Good point. It's worth noting that even Mozillatips recommend keeping IE around for Windows Updates and also certain poorly-designed-but-necessary sites, like certain banks.
Incidentally, I keep IE as my 2nd browser at work for testing, and also to use the control panel app on a Cobalt Raq box. Irony, eh?
Getting serious (slightly...) for a minute... I don't feel that "my" generation needs to tell the younger generation that "they lack discipline". That's just passing the buck. It's my generation's responsibility to *provide* discipline - even if that means saying "you can stay up all night surfing pr0n once you leave home/reach 18/run away and join the circus - and not before!
There's a report on the BBC today (sorry, at work, no link) about how British kids are getting less sleep than their parents' generation because so many children have one or more of: TV, PlayStation, PC in their bedroom. I'm in my 30s and can remember being told that "if you don't turn that radio off, you'll lose it." The idea of having a 'net connection in my bedroom boggles my mind.
The problem arises once we move away from putting a cross in a big box. In Scottish elections for the European Parliament it's PR, so you're looking at numbering 1 to 8 next to your favoured candidate, next favoured candidate, etc. It's obviously a great deal harder - and longer - to count ballots once you move away from First Past The Post.
He was Glaswegian (Scottish), so I'd imagine his sons were called Shuggie and Rab. I s'pose you could call it a taxi - no visible horses, but no visibile road tax or insurance either...!
A taxi driver told me recently (so it must be true!) that his two sons were studying to be plumbers: they were lucky to get on the course because the industry did it's best to keep supply low and demand high. I'd certainly consider plumbing, or any similar skill, if my career went south - it's hands-on (maybe too hands-on...), not tied to an office, etc
The EU would never agree to such terms! What, you think we're backward in "old" Europe? We'd want at least 15 copies! And one for our mate Turkey, too!
Compared to other consumer electronics, the res ain't that bad - it's comparable, or slightly better, than the mid-range camcorder I bought early last year.
Sure, it won't turn you into the next Spielberg, but it's certainly better than the old "Hi-8" camera I was using until last April.
You wouldn't have to download a new media player - the Commission are looking at forcing MS to include competitors' players. The point is to give EU consumers a choice.
IIRC, that's basically what the Commission said - right after RealNetworks demonstrated how to strip WMP from the OS. I'm amazed MS even bothered claiming it - I can only surmise that (a) they have non-geek lawyers or, (b) "we tried that lie with IE, and the dumb judge bought it, so let's try it again and see if we befuddle those dumb Euros".
No one's forcing anyone. Several generations ago, my great-great grandfather chose to emigrate from Scotland to New Zealand. He made his decision based on his judgement of the opportunities available in Scotland and elsewhere. Other Scots reached different conclusions. Some emigrated to the USA, to Canada, to Australia and elsewhere. Others remained in Scotland. Since then Scotland has thrived. Bizarrely, I now find myself living in Scotland (albeit pining for New Zealand's climate...)
In summary, you have the choice to look for the remaining jobs in your current industry, retrain, start your own business (all from the comfort of the good ol' USA), or emigrate. Your choice. Create your own dream.
I spent too long at LAX last year, about the time "24" was showing on UK TV. Jet-lagged as I was, everyone I saw looked like terrorists, CTU agents and soon-to-be-written-out-of-the-series-in-a-brutal-f ashion people. Truly scary. I'll reserve judgement on those parts of the USA I've not yet seen, though...
Surely seeing another country is a positive experience. India is, by all accounts (my experience consists of 2 hours in an airport, aged 11) a beautiful country. It seems to me that India would be a fascinating place to work. And with a lower cost-of-living there's always the possibility that you might return home with more money that you'd have had if you stayed.
My dream is to experience as much of the World as I can - I never saw that as being incompatible with the American dream.
Glasgow - or Strathclyde - is a special case: Strathclyde Polis have been running "Operation Blade", an anti-knife campaign, and will harrass anyone they feel like who's carrying a blade - regardless of size. The alcohol-prohibition-thing is just Glasgow, but is no less daft. Both represent an attack on a specific class of Glaswegian, the Ned: a friend of mine remarked that she'd spent the day drinking champagne in a park and the polis hadn't batted an eyelid. Meanwhile she watched young lads being warned off drinking coke ("Whit's that then son? Wine?")
Just to clarify slightly - IE7 doesn't rely on serving up a different stylesheet, but an additional 'sheet. In other words, if you reference IE7 as your first 'sheet, existing stylesheets for compliant browsers will then render OK in IE.
If I've read it right you don't even need to sniff (well, at least not in the old-fasioned, java-script or server-side script sense): it's all done through CSS.
Thanks for the info. From my perspective (opposite side of the globe, rooting for a republic) it looked like the republicans in Parliament lost the campaign themselves - I'm not going to support a system that allows politicians to select the President. Anyway - totally off-topic for me: not a citizen, not a resident! (Kiwi/hobbit, resident in Scotland)
I know! You get some crazy laws when you let people and elected officials make laws. There was one place where the Attorney General demanded that statues be covered to protect public decency. Somewhere else another Attorney General decided to mark his State's secular status by placing religious icons in public buildings. Bizarre, no?
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Good point. It's worth noting that even Mozillatips recommend keeping IE around for Windows Updates and also certain poorly-designed-but-necessary sites, like certain banks.
Incidentally, I keep IE as my 2nd browser at work for testing, and also to use the control panel app on a Cobalt Raq box. Irony, eh?
Getting serious (slightly...) for a minute... I don't feel that "my" generation needs to tell the younger generation that "they lack discipline". That's just passing the buck. It's my generation's responsibility to *provide* discipline - even if that means saying "you can stay up all night surfing pr0n once you leave home/reach 18/run away and join the circus - and not before!
But yeah, back to the humour... I'm just bitter!
Have some pity on us - we were the forgotten generation between "diet-pills" (aka: speed) and "jolt cola" (aka: speed2) ;)
That link in full:
BBC Newsround - for kids! Oh the shame!
Ah, but if we start basing justice on lack-of-smarts, there's no telling who'd end up with what they "deservse" ;)
There's a report on the BBC today (sorry, at work, no link) about how British kids are getting less sleep than their parents' generation because so many children have one or more of: TV, PlayStation, PC in their bedroom. I'm in my 30s and can remember being told that "if you don't turn that radio off, you'll lose it." The idea of having a 'net connection in my bedroom boggles my mind.
The problem arises once we move away from putting a cross in a big box. In Scottish elections for the European Parliament it's PR, so you're looking at numbering 1 to 8 next to your favoured candidate, next favoured candidate, etc. It's obviously a great deal harder - and longer - to count ballots once you move away from First Past The Post.
He was Glaswegian (Scottish), so I'd imagine his sons were called Shuggie and Rab. I s'pose you could call it a taxi - no visible horses, but no visibile road tax or insurance either...!
A taxi driver told me recently (so it must be true!) that his two sons were studying to be plumbers: they were lucky to get on the course because the industry did it's best to keep supply low and demand high. I'd certainly consider plumbing, or any similar skill, if my career went south - it's hands-on (maybe too hands-on...), not tied to an office, etc
that assumes the EU agrees to such terms.
The EU would never agree to such terms! What, you think we're backward in "old" Europe? We'd want at least 15 copies! And one for our mate Turkey, too!
Compared to other consumer electronics, the res ain't that bad - it's comparable, or slightly better, than the mid-range camcorder I bought early last year.
Sure, it won't turn you into the next Spielberg, but it's certainly better than the old "Hi-8" camera I was using until last April.
...and...except that Java already has, like, a bizillion languages under it that can "talk" together.
The list referenced earlier in the thread lists some, but there are "bizillions" (what is that? Like two zillions?) more. Google for them.
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You wouldn't have to download a new media player - the Commission are looking at forcing MS to include competitors' players. The point is to give EU consumers a choice.
IIRC, that's basically what the Commission said - right after RealNetworks demonstrated how to strip WMP from the OS. I'm amazed MS even bothered claiming it - I can only surmise that (a) they have non-geek lawyers or, (b) "we tried that lie with IE, and the dumb judge bought it, so let's try it again and see if we befuddle those dumb Euros".
Sheesh! No appreciation of fine cuisine!
No one's forcing anyone. Several generations ago, my great-great grandfather chose to emigrate from Scotland to New Zealand. He made his decision based on his judgement of the opportunities available in Scotland and elsewhere. Other Scots reached different conclusions. Some emigrated to the USA, to Canada, to Australia and elsewhere. Others remained in Scotland. Since then Scotland has thrived. Bizarrely, I now find myself living in Scotland (albeit pining for New Zealand's climate...)
In summary, you have the choice to look for the remaining jobs in your current industry, retrain, start your own business (all from the comfort of the good ol' USA), or emigrate. Your choice. Create your own dream.
:)
I spent too long at LAX last year, about the time "24" was showing on UK TV. Jet-lagged as I was, everyone I saw looked like terrorists, CTU agents and soon-to-be-written-out-of-the-series-in-a-brutal-f ashion people. Truly scary. I'll reserve judgement on those parts of the USA I've not yet seen, though...
Is it? Really?
Surely seeing another country is a positive experience. India is, by all accounts (my experience consists of 2 hours in an airport, aged 11) a beautiful country. It seems to me that India would be a fascinating place to work. And with a lower cost-of-living there's always the possibility that you might return home with more money that you'd have had if you stayed.
My dream is to experience as much of the World as I can - I never saw that as being incompatible with the American dream.
Sorry, just seen this and replying late.
Glasgow - or Strathclyde - is a special case: Strathclyde Polis have been running "Operation Blade", an anti-knife campaign, and will harrass anyone they feel like who's carrying a blade - regardless of size. The alcohol-prohibition-thing is just Glasgow, but is no less daft. Both represent an attack on a specific class of Glaswegian, the Ned: a friend of mine remarked that she'd spent the day drinking champagne in a park and the polis hadn't batted an eyelid. Meanwhile she watched young lads being warned off drinking coke ("Whit's that then son? Wine?")
Aye... must be getting ready for the 0.9 release ;)
Just to clarify slightly - IE7 doesn't rely on serving up a different stylesheet, but an additional 'sheet. In other words, if you reference IE7 as your first 'sheet, existing stylesheets for compliant browsers will then render OK in IE.
If I've read it right you don't even need to sniff (well, at least not in the old-fasioned, java-script or server-side script sense): it's all done through CSS.
My problem with this patch is its name - it was DoNotUseIE.phoenix, then DoNotUseIE.bird, now - apparently - its DoNotUseIE.patch. Enough already!
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Thanks for the info. From my perspective (opposite side of the globe, rooting for a republic) it looked like the republicans in Parliament lost the campaign themselves - I'm not going to support a system that allows politicians to select the President. Anyway - totally off-topic for me: not a citizen, not a resident! (Kiwi/hobbit, resident in Scotland)
I know! You get some crazy laws when you let people and elected officials make laws. There was one place where the Attorney General demanded that statues be covered to protect public decency. Somewhere else another Attorney General decided to mark his State's secular status by placing religious icons in public buildings. Bizarre, no?