I don't expect perfection. That's why we have to watch over them with a microscope. We can't just hand over that kind of power without keeping a close eye. As it is now, we are lazy. We just want somebody else to deal with the "problem". This is why the law is handled so sloppily(?) now. It's pretty much a case of just lock 'em up and throw away the key. The people in power, like kids and puppy dogs, will always do what they can get away with, just like everything else in nature. I've never said there is anything conspiratorial about it. It's simply the way things work.
I always balance Joe's "bush-is-shit.com" with Jane's "bush-is-god.org" and the Trib and many others. I don't mind having fact checkers, but I do want the opportunity to check all the facts myself, also. I don't like being denied access. As long as we have the alternative, I'm perfectly willing to check out mass media. I don't limit myself to the internet. I find bias everywhere I look, but I need both sides. Mass madie won't give us that. They have to stay in business. Somebody has to "check the checkers"(love the dog):-)
I was assuming that you had to wrap a rope around the fly-wheel and pull, repeat, until the damn thing started(my outboard was a really, really old two and a half horse British thing. Damned if I can remember the name), and an electric starter kinda defeats the purpose, no? Now with the foot peddle idea mentioned there, I'm sort of worried that a bunch of slave kids will be used to power a beowulf cluster of these things, like they are doing with the looms now.
Just look at the corps' so-called "privacy" policies now popping up. The govenment is openly violating written law with the patriot act, the spying, the war, Guantanamo, etc. Court cases are continually being thrown out due to rights violations, and yet it still goes on unabated. Guilty verdicts are being overturned AFTER the person spends years in prison. Why? Because we allow it. That fact that the probes are being blocked is sufficient evidence to me. Those who make and enforce the law have no right to privacy in my book. They must be held to a much higher standard to hold such positions. If they violate the laws they they impose upon us, they should pay double when they violate it. You are free to choose to believe them when they tell they're not if you wish. You are free to stick to "official" sources if that's what floats your boat. That is your prerogative. I choose not to. That I don't remember where I've seen the evidence is irrelevent. It is there for you to see when you wish. It's not that far off the beaten path. So go ahead, stay nice and comfy in mass madia(Disney? Never-Never?) land, but don't be too surprised when you finally get bit. And besides, this is one case where you might want to "think of the children", at least yours, if you have any. They are more likely to suffer the consequences. Let's not go around thinking what's good enough for us is good enough for them. It's that kind of thinking that keeps us in our present day quagmire. I can't even image how the world would be if we actually did our best to make life easier for everybody, instead of simply believing that because we suffer, so should everyone else.
Sorry if I mis-stated. I do read the rest. But I promptly forget it when I realize it's fluff. They don't report actual news. They report what they are told. This is why blogs are much more interesting. Though life's too short to sort most of it out. You see much more info to sort when it's not censored by the boss(corp and gov't). At least with a blog(including slashdot) the info is available. In mass madia, it's simply not there. The thing is that you can't "one stop shop" with news. You have to search it out. The internet provides that chance. For that, I thank the individuals who made it possible. That most are in the US is strictly coincidental. By now, the government probably regrets ever letting it happen. Now that the genie is out, it is much more difficult for governments and corporations to control what we see and hear. They are desperately trying, but hopefully, they will fail miserably. The newspapers' and Hollywood's job now is to distract us, not to inform. They are still succeeding to a large extent(measured by election results), though not for much longer I hope. It's up to the rest of us to make sure that the info flows unencumbered, copyrighted(censored) or not. If we fail, then the net will become as dumb as TV. We must not permit any restrictions. We must not let our "leaders" decide what is truth. We must not let IP, libel, and slander laws dictate what we are allowed to say. We must do the verifying ourselves, individually. The responsibilty belongs to the readers, listeners, and the viewers alone. The only time a messenger should be held responsible is if he/she tries to restrict the available info.
They don't need any secrecy. They can do what they want right there in the open. All you need is a little distraction. That's what Hollywood is for. The bureaucratic bumbling is part of the show. The people you see are not the people setting policy. They are actors on a set, reading their lines and not bumping into the furniture(with the exception of Gerald Ford maybe). The policymakers will be forever unknown.
Ok, so they throw some to the wolves for the newspapers. Any reforms as a whole to the organization as a result? Aside from Freeh in your example, the rest were just caught being stupid off the job. It's still business as usual. A teeny bit worse under Bush maybe, but I don't see any real difference in their M.O. since Hoover was around. And, no I remain blissfully ignorant of the mass media's take on the matter. They only parrot what the government says. They don't DARE touch the real cause of what we are putting up with now. Certain groups are beyond all criticism. And their actions will never be reported or discussed. The last time they caused any real trouble was with the Pentagon Papers. But even after that, it's STILL business as usual. Turned out to be much ado about nothing. That, of course says more about the voters than anything else. Any attempt to report any truth just gets the media into more hot water. So it is useless to me now. It's all just more Laci Peterson fluff, which I immediately forget before I finish turning the page. Nope, the funnies are all I read now. The headlines are just flashing lights and pretty colors. I'll become interested in them when I see a real call to stand up for individual rights and freedoms. I'll be impressed when I see a call for Rumsfeld and the rest of the surviving Nixon and Reagan cabinet(Johnson's, Carter's and Clinton's too) and their European and Russian counterparts to stand beside Saddam in the trail. Or for Sharon, Shamir, and their ilk(the real untouchables) to be brought up on terrorism charges. The crooks being reported now are just being replaced with other crooks who will try to be a bit more careful about getting caught. Same ol' Same ol'.
...or else they've just shot themselves in the foot.... again.
What's that supposed to mean? When was the last time an agent has been brought up for violation of rights? And how long can they hold a citizen before bringing up charges? If they accuse him of some kind of terrorism, can they hold him as long as they want without charging him at all? I'll bet there will will be some serious gag order thing going on. Seeing as that is probably why they took him away. He might know "too much".
How about booting from a live CD? Nothing writes to the hard drive that you don't specifically save. You can even copy the CD to your hard drive and run it "live" from there and boot much faster and be just as safe.
I don't believe the man has a working brain cell in his head. None of these policies are his. He really is just following orders, or more precisely, reading the scripts that were given to him. I don't think I've seen a more empty headed person in my life. Just look at him when he's standing next to all those G8 guys in the photo ops. The policies have been working long before he showed up. And they will continue after he leaves. The law is irrelevent. Accounting is where it's at. The guys are in Guantanimo for pure show. Nobody is going to have a real trial. And we still won't know how they are being treated. They could be undergoing medical experiments as far as we know. We will never know until somebody with a camera can break into the place. We have not a clue as to who or how many people are locked up there. The authorized photos weren't even taken there as far as I'm concerned. This is your Hollywood propaganda machine at its best. The downhill trend only speeds up or slows down as per the Nielson ratings. The phones have been tapped since the first line was ever stretched out of Alexander Graham Bell's house. It is naive to believe there ever was any privacy. It doesn't exist. It never did. You have no way of verifying that the government obeys any of these laws. Gen-pop stills has no idea as to who's behind 9/11, PanAm 103, or any other "terrorist" act that makes the papers. We only hear what's being spoon fed by the authorities. Hardly a credible source, since they stand to gain the most. There's nobody watching over them. The people that we hired are deliquent in their duties. And we are deliquent in not assuring otherwise. And we have no way of proving it either way. The tapes have been burned, the evidence destroyed. This is the way 99% of the voters want it. And this is the way it will stay. We have yet to stray from nature's path. Any animal that developes opposable thumbs and a large clump of nerve cells inside their skulls will evolve the exact same way. Bush is us, and we are Bush. "We are all bozos on this bus".
Don't fool yourself. I can personally guarantee that the dark days will last a lot more than two and a half years. Unless a great national, no world, epiphany comes to pass.
Yeah, well, I did have to look up whether I spelled the name right. I suppose that's points against me. And I was pretty young when it happened. I might have taken more interest at the time if he threw a chair. What's a "pink floyd"?
And sometimes the best way to defeat the enemy is from the inside. Torture is a despicable practice, no matter for what or by whom. It's that simple. I will grant that the person may have been overcome by emotion and wasn't thinking clearly, but the torturers must be stopped. And the subject fits right in with "Your Rights Online". Considering the horrible news we usually see in this matter, maybe we should just call it "No Rights Online". Frequently what begins as private policy becomes public policy. In our post 9/11 hysteria, freedom has become an obscenity to be dispatched as soon as possible. The economy is what people vote on(that,and the candidate's hairstyle). They simply want to fatten their wallets, so I am willing to assume that things won't get better any time soon.
May I assume you are not a lawyer? Or a judge? This is about the natural ebb and flow of money. If the money doesn't move, the markets will die. This flow brings up nourishment from the bottom and brings life to all, pedator and prey alike. Stagnation means death, and it can smell pretty bad.
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I don't expect perfection. That's why we have to watch over them with a microscope. We can't just hand over that kind of power without keeping a close eye. As it is now, we are lazy. We just want somebody else to deal with the "problem". This is why the law is handled so sloppily(?) now. It's pretty much a case of just lock 'em up and throw away the key. The people in power, like kids and puppy dogs, will always do what they can get away with, just like everything else in nature. I've never said there is anything conspiratorial about it. It's simply the way things work.
:-)
I always balance Joe's "bush-is-shit.com" with Jane's "bush-is-god.org" and the Trib and many others. I don't mind having fact checkers, but I do want the opportunity to check all the facts myself, also. I don't like being denied access. As long as we have the alternative, I'm perfectly willing to check out mass media. I don't limit myself to the internet. I find bias everywhere I look, but I need both sides. Mass madie won't give us that. They have to stay in business. Somebody has to "check the checkers"(love the dog)
I was assuming that you had to wrap a rope around the fly-wheel and pull, repeat, until the damn thing started(my outboard was a really, really old two and a half horse British thing. Damned if I can remember the name), and an electric starter kinda defeats the purpose, no? Now with the foot peddle idea mentioned there, I'm sort of worried that a bunch of slave kids will be used to power a beowulf cluster of these things, like they are doing with the looms now.
Just look at the corps' so-called "privacy" policies now popping up. The govenment is openly violating written law with the patriot act, the spying, the war, Guantanamo, etc. Court cases are continually being thrown out due to rights violations, and yet it still goes on unabated. Guilty verdicts are being overturned AFTER the person spends years in prison. Why? Because we allow it. That fact that the probes are being blocked is sufficient evidence to me. Those who make and enforce the law have no right to privacy in my book. They must be held to a much higher standard to hold such positions. If they violate the laws they they impose upon us, they should pay double when they violate it. You are free to choose to believe them when they tell they're not if you wish. You are free to stick to "official" sources if that's what floats your boat. That is your prerogative. I choose not to. That I don't remember where I've seen the evidence is irrelevent. It is there for you to see when you wish. It's not that far off the beaten path. So go ahead, stay nice and comfy in mass madia(Disney? Never-Never?) land, but don't be too surprised when you finally get bit. And besides, this is one case where you might want to "think of the children", at least yours, if you have any. They are more likely to suffer the consequences. Let's not go around thinking what's good enough for us is good enough for them. It's that kind of thinking that keeps us in our present day quagmire. I can't even image how the world would be if we actually did our best to make life easier for everybody, instead of simply believing that because we suffer, so should everyone else.
Sorry if I mis-stated. I do read the rest. But I promptly forget it when I realize it's fluff. They don't report actual news. They report what they are told. This is why blogs are much more interesting. Though life's too short to sort most of it out. You see much more info to sort when it's not censored by the boss(corp and gov't). At least with a blog(including slashdot) the info is available. In mass madia, it's simply not there. The thing is that you can't "one stop shop" with news. You have to search it out. The internet provides that chance. For that, I thank the individuals who made it possible. That most are in the US is strictly coincidental. By now, the government probably regrets ever letting it happen. Now that the genie is out, it is much more difficult for governments and corporations to control what we see and hear. They are desperately trying, but hopefully, they will fail miserably. The newspapers' and Hollywood's job now is to distract us, not to inform. They are still succeeding to a large extent(measured by election results), though not for much longer I hope. It's up to the rest of us to make sure that the info flows unencumbered, copyrighted(censored) or not. If we fail, then the net will become as dumb as TV. We must not permit any restrictions. We must not let our "leaders" decide what is truth. We must not let IP, libel, and slander laws dictate what we are allowed to say. We must do the verifying ourselves, individually. The responsibilty belongs to the readers, listeners, and the viewers alone. The only time a messenger should be held responsible is if he/she tries to restrict the available info.
They don't need any secrecy. They can do what they want right there in the open. All you need is a little distraction. That's what Hollywood is for. The bureaucratic bumbling is part of the show. The people you see are not the people setting policy. They are actors on a set, reading their lines and not bumping into the furniture(with the exception of Gerald Ford maybe). The policymakers will be forever unknown.
Ok, so they throw some to the wolves for the newspapers. Any reforms as a whole to the organization as a result? Aside from Freeh in your example, the rest were just caught being stupid off the job. It's still business as usual. A teeny bit worse under Bush maybe, but I don't see any real difference in their M.O. since Hoover was around. And, no I remain blissfully ignorant of the mass media's take on the matter. They only parrot what the government says. They don't DARE touch the real cause of what we are putting up with now. Certain groups are beyond all criticism. And their actions will never be reported or discussed. The last time they caused any real trouble was with the Pentagon Papers. But even after that, it's STILL business as usual. Turned out to be much ado about nothing. That, of course says more about the voters than anything else. Any attempt to report any truth just gets the media into more hot water. So it is useless to me now. It's all just more Laci Peterson fluff, which I immediately forget before I finish turning the page. Nope, the funnies are all I read now. The headlines are just flashing lights and pretty colors. I'll become interested in them when I see a real call to stand up for individual rights and freedoms. I'll be impressed when I see a call for Rumsfeld and the rest of the surviving Nixon and Reagan cabinet(Johnson's, Carter's and Clinton's too) and their European and Russian counterparts to stand beside Saddam in the trail. Or for Sharon, Shamir, and their ilk(the real untouchables) to be brought up on terrorism charges. The crooks being reported now are just being replaced with other crooks who will try to be a bit more careful about getting caught. Same ol' Same ol'.
...or else they've just shot themselves in the foot.... again.
What's that supposed to mean? When was the last time an agent has been brought up for violation of rights? And how long can they hold a citizen before bringing up charges? If they accuse him of some kind of terrorism, can they hold him as long as they want without charging him at all? I'll bet there will will be some serious gag order thing going on. Seeing as that is probably why they took him away. He might know "too much".
I even tried it once or twice. However, I didn't see anything about durability. How many writes will I get before the thing pops a cork?
How about booting from a live CD? Nothing writes to the hard drive that you don't specifically save. You can even copy the CD to your hard drive and run it "live" from there and boot much faster and be just as safe.
Mcafee should consider using the same build on their home editions.
What? And kill their sales of the enterprise edition? You won't get far in today's corporate world.
Schemat1c, I want to buy your rock.
...they cannot buy common sense.
Who says? It's not even very expensive.
I don't believe the man has a working brain cell in his head. None of these policies are his. He really is just following orders, or more precisely, reading the scripts that were given to him. I don't think I've seen a more empty headed person in my life. Just look at him when he's standing next to all those G8 guys in the photo ops. The policies have been working long before he showed up. And they will continue after he leaves. The law is irrelevent. Accounting is where it's at. The guys are in Guantanimo for pure show. Nobody is going to have a real trial. And we still won't know how they are being treated. They could be undergoing medical experiments as far as we know. We will never know until somebody with a camera can break into the place. We have not a clue as to who or how many people are locked up there. The authorized photos weren't even taken there as far as I'm concerned. This is your Hollywood propaganda machine at its best. The downhill trend only speeds up or slows down as per the Nielson ratings. The phones have been tapped since the first line was ever stretched out of Alexander Graham Bell's house. It is naive to believe there ever was any privacy. It doesn't exist. It never did. You have no way of verifying that the government obeys any of these laws. Gen-pop stills has no idea as to who's behind 9/11, PanAm 103, or any other "terrorist" act that makes the papers. We only hear what's being spoon fed by the authorities. Hardly a credible source, since they stand to gain the most. There's nobody watching over them. The people that we hired are deliquent in their duties. And we are deliquent in not assuring otherwise. And we have no way of proving it either way. The tapes have been burned, the evidence destroyed. This is the way 99% of the voters want it. And this is the way it will stay. We have yet to stray from nature's path. Any animal that developes opposable thumbs and a large clump of nerve cells inside their skulls will evolve the exact same way. Bush is us, and we are Bush. "We are all bozos on this bus".
...he got smacked down on Guantanimo, didn't he?
He did?? You mean it's been closed down and the prisoners have been freed?
I at least take some comfort in the fact that he has so far not been immune to checks and balances
It ain't over yet. He can pardon himself. Or Cheney will do it for him if he decides to give up the office to avoid prosecution, like Mr. Nixon.
Don't fool yourself. I can personally guarantee that the dark days will last a lot more than two and a half years. Unless a great national, no world, epiphany comes to pass.
Too bad you didn't get the reference...As a matter of fact, I don't remember where I got it from, but I know it refers to something.
Yeah, well, I did have to look up whether I spelled the name right. I suppose that's points against me. And I was pretty young when it happened. I might have taken more interest at the time if he threw a chair.
What's a "pink floyd"?
They can call it the Zune-Wii.
"Saying `I hate Canada' is like saying `I hate toast'."
Well...I DO hate cold toast.
And sometimes the best way to defeat the enemy is from the inside. Torture is a despicable practice, no matter for what or by whom. It's that simple. I will grant that the person may have been overcome by emotion and wasn't thinking clearly, but the torturers must be stopped. And the subject fits right in with "Your Rights Online". Considering the horrible news we usually see in this matter, maybe we should just call it "No Rights Online". Frequently what begins as private policy becomes public policy. In our post 9/11 hysteria, freedom has become an obscenity to be dispatched as soon as possible. The economy is what people vote on(that,and the candidate's hairstyle). They simply want to fatten their wallets, so I am willing to assume that things won't get better any time soon.
Well, maybe they have a cosiner...
SCO are flat out lying...
Oh no! You mean there's more than one? I hope they're not triplets.
More like Nikita Khrushchev...
Why is this still going on?
May I assume you are not a lawyer? Or a judge? This is about the natural ebb and flow of money. If the money doesn't move, the markets will die. This flow brings up nourishment from the bottom and brings life to all, pedator and prey alike. Stagnation means death, and it can smell pretty bad.
It was on a private INTRANET for god sakes...
No, it's a government intranet. Paid for by US taxpayers and in blood by others.