I was gonna add the point about complaining about the complaining about anti MS and that at least 10 people would have pointed out the inevitabilty of the course of this thread, but thats just too much typing for me.
Slashdot isn't a court room and its just too much work to cover all my bases, unless of course all my base belong to someone else, in which case I'm screwed anyway.
I agree bitching is infinite, and bitching about bitching is infinite^2
I'm sure it won't be long until this thread degrades into "Bill Gates is taking over my BIOS and I won't be able to install Linux anymore!!! M$ is EVIL!!!11 Linux is t3h 1337!!11".
However I'm sure by the time I actully press submit it will have done just that, but then again that is basicly the theme of every other thread on/.
Am I the only one who thinks that the firefox/bird releases have been getting worse since.7, usability wise at least.
I really dont like the new download manager introduced in.8, mainly because it does not give you the option of executing a file after it has been downloaded. (And I didnt particularly like the name change, though I've gotten used to it) Some may say this is a minor issue, but it is little things like that that will make or break a product.
And with.9 its got an absolutly hideious theme, I dont know a single person (besides a blind person maybe) who could actully say this new theme looks better than the old one without cracking a smile. I at least expected there'd be an option to use the old theme but aparently not (even Windows XP had that feature with the Windows Classic theme) And I might be the only one on slashdot to say this but I really dont care about free/open source liscencing issues, firefox is free, thats all that matters to me. Even the Quete theme for.9 does not look right, the icons look blury and it screws up the menus. So its back to.8 for me as well.
Hopefully the mozilla/firefox developers listen to their users and get these issues fixed before 1.0, cause despite my concerns it is still by far the best browser out there
At the same time, Nintendo was smart enough to design SNES cartridges so they would not fit in a good ol' NES without a hammer. Apple on the other hand left everything the same but the version number and then throws their hands up when someone plugs in an old iPod to new iTunes. Yea they told you so but I thought Apple was in the business of "Software that protects you from your own stupidity"
As for Microsoft, while they certainly value backwards compatibility more than Apple, it isn't complete. For instance can your copy of Win98 read a NTFS formatted external firewire drive?
And I find it annoying that my NES won't play SNES games, what a jip.
ok well I stand mistaken, obvioulsy I've never actully owned an iPod...
Seems that Apple holds a grudge against Windows, and rightly so, but it shouldnt affect their busnisess discisons considering the amount of money they stand too lose if Windows users don't use their product. With all the Windows bashing going on at Apple I wonder how they'd feel if MS decided to stop making Office for OSX.
Somehow I think that if this same problem happend with older iPods on Macs or with older versions of the OS, Apple would be happy to help.
Why is it that every single post in this thread that casts any doubt on Apple is modded as troll or flamebait while anything and everything for them or against Microsoft (which really has no place in this story) gets bonus points. I know slashdot is biased but not that biased.
Face it, Apple has a history of screwing users of their older products. Every significant upgrade to their computer hardware or OS required people to purchase new software. And people wonder why Apple computers aren't that popular. Apple is just lucky they have a fan club that will instantly gobbel up anything that comes out of Steve Job's ass (example, the LSD inspiered crapolicous original iMac).
This is not a case of Windows iTunes simply not supporting old iPods, its a case of them breaking old iPod's perminatly. If Apple programers had any sense they would make it so iTunes tells you it does not support your iPod and prevents it from interfacing with it at all. Yes Apple says these old iPods are not for use with Windows, but I don't remeber seeing a Surgeon General's Warning on the side of the box making it obvious that using them with Windows would be hazardous to their health. Considering USB Firewire AND iTunes is the same for Windows as it is Mac, its not such a stretch that some undiscerning non-computer nerd will plug thier iPod into their PC, load up iTunes and expect things to work. Apple is supposed to make easy to use fool proof software right? So this is somthing that they should have accounted for.
Now lets compare iPod's behavior with my cheap 128mb Nomad MuVo. iPod must be formated to work with either Mac or Windows, cannot work with both at the same time, older iPods do not work with Windows at all and can apprently break if plugged into a windows box. MuVo works with both Mac and PC simultaneously and most likley Linux too. iPod requires proprietery software to install and run which can be a major pain in the ass if you want to use it on a friends computer. MuVo works on virtually every computer with a USB drive with no software or drivers to install, simply shows up as a Removable Disk Drive. iPod requires that you buy additional hardware just to store pictures on it, much less other files. MuVo allows you to store whatever the fuck you want on it right out of the box.
So the way I see it, the iPod is a really great peice of hardware that is crippled by crappy Apple software, most likley on purpose. It's ironic that so many Linux-thumping slashdoters who are all up on Open software praise Apple, a company that is just as proprietery and close minded as Microsoft, perhaps more so.
Am I the only one who dosn't like the Auqa GUI. It's just too freiking bright, its blinding. I don't want my GUI to be bright white and obnoxious, I want it to be grey and stay in the background where it belongs. Using OS X is like staring at a light bulb, at least with windows (windows Classic of course) the gui dosnt get in the way.
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Slashdot isn't a court room and its just too much work to cover all my bases, unless of course all my base belong to someone else, in which case I'm screwed anyway.
I agree bitching is infinite, and bitching about bitching is infinite^2
However I'm sure by the time I actully press submit it will have done just that, but then again that is basicly the theme of every other thread on /.
I really dont like the new download manager introduced in .8, mainly because it does not give you the option of executing a file after it has been downloaded. (And I didnt particularly like the name change, though I've gotten used to it) Some may say this is a minor issue, but it is little things like that that will make or break a product.
And with .9 its got an absolutly hideious theme, I dont know a single person (besides a blind person maybe) who could actully say this new theme looks better than the old one without cracking a smile. I at least expected there'd be an option to use the old theme but aparently not (even Windows XP had that feature with the Windows Classic theme) And I might be the only one on slashdot to say this but I really dont care about free/open source liscencing issues, firefox is free, thats all that matters to me. Even the Quete theme for .9 does not look right, the icons look blury and it screws up the menus. So its back to .8 for me as well.
Hopefully the mozilla/firefox developers listen to their users and get these issues fixed before 1.0, cause despite my concerns it is still by far the best browser out there
I've had Dr. Sbaitso since I picked up my first Sound Blaster. He's helped me through many hard times.
no...it simply means that when some dumbass does plug a PC card into a Mac it should not break the card or the Mac
At the same time, Nintendo was smart enough to design SNES cartridges so they would not fit in a good ol' NES without a hammer. Apple on the other hand left everything the same but the version number and then throws their hands up when someone plugs in an old iPod to new iTunes. Yea they told you so but I thought Apple was in the business of "Software that protects you from your own stupidity"
And I find it annoying that my NES won't play SNES games, what a jip.
Yea I guess I was wrong about that one. Errrm, the rest of my points still stand.
ok well I stand mistaken, obvioulsy I've never actully owned an iPod... Seems that Apple holds a grudge against Windows, and rightly so, but it shouldnt affect their busnisess discisons considering the amount of money they stand too lose if Windows users don't use their product. With all the Windows bashing going on at Apple I wonder how they'd feel if MS decided to stop making Office for OSX. Somehow I think that if this same problem happend with older iPods on Macs or with older versions of the OS, Apple would be happy to help.
Why is it that every single post in this thread that casts any doubt on Apple is modded as troll or flamebait while anything and everything for them or against Microsoft (which really has no place in this story) gets bonus points. I know slashdot is biased but not that biased.
Face it, Apple has a history of screwing users of their older products. Every significant upgrade to their computer hardware or OS required people to purchase new software. And people wonder why Apple computers aren't that popular. Apple is just lucky they have a fan club that will instantly gobbel up anything that comes out of Steve Job's ass (example, the LSD inspiered crapolicous original iMac).
This is not a case of Windows iTunes simply not supporting old iPods, its a case of them breaking old iPod's perminatly. If Apple programers had any sense they would make it so iTunes tells you it does not support your iPod and prevents it from interfacing with it at all. Yes Apple says these old iPods are not for use with Windows, but I don't remeber seeing a Surgeon General's Warning on the side of the box making it obvious that using them with Windows would be hazardous to their health. Considering USB Firewire AND iTunes is the same for Windows as it is Mac, its not such a stretch that some undiscerning non-computer nerd will plug thier iPod into their PC, load up iTunes and expect things to work. Apple is supposed to make easy to use fool proof software right? So this is somthing that they should have accounted for.
Now lets compare iPod's behavior with my cheap 128mb Nomad MuVo. iPod must be formated to work with either Mac or Windows, cannot work with both at the same time, older iPods do not work with Windows at all and can apprently break if plugged into a windows box. MuVo works with both Mac and PC simultaneously and most likley Linux too. iPod requires proprietery software to install and run which can be a major pain in the ass if you want to use it on a friends computer. MuVo works on virtually every computer with a USB drive with no software or drivers to install, simply shows up as a Removable Disk Drive. iPod requires that you buy additional hardware just to store pictures on it, much less other files. MuVo allows you to store whatever the fuck you want on it right out of the box.
So the way I see it, the iPod is a really great peice of hardware that is crippled by crappy Apple software, most likley on purpose. It's ironic that so many Linux-thumping slashdoters who are all up on Open software praise Apple, a company that is just as proprietery and close minded as Microsoft, perhaps more so.
Am I the only one who dosn't like the Auqa GUI. It's just too freiking bright, its blinding. I don't want my GUI to be bright white and obnoxious, I want it to be grey and stay in the background where it belongs. Using OS X is like staring at a light bulb, at least with windows (windows Classic of course) the gui dosnt get in the way.