No the phone was collecting data as it needs to. And at no point has anyone shown that any data from the db file on the iPhone has ever been transmitted to Apple. If location services are off nothing can access that data but the AGPS system as required. AGPS for 911 would be useless if it took 10 minutes to get your location.
The key here is there is a difference between AGPS and location services but they use some of the same data.
Oh nos. now the coppers now where cell phone towers are. Wait cant you normally see those from a couple of miles away.
PS I've sat on a jury and listened to testimony from Michigan State Police cell phone experts. Ummm lets just say you need not worry. These guys are just rank amateurs that took a seminar. They have no knowledge of technology what so ever. If anyone that reads Slashdot was arrested based on these guys work has no fear. Anyone here could cross examine these guys into a puddle of goo.
I say Android phones cause your testicles to shrink. My statement is as valid as theirs.
Oh wait no mines more valid as they claimed to discover something real and reputable researches have known (and Written about) for years. And maybe they should have looked in Androids developers references for the exact location of Androids location Cache file.../data/data/com.google.android.location/files/cache.cell &/data/data/com.google.android.location/files/cache.wifi
The fact that these two idiots cant find it doesn't mean its not there. These two brain surgeons "Discovered" a file that all the other researchers already knew was there. Note apps exist to show you this info ON ANDROID PHONES. ALL AGPS phones do this its how they work.
You think everybody's dumb enough to file a motion to suppress right away. You let the cops go out dig up the bodies and collect all the evidence then you file. Everything is excluded. Unless the police can convince a judge the would have eventually looked under his pool with a scanning radar.
They search his phone and find hundreds of pictures young girls both alive and deceased most of them mutilated. Turns out the guy is the biggest serial killer/pedophile history has known.
Guy walks free as the search is ruled illegal as there was no probable cause to believe the phone contained any relevant evidence relating to the drunk driving arrest.
Absolutely not courts have ruled any search beyond what is viewable requires a warrant unless it relates to the crime in question. That is if you robbed a bank they can search for a gun. If your driving without a license they can't search anything.
Use of such a device on motorists would be a clear 4th amendment violation. Courts have ruled that police can only search for items that would relate/be evidence to the crime committed There is little chance your phone data is relavent to an illegal lane change.
Dude Top gear is in Britain. Britain averages 1.1 cars per household. This is why in Britain a car that can do only 90% of your driving is useless. Also the vast majority of british homes do not have garages either again making electrics a poor choice there
One simple test would what they showed have happened if Tesla allowed them to drive until the batteries where depleted. YES. All TG did was illustrate the very true fact that once it runs out of juice you have to wait hours to recharge it. Not a huge factor when driving a leaf 15 miles to work everyday but you don't buy a $100,000+ sports car to drive for an hour at a time.
Jeremy was very correct. In the real world pure electrics just don't work.
So again: Jeremy looking confusedly at the dashboard then cutting to a scene of crew members pushing the Tesla off the track was meant to imply what, exactly? The car didn't need to be pushed and it was never explained why it was.
I was meant to show you what would happen if Tesla wasn't interfering with the testing and prohibiting Top Gear from showing the Car running out of juice. They could have run it down to 0 but weren't allowed too.
I'm sure the expected range whipping one of those high-end sports cars around the track is much less than the official rating too, but you'll never see one of those being pushed back to the hangar...
Nope most of the time when there pointing out a high end exotic's short range it's just left by the roadside as the presenter walks away. Been done many times.
PS stop talking about 'the cloud" like it exists. It's only an abstract concept. Everything is on a real piece of hardware that will fail and controlled by a human that will f*ck up.
Proof This guy has no basis for his claims.(the only similarity between the two articles is the topic covered) The newspaper however does have a rock solid case for Libel.( he accused them of Plagiarism which isn't true(see above)) Dumbass.(see any page on his blog)
Actually that's just his piss poor writing. He quotes them twice showing the changes but on first glance you will think he's comparing his story to theirs. If you read each their isn't a single thing the same but the facts of the story. Note this is the third story the newspaper has done on the Giraffes.
This guy has no basis for his claims. The newspaper however does have a rock solid case for Libel. Dumbass.
This is like claiming someone plagiarized your report on George Washington because they said he was the first president and that was obviously copied from your writings.
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No the phone was collecting data as it needs to. And at no point has anyone shown that any data from the db file on the iPhone has ever been transmitted to Apple. If location services are off nothing can access that data but the AGPS system as required. AGPS for 911 would be useless if it took 10 minutes to get your location.
The key here is there is a difference between AGPS and location services but they use some of the same data.
Oh nos. now the coppers now where cell phone towers are. Wait cant you normally see those from a couple of miles away.
PS I've sat on a jury and listened to testimony from Michigan State Police cell phone experts. Ummm lets just say you need not worry. These guys are just rank amateurs that took a seminar. They have no knowledge of technology what so ever. If anyone that reads Slashdot was arrested based on these guys work has no fear. Anyone here could cross examine these guys into a puddle of goo.
Did you buy a droid?
actually many GPS device do just that.
I say Android phones cause your testicles to shrink. My statement is as valid as theirs.
Oh wait no mines more valid as they claimed to discover something real and reputable researches have known (and Written about) for years. And maybe they should have looked in Androids developers references for the exact location of Androids location Cache file .../data/data/com.google.android.location/files/cache.cell & /data/data/com.google.android.location/files/cache.wifi
and it isn't on iOS either third party apps cannot access it without permission,
The fact that these two idiots cant find it doesn't mean its not there. These two brain surgeons "Discovered" a file that all the other researchers already knew was there. Note apps exist to show you this info ON ANDROID PHONES. ALL AGPS phones do this its how they work.
Oh he does this stuff all the time. And he almost never makes public statements on these kind of issues he lets the PR people do that.
You think everybody's dumb enough to file a motion to suppress right away. You let the cops go out dig up the bodies and collect all the evidence then you file. Everything is excluded. Unless the police can convince a judge the would have eventually looked under his pool with a scanning radar.
Cops pull over a guy for drunk driving.
They search his phone and find hundreds of pictures young girls both alive and deceased most of them mutilated. Turns out the guy is the biggest serial killer/pedophile history has known.
Guy walks free as the search is ruled illegal as there was no probable cause to believe the phone contained any relevant evidence relating to the drunk driving arrest.
Sloppy lazy police work has real consequences.
Absolutely not courts have ruled any search beyond what is viewable requires a warrant unless it relates to the crime in question. That is if you robbed a bank they can search for a gun. If your driving without a license they can't search anything.
Use of such a device on motorists would be a clear 4th amendment violation. Courts have ruled that police can only search for items that would relate/be evidence to the crime committed There is little chance your phone data is relavent to an illegal lane change.
Dude Top gear is in Britain. Britain averages 1.1 cars per household. This is why in Britain a car that can do only 90% of your driving is useless. Also the vast majority of british homes do not have garages either again making electrics a poor choice there
Not going to be discussed in court as Tesla has made no claims in their filing that they are false.
Telsa forbid Top Gear from doing that. They were not allowed to run the batteries out.
I think it is crap that TG didn't actually run the car for 55 miles on its track on a full charge
Well then get pissed at Tesla. They would not allow TG to run the batteries out.
That's because Jeremy Clarkston (JC) is the second coming of Jesus. They have stated that many times on the show.
One simple test would what they showed have happened if Tesla allowed them to drive until the batteries where depleted. YES. All TG did was illustrate the very true fact that once it runs out of juice you have to wait hours to recharge it. Not a huge factor when driving a leaf 15 miles to work everyday but you don't buy a $100,000+ sports car to drive for an hour at a time.
Jeremy was very correct. In the real world pure electrics just don't work.
So again: Jeremy looking confusedly at the dashboard then cutting to a scene of crew members pushing the Tesla off the track was meant to imply what, exactly? The car didn't need to be pushed and it was never explained why it was.
I was meant to show you what would happen if Tesla wasn't interfering with the testing and prohibiting Top Gear from showing the Car running out of juice. They could have run it down to 0 but weren't allowed too.
I'm sure the expected range whipping one of those high-end sports cars around the track is much less than the official rating too, but you'll never see one of those being pushed back to the hangar...
Nope most of the time when there pointing out a high end exotic's short range it's just left by the roadside as the presenter walks away. Been done many times.
What's the matter, you don't have simple extension cord? Where do you live?
Not a lot of outlets in the middle of the highway moron. No matter what you have to push it to an electrical source.
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PS stop talking about 'the cloud" like it exists. It's only an abstract concept. Everything is on a real piece of hardware that will fail and controlled by a human that will f*ck up.
Proof
This guy has no basis for his claims.(the only similarity between the two articles is the topic covered)
The newspaper however does have a rock solid case for Libel.( he accused them of Plagiarism which isn't true(see above))
Dumbass.(see any page on his blog)
Actually that's just his piss poor writing. He quotes them twice showing the changes but on first glance you will think he's comparing his story to theirs. If you read each their isn't a single thing the same but the facts of the story. Note this is the third story the newspaper has done on the Giraffes.
the truth is an absolute defense for Libel and the guy is a Dumbass so i think im ok.
This guy has no basis for his claims. The newspaper however does have a rock solid case for Libel. Dumbass.
This is like claiming someone plagiarized your report on George Washington because they said he was the first president and that was obviously copied from your writings.