Step 1) Buy a bunch of Seagate drives and install in them in a RAID backup, connect to system and wait the required week for all drives to fail. Step 2) ??? Step 3) PROFIT!!!
I guess what I am saying is stop blaming games for this behavior, there is already a rating system in place so that they aren't supposed to be able to play them anyway. If mom buys the game for their kid, blame mom, not the game. (not that I think you can blame games in the first place, just saying we've been through this already...)
Ya I thought about that, but then again we could have just sent it to her address on her drivers license really. If it was her parents place it might have taken a bit longer for her to get it, or we could have turned it into the resort, and it likely would have found its way back, but might take longer as well. Though at least the way we did it we were certain...
However that doesn't stop some less honest people from simply wiping the phone and selling on ebay or something.
I guess what I am saying, is maybe it should be then if you want to asses blame like this. Of course you can say the exact same thing (same issue I think) about videos and movies, yet that is not illegal either so far as I know. So if parents want to rent a R rated movie for their 10 year old, then go right ahead. Then when the kid goes out and kills a bunch of people, don't blame movies, or video games, blame bad parents.
For a buddy's bachelor party we went white water rafting, and rented a huge cabin for the weekend. When we first arrived, we were all staking out beds (18 of us), and some of them were of the slide under the couch futon variety. While we were pulling one out, we found a woman's wallet from the previous occupants. It belonged to a girl in her early 20's that was clearly there partying it up. Her wallet contained everything, ID, credit cards, iPhone, etc.. (even a little white baggy of nose candy). Anyway the iPhone was locked, but one of the guys took it and said (his words not mine) "lets see how dumb this bitch is...". He typed 1,2,3,4 into the iPhone and nothing. Then he said, hey hand me her ID (which all the guys were checking out as she was rather hot), and then typed in her birthday as found on her ID into the iPhone... Click. Two tries. Her phone had plenty of photos of her and her girl friends which we all checked out. Anyway in the end we flushed her baggy, and using the contacts of her iPhone called up her Mom and some of her friends to get hold of her, told her we found her stuff, got her address and at the conclusion of our weekend mailed her stuff back to her. When we talked to her on the phone, we suggested she change her password to something a little stronger.
Moral of the story, 1) People pick stupid passwords anyway, you hardly need some sophisticated password cracking system in many cases, 2) don't loose your iPhone with a stupid password at a party resort unless you want a bunch of stupid guys ogling your photos... We also may have taken a photo of one of the guys on the toilet using her phone, not sure if that ever got erased or not...
Sounds oddly like the logic of drowning witches. If they drown, they are innocent (but dead), and if they float they are witches and burned alive.
It also sounds like some alien races new technology to bombard Earth with large concussive impacts, and if a "red mist" is thrown up in place of potential life, they they will have discovered life.
No one seems to pay any attention to the rating system anyway. If they do, some Mom that doesn't want to here their kid scream about it anymore just buys its for them. The enforcement of the rating system is what is broken, not the games themselves. What would you think about a store selling smokes and booze to minors? Having Mon go in and buy smokes and booze for their kids? Porn? I'm sure it happens, but one is taken more serious than the other. If its that big an issue, quit bitching about it and get serious about enforcement.
I'm old enough I don't care, I can buy whatever games I want!
Just like anything I suppose. I know one of the beers I drink is sold as a Premium Import and thus more expensive, when in actual fact it is brewed here now. Jerks!
Ya I was hit with the Pin issue as well my last upgrade. Had to buy a new PSU to have the 4 pin MB connector.
If I have learned anything over the years is to just get whatever you need whenever you need it. You can try to time it a little bit, but if you try to hard you'll just go crazy. Its just easier to accept the fact that as SOON as you finish buying your new system, either A) Some new technology will come out the following week making all your crap obsolete, and B) will drop the cost of said components by like 50%. Such has been my general luck anyway. Which makes me glad about some choices, buying really good stuff, that doesn't change as fast as the rest of the technology (like speakers) really allow for re-usability. Other items, while not getting all that better, can get bigger and cost less the more you put them off, HD and monitors fall into that category. For much of the design stuff, you are much at the whim of the companies that make the stuff, and they do it to make money, so socket changes, RAM specifications, power requirements, etc... you have little control over. Though the PSU thing pisses me off a bit also, as that technology hasn't exactly changed a lot either, they just keep adding specifications for different connectors which your old PSU won't have but if it did would likely be perfectly capable. I bet they could have come up with a universal standard that people would have to develop for if they didn't just make so much money from people having to replace working parts do to specification changes over and over again.
Ya I have been looking at the 460's myself, haven't seen the 1GB version below 170$ though (seen the 700mb one for 140$), I'm running an ATI X1950 Pro so just about anything is better now. Though I have noticed regardless of dollar up here in Canada it is always a little more expensive. For example, when Canadian dollar is at par or higher than the US, and look at prices for Newegg.com VS Newegg.ca, not that will piss u off! Same goes for books, where I pay 20$ to the US 15$ regardless if my Canadian dollar is actually worth more.... not sure how they get away with it.
Also barely restrained violence towards putting fist through my monitor, which is sad, because really its not the monitors fault, he is just showing me stuff. Sorry monitor... *shakes fist at computer case* "One of these days... BANG ZOOM!"
My current upgrade is screwed because of socket change and DDR2->DDR3. That is more than a slight piss off, not to mention a few bucks. I never really looked at the i7 (which I would consider high end), more so at the mid range market with the i5. Which isn't so expensive nor are the MB's. I also shop in the 150-200$ range for video cards, again pretty mid range. I think this is where you get the most value.
Anyway I won't argue that AMD has its place, as if I recall my benchmarks properly AMD does beat Intel in certain areas. One area that Intel has trumped them in is Video games pretty consistently. Sure there are a few that either A) don't matter, or B) AMD comes out on top, but for the most part its all Intel.
I don't usually buy things on on ideology (or at least not very often), and I am all about value, and what best works for you. If your buying a PC to do video editing, and AMD scored best, then by all means get AMD. If your primary use is likely playing Video games, then to me it makes more sense to buy Intel.
That said I remember when I wanted an AMD (it was some time ago) and I really wish they had a more competitive product (or superior) as I would like to give them a try. Not to mention it would help keep Intel prices lower.
I would say go to technical college then. Have fun at DeVry. Those that want a more well rounded education and not just training, will benefit from your absence.
I think people forget that education isn't just to prepare you for a job, but rather for life and to become a better more educated person.
You talk of "paper mills", but in actuality your ideal university is exactly that, churning out diploma's of peons ready to be sent to their corporate cubes.
That's not to say that I would particularly like to take "jazz history", however that is why they are called "electives". You get to choose what interests you outside of your principle discipline. What is not to like? I think taking things like Classical History and Astronomy during my CS degree made university more fun any interesting, not to mention meeting more people of the opposite sex.
AMD is fine, remember they are also ATI, so a bit diversified. However they do need to get their CPU/Chipset ass in gear or get left behind in the dust. About the only thing I would buy AMD for in the CPU/Chipset market right now is the low end, where performance really doesn't matter much at all, only price. Even then I might think twice. I think their GPU is competitive right now however and is doing just fine. In the CPU they really need to come out with a game changer, something really significant. I mean Intel has blown them out of the water three times now in a row. This little business with the faulty chipset is their only saving grace, a cheer must have went up at AMD HQ the day that was announced. Still without anything new and significant of their own, they risk becoming irrelevant.
Also the people that don't want it are also the type that have cottages on that shore. The type of people that have cottage on that shore tend to be wealthy and well connected.
Same thing up in Canada. There have been attempts for over 10 years to get wind power off Toronto, and all have failed due to NIMBY. Basically a Cottage Association with deep pockets and influential members masquerading as an environmental group to basically torpedo any attempt to put in wind power. When it comes down to it, they think they are aesthetically ugly, and wreak their view of the water, and may effect they value of their cottages.
So long as it is priced accordingly (i.e. discount) and the specifications are transparent (i.e. they don't try to trick people), then that is fine, I can base my decision to buy on features, which will include one less PCI slot than others due to extra card etc...
If I was Intel, I would be hesitant to do this however (outside of laptops that are unaffected), as it is ripe for possible abuse by less reputable manufactures, and in the end it will be Intel's reputation at stake.
If a Laptop uses a faulty chipset, but is only configured to use the two 6GB SATA ports, it will be entirely unaffected by the bug, as it only effects the 3GB SATA ports. Since there is really no way for the consumer to actually use the 3GB ports, it will never have the bug problem.
So yes in cases like that, it makes sense to keep shipping. Those laptops are perfectly fine.
When I read the title I was a bit leery until I thought about it for a second. I know when I buy my new desktop one eventually, I don't want there to be a chance I get a faulty one!
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Step 1) Buy a bunch of Seagate drives and install in them in a RAID backup, connect to system and wait the required week for all drives to fail.
Step 2) ???
Step 3) PROFIT!!!
What no Holy Ghost in the Machine?
I guess what I am saying is stop blaming games for this behavior, there is already a rating system in place so that they aren't supposed to be able to play them anyway. If mom buys the game for their kid, blame mom, not the game. (not that I think you can blame games in the first place, just saying we've been through this already...)
Ya I thought about that, but then again we could have just sent it to her address on her drivers license really. If it was her parents place it might have taken a bit longer for her to get it, or we could have turned it into the resort, and it likely would have found its way back, but might take longer as well. Though at least the way we did it we were certain...
However that doesn't stop some less honest people from simply wiping the phone and selling on ebay or something.
I guess what I am saying, is maybe it should be then if you want to asses blame like this. Of course you can say the exact same thing (same issue I think) about videos and movies, yet that is not illegal either so far as I know. So if parents want to rent a R rated movie for their 10 year old, then go right ahead. Then when the kid goes out and kills a bunch of people, don't blame movies, or video games, blame bad parents.
For a buddy's bachelor party we went white water rafting, and rented a huge cabin for the weekend. When we first arrived, we were all staking out beds (18 of us), and some of them were of the slide under the couch futon variety. While we were pulling one out, we found a woman's wallet from the previous occupants. It belonged to a girl in her early 20's that was clearly there partying it up. Her wallet contained everything, ID, credit cards, iPhone, etc.. (even a little white baggy of nose candy). Anyway the iPhone was locked, but one of the guys took it and said (his words not mine) "lets see how dumb this bitch is...". He typed 1,2,3,4 into the iPhone and nothing. Then he said, hey hand me her ID (which all the guys were checking out as she was rather hot), and then typed in her birthday as found on her ID into the iPhone... Click. Two tries. Her phone had plenty of photos of her and her girl friends which we all checked out. Anyway in the end we flushed her baggy, and using the contacts of her iPhone called up her Mom and some of her friends to get hold of her, told her we found her stuff, got her address and at the conclusion of our weekend mailed her stuff back to her. When we talked to her on the phone, we suggested she change her password to something a little stronger.
Moral of the story, 1) People pick stupid passwords anyway, you hardly need some sophisticated password cracking system in many cases, 2) don't loose your iPhone with a stupid password at a party resort unless you want a bunch of stupid guys ogling your photos... We also may have taken a photo of one of the guys on the toilet using her phone, not sure if that ever got erased or not...
Sounds oddly like the logic of drowning witches. If they drown, they are innocent (but dead), and if they float they are witches and burned alive.
It also sounds like some alien races new technology to bombard Earth with large concussive impacts, and if a "red mist" is thrown up in place of potential life, they they will have discovered life.
No one seems to pay any attention to the rating system anyway. If they do, some Mom that doesn't want to here their kid scream about it anymore just buys its for them. The enforcement of the rating system is what is broken, not the games themselves. What would you think about a store selling smokes and booze to minors? Having Mon go in and buy smokes and booze for their kids? Porn? I'm sure it happens, but one is taken more serious than the other. If its that big an issue, quit bitching about it and get serious about enforcement.
I'm old enough I don't care, I can buy whatever games I want!
Agree. This is building infrastructure. In 40-50 years how much is it going to cost to drive? To fly? I doubt there will be electric airplanes.
Lantancy...
There is a good reason why the internet isn't provided by satellites...
RIAA, I hope Google takes a sack full of money and hits you in the face with it. SACK ATTACK! :)
Just like anything I suppose. I know one of the beers I drink is sold as a Premium Import and thus more expensive, when in actual fact it is brewed here now. Jerks!
A JAXA satellite was struck with orbital debris and now we have a bunch of very large fish net type objects in orbit.
When reached for comment JAXA said this in an official release: "@$#^&!"
Ya I was hit with the Pin issue as well my last upgrade. Had to buy a new PSU to have the 4 pin MB connector.
If I have learned anything over the years is to just get whatever you need whenever you need it. You can try to time it a little bit, but if you try to hard you'll just go crazy. Its just easier to accept the fact that as SOON as you finish buying your new system, either A) Some new technology will come out the following week making all your crap obsolete, and B) will drop the cost of said components by like 50%. Such has been my general luck anyway. Which makes me glad about some choices, buying really good stuff, that doesn't change as fast as the rest of the technology (like speakers) really allow for re-usability. Other items, while not getting all that better, can get bigger and cost less the more you put them off, HD and monitors fall into that category. For much of the design stuff, you are much at the whim of the companies that make the stuff, and they do it to make money, so socket changes, RAM specifications, power requirements, etc... you have little control over. Though the PSU thing pisses me off a bit also, as that technology hasn't exactly changed a lot either, they just keep adding specifications for different connectors which your old PSU won't have but if it did would likely be perfectly capable. I bet they could have come up with a universal standard that people would have to develop for if they didn't just make so much money from people having to replace working parts do to specification changes over and over again.
Ya I have been looking at the 460's myself, haven't seen the 1GB version below 170$ though (seen the 700mb one for 140$), I'm running an ATI X1950 Pro so just about anything is better now. Though I have noticed regardless of dollar up here in Canada it is always a little more expensive. For example, when Canadian dollar is at par or higher than the US, and look at prices for Newegg.com VS Newegg.ca, not that will piss u off! Same goes for books, where I pay 20$ to the US 15$ regardless if my Canadian dollar is actually worth more.... not sure how they get away with it.
I must be having one of those days, but for whatever reason I find that statement hilarious. Perhaps because it describes so many things.
"Why no, its not completely useless, only mostly useless... proceed."
Facebook regardless. Criticize you boss/company publicly and often enough, and believe me they will find a way to legitimately fire you.
For all your automated killing needs. Now with 20% more contempt for human life!
Also barely restrained violence towards putting fist through my monitor, which is sad, because really its not the monitors fault, he is just showing me stuff. Sorry monitor... *shakes fist at computer case* "One of these days... BANG ZOOM!"
I agree with you partially.
My current upgrade is screwed because of socket change and DDR2->DDR3. That is more than a slight piss off, not to mention a few bucks. I never really looked at the i7 (which I would consider high end), more so at the mid range market with the i5. Which isn't so expensive nor are the MB's. I also shop in the 150-200$ range for video cards, again pretty mid range. I think this is where you get the most value.
Anyway I won't argue that AMD has its place, as if I recall my benchmarks properly AMD does beat Intel in certain areas. One area that Intel has trumped them in is Video games pretty consistently. Sure there are a few that either A) don't matter, or B) AMD comes out on top, but for the most part its all Intel.
I don't usually buy things on on ideology (or at least not very often), and I am all about value, and what best works for you. If your buying a PC to do video editing, and AMD scored best, then by all means get AMD. If your primary use is likely playing Video games, then to me it makes more sense to buy Intel.
That said I remember when I wanted an AMD (it was some time ago) and I really wish they had a more competitive product (or superior) as I would like to give them a try. Not to mention it would help keep Intel prices lower.
I would say go to technical college then. Have fun at DeVry. Those that want a more well rounded education and not just training, will benefit from your absence.
I think people forget that education isn't just to prepare you for a job, but rather for life and to become a better more educated person.
You talk of "paper mills", but in actuality your ideal university is exactly that, churning out diploma's of peons ready to be sent to their corporate cubes.
That's not to say that I would particularly like to take "jazz history", however that is why they are called "electives". You get to choose what interests you outside of your principle discipline. What is not to like? I think taking things like Classical History and Astronomy during my CS degree made university more fun any interesting, not to mention meeting more people of the opposite sex.
AMD is fine, remember they are also ATI, so a bit diversified. However they do need to get their CPU/Chipset ass in gear or get left behind in the dust. About the only thing I would buy AMD for in the CPU/Chipset market right now is the low end, where performance really doesn't matter much at all, only price. Even then I might think twice. I think their GPU is competitive right now however and is doing just fine. In the CPU they really need to come out with a game changer, something really significant. I mean Intel has blown them out of the water three times now in a row. This little business with the faulty chipset is their only saving grace, a cheer must have went up at AMD HQ the day that was announced. Still without anything new and significant of their own, they risk becoming irrelevant.
NIMBY.
Also the people that don't want it are also the type that have cottages on that shore. The type of people that have cottage on that shore tend to be wealthy and well connected.
Same thing up in Canada. There have been attempts for over 10 years to get wind power off Toronto, and all have failed due to NIMBY. Basically a Cottage Association with deep pockets and influential members masquerading as an environmental group to basically torpedo any attempt to put in wind power. When it comes down to it, they think they are aesthetically ugly, and wreak their view of the water, and may effect they value of their cottages.
Went on a tour of a wind power farm last year. Price tag for that one development was 400 million.
50 million is peanuts and is really only a token or symbolic gesture.
So long as it is priced accordingly (i.e. discount) and the specifications are transparent (i.e. they don't try to trick people), then that is fine, I can base my decision to buy on features, which will include one less PCI slot than others due to extra card etc...
If I was Intel, I would be hesitant to do this however (outside of laptops that are unaffected), as it is ripe for possible abuse by less reputable manufactures, and in the end it will be Intel's reputation at stake.
If a Laptop uses a faulty chipset, but is only configured to use the two 6GB SATA ports, it will be entirely unaffected by the bug, as it only effects the 3GB SATA ports. Since there is really no way for the consumer to actually use the 3GB ports, it will never have the bug problem.
So yes in cases like that, it makes sense to keep shipping. Those laptops are perfectly fine.
When I read the title I was a bit leery until I thought about it for a second. I know when I buy my new desktop one eventually, I don't want there to be a chance I get a faulty one!