Heh, one of the reasons we invented philosophy was probably for that very purpose. I don't know why, but we seem to be obsessed with finding a "reason" or "purpose" for our existance. So, we make stuff up. We make up rules and try to codify our bavavior to show that we're different. But any animal can be trained to behave well through reward and punishment. They're(and we're) not behaving because it's good. We do it to recieve reward or avoid punishment. We're not learning anything that way...except "might makes right". Which, like I said is the way nature operates. We have reached the proverbial "brick wall" with this method. We are finding out that the authority must come from within, not outside. We will not see much real progress until we all can see that. We are not born evil. We are born animal. What you see in the children is raw, unfettered animal instinct. We should guide them towards the good that they have inside, but is bieng overruled by those instincts. We should give them guidance, not judgement.(My new favorite Hollywood soundbite)
...or support than some guy selling bootlegged CDs on a street corner.
We should support our street corners vendors. This damn P2P thing is wiping them out! Oh, well. Luckily for them there's still "Romex" watches. Or has eBay killed that one, too?
...this dildo is apparently attempting to prove me wrong...
I hope he's just trying to help point out the absurdity of the law...while making some cash on the side. This is exactly what we need to show the frivolity of it all. Let's see who picks up on it...besides Slashdot.
How could anyone possibly believe otherwise? This is the natural path of all these kinds of laws. There can be no other way. All prohibitions end up like this, mostly due to the selective enforcement(and mostly against the poor). If you are to continue with this, you will continue to see the same kinds of results. So, let's see if we can abolish the whole thing without having to fire a shot. Freedom shouldn't have to come out the barrel of a gun.
Okay. I just wanted to make sure we're all on the same page, nothing more. There are all sorts of people who would spend hours spewing some worthless goobledy-goop they call philosophy, or they try to convince us that they are somehow better than everybody else to justify their atrocoties. So, in truth, I find your response refreshing, and I certainly have no arguement to prove otherwise. This is the way nature functions. I can't expect us to be any different...yet. It is the bane of physical existance.
Sounds rather recursive. What gives us the capacity to write laws then? We don't have the capacity to regulate ourselves, but we have the capacity to regulate others? On what basis?
Hear Hear! Actually, I believe the gov't can "violate" IP law in an emergency. Pretty much like eminent domain. I don't know if they give it back after the "all clear".
Absolutely nothing. So I'll repeat myself AGAIN. If you're going to develope "risky" software, if you're going to be a whistle-blower, if you're going to expose weaknesses in...whatever, then there is only ONE way to protect yourself. Do it ANONYMOUSLY!!! To hell with the attributions! The only thing you're going to get is retribution. Get your act together, people. When software patents hit the streets, you're either going to use Microsoft, or your going to be illegal. And if you're going to take the high road, then leave your damn name off. Otherwise you're only looking for trouble. Damn! I swear. This exactly like trying to remind the pilot to, most importantly, fly the plane when something goes wrong. All to often, the entire crew is trying to fix a burned out bulb while the plane is flying into the ground. And it happens over and over again as if nobody ever heard the warning.
Yeah. If you're Microsoft, IBM, RCA, Monsanto, Dow Chemical...It works just dandy. An even bigger bureaucracy will make it work better. History has proven that bigger is always better. Let's keep on piling on one watch dog on top of another. We'll get it right someday...Or we could go the easy route that would benefit everybody...Nah. Better to work with the devil we know.
They're telling us that intellectual property is more protected than real property. Maybe it's because the VAST majority of IP is owned by big corps? And they're trying to put real property into the hands of these corps also? When can we exert eminent domain on IP? To further the progress of human society? We should claim the right.
that this is some kind of new McDonalds recruiting tactic, seeing as that this is the only place that these kids will be able to get a job if these trumped up felony charges hold up. Why would anybody honestly think this is a good thing? You damn people just won't be happy unless you can lock up at least 25% of your population, will you? Is this just an attempt to revive your manufacturing base? By using prison labor? You won't have to out source anymore. This is sickness!
The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services.
Great if it was true. The consumer usually gets lower quality products and services, and mistakenly feels helpless to do anything about it.
...every time we use an ATM, an insurance company, a bank, a personal computer--we are benefiting from offshoring of high cost labor and parts.
Ah, so that's why the fees keep climbing higher and higher. I remember when the ATM were free to use, and that was before any of the tech(other than the manufacture) was outsourced anywhere. The labor costs go down, and user fees go up. Real winners we are. You seem to be a believer in "trickle down" economics, and that we should be grateful for the crumbs those corps leave for us. Until we can have machines do our work for us, the workers do need to organize. There's no doubt about that. Now they have to create a worldwide organization and form giant worker monopolies to compete with corporate monopolies. For instance a worker in India working for an American company should demand American style wages.
Until European workers learn to compete aggressively...
They could start by educating the Indian workers of the great money to be made in IT, and that they, too can make European style wages...if they ask. Instead of lowering our standards, let's try to help them raise theirs. That was always my only complaint about illegals. They would work for almost nothing, destroying the wage base for everybody else. "Workers of the world, unite!" has real meaning now. It's time for the workers to practice a little collusion...just like the big boys do. It's time for us to set the tone of the discussion.
Now I might have to work the fields instead of thinking out new stuff in the future"
Some of my best ideas come to me while out "working the fields". What could be a better motivator than to find a way to make your work in the fields a bit easier, safer, whatever? I would tend to believe that the people working in the fields know what's needed and would come up with the best solution to a problem. Should we give special privileges to people just to sit and think? I don't think so... They come up with ideas for making money. We need ideas to improve our lives.
And just how far down the totem pole do you think all that fancy technology reaches? It does me no good if I can't afford to use it. Most of the money being spent is for featherbedding the industry. The boss's incompetent, lazy, good-for-nothing, drug addicted brother in-law has to work somewhere, you know, or he aint gettin' any from the old lady. And a lot of that money went for that rock on her finger, too. No sir, I'll take the more affordable, low tech approach, thank you. If I can't afford the high tech treatments(because we know that the cure is not profitable), then why should I care if it even exists? If you want to see where the vast majority of that money goes, check out the massive real estate acquisitions the big hospitals are always making. For what? To put in a wing to handle at best 5 of your "premiere" clien....er...patients a week? I've seen hospitals refuse to give painkillers to patients(the kind that are there in a bed) because they had no insurance. All this high tech is only for the highest bidder.
Find the people that didn't vote the way you did, and kill them. They're your real enemy. The gov't is reflecting their wishes, and they seem to out-number you. Attn. mods and DHS: This is not a serious post. No need to flinch.
According to the ruling, apparently it does. We should understand by now that no matter where you live on the planet, the gov't(not just the U.S.) owns ALL property...to be dispensed as it sees fit. Either live with it, or vote the bums out. Once again, it's up to you and your neighbors.
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Heh, one of the reasons we invented philosophy was probably for that very purpose. I don't know why, but we seem to be obsessed with finding a "reason" or "purpose" for our existance. So, we make stuff up. We make up rules and try to codify our bavavior to show that we're different. But any animal can be trained to behave well through reward and punishment. They're(and we're) not behaving because it's good. We do it to recieve reward or avoid punishment. We're not learning anything that way...except "might makes right". Which, like I said is the way nature operates. We have reached the proverbial "brick wall" with this method. We are finding out that the authority must come from within, not outside. We will not see much real progress until we all can see that. We are not born evil. We are born animal. What you see in the children is raw, unfettered animal instinct. We should guide them towards the good that they have inside, but is bieng overruled by those instincts. We should give them guidance, not judgement.(My new favorite Hollywood soundbite)
As long as you can't buy sex on the internet...
Mmmm,you were saying...?
...or support than some guy selling bootlegged CDs on a street corner.
We should support our street corners vendors. This damn P2P thing is wiping them out! Oh, well. Luckily for them there's still "Romex" watches. Or has eBay killed that one, too?
...this dildo is apparently attempting to prove me wrong...
I hope he's just trying to help point out the absurdity of the law...while making some cash on the side. This is exactly what we need to show the frivolity of it all. Let's see who picks up on it...besides Slashdot.
is that he's gotten as far as he has."
How could anyone possibly believe otherwise? This is the natural path of all these kinds of laws. There can be no other way. All prohibitions end up like this, mostly due to the selective enforcement(and mostly against the poor). If you are to continue with this, you will continue to see the same kinds of results. So, let's see if we can abolish the whole thing without having to fire a shot. Freedom shouldn't have to come out the barrel of a gun.
On the basis of might makes right.
Okay. I just wanted to make sure we're all on the same page, nothing more. There are all sorts of people who would spend hours spewing some worthless goobledy-goop they call philosophy, or they try to convince us that they are somehow better than everybody else to justify their atrocoties. So, in truth, I find your response refreshing, and I certainly have no arguement to prove otherwise. This is the way nature functions. I can't expect us to be any different...yet. It is the bane of physical existance.
Sounds rather recursive. What gives us the capacity to write laws then? We don't have the capacity to regulate ourselves, but we have the capacity to regulate others? On what basis?
Hear Hear! Actually, I believe the gov't can "violate" IP law in an emergency. Pretty much like eminent domain. I don't know if they give it back after the "all clear".
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Heh. It looks like you were modded by a gov't employee.
Absolutely nothing. So I'll repeat myself AGAIN. If you're going to develope "risky" software, if you're going to be a whistle-blower, if you're going to expose weaknesses in...whatever, then there is only ONE way to protect yourself. Do it ANONYMOUSLY!!! To hell with the attributions! The only thing you're going to get is retribution. Get your act together, people. When software patents hit the streets, you're either going to use Microsoft, or your going to be illegal. And if you're going to take the high road, then leave your damn name off. Otherwise you're only looking for trouble. Damn! I swear. This exactly like trying to remind the pilot to, most importantly, fly the plane when something goes wrong. All to often, the entire crew is trying to fix a burned out bulb while the plane is flying into the ground. And it happens over and over again as if nobody ever heard the warning.
The patent system works.
...FM transmitter
Yeah. If you're Microsoft, IBM, RCA, Monsanto, Dow Chemical...It works just dandy. An even bigger bureaucracy will make it work better. History has proven that bigger is always better. Let's keep on piling on one watch dog on top of another. We'll get it right someday...Or we could go the easy route that would benefit everybody...Nah. Better to work with the devil we know.
We all know how that went down. Don't we?
They're telling us that intellectual property is more protected than real property. Maybe it's because the VAST majority of IP is owned by big corps? And they're trying to put real property into the hands of these corps also? When can we exert eminent domain on IP? To further the progress of human society? We should claim the right.
There...
"Block the sun"?
Sounds more like, "Mr. Burns fans rejoice."
that this is some kind of new McDonalds recruiting tactic, seeing as that this is the only place that these kids will be able to get a job if these trumped up felony charges hold up. Why would anybody honestly think this is a good thing? You damn people just won't be happy unless you can lock up at least 25% of your population, will you? Is this just an attempt to revive your manufacturing base? By using prison labor? You won't have to out source anymore. This is sickness!
So should Microsoft include an extremely crippled "radio"...
Of course they should be allowed to. Mere inclusion isnt a problem. Sabotage of third party stuff is.
The winners are the consumer who gets to pay lower prices for the products and services.
...every time we use an ATM, an insurance company, a bank, a personal computer--we are benefiting from offshoring of high cost labor and parts.
Great if it was true. The consumer usually gets lower quality products and services, and mistakenly feels helpless to do anything about it.
Ah, so that's why the fees keep climbing higher and higher. I remember when the ATM were free to use, and that was before any of the tech(other than the manufacture) was outsourced anywhere. The labor costs go down, and user fees go up. Real winners we are. You seem to be a believer in "trickle down" economics, and that we should be grateful for the crumbs those corps leave for us. Until we can have machines do our work for us, the workers do need to organize. There's no doubt about that. Now they have to create a worldwide organization and form giant worker monopolies to compete with corporate monopolies. For instance a worker in India working for an American company should demand American style wages.
Until European workers learn to compete aggressively...
They could start by educating the Indian workers of the great money to be made in IT, and that they, too can make European style wages...if they ask. Instead of lowering our standards, let's try to help them raise theirs. That was always my only complaint about illegals. They would work for almost nothing, destroying the wage base for everybody else. "Workers of the world, unite!" has real meaning now. It's time for the workers to practice a little collusion...just like the big boys do. It's time for us to set the tone of the discussion.
Goes to show what I've been saying all along. Prohibition supports terrorism.
Now I might have to work the fields instead of thinking out new stuff in the future"
Some of my best ideas come to me while out "working the fields". What could be a better motivator than to find a way to make your work in the fields a bit easier, safer, whatever? I would tend to believe that the people working in the fields know what's needed and would come up with the best solution to a problem. Should we give special privileges to people just to sit and think? I don't think so... They come up with ideas for making money. We need ideas to improve our lives.
And just how far down the totem pole do you think all that fancy technology reaches? It does me no good if I can't afford to use it. Most of the money being spent is for featherbedding the industry. The boss's incompetent, lazy, good-for-nothing, drug addicted brother in-law has to work somewhere, you know, or he aint gettin' any from the old lady. And a lot of that money went for that rock on her finger, too. No sir, I'll take the more affordable, low tech approach, thank you. If I can't afford the high tech treatments(because we know that the cure is not profitable), then why should I care if it even exists? If you want to see where the vast majority of that money goes, check out the massive real estate acquisitions the big hospitals are always making. For what? To put in a wing to handle at best 5 of your "premiere" clien....er...patients a week? I've seen hospitals refuse to give painkillers to patients(the kind that are there in a bed) because they had no insurance. All this high tech is only for the highest bidder.
I sure am glad that I rent. What was the advantage of ownership supposed to be again?
Next suggestion?
Find the people that didn't vote the way you did, and kill them. They're your real enemy. The gov't is reflecting their wishes, and they seem to out-number you.
Attn. mods and DHS: This is not a serious post. No need to flinch.
It's a sizeable taking from the porn industry.
Sounds more like a sizeable outsourcing of the porn industry.
Inconvenience doesn't superceede my rights.
According to the ruling, apparently it does. We should understand by now that no matter where you live on the planet, the gov't(not just the U.S.) owns ALL property...to be dispensed as it sees fit. Either live with it, or vote the bums out. Once again, it's up to you and your neighbors.