Sooo, which one are you talking about. Are you saying that Iran hasn't said they want to wipe Israel of the map or are you saying that NK doesn't want to do the same to SK?
If it was such a mistranslation, why did you choose not to cite it, or quote it, or something rather than just have a snide quip of a response?
Facts? Present some, considering what I was joking about is probably considered the common view in these issues.
Exactly. Which is why the article is BS. I suspect because half your emissions in this case would be trivial. It is a lame attempt to try to take one story that isn't very controversial and relate it to one that is, for the sake of readership.
What other militant country with a nutjob leader which has openly swore to wipe another off a map was trying to advance "satellite putting up in orbity" technology and at the same time trying to start a nuclear program (but only to generate power) which is their god given right to do so...
Nothing to see here, move along.
I would say they are playing with fire, but that would be too obvious not to mention literal.
They could also quite possibly get their power from a wind farm.
"This can translate directly into more high-class hookers and high-quality cocaine on the executives' megayachts."
You ended that perfectly. Here I thought you were going to get all telco serious preachy. Well done sir.:)
Though I also know some cell towers have battery backup in case of failure as well. However unless they retrofit the towers with smaller backup diesel generators, they would still burn the same amount of fuel to supply the same amount of current, only not all of it might be needed for the cell tower itself anymore.
Undoubtedly the excess can be used to power onsite hookerdomes, cocaine vending machines and a discotheque to keep the workers in line... "Can you hear me now?"
Because your electricity comes through a distribution system that doesn't distinguish source. You could get 100% of your power from a wind turbine VS 100% from Coal giving you very different CO2 "emissions". You could also get every number in between, which in fact likely varies from day to day depending on load, and also from a host of sources; solar, nuclear, hydro, coal, oil, gas, wind, geothermal, tidal, etc... the percentages of type would also likely vary on time of day as load increases and more sources are brought online to handle it.
So someone coming on with a CO2 emission figure for cell towers is almost entirely BS, unless as I said they run the things locally with diesel generators, or coal, which I said it jest as that is so remote and unlikely a situation. If towers are so far off the grid, they would likely be run off solar if anything to make it manageable.
Of course unless it was just meant to be an order of magnitude VS an actual figure, say 500 tones VS 5,000,000 tones. Considering it was "measured" in cars rather than any sort of recognizable units only adds to the BS 'o' metre...
A Canadian Citizen has been rotting in there for the past 8 years without a trial. He has since confessed to crimes, however it was a plea bargain to get released back to Canada. This reminds me of both the inquisitions, "hey just confess and we will stop torturing you!" and the line from Enemy at the Gates:
"Threw my ass in prison. What were you doing in Germany, huh? Excuse me, says I, but it was comrade Stalin who sent me there. Don't bring our glorious leader into your treachery. Confess, spy bastard! Confess. And bang! Bang, bang, bang! Well, there wasn't a sickle, but there was a hammer. And bang. Knocked out all my teeth. That's right, boy. Have no illusions.That's the land of socialism and universal bliss for you."
This is what that behavior gets you. He very well may be guilty, but lack of trust in a judiciary system places all of that into doubt.
I think it is great that someone is finally calling the US on human rights violations. I think it is ridiculous that the USA preaches to places like China and other human rights violators, while at the same time threatening to jail a journalist for printing information freely. Not to mention the whole no rule of law, torturing, and imprisonment without trial, etc...
What do they run the towers on diesel generators? Are they coal fired?
Or are they trying to justify this by saying it will use half the electricity of previous and thus has half the CO2 emissions? Then trying to estimate the source of power and calculate actual average emissions? Pretty weak sauce.
I believe they are talking about a carbon "footprint" not "emissions". Of course I didn't RTFA, so who knows, perhaps cell towers are currently dirty technology, but that would be news to me.
While I agree that the CRTC should go, or at least have their role limited and a new regulator take over parts.
I disagree about the CBC. I enjoy much of the programing both TV and radio and I think a billion bucks in the grand scheme of things is a small price to pay for having a Canadian national network. The only thing I would like to see is perhaps an analysis of how much it costs CBC to run VS say a commercial network, and if it is absurdly higher, then to look at trimming the fat a bit.
As to Canadian content rules, I would rather media be judged on content and demand, rather than just source. Use the money saved to promote/subsidize Canadian content generation in Canada rather than simply forcing content. I think you would get better competition and more jobs in that sector in Canada.
Yeah, I remember a few years back my internet connection was severed purposely by the cable company Cogeco. Their rational was that I went over my CAP. My response was WTF is a CAP? They were like, well you can only Upload/Download 60GB a month. I was like, WTF I have never had that before, when was this done? They responded that it was done a few months ago. I demanded to know why the heck I wasn't notified and how can they just change a contract? They said if I check my EULA that change is in there. I ask them if they can just change the EULA whenever they wish? To which the response was that yes they can, there is a line that says basically, you are obligated to pay by contract X dollars a month, yet at any time they can change the terms of the agreement to whatever the hell they like. They said they updated the EULA on their website, and gave me the obscure URL buried in their web pages, and said that counted as notification.
So yeah, my connection in 1995 was actually better, it might has been slightly slower at 10 VS 12 MB/s but those numbers are largely theoretical anyway. However I didn't have CAPS. My connection wasn't being actively throttled. I likely paid less as well. That's telecommunication progress in Canada.
Abolish CRTC. Nationalize Telecommunications. Open up the market. One or more of these things have to be done in order to move forward from the status quo of getting left behind.
I never get why IT and related companies think that off-shoring technical jobs to other countries is a really good idea. Sure maybe something like programming or the like if all your team is going to be overseas. However stuff like phone support and help desk functions, where the PRIMARY purpose of the job is speaking on the phone to customers, then you might want to take language into account when selecting where to offshore.
If your primarily selling computers or IT services to English speaking people, then for god sakes don't outsource to India, China, or whatever country it is where English is not the 1st language!
I don't know why it seems I am the only one that thinks sending jobs whose primary function is to talk English on a phone to countries where English is not the primary language spoken is retarded. I don't care how much of a cost savings it is. Sure if your primary business is selling IT services to India, then ya go ahead, that would make sense. I know as a customer I am sick of it and won't deal with it any longer. Quit wasting my time and hire more qualified people.
It's not GPS, is the routing software messing up usually due to lack of data (or out of date) as opposed to logical fault. I am pretty sure the satellites had very little to do with it other than say "Your Here!" over and over again.
Of course I remember when GPS was a "big deal" and specialized, I remember taking a course in it, and having to provide training to others. When units cost thousands of dollars. Of course I am in GIS and understand all the background. Heck there was a time when the US Army would mess with your accuracy just for fun, and you had to try to correct for it!
Now any smuck can go to bestbuy and pick up something for 150$ and it tells you where to go.
You're supposed to use a tool, not let the tool use you.
Have you ever replaced anything through warranty? Unless they do some special deal, that is not happening. The store already sold it to you, they are done, unless the store has warranty, and if the parts are OEM you are out of luck! You're shipping that sucker away and then back again, and it will take weeks.
Also I don't know how many hard drives you have, buy I know I can't function with only 2 6GB ports. Not even close.
I don't think any said they would offer a refund, and I doubt any will. That would be the EASIEST solution. But then you might not buy another ASUS or MSI or whatever, not going to happen.
EVEN if you get a PCI-E card through rebate or warranty, the problem is it now takes up a SLI slot, and slows your 16x to 8x on your other, IF you even have two, which not all do.
Here is why it won't be a refund. Intel set aside 700 million and sold like 8 million, which means they have a pot of about 85$ per board for repair. So if you bought a 120$ board maybe not a big deal, kinda a big deal if you bought a 220$ board however. Also that's assuming desktops. How many of those are laptops? Not so easy to replace or repair. Though I have heard that some don't even use the 3GB ports, so wouldn't be effected at all.
Anyway a mess. Its good that Intel has come forward. However what is going to be more telling is how different manufacturers plan on dealing with the situation, as it seems each is doing their own thing. From a positive perspective, I will get to see which ones are jerks when I go to buy my bug free version in April. I think it goes without saying that those that handle this well, will be favorably looked upon when the purchasing decision comes around.
tried to follow a different path and innovate using polar bears as rocket fuel, but as it turns out harvesting the critters is a really technical problem.
We then figured out that we could piggy back arms on other space programs and did that instead.
We were experiencing some problems shutting down our submarine thermal generator we used to limit the polar bear habitat, making them easier to catch, but we just blamed it in "Climate Change" and that seems to have solved the problem.
Our scientists are off shoveling their driveways now and are unavailable for comment at this time.
I disagree with just about everything you just said. Also the CRTC isn't trying to discourage technical ITMP. They already ruled in favor of Bell in this regard and against the independent ISP, this even despite a report that was gotten from Bell itself that basically proved that they were lying, and it had nothing to do with line congestion and all about profits.
Yes caps are too low, but as a power user that is not what ticks me off. I do not mind paying for what I use. I mind getting taken to the cleaners simply because they can, and the regulator is in their pocket.
Just like the 15 cents (BOTH ways) text on your cell phone isn't in ANY way reflective of the cost to provide that service, merely an arbitrary value they make up that they believe the market will take. If I exceed my cap I am paying 1.5-2$ per GB. When they first came out with this payment "plan" Teksavvy was selling the same service (with 200GB cap VS 60GB) at 0.25$ cents a GB. They also had a bulk package you could pay for up front (100GB for 10$ I think) that would be 0.10$ cents a GB.
I do not think it is the CRTC's job to be limiting bandwidth, infrastructure, and innovation as a result. If Bell and Rogers want to play that way, then nationalize the whole system and be done with it.
I do not know much about VDSL so I can't comment on that. However when I was doing research into this I also found out that Bell actually did have "Dry" DSL, but didn't advertise the fact because they want to sell you a land line also. They are just slimy... Also only allowing a static IP on buisness accounts, which start at 100$ a month is BS also... or that might be cable.... whatever they are pretty interchangeable anyway really...
They are probably being reimbursed by Intel for the defect. If it was a replacement PCI-E card and refund it would be whoever makes the card (likely not Gigabyte or Asus) and the consumer that would be getting the money from Intel. Hence the decision. I'm guessing, but probably not far from the mark.
As a consumer I would probably rather the card and the money, as that way I don't have weeks of downtime while this MB exchange takes place. I would be interested to hear if consumers are on the hook for the shipping as well, as they usually are when manufacturer is involved. So rather than shipping old board out and new board in, they would just ship the card and money out on proof of purchase.
Anyway I almost pulled the trigger on one of these boards, so I am a little glad I didn't now. I'll wait till spring and get one then.
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Touche.
Though they already got the bomb, and are in fact the only nation to actually use it, twice.
Sooo, which one are you talking about. Are you saying that Iran hasn't said they want to wipe Israel of the map or are you saying that NK doesn't want to do the same to SK?
If it was such a mistranslation, why did you choose not to cite it, or quote it, or something rather than just have a snide quip of a response?
Facts? Present some, considering what I was joking about is probably considered the common view in these issues.
Exactly. Which is why the article is BS. I suspect because half your emissions in this case would be trivial. It is a lame attempt to try to take one story that isn't very controversial and relate it to one that is, for the sake of readership.
This story sounds strangely deja vu like.
What other militant country with a nutjob leader which has openly swore to wipe another off a map was trying to advance "satellite putting up in orbity" technology and at the same time trying to start a nuclear program (but only to generate power) which is their god given right to do so...
Nothing to see here, move along.
I would say they are playing with fire, but that would be too obvious not to mention literal.
They could also quite possibly get their power from a wind farm.
"This can translate directly into more high-class hookers and high-quality cocaine on the executives' megayachts."
You ended that perfectly. Here I thought you were going to get all telco serious preachy. Well done sir. :)
Though I also know some cell towers have battery backup in case of failure as well. However unless they retrofit the towers with smaller backup diesel generators, they would still burn the same amount of fuel to supply the same amount of current, only not all of it might be needed for the cell tower itself anymore.
Undoubtedly the excess can be used to power onsite hookerdomes, cocaine vending machines and a discotheque to keep the workers in line... "Can you hear me now?"
Because your electricity comes through a distribution system that doesn't distinguish source. You could get 100% of your power from a wind turbine VS 100% from Coal giving you very different CO2 "emissions". You could also get every number in between, which in fact likely varies from day to day depending on load, and also from a host of sources; solar, nuclear, hydro, coal, oil, gas, wind, geothermal, tidal, etc... the percentages of type would also likely vary on time of day as load increases and more sources are brought online to handle it.
So someone coming on with a CO2 emission figure for cell towers is almost entirely BS, unless as I said they run the things locally with diesel generators, or coal, which I said it jest as that is so remote and unlikely a situation. If towers are so far off the grid, they would likely be run off solar if anything to make it manageable.
Of course unless it was just meant to be an order of magnitude VS an actual figure, say 500 tones VS 5,000,000 tones. Considering it was "measured" in cars rather than any sort of recognizable units only adds to the BS 'o' metre...
A Canadian Citizen has been rotting in there for the past 8 years without a trial. He has since confessed to crimes, however it was a plea bargain to get released back to Canada. This reminds me of both the inquisitions, "hey just confess and we will stop torturing you!" and the line from Enemy at the Gates:
"Threw my ass in prison. What were you doing in Germany, huh? Excuse me, says I, but it was comrade Stalin who sent me there. Don't bring our glorious leader
into your treachery. Confess, spy bastard! Confess. And bang! Bang, bang, bang! Well, there wasn't a sickle, but there was a hammer. And bang.
Knocked out all my teeth. That's right, boy. Have no illusions.That's the land of socialism and universal bliss for you."
This is what that behavior gets you. He very well may be guilty, but lack of trust in a judiciary system places all of that into doubt.
You think this is limited to Europe?
I think it is great that someone is finally calling the US on human rights violations. I think it is ridiculous that the USA preaches to places like China and other human rights violators, while at the same time threatening to jail a journalist for printing information freely. Not to mention the whole no rule of law, torturing, and imprisonment without trial, etc...
Do as I say, and not as I do!
from the mobile industry???
What do they run the towers on diesel generators? Are they coal fired?
Or are they trying to justify this by saying it will use half the electricity of previous and thus has half the CO2 emissions? Then trying to estimate the source of power and calculate actual average emissions? Pretty weak sauce.
I believe they are talking about a carbon "footprint" not "emissions". Of course I didn't RTFA, so who knows, perhaps cell towers are currently dirty technology, but that would be news to me.
While I agree that the CRTC should go, or at least have their role limited and a new regulator take over parts.
I disagree about the CBC. I enjoy much of the programing both TV and radio and I think a billion bucks in the grand scheme of things is a small price to pay for having a Canadian national network. The only thing I would like to see is perhaps an analysis of how much it costs CBC to run VS say a commercial network, and if it is absurdly higher, then to look at trimming the fat a bit.
As to Canadian content rules, I would rather media be judged on content and demand, rather than just source. Use the money saved to promote/subsidize Canadian content generation in Canada rather than simply forcing content. I think you would get better competition and more jobs in that sector in Canada.
Yeah, I remember a few years back my internet connection was severed purposely by the cable company Cogeco. Their rational was that I went over my CAP. My response was WTF is a CAP? They were like, well you can only Upload/Download 60GB a month. I was like, WTF I have never had that before, when was this done? They responded that it was done a few months ago. I demanded to know why the heck I wasn't notified and how can they just change a contract? They said if I check my EULA that change is in there. I ask them if they can just change the EULA whenever they wish? To which the response was that yes they can, there is a line that says basically, you are obligated to pay by contract X dollars a month, yet at any time they can change the terms of the agreement to whatever the hell they like. They said they updated the EULA on their website, and gave me the obscure URL buried in their web pages, and said that counted as notification.
So yeah, my connection in 1995 was actually better, it might has been slightly slower at 10 VS 12 MB/s but those numbers are largely theoretical anyway. However I didn't have CAPS. My connection wasn't being actively throttled. I likely paid less as well. That's telecommunication progress in Canada.
Abolish CRTC. Nationalize Telecommunications. Open up the market. One or more of these things have to be done in order to move forward from the status quo of getting left behind.
I never get why IT and related companies think that off-shoring technical jobs to other countries is a really good idea. Sure maybe something like programming or the like if all your team is going to be overseas. However stuff like phone support and help desk functions, where the PRIMARY purpose of the job is speaking on the phone to customers, then you might want to take language into account when selecting where to offshore.
If your primarily selling computers or IT services to English speaking people, then for god sakes don't outsource to India, China, or whatever country it is where English is not the 1st language!
I don't know why it seems I am the only one that thinks sending jobs whose primary function is to talk English on a phone to countries where English is not the primary language spoken is retarded. I don't care how much of a cost savings it is. Sure if your primary business is selling IT services to India, then ya go ahead, that would make sense. I know as a customer I am sick of it and won't deal with it any longer. Quit wasting my time and hire more qualified people.
Yes invisibility crystals... Excellent!
In Canada we usually refer to it as "Snow" but whatever.
If someone mentions the fountainhead I will hunt you down...
It's not GPS, is the routing software messing up usually due to lack of data (or out of date) as opposed to logical fault. I am pretty sure the satellites had very little to do with it other than say "Your Here!" over and over again.
Of course I remember when GPS was a "big deal" and specialized, I remember taking a course in it, and having to provide training to others. When units cost thousands of dollars. Of course I am in GIS and understand all the background. Heck there was a time when the US Army would mess with your accuracy just for fun, and you had to try to correct for it!
Now any smuck can go to bestbuy and pick up something for 150$ and it tells you where to go.
You're supposed to use a tool, not let the tool use you.
LOL!
Have you ever replaced anything through warranty? Unless they do some special deal, that is not happening. The store already sold it to you, they are done, unless the store has warranty, and if the parts are OEM you are out of luck! You're shipping that sucker away and then back again, and it will take weeks.
Also I don't know how many hard drives you have, buy I know I can't function with only 2 6GB ports. Not even close.
I don't think any said they would offer a refund, and I doubt any will. That would be the EASIEST solution. But then you might not buy another ASUS or MSI or whatever, not going to happen.
EVEN if you get a PCI-E card through rebate or warranty, the problem is it now takes up a SLI slot, and slows your 16x to 8x on your other, IF you even have two, which not all do.
Here is why it won't be a refund. Intel set aside 700 million and sold like 8 million, which means they have a pot of about 85$ per board for repair. So if you bought a 120$ board maybe not a big deal, kinda a big deal if you bought a 220$ board however. Also that's assuming desktops. How many of those are laptops? Not so easy to replace or repair. Though I have heard that some don't even use the 3GB ports, so wouldn't be effected at all.
Anyway a mess. Its good that Intel has come forward. However what is going to be more telling is how different manufacturers plan on dealing with the situation, as it seems each is doing their own thing. From a positive perspective, I will get to see which ones are jerks when I go to buy my bug free version in April. I think it goes without saying that those that handle this well, will be favorably looked upon when the purchasing decision comes around.
Here is a little something I saw today that about sums up how ridiculous I think our current internet is:
http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI5NjY2NzEwNHRrdERDNHBLY1ZfMV8xX2wuanBn
tried to follow a different path and innovate using polar bears as rocket fuel, but as it turns out harvesting the critters is a really technical problem.
We then figured out that we could piggy back arms on other space programs and did that instead.
We were experiencing some problems shutting down our submarine thermal generator we used to limit the polar bear habitat, making them easier to catch, but we just blamed it in "Climate Change" and that seems to have solved the problem.
Our scientists are off shoveling their driveways now and are unavailable for comment at this time.
Sounds like yesterdays discussion on molten-salt reactors...
I'm seeing a theme here... :)
Hooray for Democracy keeping politicians honest!
Of course that only counts if they actually follow through in what they say, which is a big leap of faith.
I disagree with just about everything you just said. Also the CRTC isn't trying to discourage technical ITMP. They already ruled in favor of Bell in this regard and against the independent ISP, this even despite a report that was gotten from Bell itself that basically proved that they were lying, and it had nothing to do with line congestion and all about profits.
Yes caps are too low, but as a power user that is not what ticks me off. I do not mind paying for what I use. I mind getting taken to the cleaners simply because they can, and the regulator is in their pocket.
Just like the 15 cents (BOTH ways) text on your cell phone isn't in ANY way reflective of the cost to provide that service, merely an arbitrary value they make up that they believe the market will take. If I exceed my cap I am paying 1.5-2$ per GB. When they first came out with this payment "plan" Teksavvy was selling the same service (with 200GB cap VS 60GB) at 0.25$ cents a GB. They also had a bulk package you could pay for up front (100GB for 10$ I think) that would be 0.10$ cents a GB.
I do not think it is the CRTC's job to be limiting bandwidth, infrastructure, and innovation as a result. If Bell and Rogers want to play that way, then nationalize the whole system and be done with it.
I do not know much about VDSL so I can't comment on that. However when I was doing research into this I also found out that Bell actually did have "Dry" DSL, but didn't advertise the fact because they want to sell you a land line also. They are just slimy... Also only allowing a static IP on buisness accounts, which start at 100$ a month is BS also... or that might be cable.... whatever they are pretty interchangeable anyway really...
They are probably being reimbursed by Intel for the defect. If it was a replacement PCI-E card and refund it would be whoever makes the card (likely not Gigabyte or Asus) and the consumer that would be getting the money from Intel. Hence the decision. I'm guessing, but probably not far from the mark.
As a consumer I would probably rather the card and the money, as that way I don't have weeks of downtime while this MB exchange takes place. I would be interested to hear if consumers are on the hook for the shipping as well, as they usually are when manufacturer is involved. So rather than shipping old board out and new board in, they would just ship the card and money out on proof of purchase.
Anyway I almost pulled the trigger on one of these boards, so I am a little glad I didn't now. I'll wait till spring and get one then.
1 Guantánamo Bay, Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
Tell the Guar...Secretary at the front office your name is Julian Assange and you would like your reward.