It would be fun, though, if the Pope decleared Mr Brown and his book heretic. It wouldn't hurt the popularity of Catholicism in the geek community either:)
Yes, it is like free peanuts in a bar, except that you can go into this bar, take as many peanuts as you can carry and just leave without buying a single beer.
A word is always the size of the processor's "natural piece of data", so on a 16 bits processor, 64 bits is a quadword (16bits*4), on a 64bit processor its one word.
There are exceptions though... In Intel-style x86 assembly a word is always 16 bits, a doubleword is 32 bits and a quadword is 64 bits. An octetword would of course be 128 bits.
That's exactly my point, spatial file browsing (opening a new window for each folder) isn't a good idea for most of the file system, so a file browser shoudn't use it by default.It may be a good idea for a small subset of your files (your home dir, files on you desktop), but then there are alternative way that IMHO are better, like associating window size/placement/other spatial properties with the folder/file/program's desktop icon.
Other aspects of the browser and desktop environment may very well use spatial principles, that's just common sense.
It's not the concept of "the spatial user interface" I have any problem with. Most user interfaces uses it to some degree and I even consciously take advantage of it myself in some cases (e.g. I put links to documents on the right side of the desktop and links to programs on the right, I always browse and read email on the 2nd virtual desktop etc) I don't think it's a good idea to open a separate window for each filder, though. There are just to many folder and files I need to work with, for their spatial properties to have any meaning.
You're right. I don't use gnome. I do actually use other GUIs though: Click on a folder and choose "Browse Folders"? Nah, I'll just double click it. Select the "Browse Filesystem" menu item? Nah, I'll just double click a folder. That will bring up my file manager. Click panel icon that looks like a file cabinet? Maybe...Nah! I'll just double click...
My point is: If I want to start my file manager, I'll do it the way I always do it. If I want to change the way it work, I'll go for the settings menu
This illustrates a bit of the problem. Nautilus is a file system browser. Why should I select the "browse folders" menu item when i'm already browsing folders? If your web broswer had a button labeled "browse internet", what would it do? Does it make sense to press it if you're already reading/. ?
Here's a summary as to why spatial mode is bad: "I've tried it and it sucked." That's basically what the article and the millions of user who turned it off in win95 says too.
"Troll"? That's a reference to your own post, right? How can you claim he isn't specific? It's probably one of the most specific rants I've ever read:
1: He doesn't like Nautilus' (default) spatial mode and he can't find an obvious way to turn it of. 2: He doesn't like is that there is no easy way to change the colors of a theme. 3: The gnome developers are a bunch or arrogant bastards.
I agree with two of his points and have no idea about the last one:)
I realize the start of this thread was about server machines, but I'll still talk about my desktops:)
I use a laptop at home. It has 500MB of ram, runs linux (2.4), kde, opera, eclipse, openoffice. xmms, gaim plus whatever. This box have no swap space. I've been using it for about 6 months and I've never had any problems with too little mem. Of course, after playing OGGs for a couple of hours, whatever memory isn't used by apps are used by cache. I don't see that as a problem. I would have really hated if my apps were swapped out in this situation.
At work I have a kickass machine with 2GB physical and 4GB swap. It runs mostly the same apps as my home machine pluss some really memory hungry server software (out own product). I can't remember ever having noticed any swap activity. I'm running the ksysguard applet all the time so I have a pretty good idea of its memory usage. My previuos machine was a windows box with with 500MB. It was swapping *all the f***ing time*. Leave eclipse alone for a a couple of minutes, and you had to wait for ages while it copied all 100MB of it back into memory...
My point is that you don't really need any swap partition at all on a desktop box. "But what if you use it all?", you may ask. "So what?" is my answer. With a swap partition you also have a hard limit on how mush mem you can use. It just get a lot more painful to use it all, with all that swaping. If you have been adviced to have a 1:1 size between your physical mem and swap partition, you might aswell just buy twice the amount of ram, and be a twice as happy geek:)
There are many reasons why someone would buy water (or any other drinkable liquid) even if they have clean tap water:
It's less of a hassle (when you're not already inside your own home). It's better. (Yes, some people actually think it is.) It's more trendy or something. [Add whatever irrational reasons here]
None of these arguments can help you sell a licensed dvd player for linux though.:)
Of cource, the "I-wanna-play-my-DVD-in-Linux!!!" argument is important. What is much more worrying is the logical inconsistency of it all, and that a lot of people seem unable to see how little sense a law like the DMCA makes.
Consider this:
It is, and has been for many years (at least technically) trivial to make copies of movies. It's illegal to distribute those copies whitout premission, but lots of people are doing it anyway. What is the best way to fix this situation? To outlaw something else that is equally trivial and equally common (decoding css), or to actually start enforcing the laws you already have?
The DMCA is obviusly an implementation of the first solution, which also introduces effects that can be nothing but damaging to the American society. I'm sure everyone reading this post are perfectly aware of what these effects are already...
Another thing to consider is that if the wast majority of the population are breaking, or wouldn't think twice about breaking, some law, then there is probably something wrong with that law. This hints at a third solution to the situation outlined above.:)
Check the dude's user ID. He's just some tard troll that wandered onto this site. He'll disappear after sufficiently making an ass of himself, said the Anonymous Coward...
you can develop cross-platform code far better in C++ with the right cross-platform libraries
Can you please elaborate? Which libraries provide functionality comparable to the standard java class libraries? Do they run (in updated versions) on windows, linux, *bsd, mac, aix, solaris, hpux, and irix?
I'm not saying java is flawless, but as far as I can see, there is only one reason to use c/c++ instead of java: Speed. But, 99% of the time that is a non-issue anyway. I doesn't matter if the processing takes 1ms or 10ms when you must wait a second for IO anyway...
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It would be fun, though, if the Pope decleared Mr Brown and his book heretic. It wouldn't hurt the popularity of Catholicism in the geek community either :)
"Whoo-hoo! Free peanuts!"
There are exceptions though... In Intel-style x86 assembly a word is always 16 bits, a doubleword is 32 bits and a quadword is 64 bits. An octetword would of course be 128 bits.
zarr: What is the Nautilus?
Anonymous Coward: The answer is out there, zarr, and it's looking for you, and it will find you if you want it to.
explain the difference please. I am quite dumb today. I was wondering about that too...
That's exactly my point, spatial file browsing (opening a new window for each folder) isn't a good idea for most of the file system, so a file browser shoudn't use it by default.It may be a good idea for a small subset of your files (your home dir, files on you desktop), but then there are alternative way that IMHO are better, like associating window size/placement/other spatial properties with the folder/file/program's desktop icon. Other aspects of the browser and desktop environment may very well use spatial principles, that's just common sense.
Nope, it's clearly labeled as an opinion. A rant may very well be defined as an opinion you don't like. :)
It's not the concept of "the spatial user interface" I have any problem with. Most user interfaces uses it to some degree and I even consciously take advantage of it myself in some cases (e.g. I put links to documents on the right side of the desktop and links to programs on the right, I always browse and read email on the 2nd virtual desktop etc) I don't think it's a good idea to open a separate window for each filder, though. There are just to many folder and files I need to work with, for their spatial properties to have any meaning.
My point is: If I want to start my file manager, I'll do it the way I always do it. If I want to change the way it work, I'll go for the settings menu
So, Nautilus has three totally unintuitive ways to enable "normal" file browsing. Interesting...
This illustrates a bit of the problem. Nautilus is a file system browser. Why should I select the "browse folders" menu item when i'm already browsing folders? If your web broswer had a button labeled "browse internet", what would it do? Does it make sense to press it if you're already reading /. ?
Here's a summary as to why spatial mode is bad: "I've tried it and it sucked." That's basically what the article and the millions of user who turned it off in win95 says too.
"Troll"? That's a reference to your own post, right? How can you claim he isn't specific?
:)
It's probably one of the most specific rants I've ever read:
1: He doesn't like Nautilus' (default) spatial mode and he can't find an obvious way to turn it of.
2: He doesn't like is that there is no easy way to change the colors of a theme.
3: The gnome developers are a bunch or arrogant bastards.
I agree with two of his points and have no idea about the last one
This sounds like a variant of the famous Turbo Pascal 7 "Runtime error 200" bug. There was similar bugs in earlier Turbo Pascal releases also.
I realize the start of this thread was about server machines, but I'll still talk about my desktops :)
:)
I use a laptop at home. It has 500MB of ram, runs linux (2.4), kde, opera, eclipse, openoffice. xmms, gaim plus whatever. This box have no swap space. I've been using it for about 6 months and I've never had any problems with too little mem. Of course, after playing OGGs for a couple of hours, whatever memory isn't used by apps are used by cache. I don't see that as a problem. I would have really hated if my apps were swapped out in this situation.
At work I have a kickass machine with 2GB physical and 4GB swap. It runs mostly the same apps as my home machine pluss some really memory hungry server software (out own product). I can't remember ever having noticed any swap activity. I'm running the ksysguard applet all the time so I have a pretty good idea of its memory usage. My previuos machine was a windows box with with 500MB. It was swapping *all the f***ing time*. Leave eclipse alone for a a couple of minutes, and you had to wait for ages while it copied all 100MB of it back into memory...
My point is that you don't really need any swap partition at all on a desktop box. "But what if you use it all?", you may ask. "So what?" is my answer. With a swap partition you also have a hard limit on how mush mem you can use. It just get a lot more painful to use it all, with all that swaping. If you have been adviced to have a 1:1 size between your physical mem and swap partition, you might aswell just buy twice the amount of ram, and be a twice as happy geek
I just realized I was probably only a few seconds from getting the 9000000th post! Wow! :)
There are many reasons why someone would buy water (or any other drinkable liquid) even if they have clean tap water:
:)
It's less of a hassle (when you're not already inside your own home).
It's better. (Yes, some people actually think it is.)
It's more trendy or something.
[Add whatever irrational reasons here]
None of these arguments can help you sell a licensed dvd player for linux though.
I totally agree.
:)
Of cource, the "I-wanna-play-my-DVD-in-Linux!!!" argument is important. What is much more worrying is the logical inconsistency of it all, and that a lot of people seem unable to see how little sense a law like the DMCA makes.
Consider this:
It is, and has been for many years (at least technically) trivial to make copies of movies. It's illegal to distribute those copies whitout premission, but lots of people are doing it anyway. What is the best way to fix this situation? To outlaw something else that is equally trivial and equally common (decoding css), or to actually start enforcing the laws you already have?
The DMCA is obviusly an implementation of the first solution, which also introduces effects that can be nothing but damaging to the American society. I'm sure everyone reading this post are perfectly aware of what these effects are already...
Another thing to consider is that if the wast majority of the population are breaking, or wouldn't think twice about breaking, some law, then there is probably something wrong with that law. This hints at a third solution to the situation outlined above.
Here is the answer from Linuxant. They claim it wasn't a mistake, just a way to suppress potentially confusing warning messages.
Dijkstra was wrong. It isn't a bad idea, and it didn't originate in California
Check the dude's user ID. He's just some tard troll that wandered onto this site. He'll disappear after sufficiently making an ass of himself, said the Anonymous Coward...
If I'm a troll, why do you feed me? :)
Seriously: Somethimes the "unnecessary" layers are what makes productive software development possible. It's called abstraction.
(Lameness filter: "Don't use so many caps. It's like YELLING." Yes, that was exactly the effect I was looking for!)
I'm not saying you can't do good things in Java, but it's like scratching your belly-button while wearing boxing-gloves.
So, you prefer scratching your belly-button with a chainsaw?
you can develop cross-platform code far better in C++ with the right cross-platform libraries
Can you please elaborate? Which libraries provide functionality comparable to the standard java class libraries? Do they run (in updated versions) on windows, linux, *bsd, mac, aix, solaris, hpux, and irix?
I'm not saying java is flawless, but as far as I can see, there is only one reason to use c/c++ instead of java: Speed. But, 99% of the time that is a non-issue anyway. I doesn't matter if the processing takes 1ms or 10ms when you must wait a second for IO anyway...