That worked pretty good for the telephone. My 70 year antique still works thanks the monopoly power that set the standard. Think your grandkids are going to find anything to play your 70 year old CD's? Actually, we won't have worry about that, because I can virtually guarantee(sp) you that there will be no playable 70 year old CD's. Vinyl on the other hand... Phonograph records are another standard that held up over the years. And you can still listen to them with no electricity, plus, there are plenty of 70 year old records that are very listenable, even if the music isn't.:-) It seems to be just one of those things where monopolies can be a good thing. It's up to us to make sure they don't get too powerful.
This seems to be a thread about mac mice(?) so, I thought I would chime in. My only complaint about it is that if you are dragging something and have to lift the mouse up to re-position onto the mouse pad, you suddenly un-clicked and dropped whatever you were dragging(use click lock, right?). But I don't like click lock...wwaaaaa.
And now for something completely off topic... Plug it the fuck in and shut up I might re-word that to say: "Just fuckin' plug it in, and shut the fuck up." It just seems to floooowww. Don't you think? If you don't want to use "fuck" more than once, you could say: "Just plug it in, and shut the fuck up." Then there's the "Southpark" version: "Shut your fuckin' mouth, motherfuckerrrr" You're welcome.
I've seen it happen in Chicago. The most "famous" one was the ABC (Disney) affiliate being filled with replacements during their strike. They were from non unoin affiliates. It sure would be nice if the replacements would demand at least the same bennies as the regulars. Not everyone got their jobs back. It was actually a lockout. Believe me, I like the idea of striking bad employers, and I'm very pleased when it works, but there are lots of times when a slowdown and "blue flu" are less risky and more effective. The gov't may be able to order you back to work, but they can't make you work faster.
The part I don't like about at will employment is that the company can fire you "at will" without any reason if it desires. Luckily, it doesn't always work out that way. They still have to obey the law.(if they're not that rich) If you can prove that they fired you illegally(race,sex,etc), you can get re-hired or possibly walk away with a boat load of money. The Federally-mandated breaks part has to do with being able to leave your post for a break. Nobody can stop you from going to the bathroom(legally anyway) Yes, I know the original poster was probably joking.
It's the publishers that are screwed when they make 10,000 books and no one buys them because of free copying online, not the author
It's the author who's screwed having spent a year of his/her life writing a well crafted piece of fiction only to find there are copies available for free over [insert p2p of choice here] without any recognition going to the author for writing the piece in the first place.
Usually, the author has been paid by the publisher, and has probably given up all rights to said publisher. So p2p is more likely the publisher's headache. Most copyright laws are written to protect the publisher. Rather strange, I just finished reading (ok, skimming. This law stuff is hard.) the first copyright law of 1710. It did provide some protection for the author, much to the dismay of the publishers of the time. The part about this law that I really liked was that if there was a complaint about the price, the gov't could set a "fair" price. As I said in another post, If you want copyright protection, you must accept a price set by the "protectors".
Didn't the Americans do something similar early in their history? Maybe the Chinese might show us how dumb IP is, or, when they acquire a bunch of homegrown IP, they'll enforce it stronger than the likes of anything we've ever seen.
It's not about staying in business -- that's already a lost cause for SCO. It's about generating revenue.
I'm not sure about some folks, but I thought generating revenue was one of the reasons for going into business. At this point, suing people is working for them. Expect the same from Microsoft when we're finished with SCO. It might not be sustainable, but it will buy a nice villa on the Mexican Riviera. Maybe the sustainable part is being able to do it over and over(one person or group, different corporations)
XFree and Mozilla to name two problems. The license for the kernel appears stable for the moment. But all the other stuff that makes Linux "marketable" is becoming a confusing pot of gruel. Until this kind of silliness can be sorted out, Linux will forever remain the hobbyist's play thing. Considering how long it takes the courts to digest case loads, the licensing issue might not stabilize(sp) for up to 10 years or more. Luckily, Linux is young, so I'm trying to keep the faith.
I just happened to see your name while meandering around the site. So I thought I'd give a shout out to ya.
I'm going to read through this, this, and this. (should be old stuff to you) among other things to provide a more informed response in the morning. (I'm a slow reader...:-) At this point , after taking a quick glance, you almost have me convinced. In this money mad world that we are prisoners of, a case possibly can be made for copyrights. One of the things I particularly(?) liked in the original copyright law in 1710 was that if anyone thought the price was too high for a copyrighted work, the gov't could step in and set a "fair" price. This makes sense to me. If you want copyright protection, then you have to accept the price set by the "protectors".
I don't care what Hollywood makes. (Maybe a little less propaganda would be nice. Did you see what they did to "Cheech and Chong's Next Movie during Reagan's zero tolerance reign of terror?) I watch what I like and skip the rest. Good movies can be made as a "work for hire", just like anything else. Copyright makes all this crass commercialism possible. 'No Copyrights EVER!' hasn't been attempted, so you can't possibly know whether you can live without it or not.
Ha! That's funny as hell. I haven't "seen" you for almost two weeks. No, I'm just stalking pro-copyright drones in the hopes of helping them "see the light".
On the "Hollywood filth" part, let them spew all they want. Every day there are more and more alternatives. (That's really what the ??AA is trying to stop. They're just using "copyright infringment" as a scapegoat.) If people make money from garbage, who am I to say anything about it?
I sure hope that alone keeps BSD alive. Dumb licenses might kill Linux before Microsoft does. Then how will SCO stay in business if they have nobody to sue? Like a train wreck, these license battles are fun to watch.
Not everything from Hollywood is garbage. I thought the movie "Network" was pretty good.:-) The garbage part was when it lost "best picture"(movie, whatever) to "Rocky".
You should get that money from the people that hired you to make the movie, not from people 75 years later. If you want to make a movie on your own, find sponsers to pay for it, instead of extorting from the future.
Without some way of making a living on my career, I'll have no means by which to continue doing it.
Sure you can. It's called "work for hire". It's how regular people make their money. Do the project. Get paid. Forget about it. There's no reason why artist should get special laws made for them, just so they can re-sell old stuff. I would love to fix a machine, and then continue to get paid for it for 75 years without doing anymore, but I can't do that, and you shouldn't be able to, either.
...so maybe this will give an impetus for the X group to clean up the licensing issue:-)
The same applies to mozilla. If they keep this crap up, we should drop them also.For a long time, I've suspected that OSS might crumble under all this licensing madness. I just didn't think we would be doing it to ourselves. Public Domain is the only license we should need. Everything else just feeds the lawyers.
To hell with the catheter. Pee into a cup, and leave it on top of the water cooler, or "accidently" spill it by the booses door. All seriousness aside, I believe that there are federal work rules mandating some kind of rest period. If you aren't under one of those evil "willful employment" contracts, it should be pretty safe to call the feds if the company were to break those rules.
Definitely the best way to play it. I wish that the air traffic controlers had done a "by the book" slowdown instead of striking back in '81(?). They would have(for the grammer fiend that nailed me before) kept their jobs, and they probably would have won. I believe that it worked in Europe recently. Strikes really don't work anymore, because you will just be replaced. In most union shops, if you follow the rules to the letter, they can't touch you. Alway use your opponent's force against them.
This is why I want to go real wireless. No ISP to worry about. The "court order" thing is a red herring. They hand those out like candy, so there is no protection against trumped up charges. Evidence is showing that gov't obeys the law as much as a bootlegger. As long as we can keep up in the privacy "arms race" (doing our absolute best to bring about absolute privacy to the individual) we'll be ok. I don't care whether the law says we have right to absolute privacy or not. I just want to see the technology bring it about, despite what the law may want.
All this crypto stuff is real nice and all, but if "they" want the info, you will be locked up until you give up the key. Besides just watching where the traffic goes tells them more than you can hide with crypto. In this war on privacy, the ISP can be a real weak link in privacy protection. So we need to ditch the ISP. The only way I know how is going truly wireless in some P2P kind of way. This could stop any tracing of traffic. I'm aware of the latency involved with all the "island hopping" that would be necessary to carry this out, but I think things like that can be worked out over time. Of course, another solution would be to send out so much "chaf", they could never sort it out. Disinformation can work both ways.
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That worked pretty good for the telephone. My 70 year antique still works thanks the monopoly power that set the standard. Think your grandkids are going to find anything to play your 70 year old CD's? Actually, we won't have worry about that, because I can virtually guarantee(sp) you that there will be no playable 70 year old CD's. Vinyl on the other hand... Phonograph records are another standard that held up over the years. And you can still listen to them with no electricity, plus, there are plenty of 70 year old records that are very listenable, even if the music isn't.:-) It seems to be just one of those things where monopolies can be a good thing. It's up to us to make sure they don't get too powerful.
Whatever happened to the standard bodies who are supposed to prevent this?
:-)
Reagan canned them all
This seems to be a thread about mac mice(?) so, I thought I would chime in. My only complaint about it is that if you are dragging something and have to lift the mouse up to re-position onto the mouse pad, you suddenly un-clicked and dropped whatever you were dragging(use click lock, right?). But I don't like click lock...wwaaaaa.
And now for something completely off topic...
Plug it the fuck in and shut up
I might re-word that to say:
"Just fuckin' plug it in, and shut the fuck up."
It just seems to floooowww. Don't you think? If you don't want to use "fuck" more than once, you could say:
"Just plug it in, and shut the fuck up."
Then there's the "Southpark" version:
"Shut your fuckin' mouth, motherfuckerrrr"
You're welcome.
mozilla.org is working towards having all the code in the tree licensed under a MPL/LGPL/GPL tri-license
Oh, man. So now we need a license "cocktail" to stay alive and healthy? This is such a kludge.
I've seen it happen in Chicago. The most "famous" one was the ABC (Disney) affiliate being filled with replacements during their strike. They were from non unoin affiliates. It sure would be nice if the replacements would demand at least the same bennies as the regulars. Not everyone got their jobs back. It was actually a lockout. Believe me, I like the idea of striking bad employers, and I'm very pleased when it works, but there are lots of times when a slowdown and "blue flu" are less risky and more effective. The gov't may be able to order you back to work, but they can't make you work faster.
The part I don't like about at will employment is that the company can fire you "at will" without any reason if it desires. Luckily, it doesn't always work out that way. They still have to obey the law.(if they're not that rich) If you can prove that they fired you illegally(race,sex,etc), you can get re-hired or possibly walk away with a boat load of money.
The Federally-mandated breaks part has to do with being able to leave your post for a break. Nobody can stop you from going to the bathroom(legally anyway) Yes, I know the original poster was probably joking.
It's the publishers that are screwed when they make 10,000 books and no one buys them because of free copying online, not the author
It's the author who's screwed having spent a year of his/her life writing a well crafted piece of fiction only to find there are copies available for free over [insert p2p of choice here] without any recognition going to the author for writing the piece in the first place.
Usually, the author has been paid by the publisher, and has probably given up all rights to said publisher. So p2p is more likely the publisher's headache. Most copyright laws are written to protect the publisher. Rather strange, I just finished reading (ok, skimming. This law stuff is hard.) the first copyright law of 1710. It did provide some protection for the author, much to the dismay of the publishers of the time. The part about this law that I really liked was that if there was a complaint about the price, the gov't could set a "fair" price. As I said in another post, If you want copyright protection, you must accept a price set by the "protectors".
Selling exact copies of a product...
Didn't the Americans do something similar early in their history? Maybe the Chinese might show us how dumb IP is, or, when they acquire a bunch of homegrown IP, they'll enforce it stronger than the likes of anything we've ever seen.
It's not about staying in business -- that's already a lost cause for SCO. It's about generating revenue.
I'm not sure about some folks, but I thought generating revenue was one of the reasons for going into business. At this point, suing people is working for them. Expect the same from Microsoft when we're finished with SCO. It might not be sustainable, but it will buy a nice villa on the Mexican Riviera. Maybe the sustainable part is being able to do it over and over(one person or group, different corporations)
XFree and Mozilla to name two problems. The license for the kernel appears stable for the moment. But all the other stuff that makes Linux "marketable" is becoming a confusing pot of gruel. Until this kind of silliness can be sorted out, Linux will forever remain the hobbyist's play thing. Considering how long it takes the courts to digest case loads, the licensing issue might not stabilize(sp) for up to 10 years or more. Luckily, Linux is young, so I'm trying to keep the faith.
I just happened to see your name while meandering around the site. So I thought I'd give a shout out to ya.
I'm going to read through this, this, and this. (should be old stuff to you) among other things to provide a more informed response in the morning. (I'm a slow reader...:-) At this point , after taking a quick glance, you almost have me convinced. In this money mad world that we are prisoners of, a case possibly can be made for copyrights. One of the things I particularly(?) liked in the original copyright law in 1710 was that if anyone thought the price was too high for a copyrighted work, the gov't could step in and set a "fair" price. This makes sense to me. If you want copyright protection, then you have to accept the price set by the "protectors".
...so I can skip the trash and find the good shows...
That would leave you with "channel" line 1 in and watching home movies on the VCR
...the cost is much cheaper.
Evidently, you've never seen the electric bill for a 100,000 watt transmitter.
I don't care what Hollywood makes. (Maybe a little less propaganda would be nice. Did you see what they did to "Cheech and Chong's Next Movie during Reagan's zero tolerance reign of terror?) I watch what I like and skip the rest. Good movies can be made as a "work for hire", just like anything else. Copyright makes all this crass commercialism possible. 'No Copyrights EVER!' hasn't been attempted, so you can't possibly know whether you can live without it or not.
Ha! That's funny as hell. I haven't "seen" you for almost two weeks. No, I'm just stalking pro-copyright drones in the hopes of helping them "see the light".
On the "Hollywood filth" part, let them spew all they want. Every day there are more and more alternatives. (That's really what the ??AA is trying to stop. They're just using "copyright infringment" as a scapegoat.) If people make money from garbage, who am I to say anything about it?
no dumb licenses...
I sure hope that alone keeps BSD alive. Dumb licenses might kill Linux before Microsoft does. Then how will SCO stay in business if they have nobody to sue? Like a train wreck, these license battles are fun to watch.
STOP the propagation of Hollywood Garbage!
:-) The garbage part was when it lost "best picture"(movie, whatever) to "Rocky".
Not everything from Hollywood is garbage. I thought the movie "Network" was pretty good.
You should get that money from the people that hired you to make the movie, not from people 75 years later. If you want to make a movie on your own, find sponsers to pay for it, instead of extorting from the future.
Without some way of making a living on my career, I'll have no means by which to continue doing it.
Sure you can. It's called "work for hire". It's how regular people make their money. Do the project. Get paid. Forget about it. There's no reason why artist should get special laws made for them, just so they can re-sell old stuff. I would love to fix a machine, and then continue to get paid for it for 75 years without doing anymore, but I can't do that, and you shouldn't be able to, either.
...so maybe this will give an impetus for the X group to clean up the licensing issue :-)
The same applies to mozilla. If they keep this crap up, we should drop them also.For a long time, I've suspected that OSS might crumble under all this licensing madness. I just didn't think we would be doing it to ourselves. Public Domain is the only license we should need. Everything else just feeds the lawyers.
To hell with the catheter. Pee into a cup, and leave it on top of the water cooler, or "accidently" spill it by the booses door. All seriousness aside, I believe that there are federal work rules mandating some kind of rest period. If you aren't under one of those evil "willful employment" contracts, it should be pretty safe to call the feds if the company were to break those rules.
Definitely the best way to play it. I wish that the air traffic controlers had done a "by the book" slowdown instead of striking back in '81(?). They would have(for the grammer fiend that nailed me before) kept their jobs, and they probably would have won. I believe that it worked in Europe recently. Strikes really don't work anymore, because you will just be replaced. In most union shops, if you follow the rules to the letter, they can't touch you. Alway use your opponent's force against them.
This is why I want to go real wireless. No ISP to worry about. The "court order" thing is a red herring. They hand those out like candy, so there is no protection against trumped up charges. Evidence is showing that gov't obeys the law as much as a bootlegger. As long as we can keep up in the privacy "arms race" (doing our absolute best to bring about absolute privacy to the individual) we'll be ok. I don't care whether the law says we have right to absolute privacy or not. I just want to see the technology bring it about, despite what the law may want.
All this crypto stuff is real nice and all, but if "they" want the info, you will be locked up until you give up the key. Besides just watching where the traffic goes tells them more than you can hide with crypto. In this war on privacy, the ISP can be a real weak link in privacy protection. So we need to ditch the ISP. The only way I know how is going truly wireless in some P2P kind of way. This could stop any tracing of traffic. I'm aware of the latency involved with all the "island hopping" that would be necessary to carry this out, but I think things like that can be worked out over time. Of course, another solution would be to send out so much "chaf", they could never sort it out. Disinformation can work both ways.
I read your link, and now I'm actually frightened. And you ALL know who I'm talking about.