I'm sorry you got modded down for that. I found your comment to be rather articulate and forthcoming (even if you were joking). Even here, on the site of the "enlightened", you'll get slammed if you desecrate their favorite business model. Many people are comfortable with the status quo and don't want any disruptive changes.
Well, I can't add to slipstick's reply without being redundant. He might be making fun of both of us, but I happen to think that his scenario is the more correct one. But we'll never know until we try.
Abolition is the only way. "you just have to trust me"
The proper use of a patent system is the best way to encourage innovation.
Like communism,(or democracy for that matter) the patent system has never been used "properly". It can't be, considering the kind of people that are, and always have been in charge.
Unfortunately recent sloppy (and possibly corrupt) patent processing is giving the system a poor reputation.
There's nothing recent about it. Robert Fulton, the Wright Bros., Edison, etc were all doing this quite a long time ago.
Don't expect any sane policy when the beneficiaries of the insane policy we're under now are the main contributers to our elected officials.
Linux isn't a big enough "problem" for them yet. Give them time. (flame) The only reason I would like to see that happen is to make all of you realize just how evil patents and copyrights are. Maybe when you find yourselves on the wrong end of the "big stick", you might find enlightenment and actually try to put a stop to this madness. (/flame)
There is absolutely nothing here that could lead you to criticize the entire patent system...
Especially if you're in the litigation business. That's the only business that benefits from the copyright/patent system. Yes, the system promotes innovation, as in innovative lawsuits. There are a lot of people that benefit from this system, but that doesn't make it good. The businesses that would die without it would be replaced by other, probably more beneficial businesses. Then we could get on with innovating and creating things that we actually need. However, this continuing clash of the titans is very entertaining, and probably should be made into a movie, if "Wall Street" didn't already cover the issue.
I don't even open PDF's with my browser anymore, for precisely that reason. It will hang until it's finished downloading. If it's a big file, you'll being waiting for a response for a very long time. Just save the link to your hard drive, and open it with your reader.
Because they are unofficial "distributors". They are there to saturate the market with MS products so that the customers are all using and thus dependant on MS. Same goes for the music and movie business over there. But maybe that was a rhetorical question and you already know the answer:-)
...we should have been encouraged to depend less on Muslim countries and their exports.
You're mixing in a lot of silly politics into this. Being concerned importing from or exporting ot Muslims countries is the same thing as puuting the flags on your cars. We are going to continue to sell weapons to and import oil from the middle east as long as it's profitable. It doesn't matter how many Americans they kill. I could never hope to put it better than this... "You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and people. There are no Russians. There are no nations. There are no people. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. THERE IS NO WEST. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast, interwoven, interacting, multi-variant, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petrodollars, electrodollars, multidollars, Reichmarks, yen, RUBLES, POUNDS, and sheckels. It is the international system, the currency, which determines the totality of life on the planet. That is the natural order of things today... You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and Dupont and Dow and Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, stoical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments. Just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beal. The world is a business, Mr. Beal, and it has been since man crawled out of the slime" -From the movie "Network"
...has to tangle with 50 different patent holders who each have a claim on some minor aspects of the proposed creation...
Very well put. You have just explained why we are probably 50 years or more behind where we should be. Far too many people believe patents were intended to promote innovation when just the opposite has been happening all along. Computers and the net have made it much more obvious now.
I honestly don't know who's in control here(Al Haig Maybe?) The gov't is the corporation, the corporation is the gov't("Janet is Micheal, Micheal is Janet"). Who knows. One day a guy running Enron into the ground. The next day he's prez of the U.S. After that, it's back to the "private"(primate?) sector to rip off someone else's pension. It's really getting hard to separate the two. Maybe because they're not really separate.
That may or may not be true. More likely he'll just distract our attention with some sex scandal or something. It worked before.
Most of what we hear about the economy are lies used by corporations to drive wages down in order to make us "competitive". They tell us the economy is bad, we must lay off or export our workforce. Overall, things haven't changed much. My Hostess Cupcakes haven't changed prices much over the last five years. I've been able to find good work every summer for the last 7 years. (go south for the winter, come back, repeat) The march to fascism has acclerated somewhat under Bush (more correctly, his masters), but the general direction of the country has been fairly steady.
Dean may say what's on his mind, but I would prefer someone who does what's on his mind. Kucinich comes to mind here (he was my only real hope for REAL change). Unfortunately, the elections are little more than a "Miss America" contest(thanks to the Tee-Vee), and you look at the guy and think "no way". A funny quote that seems appropriate here: "Anything but Nixon, man... a blender. Anything!"
OJ wasn't tried in Texas. Of course Oprah wasn't convicted there either. The point is that some people's greed can be overruled by their racism. It also appears that some people don't like to have that pointed out to them. Very uncomfortable subject, I guess.
If they ever find him guilty of anything, they can make him do community service, like, for instance, he can build "This old Half-way House" for Martha Stewart.
Your example is just rose garden-variety dishonesty...
Emphasis mine
Kinda like "I did not have sex with that woman"? Note: This is not a serious statement. Do not read anything into it. Do not read btween the lines. It doesn't matter who said it. It's still funny, so laugh, dammit.
We can spend all picking out pieces of the good and bad. I'm talking about the general demeanor of the country. In my life the slide started when Kennedy was killed (there went camelot) The sheer ugliness of the Johnson and Nixon years is still prominent in my memories. The lies about Vietnam and Nixon's political enemies list are there for all to see, but it's still business as usual. Before the 80's a one income family with 70 percent(!) of one's paycheck going to the IRS could still keep a very nice house out in the 'burbs. That's all gone now. Clinton was just a bad reaction to Bush Sr. And now with 9/11 the march towards fascism is moving double time. Please don't think for even the briefest second that Bush Lite(Kerry) is going to make any meaningful changes.
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I'm sorry you got modded down for that. I found your comment to be rather articulate and forthcoming (even if you were joking). Even here, on the site of the "enlightened", you'll get slammed if you desecrate their favorite business model. Many people are comfortable with the status quo and don't want any disruptive changes.
Well, I can't add to slipstick's reply without being redundant. He might be making fun of both of us, but I happen to think that his scenario is the more correct one. But we'll never know until we try.
Abolition is the only way. "you just have to trust me"
I can pick the signal out of thin air with two metal sticks sitting on top of the box.
--I don't need a
TV screen
I just stick the aerial
Into my skin
Let the signal
Run through my brain
T.V.O.D. --the normal
The proper use of a patent system is the best way to encourage innovation.
Like communism,(or democracy for that matter) the patent system has never been used "properly". It can't be, considering the kind of people that are, and always have been in charge.
Unfortunately recent sloppy (and possibly corrupt) patent processing is giving the system a poor reputation.
There's nothing recent about it. Robert Fulton, the Wright Bros., Edison, etc were all doing this quite a long time ago.
Don't expect any sane policy when the beneficiaries of the insane policy we're under now are the main contributers to our elected officials.
Linux isn't a big enough "problem" for them yet. Give them time.
(flame)
The only reason I would like to see that happen is to make all of you realize just how evil patents and copyrights are. Maybe when you find yourselves on the wrong end of the "big stick", you might find enlightenment and actually try to put a stop to this madness.
(/flame)
There is absolutely nothing here that could lead you to criticize the entire patent system...
Especially if you're in the litigation business. That's the only business that benefits from the copyright/patent system. Yes, the system promotes innovation, as in innovative lawsuits. There are a lot of people that benefit from this system, but that doesn't make it good. The businesses that would die without it would be replaced by other, probably more beneficial businesses. Then we could get on with innovating and creating things that we actually need. However, this continuing clash of the titans is very entertaining, and probably should be made into a movie, if "Wall Street" didn't already cover the issue.
I don't even open PDF's with my browser anymore, for precisely that reason. It will hang until it's finished downloading. If it's a big file, you'll being waiting for a response for a very long time. Just save the link to your hard drive, and open it with your reader.
...Besides Microsoft could be better anologized to a 'retarded turtle' that is both slow and disoriented/unfocused...
Man, if being retarded, slow, and disoriented can net me 50 bil, I'll start eating a bowl full of lead right now.
In 1948, the same technology would have cost millions.
:-)
Was there even 1 gigabyte of information in existance back then?
To paraphrase:
How much is it if I install Windows?
$45.
How much if I don't install Windows?
You can't afford it.
Because they are unofficial "distributors". They are there to saturate the market with MS products so that the customers are all using and thus dependant on MS. Same goes for the music and movie business over there. But maybe that was a rhetorical question and you already know the answer :-)
Motherboard, bah! I wanna see an OS that doesn't require a license.
Please...feel free to enlighten me...:-)
...we should have been encouraged to depend less on Muslim countries and their exports.
:-)
You're mixing in a lot of silly politics into this. Being concerned importing from or exporting ot Muslims countries is the same thing as puuting the flags on your cars. We are going to continue to sell weapons to and import oil from the middle east as long as it's profitable. It doesn't matter how many Americans they kill. I could never hope to put it better than this...
"You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and people. There are no Russians. There are no nations. There are no people. There are no Arabs. There are no third worlds. THERE IS NO WEST. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast, interwoven, interacting, multi-variant, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petrodollars, electrodollars, multidollars, Reichmarks, yen, RUBLES, POUNDS, and sheckels. It is the international system, the currency, which determines the totality of life on the planet. That is the natural order of things today... You get up on your little 21-inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America; there is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T and Dupont and Dow and Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of today.
What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, stoical decision theories, minimax solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments. Just like we do.
We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beal. The world is a business, Mr. Beal, and it has been since man crawled out of the slime" -From the movie "Network"
That's the editorial "you" of course
...has to tangle with 50 different patent holders who each have a claim on some minor aspects of the proposed creation...
Very well put. You have just explained why we are probably 50 years or more behind where we should be. Far too many people believe patents were intended to promote innovation when just the opposite has been happening all along. Computers and the net have made it much more obvious now.
...how do the new script kiddies get in the club?
I think they're appointed by the president, and after a confirmation hearing, they're in.
That's what you get for thinkin' :-)
I honestly don't know who's in control here(Al Haig Maybe?) The gov't is the corporation, the corporation is the gov't("Janet is Micheal, Micheal is Janet"). Who knows. One day a guy running Enron into the ground. The next day he's prez of the U.S. After that, it's back to the "private"(primate?) sector to rip off someone else's pension. It's really getting hard to separate the two. Maybe because they're not really separate.
Kerry will stop things from getting worse!
That may or may not be true. More likely he'll just distract our attention with some sex scandal or something. It worked before.
Most of what we hear about the economy are lies used by corporations to drive wages down in order to make us "competitive". They tell us the economy is bad, we must lay off or export our workforce. Overall, things haven't changed much. My Hostess Cupcakes haven't changed prices much over the last five years. I've been able to find good work every summer for the last 7 years. (go south for the winter, come back, repeat) The march to fascism has acclerated somewhat under Bush (more correctly, his masters), but the general direction of the country has been fairly steady.
Dean may say what's on his mind, but I would prefer someone who does what's on his mind. Kucinich comes to mind here (he was my only real hope for REAL change). Unfortunately, the elections are little more than a "Miss America" contest(thanks to the Tee-Vee), and you look at the guy and think "no way". A funny quote that seems appropriate here: "Anything but Nixon, man... a blender. Anything!"
...how do they come up with $18,000?
:-)
Maybe it's "powered" by a mac
OJ wasn't tried in Texas. Of course Oprah wasn't convicted there either. The point is that some people's greed can be overruled by their racism. It also appears that some people don't like to have that pointed out to them. Very uncomfortable subject, I guess.
He can bunk with "Tim Taylor"
Yes, we all know that putting people in jail for inconveniencing others is going to make the world a much better place.
Give me Convenience or give me Death -DK
If they ever find him guilty of anything, they can make him do community service, like, for instance, he can build "This old Half-way House" for Martha Stewart.
Your example is just rose garden-variety dishonesty...
Emphasis mine
Kinda like "I did not have sex with that woman"?
Note: This is not a serious statement. Do not read anything into it. Do not read btween the lines. It doesn't matter who said it. It's still funny, so laugh, dammit.
We can spend all picking out pieces of the good and bad. I'm talking about the general demeanor of the country. In my life the slide started when Kennedy was killed (there went camelot) The sheer ugliness of the Johnson and Nixon years is still prominent in my memories. The lies about Vietnam and Nixon's political enemies list are there for all to see, but it's still business as usual. Before the 80's a one income family with 70 percent(!) of one's paycheck going to the IRS could still keep a very nice house out in the 'burbs. That's all gone now. Clinton was just a bad reaction to Bush Sr. And now with 9/11 the march towards fascism is moving double time. Please don't think for even the briefest second that Bush Lite(Kerry) is going to make any meaningful changes.