"Frankly, knowing that people are benefitting from my code isn't enough to make me want to spend time writing it, unless I'm getting something else in return...."
Then don't. If suppressing your own ideas makes you feel better, by all means. There are plenty of people in this world who do things just because they like to. I believe they do better work because of that. If all you're looking for is rocognition, I would have doubts about the quality of your work.
"Without copyright, even the BSD licenses wouldn't be enforceable."
Without copyright, the BSD wouldn't exist. Nobody would need it.
"My point is, there's a reason almost nobody releases code immediately into the public domain. It's an all-around bad deal for programmers."
Of course it's bad under the current enviroment we live in. Right now, we need the money, because the wrong people control the resources that would normally belong to everyone.
"...what's to prevent Microsoft from taking all sorts of open-source software, throwing it into Windows..."
Who cares. Let 'em have it. Without IP GPL isn't necessary. If they can make money with out IP, so can we.
"... I'd be pretty fucking pissed if someone took my work and passed it off as their own..."
Why? The work is there for all to use. That's much important than who did it. To me, demanding attribution is karma whoring, little else. I understand that it is natural, though. It's just like animals that show off their pretty colors to get a mate.
We could have more food if we simply stop paying famers to not grow anything in order to keep prices artificially high. And world peace wouldn't hurt either.
Ah...IP...The geeks Vietnam. Until we can understand that the world won't end if we abolish the concept, we will remain in this quagmire(sp) for a long time to come.
Thank you. At least some folks are seeing the truth. We can spew on about the evils of the patent/copyright system, but it seems noone is hearing. They'll keep on screaming for new laws that will never come about, nor should they. Oh well, life in the big city...
"So push it hard,..."
You know what they say..."If you push something hard enough, it will fall over."
"Not to be funny but has anyone considered the implications of all these recent intellectual property rights..."
There's nothing recent about it. The law was designed to do precisely this from the begining. So many people want to maintain the status quo in the hopes of making a million bucks with their "pet rock" inventions.
"Think what Microsoft would do with this. They would kill Open Source, or do their damndest to do it, with the new tool."
And what makes you think that IBM won't do the same thing? Just because they support open source now, doesn't mean they always will. Like that warning about the stock market...Past performance is no guarantee(sp)...
It may be the opposite of what SHOULD happen, but it's precisely why the patent system system was put into place since the beginning. It is designed to stifle the individual inventer. Rich, powerful people use this and copyrights, etc. to maintain their exclusive club, and we suck it all up believing we need it to promote creativity. Wake up, people. You've been "fished in".
Those gaping holes were designed into the system for a reason, and it seems to be woking very well. I can only dream of the great computers and programs and all sorts of other things we would have if not for the greed and coruption of the patent/copyright system that we've had sice the beginning, actually.
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"The safest desktop for a user is a locked down dummy terminal."
I would think that the safest desktop is pen and paper, but that might be too many sharp objects.
"Are their claims vast and allegedly Linux-crippling, or are they focal and refactorable in 2.7?"
No, their claims are half-vast and fecal.
What?...You don't have any frickin' sharks?
that they remove all the SCO code this time. Maybe then it will fit on a floppy again.
"Frankly, knowing that people are benefitting from my code isn't enough to make me want to spend time writing it, unless I'm getting something else in return...."
Then don't. If suppressing your own ideas makes you feel better, by all means. There are plenty of people in this world who do things just because they like to. I believe they do better work because of that. If all you're looking for is rocognition, I would have doubts about the quality of your work.
"Without copyright, even the BSD licenses wouldn't be enforceable."
Without copyright, the BSD wouldn't exist. Nobody would need it.
"My point is, there's a reason almost nobody releases code immediately into the public domain. It's an all-around bad deal for programmers."
Of course it's bad under the current enviroment we live in. Right now, we need the money, because the wrong people control the resources that would normally belong to everyone.
Absolutely...If it's patented, let's hope it dies a swift death.
"...what's to prevent Microsoft from taking all sorts of open-source software, throwing it into Windows..."
Who cares. Let 'em have it. Without IP GPL isn't necessary. If they can make money with out IP, so can we.
"... I'd be pretty fucking pissed if someone took my work and passed it off as their own..."
Why? The work is there for all to use. That's much important than who did it. To me, demanding attribution is karma whoring, little else. I understand that it is natural, though. It's just like animals that show off their pretty colors to get a mate.
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must be fascinating. Everyone reading it and nobody posting.
fp?
We could have more food if we simply stop paying famers to not grow anything in order to keep prices artificially high. And world peace wouldn't hurt either.
"...should convince holdout countries that genetically modified plants are a good thing."
For this purpose, yes. For food and livestock it's not necessary, unless you're Monsanto or somebody like them.
Ah...IP...The geeks Vietnam. Until we can understand that the world won't end if we abolish the concept, we will remain in this quagmire(sp) for a long time to come.
to get a really good patent attorney.
you think?
Thank you. At least some folks are seeing the truth. We can spew on about the evils of the patent/copyright system, but it seems noone is hearing. They'll keep on screaming for new laws that will never come about, nor should they. Oh well, life in the big city...
"So push it hard,..."
You know what they say..."If you push something hard enough, it will fall over."
"Not to be funny but has anyone considered the implications of all these recent intellectual property rights..."
There's nothing recent about it. The law was designed to do precisely this from the begining. So many people want to maintain the status quo in the hopes of making a million bucks with their "pet rock" inventions.
a judge has seen how ridiculous our patent system is.
Now if only the rest of us can do the same.
"Back in the real world, FreeDOS is about as useful as a deep-freeze in the Arctic circle."
If it wasn't for that deep freeze, New York and L.A. Might be under water.
Maybe they're sending a message to SCO also, or do they "own" that too?
Actually the thing crashed with the designer on board and killed him. I don't know if it exploded.
But the pinto can fly
"Think what Microsoft would do with this. They would kill Open Source, or do their damndest to do it, with the new tool."
And what makes you think that IBM won't do the same thing? Just because they support open source now, doesn't mean they always will. Like that warning about the stock market...Past performance is no guarantee(sp)...
Well, It has been that way since laws were "invented". I wonder if anybody patented "laws".
It may be the opposite of what SHOULD happen, but it's precisely why the patent system system was put into place since the beginning. It is designed to stifle the individual inventer. Rich, powerful people use this and copyrights, etc. to maintain their exclusive club, and we suck it all up believing we need it to promote creativity. Wake up, people. You've been "fished in".
Those gaping holes were designed into the system for a reason, and it seems to be woking very well. I can only dream of the great computers and programs and all sorts of other things we would have if not for the greed and coruption of the patent/copyright system that we've had sice the beginning, actually.