While that's one way of looking at it - don't forget the context of fuel economy. Cubs/etc. get, in real life, something very close to the car I mentioned (sure, it's diesel; but OTOH - two stroke / with much less stringent emissions are thing working in Cubs favor); I'm not aware of any 600 pound bike that's near. And considering how such big ones are not particularly graceful, they loose on the motorbike bonuses anyway... (especially if I have a folded bike in the trunk usually)
The solution was actually sort of demonstrated on a much larger scale by Trabant. While its body wasn't produced, I think, from plant oils, it did use plant waste (might as well have been hemp, even if it wasn't ever used); supposedly is edible...
Fear of new competition, period of transformation & loosing control over some market can be all easily greater than the perspective of maybe somewhat lower (& with externalities), but certain, profits (if maintaining present course)
Such expectations are probably because of how those bendable displays were always showed off - as something rollable & paper thin. Yeah, not striking me as practical.
But I suspect their properties will matter most to manufacturers - it will become easy to cover non-flat surfaces with displays and/or to cover most surface area of some device. Oh, with a solid protective cover on top.
More precisely, if the society wants such encroachments it is typically due to some perceived threat / a need to have an eye of potential evildoers (of whatever). Well, so it will adjust itself until it finds them.
Those few hundred people are generally a reflection of the society. From where do you think they originate? What do you think happens with declarations of "common ordinary folks" when a chance to have a slice of the pie emerges?
Too bad so very few will have the chance to teleoperate future moon rovers / robots. I hope anybody doing them will at least put a live stream on the web...
Seing how we have now Schutzstaffel USB - what was above the SS?
(seriously, it will get funny when buying USB gear in Germany - I might do it specifically for this effect after one too many beers in Berlin, some day;) )
And as for Lightpeak - imagine a Beowulf cluster using those!
Your common sense didn't evolve to deal with relativistic effects (or, say, quantum ones). They weren't a factor influencing survival in the environment of your ancestors.
On the contrary - seeing time, space, causality and simultaneousness in simplified, but locally useful way was such a factor.
Don't you feel any terror apart from fascination?;p
Omnipotent observers very much don't appear to be part of our world. Heck, "omnipotence" would throw basically whole of (also) relativity out the window, so if insist on looking at it with such an approach...
The pole doesn't just appear to be shorter, it's not an illusion - it is shorter. It can be, thanks to "simultaneous" losing a bit of its meaning. Also regarding your comment @Lorentz, learn vector addition...
PS. If you think that relativity gives wrong conclusions, then you also must claim that gold is silver (like pretty much any metal), not yellow - that's a relativistic effect. You also don't believe GPS coordinates - after all, they have corrections because of effects of relativity, and if they are wrong... And so on.
That's nice within our system. Doesn't help with interstellar much (antimatter rocket likewise; though this one at least gives some possibilities - when talking about nearest systems & still not the way people would hope for; but hey, a probe taking just two or three human lifetimes to get there and embryo ship taking just a millenium is at least something workable)
Yeah, I'm still trying not to push depressive realism too much;) - especially when journeys in the range of dozens or hundreds of thousands of years can be pretty much dismissed - apart from a basic problem of preventing any container from leaking everything stored inside, there's also the issue of finding motivation for such monumental project & allowing resource drain on the system. And why I suspect elsewhere how perhaps embryo colonization could be workable; or probably simply an organic spread towards Oort cloud over many millenia, ever further, untill some humans will make a relatively easy jump to cloud of some nearby star.
Seeing in what style the moon landings were performed / how they ended, I don't think striving for similar approach of "exciting" & "capturing our collective attention the way landing on the moon did" would be a good thing...
Especially since we shouldn't expect any new physics (which would be required; "hope for" - sure, why not...but not "expect"). Without it (a strong possibility), any means of travel won't be very palatable to hopes of popular imagination of most of humanity. Moonshot had it easy, by comparison - the goal, when seriously stated, could be reasonably expected to be achieved withing a generation or two; the travel itself taking on the order of one week.
Interstellar reality is quite different when talking about plausible approaches, with technology at least probably within our reach. Quite possibly nobody alive at launch (and providing virtually all of the funding & resources...) will see returns even from small & fast unmanned probe launched to even the nearest systems. Resource and energy limits might also mean that any colonization will be via relativelly small and fast autonomous embryo ships (perhaps, apart from robots, also with a very small grown human team in hibernation, to get the colony going; doesn't change much) - at least with such approach there's some chance of launching one regularly, every few decades; hopefully at least "this will be our children" can work, because travel time of minimum few centuries won't work in favor of many types of motivation... Or we'll just take our time to spread to Oort cloud over many millenia, and at some point some of our descendants will make a relatively easy "jump" thanks to Oort clouds of passing stars sort of intersecting...
Actually, the most distant discovered is 20k light years away, and near the center of Mily Way to boot (so not really a case of local conditions; actually, the conditions might be better there, with higher metallicity); with a possible detection also in the Andromeda Galaxy and even in YGKOW G1, 3.7 billion light years away.
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Some suppliers would be a greater one, if it was mostly a cost of doing business.
While that's one way of looking at it - don't forget the context of fuel economy. Cubs/etc. get, in real life, something very close to the car I mentioned (sure, it's diesel; but OTOH - two stroke / with much less stringent emissions are thing working in Cubs favor); I'm not aware of any 600 pound bike that's near. And considering how such big ones are not particularly graceful, they loose on the motorbike bonuses anyway... (especially if I have a folded bike in the trunk usually)
How quickly people forget...
Hm, red glowing ones should be doable already...not sure how great of an idea that would be ;)
Not much crazier than ordinary contact lenses, I'd guess. And as for crazy reactions...you don't need corneal display for that.
How basically the same thing but with helluva harder procedure of replacement would be more efficient?
The solution was actually sort of demonstrated on a much larger scale by Trabant. While its body wasn't produced, I think, from plant oils, it did use plant waste (might as well have been hemp, even if it wasn't ever used); supposedly is edible...
Fear of new competition, period of transformation & loosing control over some market can be all easily greater than the perspective of maybe somewhat lower (& with externalities), but certain, profits (if maintaining present course)
Such expectations are probably because of how those bendable displays were always showed off - as something rollable & paper thin. Yeah, not striking me as practical.
But I suspect their properties will matter most to manufacturers - it will become easy to cover non-flat surfaces with displays and/or to cover most surface area of some device. Oh, with a solid protective cover on top.
Contact lenses with integrated display. I'm overdue with augmenting myself already...
More precisely, if the society wants such encroachments it is typically due to some perceived threat / a need to have an eye of potential evildoers (of whatever). Well, so it will adjust itself until it finds them.
Pointing at "authorities" doesn't really help...
Those few hundred people are generally a reflection of the society. From where do you think they originate? What do you think happens with declarations of "common ordinary folks" when a chance to have a slice of the pie emerges?
Too bad so very few will have the chance to teleoperate future moon rovers / robots. I hope anybody doing them will at least put a live stream on the web...
So you imply using the proper name of the technology, "SS USB", will be so funny?
Seing how we have now Schutzstaffel USB - what was above the SS?
(seriously, it will get funny when buying USB gear in Germany - I might do it specifically for this effect after one too many beers in Berlin, some day ;) )
And as for Lightpeak - imagine a Beowulf cluster using those!
Your common sense didn't evolve to deal with relativistic effects (or, say, quantum ones). They weren't a factor influencing survival in the environment of your ancestors.
On the contrary - seeing time, space, causality and simultaneousness in simplified, but locally useful way was such a factor.
Don't you feel any terror apart from fascination? ;p
Omnipotent observers very much don't appear to be part of our world. Heck, "omnipotence" would throw basically whole of (also) relativity out the window, so if insist on looking at it with such an approach...
The pole doesn't just appear to be shorter, it's not an illusion - it is shorter. It can be, thanks to "simultaneous" losing a bit of its meaning. Also regarding your comment @Lorentz, learn vector addition...
PS. If you think that relativity gives wrong conclusions, then you also must claim that gold is silver (like pretty much any metal), not yellow - that's a relativistic effect. You also don't believe GPS coordinates - after all, they have corrections because of effects of relativity, and if they are wrong...
And so on.
Of course the candidates of Kepler should be typically in the distances of hundreds and thousands of light years...
Geosync is a bit over 0.1 s away...
That's nice within our system. Doesn't help with interstellar much (antimatter rocket likewise; though this one at least gives some possibilities - when talking about nearest systems & still not the way people would hope for; but hey, a probe taking just two or three human lifetimes to get there and embryo ship taking just a millenium is at least something workable)
So why the "whoosh" at impulse power?
This one also applies here, in a way...
Yeah, I'm still trying not to push depressive realism too much ;) - especially when journeys in the range of dozens or hundreds of thousands of years can be pretty much dismissed - apart from a basic problem of preventing any container from leaking everything stored inside, there's also the issue of finding motivation for such monumental project & allowing resource drain on the system. And why I suspect elsewhere how perhaps embryo colonization could be workable; or probably simply an organic spread towards Oort cloud over many millenia, ever further, untill some humans will make a relatively easy jump to cloud of some nearby star.
Seeing in what style the moon landings were performed / how they ended, I don't think striving for similar approach of "exciting" & "capturing our collective attention the way landing on the moon did" would be a good thing...
Especially since we shouldn't expect any new physics (which would be required; "hope for" - sure, why not...but not "expect"). Without it (a strong possibility), any means of travel won't be very palatable to hopes of popular imagination of most of humanity. Moonshot had it easy, by comparison - the goal, when seriously stated, could be reasonably expected to be achieved withing a generation or two; the travel itself taking on the order of one week.
Interstellar reality is quite different when talking about plausible approaches, with technology at least probably within our reach. Quite possibly nobody alive at launch (and providing virtually all of the funding & resources...) will see returns even from small & fast unmanned probe launched to even the nearest systems. Resource and energy limits might also mean that any colonization will be via relativelly small and fast autonomous embryo ships (perhaps, apart from robots, also with a very small grown human team in hibernation, to get the colony going; doesn't change much) - at least with such approach there's some chance of launching one regularly, every few decades; hopefully at least "this will be our children" can work, because travel time of minimum few centuries won't work in favor of many types of motivation...
Or we'll just take our time to spread to Oort cloud over many millenia, and at some point some of our descendants will make a relatively easy "jump" thanks to Oort clouds of passing stars sort of intersecting...
Actually, the most distant discovered is 20k light years away, and near the center of Mily Way to boot (so not really a case of local conditions; actually, the conditions might be better there, with higher metallicity); with a possible detection also in the Andromeda Galaxy and even in YGKOW G1, 3.7 billion light years away.