then what, nothing in OSS land takes responsibility for itself
Red Hat does. Even Ubuntu will to some extent. Any time you want you can get paid support for OSS and, given the right support contract and money they really will take care of you properly. The definitely take responsibility for the things they promise. (N.B. your two dollar desktop license really doesn't promise much at all).
You don't even need paid support. Hire a computer programmer and tell him to fix it and part of his job is to upstream it. He needs to work well with upstream software projects. Move him from project to project. There you go.
The Gap Cycle - The Real Story explains on the back cover in one paragraph what happened. The inside of the book explains in a short run what happened, expanding on the summary to explain the REAL story. Then it goes back and explains what REALLY happened. Then finally he goes all the way back and tells the whole story, the REAL story, from beginning to end, with the rest of the 3/4 of the (short) book. And THAT... is the REAL story.
Fridge logic: The plot twists and deepens and thickens as you read, which is normal. If you think about it when you're done, though, the natural progression of the plot essentially unseats a whole lot of shit repeatedly throughout the series--when you get near the end, what you understand as the sequence of events that were explained in the beginning is something wholly different. It takes the entire fucking 2500 page series to actually get the REAL story.
Child pornography--which is not dangerous, but rather a symptom of a pre-existing form of child abuse which is considered dangerous and which cannot be called a symptom or byproduct of another physical, harmful action (it's a symptom of a psychological condition, which is internal to a person and harmful to no one else until an action is taken).
Grooming and enticement of children--the real danger that precedes (and, often, doesn't precede) the above. Easier and safer in real life, since you tend to know a lot of children and you know they're not FBI agents and it's harder to monitor everyone arbitrarily in real life. Proliferated with the Internet to greater incidence anyway.
Identity theft--which occurs in the real world easily enough, but is much easier to profit from and has a greater market with the Internet.
Stupid people--getting stupider all the time, now twice as stupid with Internet, going out to vote based on their stupidity. Stupid enough to threaten their own privacy and post pictures of their friends everywhere and talk about shit openly about their friends, so they threaten everyone else's privacy.
People selling you shit.
The list goes on and yet the biggest threat of the internet is CYBERWARFARE?!
Why can't the rootkit modify the Windows kernel? The point is that the UEFI knows it's handing over to something secure; if you can hand over to a shim, which then hands over to a kernel which sets up a kexec, which loads a modified kernel (Windows, Linux, OSX, BSD), which doesn't check if it got securely started, then... what?
Typically, keys are cached when retrieved. When you re-obtain them, and they change, you get notified; or at least a log is kept. Some people are nosy and verify this. Unless you're being targeted very, very specifically... yeah. Not only that, but such fuckery creates evidence which persists, so there is a risk of being caught--which will happen eventually, and once you've done it once people will distrust you forever.
The CA just signs your public key. They don't have access to the bit of secret needed to actually snoop your traffic; what they can do is sign another piece of secret claiming to belong to you, which is highly visible and obvious.
Except they implemented an "Increases your Security" feature that prevents you from booting another OS. Then they sign a loader that boots any other OS. I could get the Linux shim loader to boot FreeBSD easy enough--Linux can boot FreeBSD by kexec, after all. A little quick-and-dirty will make it boot fine.
SID is the unstable Debian--the development branch where anything can change, anything can break, and eventually it gets snapshot and marked "RELEASE". This isn't really a release anymore than Fedora Rawhide.
Nice job trying to counter-example my argument about how stable production releases work by showing that shit breaks in unstable alpha development cycle. You'll convince a few dumb people who don't know anything about Debian or can't decipher what's in the e-mail at all that way.
Pretty much. It's a political thing: They need to get it out before people go from "angryturfing" to "calm down to rational logic and realize this is just stupid." Kind of like how you have to shove your cock down a woman's throat while she's still crying, instead of giving her time to realize she can just bite your dick off. Canonical is raping the userbase.
Does the definition really matter? As soon as we deviate from "what provides the most net-positive objective benefit for me" to... anything, we're talking about what is and isn't "good for the soul."
You can argue that IF I get caught doing something bad I go to prison or face penalties, but that's a big if. If I can knock up married women and skip town, spread HIV (and with all the sex partners those sluts have, how will they know they got it from me?), get girls drunk at parties and nail them and nobody knows who fucked who, and so on, each of these actions is a net positive for me: I'm getting laid. Steal shit when nobody's looking, I'm getting richer. If I'm careful I don't get caught.
The moment you move from why society has rules to why I, personally, should follow the rules if I can get away with breaking them, we're discussing something not scientific. Scientifically, I should be violating the rules every chance I get if there's a profit in it. Liars and deviants gain larger and more dynamic and influential social groups. Drug addicts and dealers and serial rapists face consequences; the guy who gets your wife drunk and fucks her in the bathroom at the bar and knocks her up and she can't remember you and nobody saw it... he's in the clear, she probably won't tell you, and fuck yeah doesn't matter had sex!
People keep saying getting Jesus back in schools would be good for this country, versus how bibles don't belong in schools. Zen Buddhism would make a nice middle ground, if you could tell the difference between philosophy and religion--or even between "shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and "Politicians have endorsed religion and the local school district has distributed bibles". (If congress shall make no law... how have we managed to ban religious displays in federal court houses, when Congress only makes legislation and the Court only judges action to be taken in favor of legislation, with the Executive Branch left to write policy and create government functions necessary to execute that which is prescribed by enacted legislation?)
And there's your spirituality: A book that says it's good for the nature of your being to... not be a complete fucktwit asshole. What do you mean, "the nature of my being"? Getting laid versus not getting laid IS the nature of my physical, biological, scientific being, isn't it?
Interesting. I guess grandiose satire doesn't carry well. Although satire is by nature semi-serious; I think I made some good points as well. But you provide some fine wisdom.
It's a Wal-Mart thing. Nice things are a waste of money, and you need to retire one day. I buy $20 3-packs of socks that are worn and inelastic 4 years later; I was buying $8 8-packs that would have holes in them in 1-2 washes, spending $60/year instead of $60/3year. People are like... why do you need expensive *socks*? Look, $8 at Wal-Mart.
Meanwhile my salary is lower but my debt is lower and I'm acquiring assets at higher quality at a much higher rate. People make $20k/year more than me, pay half as much in taxes 'cause married, no kids yet, and they're not doing a very good job of preparing financially for kids 'cause they can't afford shit. I rented, then bought a house; they bought houses, want to move to a bigger house, but are currently poorer than me--because I "threw my money away" in rent, while they "built an asset" paying more per month in interest, taxes, and homeowner's insurance (mine is $1000/year vs my $100/year renter's insurance) than I ever did in rent and insurance. They don't understand how they can sell their house and come away with so very, very little to offset the debt of buying the next house.
In other news, Catholics want you to read about Jesus. Atheists want you to stop being superstitious. Americans want to drop soldiers into your country, blow a bunch of shit up, kill your leaders, establish democracy, and show you how much better it is than the non-American stuff you have.
No it's more like if I want a piano, people feel it's their duty to tell me to Walmartize my purchase: get some cheap shit. I want something nice. That makes me a horrible person for somehow not knowing how to spend money correctly, or for not patronizing their favorite brand, or for buying something they don't see a value in.
Like the bike I got takes me about 60% as much energy to move as the $500 bike I had--it's like the bike isn't even there--and I can make it 13 miles to work in 50 minutes instead of 2 hours (energy expenditure is not linearly related to time, somehow). It's lighter, the geometry is better, the gearing is better, it places less stress on the rider so my muscles don't spend as much energy trying to support my body and so I don't develop shit like back or joint pain. People see I bought a bike and make it their business to lecture me and get all haughty and superior about how it's a waste of money and I'm obviously stupid and people shouldn't be allowed to buy shit like that if they're that stupid they can't manage their money when something 1/10 as expensive is sitting right there that's just as good.
Pulling from this experience as life experience is justifiable in context. Yes, showcasing all my awesome shit is a side effect. But hey, I have a bicycle; the moment I go outside, I'm showcasing my awesome shit. Ditto if you have a Porsche--and let's face it, a Porsche isn't just a badge; it's an awesome car to drive. A Cadillac is a badge; a Cadillac CTS-V is an awesome car to drive (I hate GM, but yeah). Much of Pontiac distinctly weren't badges, but were pretty nice cars to drive. An MX-5 will get you ridiculed for completely different reasons than coming home with a new BMW in da hood on your McDonalds paycheck will, but that's an awesome car to drive. People are looking.
Walmartize and ridicule for other reasons. Granite/Quartz is considered the "everyone has it" countertop, like stainless steel appliances. Hardwood floor is considered top-quality... and then people start telling you to get laminate floating floor because "it's cheaper and looks just as good." You do not know what hardwood is.
Did I just miss the opportunity to point out that Girls Gone Wild (among other shit) is essentially people doing absolutely retarded shit they don't want anyone to ever see specifically because there's a camera around? Like, the actual ethics behind Girls Gone Wild is that people immediately become jackasses when there's a camera around; when there's not a camera around, they regain full baseline understanding that they never want a video record of any of that kind of shit. Ask a random girl to show you her tits or let you take a pic, you get smashed in the face with a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick; show up with a camera and start videoing shit, get the hose, wet t-shirt contest, girls start ripping their tops off. All because there's a camera!
I mean like in Russia where 97% of vehicles have a dash cam and you can put together an every-angle-view 24/7 continuously of 100% of what's visible from the road.
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Yes. Project Scope Management would have handled this.
then what, nothing in OSS land takes responsibility for itself
Red Hat does. Even Ubuntu will to some extent. Any time you want you can get paid support for OSS and, given the right support contract and money they really will take care of you properly. The definitely take responsibility for the things they promise. (N.B. your two dollar desktop license really doesn't promise much at all).
You don't even need paid support. Hire a computer programmer and tell him to fix it and part of his job is to upstream it. He needs to work well with upstream software projects. Move him from project to project. There you go.
I know. Getting XBox One out by the Fourth of July? Hilarity. WHY?
Yeah if you can finish it by the end of the year.
I can't find anything, but i can recommend Sanderson. The Way of Kings is a masterpiece, as is Mistborn.
The Gap Cycle - The Real Story explains on the back cover in one paragraph what happened. The inside of the book explains in a short run what happened, expanding on the summary to explain the REAL story. Then it goes back and explains what REALLY happened. Then finally he goes all the way back and tells the whole story, the REAL story, from beginning to end, with the rest of the 3/4 of the (short) book. And THAT ... is the REAL story.
Fridge logic: The plot twists and deepens and thickens as you read, which is normal. If you think about it when you're done, though, the natural progression of the plot essentially unseats a whole lot of shit repeatedly throughout the series--when you get near the end, what you understand as the sequence of events that were explained in the beginning is something wholly different. It takes the entire fucking 2500 page series to actually get the REAL story.
Child pornography--which is not dangerous, but rather a symptom of a pre-existing form of child abuse which is considered dangerous and which cannot be called a symptom or byproduct of another physical, harmful action (it's a symptom of a psychological condition, which is internal to a person and harmful to no one else until an action is taken).
Grooming and enticement of children--the real danger that precedes (and, often, doesn't precede) the above. Easier and safer in real life, since you tend to know a lot of children and you know they're not FBI agents and it's harder to monitor everyone arbitrarily in real life. Proliferated with the Internet to greater incidence anyway.
Identity theft--which occurs in the real world easily enough, but is much easier to profit from and has a greater market with the Internet.
Stupid people--getting stupider all the time, now twice as stupid with Internet, going out to vote based on their stupidity. Stupid enough to threaten their own privacy and post pictures of their friends everywhere and talk about shit openly about their friends, so they threaten everyone else's privacy.
People selling you shit.
The list goes on and yet the biggest threat of the internet is CYBERWARFARE?!
Why can't the rootkit modify the Windows kernel? The point is that the UEFI knows it's handing over to something secure; if you can hand over to a shim, which then hands over to a kernel which sets up a kexec, which loads a modified kernel (Windows, Linux, OSX, BSD), which doesn't check if it got securely started, then... what?
Typically, keys are cached when retrieved. When you re-obtain them, and they change, you get notified; or at least a log is kept. Some people are nosy and verify this. Unless you're being targeted very, very specifically... yeah. Not only that, but such fuckery creates evidence which persists, so there is a risk of being caught--which will happen eventually, and once you've done it once people will distrust you forever.
But you can use any initrd. So your kernel loads, loads up the initrd, which kexec -l myshit, and kexecs your rootkit.
You mean the choice that other people shouldn't be able to use your stuff without paying you, right?
The CA just signs your public key. They don't have access to the bit of secret needed to actually snoop your traffic; what they can do is sign another piece of secret claiming to belong to you, which is highly visible and obvious.
Except they implemented an "Increases your Security" feature that prevents you from booting another OS. Then they sign a loader that boots any other OS. I could get the Linux shim loader to boot FreeBSD easy enough--Linux can boot FreeBSD by kexec, after all. A little quick-and-dirty will make it boot fine.
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Debian Release: squeeze/sid
SID is the unstable Debian--the development branch where anything can change, anything can break, and eventually it gets snapshot and marked "RELEASE". This isn't really a release anymore than Fedora Rawhide.
Nice job trying to counter-example my argument about how stable production releases work by showing that shit breaks in unstable alpha development cycle. You'll convince a few dumb people who don't know anything about Debian or can't decipher what's in the e-mail at all that way.
Pretty much. It's a political thing: They need to get it out before people go from "angryturfing" to "calm down to rational logic and realize this is just stupid." Kind of like how you have to shove your cock down a woman's throat while she's still crying, instead of giving her time to realize she can just bite your dick off. Canonical is raping the userbase.
So, because your mind is inadequate to process a concept, I'm not willing to respond?
I want counter tops that don't dent or wear :)
Does the definition really matter? As soon as we deviate from "what provides the most net-positive objective benefit for me" to... anything, we're talking about what is and isn't "good for the soul."
You can argue that IF I get caught doing something bad I go to prison or face penalties, but that's a big if. If I can knock up married women and skip town, spread HIV (and with all the sex partners those sluts have, how will they know they got it from me?), get girls drunk at parties and nail them and nobody knows who fucked who, and so on, each of these actions is a net positive for me: I'm getting laid. Steal shit when nobody's looking, I'm getting richer. If I'm careful I don't get caught.
The moment you move from why society has rules to why I, personally, should follow the rules if I can get away with breaking them, we're discussing something not scientific. Scientifically, I should be violating the rules every chance I get if there's a profit in it. Liars and deviants gain larger and more dynamic and influential social groups. Drug addicts and dealers and serial rapists face consequences; the guy who gets your wife drunk and fucks her in the bathroom at the bar and knocks her up and she can't remember you and nobody saw it... he's in the clear, she probably won't tell you, and fuck yeah doesn't matter had sex!
People keep saying getting Jesus back in schools would be good for this country, versus how bibles don't belong in schools. Zen Buddhism would make a nice middle ground, if you could tell the difference between philosophy and religion--or even between "shall make no law respecting the establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" and "Politicians have endorsed religion and the local school district has distributed bibles". (If congress shall make no law... how have we managed to ban religious displays in federal court houses, when Congress only makes legislation and the Court only judges action to be taken in favor of legislation, with the Executive Branch left to write policy and create government functions necessary to execute that which is prescribed by enacted legislation?)
And there's your spirituality: A book that says it's good for the nature of your being to... not be a complete fucktwit asshole. What do you mean, "the nature of my being"? Getting laid versus not getting laid IS the nature of my physical, biological, scientific being, isn't it?
Interesting. I guess grandiose satire doesn't carry well. Although satire is by nature semi-serious; I think I made some good points as well. But you provide some fine wisdom.
Meanwhile my salary is lower but my debt is lower and I'm acquiring assets at higher quality at a much higher rate. People make $20k/year more than me, pay half as much in taxes 'cause married, no kids yet, and they're not doing a very good job of preparing financially for kids 'cause they can't afford shit. I rented, then bought a house; they bought houses, want to move to a bigger house, but are currently poorer than me--because I "threw my money away" in rent, while they "built an asset" paying more per month in interest, taxes, and homeowner's insurance (mine is $1000/year vs my $100/year renter's insurance) than I ever did in rent and insurance. They don't understand how they can sell their house and come away with so very, very little to offset the debt of buying the next house.
In other news, Catholics want you to read about Jesus. Atheists want you to stop being superstitious. Americans want to drop soldiers into your country, blow a bunch of shit up, kill your leaders, establish democracy, and show you how much better it is than the non-American stuff you have.
No it's more like if I want a piano, people feel it's their duty to tell me to Walmartize my purchase: get some cheap shit. I want something nice. That makes me a horrible person for somehow not knowing how to spend money correctly, or for not patronizing their favorite brand, or for buying something they don't see a value in.
Like the bike I got takes me about 60% as much energy to move as the $500 bike I had--it's like the bike isn't even there--and I can make it 13 miles to work in 50 minutes instead of 2 hours (energy expenditure is not linearly related to time, somehow). It's lighter, the geometry is better, the gearing is better, it places less stress on the rider so my muscles don't spend as much energy trying to support my body and so I don't develop shit like back or joint pain. People see I bought a bike and make it their business to lecture me and get all haughty and superior about how it's a waste of money and I'm obviously stupid and people shouldn't be allowed to buy shit like that if they're that stupid they can't manage their money when something 1/10 as expensive is sitting right there that's just as good.
Pulling from this experience as life experience is justifiable in context. Yes, showcasing all my awesome shit is a side effect. But hey, I have a bicycle; the moment I go outside, I'm showcasing my awesome shit. Ditto if you have a Porsche--and let's face it, a Porsche isn't just a badge; it's an awesome car to drive. A Cadillac is a badge; a Cadillac CTS-V is an awesome car to drive (I hate GM, but yeah). Much of Pontiac distinctly weren't badges, but were pretty nice cars to drive. An MX-5 will get you ridiculed for completely different reasons than coming home with a new BMW in da hood on your McDonalds paycheck will, but that's an awesome car to drive. People are looking.
Walmartize and ridicule for other reasons. Granite/Quartz is considered the "everyone has it" countertop, like stainless steel appliances. Hardwood floor is considered top-quality... and then people start telling you to get laminate floating floor because "it's cheaper and looks just as good." You do not know what hardwood is.
This is true. Quartz is pretty great.
Did I just miss the opportunity to point out that Girls Gone Wild (among other shit) is essentially people doing absolutely retarded shit they don't want anyone to ever see specifically because there's a camera around? Like, the actual ethics behind Girls Gone Wild is that people immediately become jackasses when there's a camera around; when there's not a camera around, they regain full baseline understanding that they never want a video record of any of that kind of shit. Ask a random girl to show you her tits or let you take a pic, you get smashed in the face with a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick; show up with a camera and start videoing shit, get the hose, wet t-shirt contest, girls start ripping their tops off. All because there's a camera!
OK, glass!
Snap a pic of her panties!
I mean like in Russia where 97% of vehicles have a dash cam and you can put together an every-angle-view 24/7 continuously of 100% of what's visible from the road.