I'm surprised I'd have to convince anyone here that "judging by the market" is a horrible, horrible metric.
But other than that...you're wrong.
From what I see around majority of people simply hate touchpads/use mouse if they can (going sometimes to absurd levels: trying to use a mouse on a smooth surface next to touchpad with laptop on their lap/outside; yes, I witnessed it)
They DON'T KNOW there is a third option. Most of them, given a chance to try it (and beeing aware that you have to give it some time to adjust) at least like it a lot more than touchpad.
Accidentally, from what I see around, people NOT having a mouse attached at all times when their laptop is on a desk/etc. are very often Thinkpad users.
You don't mention that explicitly in your post, but I guess you prefer to run other distributed computing projects, the ones with "more tangible benefits".
But consider...most of them are functionin thanks to BOINC infrastructure developed by...SETI@home, and also they got on the bandwagon of distributed computing after the idea was hugely popularised by...SETI@home.
So perhaps S@h gave some tangible benefits after all?...
I'd guess the thrusters are used only during final touchdown to soften the landing...JUST LIKE SOYUZ DOES (and if they fail, the touchdown will simply be a little rough...JUST LIKE IN SOYUZ)
Yes, I'd guess also mostly inertia plus it never had true PR campaign behind it.
It's interesting to ponder possible reasons why in certain countries Opera is really quite big...
Poland IE - 52% Firefox - 41% Opera - 7%
Czech Republic IE - 64% Firefox - 31% Opera - 4%
Ukraine IE - 55% Opera - 26% Firefox - 18% (yes, Opera is the leading alternative browser)
Lithuania IE - 63% FF - 29% Opera - 8%
Hungary IE - 57% Firefox - 38% Opera - 2%
Now, when you live here and see those numbers...it's quite apparent that browser stats are somewhat related to overall socioeconomic situation in each country - generally Czech Republic and Hungary would be more "west like" in this regard, Ukraine far behind, while Poland and Lithuania somewhere in between.
And this would influence what/when people buy when it comes to hardware that runs their software. Yes, Ukraine would be quite a bit "behind" in this regard - my roommate was from there, and from what he told me dial-up is still dominating, and also his PC, around 1GHz and 256MB of RAM, was rather typical...
And that might be it: when it comes to searching for alternative browsers, roughly the same percentage of people do that in each of those countries (with the exception of "more west-like" economies, I'll get back to that later), HOWEVER Opera is much better when it comes to running on slow machines. "Unfortunatelly" this situation won't get better, long-term, for Opera...
Rampant piracy might also help Opera where it's percentage is rather high - some "PC geek" usually has to set up WindowsXP for somebody from time to time, and he's not only more likely to suggest alternative browser but also knows from the start that Opera does better on slow machines. But this factor doesn't come into play in more mature markets, where people are more likely to simply buy the new machine with whole package and they're set.
And generally people in "left behind" markets are less likelly to be influenced by PR stunts, the ones from Mozilla for example. Network of friends is more important when deciding.
If you saw something more in the data, let us now...
PS. One hope for Opera that I see is profileation of "minilatops" - their slow CPUs and small amounts of RAM should make Opera strengts particularly visible (plus it has rather nice working "fit to width" function). Not sure how long that'll work though, I see they're starting to get more CPU/RAM than my main machine...
In contrast, FF in some situation behaves like Mozilla, and in some like Opera...yeah, I can see how's that usable...
(and btw, Opera way works great once you have a lot of tabs; then again, Opera actually remains usable when you open few dozen of them. Or a hundred. Or two.)
Opera way of controlling Flash works much, much better for the type of adds/(useless) info bits that are common here - floating area above main webpage. In Opera you can simply turn the Flash off (with a whitelist, like I do) and that's it. Flashblock in FF ends up showing translucent area through which clicks won't pass/clicking it loads flash.
Any interrogators worth anything will image the partition/files.
And there's no such thing as torture proof - whether they'll get the info or not doesn't depend on you. The only thing that will influence the outcome is determination of your interrogators (and if they are determined enough you WILL gave in).
The only thing you have control over is how long it'll take, which is inverselly proportional to the amount of physical and emotional trauma you'll end up with.
The best way is to prevent them from getting suspicious. And that means accesing valuable data over the net in anonymous fashion once you're there, or keeping them in encrypted container BUT ALSO keeping the container on something that's easy to hide/dispose, like a microSD card.
1) Well, yes, but you were talking about Symbian. S40 isn't Symbian, it's...limited/lower resource interface for low-end phones.
2) You can also self sign.
3) I'm not sure how something much better than original apps counts as second class citizen. But what do you mean by replace? Well, I can't delete the original ones, but the new ones can take over button shortcuts, operate on the same db of messages/contacts and so on.
Your SMS app would be possible since you have acces to messages db kept on the phone. Not sure what you mean about dialer screen app...
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Oh I don't know...supposedly certain properties of Symbian make phones as cheap as E50 possible.
So perhaps - S40 for lowend, S60 in the middle and Qtopia for highend?
Wait, wait, so beeing closed is OK in case of Safari but not with Opera? (yes, yes, Webkit is open - but Safari itself isn't so you're not shure what it's doing under the hood anyway + runs only on proprietary OSes)
I think that parent poster frustration comes mostly from the thing that a lot of people give credit for those features to Firefox. And its PR machine doesn't exactly clear this thing up.
For me - avoiding websides that mostly just want to shovel commercialls at me works fine. And I absolutelly can't live without one that does this, content blocking function in Opera suffices.
BTW, you do know that Opera has greasemonkey functionality also built in? Adn there's supposedly some nice developer tool out with 9.5...
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So...what happens when there is a second, hidden camera?
Not really, I'm afraid - Macs are almost nonexistant in my country ;P (and when my buddy uses his Macbook on the desk, he has mouse attached)
I'm surprised I'd have to convince anyone here that "judging by the market" is a horrible, horrible metric.
But other than that...you're wrong.
From what I see around majority of people simply hate touchpads/use mouse if they can (going sometimes to absurd levels: trying to use a mouse on a smooth surface next to touchpad with laptop on their lap/outside; yes, I witnessed it)
They DON'T KNOW there is a third option. Most of them, given a chance to try it (and beeing aware that you have to give it some time to adjust) at least like it a lot more than touchpad.
Accidentally, from what I see around, people NOT having a mouse attached at all times when their laptop is on a desk/etc. are very often Thinkpad users.
You don't mention that explicitly in your post, but I guess you prefer to run other distributed computing projects, the ones with "more tangible benefits".
But consider...most of them are functionin thanks to BOINC infrastructure developed by ...SETI@home, and also they got on the bandwagon of distributed computing after the idea was hugely popularised by...SETI@home.
So perhaps S@h gave some tangible benefits after all?...
But Soyuz DOES include thrusters for softer touchdown... (which is simply a little rough when they fail)
I'd guess the thrusters are used only during final touchdown to soften the landing...JUST LIKE SOYUZ DOES (and if they fail, the touchdown will simply be a little rough...JUST LIKE IN SOYUZ)
Yes, I'd guess also mostly inertia plus it never had true PR campaign behind it.
It's interesting to ponder possible reasons why in certain countries Opera is really quite big...
Poland
IE - 52%
Firefox - 41%
Opera - 7%
Czech Republic
IE - 64%
Firefox - 31%
Opera - 4%
Ukraine
IE - 55%
Opera - 26%
Firefox - 18%
(yes, Opera is the leading alternative browser)
Lithuania
IE - 63%
FF - 29%
Opera - 8%
Hungary
IE - 57%
Firefox - 38%
Opera - 2%
Now, when you live here and see those numbers...it's quite apparent that browser stats are somewhat related to overall socioeconomic situation in each country - generally Czech Republic and Hungary would be more "west like" in this regard, Ukraine far behind, while Poland and Lithuania somewhere in between.
And this would influence what/when people buy when it comes to hardware that runs their software. Yes, Ukraine would be quite a bit "behind" in this regard - my roommate was from there, and from what he told me dial-up is still dominating, and also his PC, around 1GHz and 256MB of RAM, was rather typical...
And that might be it: when it comes to searching for alternative browsers, roughly the same percentage of people do that in each of those countries (with the exception of "more west-like" economies, I'll get back to that later), HOWEVER Opera is much better when it comes to running on slow machines. "Unfortunatelly" this situation won't get better, long-term, for Opera...
Rampant piracy might also help Opera where it's percentage is rather high - some "PC geek" usually has to set up WindowsXP for somebody from time to time, and he's not only more likely to suggest alternative browser but also knows from the start that Opera does better on slow machines. But this factor doesn't come into play in more mature markets, where people are more likely to simply buy the new machine with whole package and they're set.
And generally people in "left behind" markets are less likelly to be influenced by PR stunts, the ones from Mozilla for example. Network of friends is more important when deciding.
If you saw something more in the data, let us now...
PS. One hope for Opera that I see is profileation of "minilatops" - their slow CPUs and small amounts of RAM should make Opera strengts particularly visible (plus it has rather nice working "fit to width" function). Not sure how long that'll work though, I see they're starting to get more CPU/RAM than my main machine...
In contrast, FF in some situation behaves like Mozilla, and in some like Opera...yeah, I can see how's that usable...
(and btw, Opera way works great once you have a lot of tabs; then again, Opera actually remains usable when you open few dozen of them. Or a hundred. Or two.)
Opera way of controlling Flash works much, much better for the type of adds/(useless) info bits that are common here - floating area above main webpage. In Opera you can simply turn the Flash off (with a whitelist, like I do) and that's it. Flashblock in FF ends up showing translucent area through which clicks won't pass/clicking it loads flash.
Skype has video support across all platforms.
Sounds like you'd be ok in most of Europe ;P (and not "even", but...especially small towns)
Any interrogators worth anything will image the partition/files.
And there's no such thing as torture proof - whether they'll get the info or not doesn't depend on you. The only thing that will influence the outcome is determination of your interrogators (and if they are determined enough you WILL gave in).
The only thing you have control over is how long it'll take, which is inverselly proportional to the amount of physical and emotional trauma you'll end up with.
The best way is to prevent them from getting suspicious. And that means accesing valuable data over the net in anonymous fashion once you're there, or keeping them in encrypted container BUT ALSO keeping the container on something that's easy to hide/dispose, like a microSD card.
uhmmm...duh, I really didn't need the first one explained ;P
(thx)
Because Diablo2 still has a firm graps on the one I rent from it currently.
I guess that means I need to go looking for some big red crystals in real life...preferably in Russia O_o
Seriously, I'm not sure if I want D3 to come out ASAP or...a long time from now. My heart will be torn if I'll have to choose between 2 & 3...
Since English is my 3rd language (and that comes with lack of familiarity with slang/acronyms)...would you care to explain? :>
Yeah, you can self-sign apps already.
Although Germans would have a hard time understanding them anyway ;P
1) Well, yes, but you were talking about Symbian. S40 isn't Symbian, it's...limited/lower resource interface for low-end phones.
2) You can also self sign.
3) I'm not sure how something much better than original apps counts as second class citizen. But what do you mean by replace? Well, I can't delete the original ones, but the new ones can take over button shortcuts, operate on the same db of messages/contacts and so on.
Your SMS app would be possible since you have acces to messages db kept on the phone. Not sure what you mean about dialer screen app...
Oh I don't know...supposedly certain properties of Symbian make phones as cheap as E50 possible.
So perhaps - S40 for lowend, S60 in the middle and Qtopia for highend?
Thing I don't understand is...many people praising openess of Firefox are using it...on Windows.
Plus: seeing that Opera browser is the ONLY product of Opera inc., they can't afford loosing any trust.
Wait, wait, so beeing closed is OK in case of Safari but not with Opera? (yes, yes, Webkit is open - but Safari itself isn't so you're not shure what it's doing under the hood anyway + runs only on proprietary OSes)
From what I see it's mostly because "works best in IE" was replaced by "in IE & Firefox"... :/
I think that parent poster frustration comes mostly from the thing that a lot of people give credit for those features to Firefox. And its PR machine doesn't exactly clear this thing up.
For me - avoiding websides that mostly just want to shovel commercialls at me works fine. And I absolutelly can't live without one that does this, content blocking function in Opera suffices.
BTW, you do know that Opera has greasemonkey functionality also built in? Adn there's supposedly some nice developer tool out with 9.5...
You mixed up something...
Opera has BOTH features and speed.
Firefox has the capability to add features...which makes it even slower/more prone to crashes.