Sure we created it, but I don't think we own it any more. Any country that has access owns their own little part. I would imagine the French see the internet a bit differently than us because they start out with FRENCH search engines and FRENCH ISP web pages.
The internet is a connection of networks. The only reason the US seems to "own" the net is because we still have the largest number of sites and pages. Once the net grows some more I'm willing to bet you'll see other "centers" as some sort of critical mass is achieved for a certain country/language. No idea how the regulation across borders would work though. More treaties?
BTW, I find it humourous how much the arguing here sounds like Open source verses closed source. US owns vs The World (tm). US owns sounds so closed source (It's ours dammmit!!) verses "It's for everyone"
A distributed search engine? Still, it will be interesting to see how this pans out. Part of the "problem" with the net is the depth of the information. How do you restrict and focus your search? One nice thing about napster being MP3 only is that it's more foolproof (You can make anything foolproof, just not damned fool proof). If I do a search and forget to type the extension I don't have to wait for it to finish the first search before starting a second. What happens if I do a search for "sex" in Gnutella and forget to type.mp3 or.txt etc and I have to wait 5 minutes for it to finish before I can see that I goofed. Some would charge that that's what I get for being an idiot, but in many cases you can overwhelm the user with power if you don't plan and think through your gui and program right beforehand.
The FAA does something similar when they make changed to the FAR's (Federal Aviation Regulations). There is typically an initial release called an NPRM (Notice for proposed rule making) followed by a 30 or 90 day (Can't remember if it's both or just the 90) comment period. Depending on the reaction they set the rules or go back to the drawing board.... and then there's another comment period.
I dunno, group consensus methods usually lead to long, drawn-out processes and if that's the case how many people are going to casually check up on all the proposed patents to comment on them? Sorta like the way people vote for president candidates and then leave the rest of the ballot blank because they don't care.
You won't have any choice legally. and after a couple years people will be used to the weight of the yoke and the momentum to fight it will have eased.
Sucks to be someone fighting for what you believe in (common sense and balance, anyone?) only to see that all the time and sweat is like screaming at a storm.
I was wondering what was going on as McD was merged with Boeing last year; there isn't a McD any more. The age of the patent is interesting; why'd it take them so long to award it when others seem to go through faster?
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Just because Bear creates such a society doesn't mean he's advocating it. He may just be extrapolating what he sees of current trends out a couple of years.
Robert Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers, in which the charachters lived in a fascist state. A Lot of the book was spent on *why* that state was the way it was and what rights it and the citizens within it had, but Heinlein wasn't advocating such a state; he firmly believed in freedom of the individual. He had simply created an interesting idea and was exploring the possibilities; that's what fiction authors are supposed to do.
I see in the preview I mispelled something in my sig.. Natch:)
What we need these days is more objective news covering the linux phenomenon. If it degrades linux, obviously they don't see the full picture, and therefore is not objective and they're being paid-off by Bill Gates.
Ever stop to think that the above paragraph is perhaps not objective at all? Sure Linux is better than Winblows in many features but it still has some things that could be improved. This IPO stuff might not have an immediatly apparent change but it will affect what people code in the future.. do you think that the vast majority of those getting into Linux now will go for drivers or for something that can get them some money on the side? Remember, Never underestimate the power of human stupidity!!
> I don't see how _anyone_ can be forced to either pray or believe, so I'm interested to know how that can be the flaw in my argument. That > would be a neat trick, if you could explain it.
Try this; "If you do not reject Satan blah blah and accept Jesus Christ as your personal blah blah you will burned at the stake WITCH!!"
Ask Torqemata (spelling??) and the spanish inquesition to explain how they got the jews to "confess and repent"
> If that's your view, you're wrong anyway: the State has demonstrated a compelling interest in providing educational services, and that must > include religion, at least tangentially, because religion is an integral facet of history.
On this note, are you aware of HOW MANY religeons would need to be covered to adequately cover relegious influence in history? I took a college class on Curistianity, Budhism, and Muslim, and that was a full 90-day course! What high-schooler or Jr. High schooler is going to want to sit through a full YEAR of all the religeons that influenced history or had anything meaningful to say? On that note, how many parents of one religeon are going to let their kids listen to heathan or pagan ideas?
They removed it :( SNooze you lose I guess
Sure we created it, but I don't think we own it any more. Any country that has access owns their own little part. I would imagine the French see the internet a bit differently than us because they start out with FRENCH search engines and FRENCH ISP web pages.
The internet is a connection of networks. The only reason the US seems to "own" the net is because we still have the largest number of sites and pages. Once the net grows some more I'm willing to bet you'll see other "centers" as some sort of critical mass is achieved for a certain country/language. No idea how the regulation across borders would work though. More treaties?
BTW, I find it humourous how much the arguing here sounds like Open source verses closed source. US owns vs The World (tm). US owns sounds so closed source (It's ours dammmit!!) verses "It's for everyone"
And yes I'm 'merican
A distributed search engine? .mp3 or .txt etc and I have to wait 5 minutes for it to finish before I can see that I goofed. Some would charge that that's what I get for being an idiot, but in many cases you can overwhelm the user with power if you don't plan and think through your gui and program right beforehand.
Still, it will be interesting to see how this pans out. Part of the "problem" with the net is the depth of the information. How do you restrict and focus your search? One nice thing about napster being MP3 only is that it's more foolproof (You can make anything foolproof, just not damned fool proof). If I do a search and forget to type the extension I don't have to wait for it to finish the first search before starting a second. What happens if I do a search for "sex" in Gnutella and forget to type
The FAA does something similar when they make changed to the FAR's (Federal Aviation Regulations). There is typically an initial release called an NPRM (Notice for proposed rule making) followed by a 30 or 90 day (Can't remember if it's both or just the 90) comment period. Depending on the reaction they set the rules or go back to the drawing board.... and then there's another comment period.
I dunno, group consensus methods usually lead to long, drawn-out processes and if that's the case how many people are going to casually check up on all the proposed patents to comment on them? Sorta like the way people vote for president candidates and then leave the rest of the ballot blank because they don't care.
You won't have any choice legally. and after a couple years people will be used to the weight of the yoke and the momentum to fight it will have eased.
Sucks to be someone fighting for what you believe in (common sense and balance, anyone?) only to see that all the time and sweat is like screaming at a storm.
I was wondering what was going on as McD was merged with Boeing last year; there isn't a McD any more. The age of the patent is interesting; why'd it take them so long to award it when others seem to go through faster?
Just because Bear creates such a society doesn't mean he's advocating it. He may just be extrapolating what he sees of current trends out a couple of years.
:)
Robert Heinlein wrote Starship Troopers, in which the charachters lived in a fascist state. A Lot of the book was spent on *why* that state was the way it was and what rights it and the citizens within it had, but Heinlein wasn't advocating such a state; he firmly believed in freedom of the individual. He had simply created an interesting idea and was exploring the possibilities; that's what fiction authors are supposed to do.
I see in the preview I mispelled something in my sig.. Natch
Ever stop to think that the above paragraph is perhaps not objective at all? Sure Linux is better than Winblows in many features but it still has some things that could be improved. This IPO stuff might not have an immediatly apparent change but it will affect what people code in the future.. do you think that the vast majority of those getting into Linux now will go for drivers or for something that can get them some money on the side? Remember, Never underestimate the power of human stupidity!!
> I don't see how _anyone_ can be forced to either pray or believe, so I'm interested to know how that can be the flaw in my argument. That
> would be a neat trick, if you could explain it.
Try this;
"If you do not reject Satan blah blah and accept Jesus Christ as your personal blah blah you will burned at the stake WITCH!!"
Ask Torqemata (spelling??) and the spanish inquesition to explain how they got the jews to "confess and repent"
> If that's your view, you're wrong anyway: the State has demonstrated a compelling interest in providing educational services, and that must
> include religion, at least tangentially, because religion is an integral facet of history.
On this note, are you aware of HOW MANY religeons would need to be covered to adequately cover relegious influence in history? I took a college class on Curistianity, Budhism, and Muslim, and that was a full 90-day course! What high-schooler or Jr. High schooler is going to want to sit through a full YEAR of all the religeons that influenced history or had anything meaningful to say? On that note, how many parents of one religeon are going to let their kids listen to heathan or pagan ideas?