(oh, shut up already, completely-anti-copyright anarcho-libertarians - go and do a little historical research about every attempt to do away with copyrights and patents completely)
These wouldn't be the same loons that tried to do away with slavery in the 18th century, would they? Or the REAL crazies who thought we should let women vote? Lot's of people benefit from the war in Iraq. Maybe we should perpetuate that so they can continue to benefit and provide us jobs in the oil and arms industries.
Being that gravity and radiation are opposite ends of the same thing(I think), it would seem to me that gravity waves also are limited to light speed. If a mass were to instantly appear, I think the gravity wave would propagate at the speed as radiation(light). IDHAC(I don't have a clue)
Re:how the communications are handled
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A Deep Space Primer
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I posted this thought in another reply...If the "wire" is perfectly rigid, and you push the wire itself, will the whole wire move at the same time?
I understood the part about hitting the stick and so on, but what happens if you simply move the stick? Doesn't the whole stick move at the same time? I didn't read the whole page. I'm going to try to comprehend the rest it now to see if it answers that question.
Wouldn't that assume some compressability? If there were absolutely none, would this still an issue? Obviously this is only theory, but I'm just trying to see what's possible out there.
Ooo...ooo...I will. I realize now that we must do everything to support our current patent/copyright system, so I can cash in on the NEW pet rock I made with a COMPUTER on the INTERNET.:-)
how the communications are handled
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A Deep Space Primer
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· Score: 3, Interesting
veerryy sloowwly. What is it? 20 minutes to mars and back? Light speed won't cut it when we talk about going anywhere farther than the moon. At our current level of comprehension, it's just not practical to go any father than Mars. We need to dream up something entirely different. Something that works like a very long tube filled with ping pong balls for example. Push one into one end and one pops out the other instantly, no matter how long the tube. I'm sure somebody has thought of this and has a name for it, but I sure don't know what it is.
I tend to agree. As long as they get all this "free labor", they're going to "like" Linux. This is also why I'm very concerned about the gazillion patents that IBM has possibly hanging over our heads.
Very good points...and thank you for not feeding me FUD about copyrights providing incentives blah, blah, blah. It's nice to see some people take a reasonable attitude about the problem.
Try to make personal copying and transmission devices illegal by over-extending copyright-type laws.
This is the real reason they are trying to vilify(?) p2p, etc. They want to take away our "transmitter". using piracy and porno as the scapegoat. I do indeed hope that they lose, but I consider 20-30 years optimistic. I hope I'm wrong. I wonder if the real evil lies with gov't using these organizations to maintain ITS control mass communications. It's a real case of "wag the dog". Here we are complaining about RIAA, etc. when they just might tools for someone else.
They must have known the devices would fail prematurely,
Waddya mean "prematurely"? These devices are failing right on schedule. The new parts that you will have to buy will contain all that nice DRM and "trusted computing" stuff that the copyrights holders want us to have.
In order to have freedom of the press individuals, or groups of individuals must necessarily be able to own, and/or have access to the technology that physically, and infrastructurely allows he/she/them to communicate with a mass audience.
Thus, it must logically follow that the freedom of the press must include the right to own the means of communicating with a mass audience.
"Copyrights exist to prevent precisely this. It's to keep the rights of mass communication in the hands of the few. Gov't handed this power over to the corporations to enforce it. We can't have individuals spreading "bad thoughts" to the masses.
Just maybe, possibly, everyone might realize this is the result, no, INTENT of the copyrights/patents system that you all are so addicted to. Just because the constitution and other documents say it's to promote inovation doesn't mean it's so. It's FUD to get everyone to go along and now it's so deeply engrained(?) in us, we don't DARE get rid of it. It's time to free ourselves of this ball and chain. Only then will you see REAL human progress.
Not sure who you're directing this to, but I thought the entire story was newsworthy and appropriate for slashdot. I'm all for Cory and wish him the best of luck.
I'm not sure how true that is anymore. I read one time that the de-salinators(?) on one those cruise ships can produce enough water for a town of up to 10 or 20 thousand people and that might be a conservative figure.
...these 10 technologies aren't as obsolete as you might think.
If you want to see technology that shuold die, we should look at the internal combustion engine(non diesel anyway), coal fired powerplants(there are many alternatives), mining(minerals, including salt can be extracted from sea water or skimmed from the ocean floor, leaving fresh pure drinking water for all).
...collection of single celled symbiotic organisms...
Jelly fish are often decsribed this way. I like to think they're pretty much like other animals, but their "nervous system" is a bit more decentralized.
(oh, shut up already, completely-anti-copyright anarcho-libertarians - go and do a little historical research about every attempt to do away with copyrights and patents completely)
These wouldn't be the same loons that tried to do away with slavery in the 18th century, would they? Or the REAL crazies who thought we should let women vote? Lot's of people benefit from the war in Iraq. Maybe we should perpetuate that so they can continue to benefit and provide us jobs in the oil and arms industries.
Pretty soon, McDonalds and Taco Bell will be record labels of their own
Great...I'd like to download a Quarter Pounder without cheese please. and yes I would like fries with that.
In my theoretical perfectly rigid wire nothing would move faster than the actual push. The whole thing would simply move at the same time. No?
Being that gravity and radiation are opposite ends of the same thing(I think), it would seem to me that gravity waves also are limited to light speed. If a mass were to instantly appear, I think the gravity wave would propagate at the speed as radiation(light). IDHAC(I don't have a clue)
I posted this thought in another reply...If the "wire" is perfectly rigid, and you push the wire itself, will the whole wire move at the same time?
I understood the part about hitting the stick and so on, but what happens if you simply move the stick? Doesn't the whole stick move at the same time? I didn't read the whole page. I'm going to try to comprehend the rest it now to see if it answers that question.
Wouldn't that assume some compressability? If there were absolutely none, would this still an issue? Obviously this is only theory, but I'm just trying to see what's possible out there.
Who'd buy it from them?
:-)
Ooo...ooo...I will. I realize now that we must do everything to support our current patent/copyright system, so I can cash in on the NEW pet rock I made with a COMPUTER on the INTERNET.
veerryy sloowwly. What is it? 20 minutes to mars and back? Light speed won't cut it when we talk about going anywhere farther than the moon. At our current level of comprehension, it's just not practical to go any father than Mars. We need to dream up something entirely different. Something that works like a very long tube filled with ping pong balls for example. Push one into one end and one pops out the other instantly, no matter how long the tube. I'm sure somebody has thought of this and has a name for it, but I sure don't know what it is.
I tend to agree. As long as they get all this "free labor", they're going to "like" Linux. This is also why I'm very concerned about the gazillion patents that IBM has possibly hanging over our heads.
Very good points...and thank you for not feeding me FUD about copyrights providing incentives blah, blah, blah. It's nice to see some people take a reasonable attitude about the problem.
Try to make personal copying and transmission devices illegal by over-extending copyright-type laws.
This is the real reason they are trying to vilify(?) p2p, etc. They want to take away our "transmitter". using piracy and porno as the scapegoat. I do indeed hope that they lose, but I consider 20-30 years optimistic. I hope I'm wrong. I wonder if the real evil lies with gov't using these organizations to maintain ITS control mass communications. It's a real case of "wag the dog". Here we are complaining about RIAA, etc. when they just might tools for someone else.
They must have known the devices would fail prematurely,
Waddya mean "prematurely"? These devices are failing right on schedule. The new parts that you will have to buy will contain all that nice DRM and "trusted computing" stuff that the copyrights holders want us to have.
In order to have freedom of the press individuals, or groups of individuals must necessarily be able to own, and/or have access to the technology that physically, and infrastructurely allows he/she/them to communicate with a mass audience.
Thus, it must logically follow that the freedom of the press must include the right to own the means of communicating with a mass audience.
"Copyrights exist to prevent precisely this. It's to keep the rights of mass communication in the hands of the few. Gov't handed this power over to the corporations to enforce it. We can't have individuals spreading "bad thoughts" to the masses.
will be one with a full "autopilot" with a big machette to chop your hands off if you try to touch anything.
Good: HP likes Linux and open source
Bad: HP supports DRM and "trusted computing"
Somebody please...tell me. Am I sopposed to like HP or hate HP?
Just maybe, possibly, everyone might realize this is the result, no, INTENT of the copyrights/patents system that you all are so addicted to. Just because the constitution and other documents say it's to promote inovation doesn't mean it's so. It's FUD to get everyone to go along and now it's so deeply engrained(?) in us, we don't DARE get rid of it. It's time to free ourselves of this ball and chain. Only then will you see REAL human progress.
This is legislation that will not be enforcable!
Oh, how I wish that was true
Prof. Wagstaff: " What's the password?"
Baravelli: " Aw, you no fool me. Heh! Swordfish."
Prof Wagstaff: "No. I got tired of that. I changed it."
Not sure who you're directing this to, but I thought the entire story was newsworthy and appropriate for slashdot. I'm all for Cory and wish him the best of luck.
I'm not sure how true that is anymore. I read one time that the de-salinators(?) on one those cruise ships can produce enough water for a town of up to 10 or 20 thousand people and that might be a conservative figure.
...these 10 technologies aren't as obsolete as you might think.
If you want to see technology that shuold die, we should look at the internal combustion engine(non diesel anyway), coal fired powerplants(there are many alternatives), mining(minerals, including salt can be extracted from sea water or skimmed from the ocean floor, leaving fresh pure drinking water for all).
...a big box of fanfold paper...
can also be used to hold the door open.
...a Beowulf cluster of swarmbots
:-)
I'm not trolling...honest, but could that be considered redundant?
...collection of single celled symbiotic organisms...
Jelly fish are often decsribed this way. I like to think they're pretty much like other animals, but their "nervous system" is a bit more decentralized.
Life isn't the exception, but the rule.
:-)
All you have to do is look at all the weeds that grow through the cracks in the sidewalk to come to that conclusion