the needs for a balance.
Well, one reason would be so that I can see that the bubble next to my choice is actually filled in, and not just some reason dots on a page with no meaning to a human.
Yet you still felt the need to read and post to this story. Quite being a whiney bitch and move on; better yet, finish your geometry homework. There are plenty of stories I just skip over here, its not a big deal. Stupid noobs...
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Or are people online because you can meet a lot of girls you normally wouldn't meet? You can talk to quite a few at a time, and meet them. I know lots of people like that.
They actually discussed this on the Linux Kernel Mailing List and decided bast on the experience of having plugable IO Schedulers that all you do is you end up with several different specialized schedulers that excel at their own niche thing, and no end users have a CLUE which they really need for their task.
Huh? Anyone that supports that view is just an idiot. We ALREADY have a scheduler that works for most cases. Creating a pluggable scheduler would somehow make that one vanish? No one would use it? Utter bullshit, especially if its the default scheduler.
They want to go with a single scheduler in mainline to that one can perform the best in pretty much all cases, instead of creating a new one for each obscure niche and no one really knowing whats best for their usage.
I'd like a scheduler optimized to handle tasks on my desktop, not one that is a bit slower because it covers 'most other cases' too.
No one has provided any evidence that it is better for desktop stuff, the current/new scheduler has included a lot of patches which fix all the old problems it may have had. People are bitching because they have no lives and love to bitch, controversy gives meaning to their lives probably.
Another poster has already responded to this, so I won't.
And his scheduler was rejected because he was not a good developer in Linus's view. Writing the code is in some ways a minor part of what a developer has to do on such a large project and Linux didn't think this guy handle it.
Ohhh.. so a good technical piece of code is rejected because Linus doesn't approve of some other developer's aspects. Great. Just what we need, politics interfering with technical solutions.
My understanding is that the excluded scheduler actually was a lot better for a desktop experience. The author even when so far as to rework it so that the scheduler is a pluggable item. Seems to me that would be a good thing, as we could use each and see which one actually performs better.
And none of that would have happened if the police didn't try to force him to move. If the politician didn't want to answer, he could simply have left. He actually stated he would be willing to answer the question as well, so the police (and event organizer) should have taken his cue.
So, if I stand outside your bedroom window all night beating trashcan lids together, you should have no recourse?
There are several actions to take; I can get you on trespassing, or violating the noise ordinence. See, there's a difference between a blanket "officer says you're distrubing the police, so you are" and those two laws. They're also initiated at my behest, not the cop just walking by.
Or, if you hold a seminar, and I decide to disrupt it continually, you should have no recourse?
Again, trespass comes to mind.
If an officer DOES find that you're disturbing the peace, should it be up to YOU to determine whether that's true or not?
Ahh, now you see the subtle difference. The problem is the officer, having such a blanket law, WILL abuse it. I could call someone a jerk, and potentally be arrested. Should that be allowed, because you think up other annoying behavior?
Should I be able to enter a venue where your candidate is talking, and just stand there all day shouting him down?
If you do that, you can be expected to be asked to leave. If police need be involved, they can do so at the property owner's behest, for trespassing.
I want freedom for everyone, which is why I don't want such "discression" in the hands of the government. There is no need for a blanket law where basically the officer says you've violated it, and that's the end of the story. We already have ways to deal with such problems, we don't need to hand police unfettered power.
Anyway, this story is about a politician, speaking at a PUBLIC university, with the politician stating he wouldn't mind answering, and the police deciding he was a problem, even though the politican saying he wanted to answer.
There was no need for this given the situation, and if the politican didn't want to answer the question, he could certainly leave without doing so.
Yes, because the HD DRM restrictions didn't come from HDDVD or BluRay standards. MS totally made their own. And because something was proclaimed a standard, it must be totally flawless and no one should compete to make a better protocol! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to delete all the spam from forged addresses in my mailbox.
He probably deserved to be Tasered because he was resisting arrest, but he didn't deserve to be taken away from the mic.
See, I have a problem with that. There is nothing wrong with resisting arrest when you've not done anything wrong. An officer saying "you were distribing the peace" doesn't cut it; this is supposed to be a free society, were we CANNOT be arrested at whim.
Distrubing the peace, and resisting an officer? Two of the most BS "crimes" on record in this country. I really don't think he planned on getting arrested or tased.
I find it highly unlikely that they can fix this.
Because you're so familar with the code in the OS, you're qualified to make this statement.
After all, if they could, why ship with the reduced performance in the first place
To make the system more stable. You see, error collection data they received indicated that sound card drivers were causing a ton of problems with system stability. That means thought that sound must compete with other userland drivers, like networking. Given a choice between sound skipping and slower receive rates on the internal network only, I'd choose the latter.
remember, the network performance reduction was put on place intentionally as a hack to get around other flaws.
Flaws like making the system as a whole more stable?
Also, let's not forget that they also worked on WinFS for years, and still failed to deliver.
Which has nothing to do with the issue you are discussing, and nothing at all with DRM. You seem to think that every research project succeeds. That's not true, in any field. They couldn't get it to pan out yet, so what? Do you really succeed at EVERYTHING you do? No, the STFU.
Also, the article summary attacks Guttman for claiming that HD can't be played over an analog port. Both are wrong here. DRMed HD can currently be played over an analog port because few discs enable the ICT (Image Constraint Token), but it's just a matter of time before the ICT starts getting flipped on and analog outputs start going to half resolution. I've heard rumors that some cable systems enable ICT for all cable content already.
Um, how is this MS' fault though? By building a system to conform to specifications? If you want to blame somebody, blame the studios.
See, you're not thinking about it properly. The free software can go and grab the codecs, illegally, for free. Making the free products work with those purchased from the site linked may not be so easy. It may be, I'm not saying for sure, but given that Dell didn't go that route, I'm leaning toward the latter.
Also, those prices were in GBP, so we're talking about $70. Not terribly much, but then remember if anything goes wrong, Dell is the one that will get a phone call about it.
That I know is a bunch of BS. Windows media player can play DVDs out of the box. I know, I've done it with a vanilla install of XP Pro on my laptop. And that was some years ago.
Have HP and IBM begun to sell Linux on their consumer hardware? I don't see any here, at least not on the side nav where you can filter by OS.
Who knows why ATI opened their spec. Maybe they want free labor, maybe they're trying to win geek favor (you know, those with purchasing power in their companies).
Why? Are licenses for the codecs going to cost Dell more for a Linux machine than a Windows one?
Don't you think with the huge volume discounts Dell gets that this may very well be what is happening?
Somebody (meaning you) still has to pay for the license in that copy of PowerDVD after all.
Dell resells PowerDVD, making a profit. Linux though has nothing to resell, so it would either have to eat the cost, or raise the price (and then hear complaints from Linux zealots that because Linux is free, it should be cheaper than Windows).
Windows machines don't support a lot of standard codecs out-of-the-box either. Just try playing a XviD movie on a stock PC with Windows Media Player. Oh, yeah, I remember, Windows tells me it needs to find the codec, then it fails to do so. And this is easier for a novice user because....?
They support MP3, WMA, WMV, AVI, MPG, etc. though, which hits most I would say. I never said getting the xvid codec would be something an end user would do. I'm not convienced its something an end user would even know about though, because I've only ever seen it for videos which may not be licensed properly.
I've bought a lot of Dell hardware in my career, and in general I'm pretty happy with Dell. But I agree with others here who say they just haven't done the job with their new Linux lines. Why GNOME and not KDE, a much more Windows-like desktop? Why no codecs and other multimedia support? Why no fine-tuning of the touchpad driver if that's an issue? You don't think Dell ignores issues like that when they configure their standard XP or Vista images, do you?
Perhaps because their cost analysis says it would be more than could be recovered. No one has to configure extra codecs for Windows, most of the ones users needs are there. I don't know why they didn't choose KDE, perhaps the distro is a GNOME one? I don't know. As for the touch pad sensitivity, well that is just one guy's opinion. It may be just fine for most.
And, yes, if they're going to sell Linux machines then they damn well need to support them. Does that mean they may not make as much on Linux machines in the short term? Perhaps, since they'll need to build a support staff. In the longer run, they'll discover they're getting a lot fewer support calls per Linux machine than they do for Windows.
You're only guessing about the long term. I'm sure if you had some Linux machines to your typical user they'll have issues with it. I'm also sure they're not going to tell people how to get the codecs "for free" to avoid legal issues.
I'm not saying it'll be easy to sell Linux machines to a mass audience, but it's not impossible. It does require that the OEM put a little effort into it. If Walt there is having troubles with his trackpad, whose fault is that? Hint, it's not Canonical's.
Maybe the cost of said effort outweighs other factors. I don't think they care to start selling Linux at a loss and hope that sales eventually recover those costs. And again, this guy didn't like how the trackpad worked, but its just his opinion.
Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to bundle Firefox, Thunderbird, and OpenOffice on those Windows machines you sell either, Mr. Dell.
It seems they don't think it would help though, either.
And then its no longer profitable to sell Linux; not only would they have to pay, they'd have to support it too. You don't call MS with problems regarding your OEM installation, you call Dell.
I'm not ignoring that part, but the fact is that most computers were PCs at the time everyone wanted to get on the internet, and MS provided that to the masses. I very much doubt everyone would have dumped the PC hardware (and software) they invested in if MS had dragged its feet more about getting a browser and tcp/ip into the OS.
I didn't say there was anything special about MS or their products, just that their products DID get a HUGE number of people online.
OS/2 warp wasn't going anywhere though, neither was Linux at that point. It doesn't really matter what either of those OSes had if they weren't being used.
As do I; how many people outside of college students knew what Trumpet Winsock was? That's my point.. a neat toy for universities, but not for the masses.
No. If there had been no Microsoft, someone else would have done that. Maybe Apple, maybe BSD, maybe Linux/GNU/etc, maybe some company we've never heard of. Maybe OS/2 would have taken off.
Don't ignore history; DOS and Windows were the large majority of the market even then. Its doubtful anyone would jump from PC to some propritary and more expensive hardware just to get on the internet. At that point, businesses still didn't know what quite to do with it, and consumers were (likely) draw to the sex sites.
Interesting point of view. Do you think the internet would have gained so much popularity of MS didn't include support for it when it did? Or would it be a neat toy for universities?
Don't discount the fact that a large number of people gained access to the internet because MS put support for it in place.
Yes but with all the people making moves to Linux lately
I keep seeing this comment floated here, I don't see any evidence presented though.
He seems to like GPL2 though, so I don't think you can call Linus a danger. Its just that he isn't as willing to have developers give up all rights so that the user is better off.. I think he understands the needs for a balance.
Well, one reason would be so that I can see that the bubble next to my choice is actually filled in, and not just some reason dots on a page with no meaning to a human.
Yet you still felt the need to read and post to this story. Quite being a whiney bitch and move on; better yet, finish your geometry homework. There are plenty of stories I just skip over here, its not a big deal. Stupid noobs...